[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread shukra69
its a tiny minority you are talking about. Just a tiny minority of Protestants and some Wahabists who think they have a conflict to be concerned about.TM has now or has had considerable success in conservative Catholic(esp.Peru and virtually all of Central and South America -and Muslim

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukr...@... wrote: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaram gave a brilliant speech about this kind of thing this Jan 12th. NOT to get sucked into the infinity minus 1th iteration of this religion argument, IMO anyone who calls King Tony by that name would

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread John
Judy, Your comments are excellent and very well constructed. We wish the same could be said about some people here on this list. Or rather than weeding them out, one could understand them differently. Repent, for example, is the term used in English translations of the Gospels for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Good News Music Mall

2009-03-15 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Global Good News recently launched a new page on its website, Music Mall. The link to Music Mall appears in the navigation bar at the left

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Or rather than weeding them out, one could understand them differently. Thanks, that is pretty much my point. In fact in some cases you 'must' understand

[FairfieldLife] Re: Christian Science Monitor: The Coming Evangelical Collapse

2009-03-15 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Doug, in all honesty, I think you have been toking on the Maharishi Bong far too long. You make assump- tions about things that are not only unwarranted, they are far more offensive to thinking, feeling human beings than

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread shukra69
MMY is not the only one with this interpretation though, even dualists like the Gaudya Vaishnavas believe that the goal is to be without, go beyond the three gunas. They have a different idea of what that is though. You can transcend and then abide in Sattwa.There is no contradiction on level

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread shukra69
I agree that it is very tiresome to read here or anywhere those who expressions are guided only what can rhetorically be advantageous to their firmly held preconceptions. I can only suggest that you listen to that address if you have the chance and inclination and you might agree and understand

[FairfieldLife] STARSHIP ANY DAY NOW

2009-03-15 Thread TurquoiseB
Many of you have heard the rumors. Well, they are true. Global Good News *has* been working on a TV series to follow up the success of their Global Good Music effort. It will be broadcast on the Maharishi Channel weekly. The rumors about the subject matter are true, too. It really *is* Sattvic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Christian Science Monitor: The Coming Evangelical Collapse

2009-03-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Doug, in all honesty, I think you have been toking on the Maharishi Bong far too long. ... Okay, you caught me. Dear Turq, lion-hearted

[FairfieldLife] The Spirit Level - could change politics

2009-03-15 Thread claudiouk
This is a book with a big idea, big enough to change political thinking, and bigger than its authors at first intended. The problem they originally set out to solve was why health within a population gets progressively worse further down the social scale; they estimate that together they have

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Spirit Level - could change politics

2009-03-15 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudi...@... wrote: This is a book with a big idea, big enough to change political thinking, and bigger than its authors at first intended. The problem they originally set out to solve was why health within a population gets progressively

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: FWIW, I seem to recall that verse has been rather problematic for many commentators, because Krishna tells Arjuna: nis-trai-guNyo bhavaarjuna (bhava+arjuna) that is, not-three-'guNaic' be, Arjuna! In the next

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: There is nothing in doing TM that conflicts with doing any religion as currently practiced. There is no insult to any intelligence. There are specific

[FairfieldLife] Re: STARSHIP ANY DAY NOW

2009-03-15 Thread Duveyoung
This playlet is the best thing Turq has posted in all the time I've been here -- an entertaining and very professional effort with some hefty conceptual clout. He says it took a couple hours to create -- hard to believe him on that -- looks like a lot more time was spent. If it was only a

[FairfieldLife] STARSHIP ANY DAY NOW: The Making Of

2009-03-15 Thread TurquoiseB
Ok, this was a weirder and longer rant than most. But its genesis says a lot about my life and how I live it, and this really *is* a very pleasant cafe, so I'm going to rap a bit about how it came to be. It was a melding-together of a number of different experiences over the last couple of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Blue Balls Of Enlightenment

2009-03-15 Thread Duveyoung
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Poet craps on petty flaps Entraps self in ego wraps Canning jokes with bad scanning rhymes Will end fanning at bat with panning slimes Wrest

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Spirit Level - could change politics

2009-03-15 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudi...@... wrote: they find is that, in states and countries where there is a big gap between the incomes of rich and poor, mental illness, drug and alcohol abuse, obesity and teenage pregnancy are more common, the homicide rate is higher,

[FairfieldLife] Re: STARSHIP ANY DAY NOW

2009-03-15 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Marvellous. Love it. Many of you have heard the rumors. Well, they are true. Global Good News *has* been working on a TV series to follow up the success of their Global Good Music effort. It will be broadcast on the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Gayatri, Buddhist mantra, HHDL on enlightenment

2009-03-15 Thread Kirk
Sounds kinda bookish. Who wrote all that? - Original Message - From: emptybill To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 9:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Gayatri, Buddhist mantra, HHDL on enlightenment All this yada yada yada. WTF. Does anyone

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_li...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: There is nothing in doing TM that conflicts with doing any religion as currently

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Global Good News Music Mall

2009-03-15 Thread Kirk
That's enough to make me say, Jesus! - Original Message - From: bob_brigante no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 12:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Global Good News Music Mall --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer

[FairfieldLife] Re: STARSHIP ANY DAY NOW

2009-03-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: This playlet is the best thing Turq has posted in all the time I've been here -- an entertaining and very professional effort with some hefty conceptual clout. Thanks. He says it took a couple hours to create -- hard

Re: [FairfieldLife] STARSHIP ANY DAY NOW

2009-03-15 Thread Kirk
Thanks. I laughed pretty thoroughly. - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 8:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] STARSHIP ANY DAY NOW Many of you have heard the rumors. Well, they are true. Global Good News *has*

[FairfieldLife] Re: STARSHIP ANY DAY NOW

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Many of you have heard the rumors. Well, they are true. Global Good News *has* been working on a TV series to follow up the success of their Global Good Music effort. It will be broadcast on the Maharishi Channel weekly.

[FairfieldLife] Rewarding the Best and the Brightest

2009-03-15 Thread grate . swan
AIG's CEO apparently lost the irony in his statement. The Best and the widely read book The Best and the Brightest -- an absorbing account of the whiz kids, including Robert Macnamara, from the JFK and Johnson administrations, who took the US into the huge debacle known as the Vietnam war

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukr...@... wrote: snip Even the current Pope gave his blessing while he was Cardinal Ratzinger, and he is a very much a conservative. Er, no, he didn't. From 1989: Vatican Warns About Zen, Yoga VATICAN CITY (AP) - The Vatican Thursday

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread Duveyoung
shukra69 wrote: There is nothing in doing TM that conflicts with doing any religion as currently practiced. There is no insult to any intelligence. Actually, TM conflicts with TM. Eat what mother gives you. But not if she's a non-meditator and is a meat eater. A TM TB mother would have the

[FairfieldLife] Irresponsible Advice

2009-03-15 Thread Rick Archer
The other day while driving, I was listening to KHOE, the local MUM radio station (http://khoe.org/) and there was a show in which John Hagelin was reading meditators' questions to Maharishi. One kid asked him whether he should study modern mathematics, which he obviously wanted to do. Apparently

[FairfieldLife] The Culture Warriors Get Laid Off - Frank Rich

2009-03-15 Thread do.rflex
= What's been revealing about watching conservatives debate their fate since their Election Day Waterloo is how, the occasional Frum excepted, so many of them don't want to confront the obsolescence of culture wars as a political crutch. They'd rather, like Cantor, just change the subject —

[FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice

2009-03-15 Thread Duveyoung
It should be noted that anyone with, say, an IQ of 140 or more can pass most advanced math courses, but it really really really takes a much higher IQ to achieve anything new in math. So if Hag thought the kid was asking if he should attempt to be a world class mathematician, then the kid would

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice

2009-03-15 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:40 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice It should be noted that anyone with, say, an IQ of 140 or more can pass

[FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice

2009-03-15 Thread grate . swan
There is a delicious irony in this post. Perhaps a brilliant satire. First, the word infallible. Who does not shirk at that word -- and that any of us felt another was infallible. The deep laughter in our soul at the infallibility of the pope still haunts us perhaps from past ages when we

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: [...] I still think the most important thing to bear in mind is that if, as a religious person, you don't believe in what another religion teaches, practices of that other religion that don't involve conscious professions of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice

2009-03-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: The other day while driving, I was listening to KHOE, the local MUM radio station (http://khoe.org/) and there was a show in which John Hagelin was reading meditators' questions to Maharishi. One kid asked him whether he should

Re: [FairfieldLife] GTV

2009-03-15 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Eliza can't act. Last night's episode was probably the best written and directed one so far.

[FairfieldLife] SNL GIANTS -- Anyone see Will Ferrell's Goodbye to Bush?

2009-03-15 Thread Duveyoung
Anyone see Will Ferrell's Goodbye to Bush? I only caught the last half hour, and it was great. His ability to do a Bush impression is secondary to the script's precision targeting of all things Bushy. He didn't merely reduce Bush to a cartoon and, instead, allowed us to see that Bush is so

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: [...] I still think the most important thing to bear in mind is that if, as a religious person, you don't believe in what another religion teaches, practices

RE: [FairfieldLife] SNL GIANTS -- Anyone see Will Ferrell's Goodbye to Bush?

2009-03-15 Thread Rick Archer
Have you seen this one Edg?: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/74/the-landlord-from-will-ferrell-and-adam- ghost-panther-mckay

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dreamers (was: Is it just me?)

2009-03-15 Thread grate . swan
I came across The Dreamers and watched it this weekend. Checking other posts in Search, I see it has already been a topic. I am also readying The Long Tail (chortle if you must in thinking of Eva Green) written by an editor of Wired about the transition from a few hits to the almost infinite

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: [...] I still think the most important thing to bear in mind is that if, as a religious

[FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice

2009-03-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: This one got my panties in a bunch! WTF! A young person who loves math not being encouraged by an adult to pursue their study? Since I work with lots of kids this boggles my mind. The whole concept that Maharishi glibly used

[FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice

2009-03-15 Thread guyfawkes91
The other day while driving, This is odd, why are they rebroadcasting advice to stay away from maths and the hard sciences? Either they genuinely are so dim they can't see the irony of having Hagelin, ubernerd, passing on advice to stay away from logic, reason, maths and physics, or they

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dreamers (was: Is it just me?)

2009-03-15 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: In The Dreamers Bertolucci had the inestimable good karma to introduce to the world Eva Green. Before that, at 23, she was in The Dreamers. Berto- lucci describes her as so beautiful it's indecent. That pretty

[FairfieldLife] Re: GTV

2009-03-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: So why don't you give us your expert critic break down of why you thought this last episode was the weakest? Different strokes is a bit of cop out. And miss jacuzzi time? Fergeddaboutit. I made you a film director in

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice

2009-03-15 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of guyfawkes91 Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 1:38 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice The other day while driving, This is odd, why are they rebroadcasting

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dreamers (was: Is it just me?)

2009-03-15 Thread TurquoiseB
Eva Green has edged out Isabelle Adjani as my favorite woman in cinema, so I should be all over this one. But I'm in the jacuzzi right now, so maybe later. :-) Glad you liked the movie. I did, too. The ques- tion of whether it is a great film or not I leave to others. I just watch it over and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice

2009-03-15 Thread Bhairitu
Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:40 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice It should be noted that anyone with, say, an IQ

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: [...]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: The other day while driving, I was listening to KHOE, the local MUM radio station (http://khoe.org/) and there was a show in which John Hagelin was reading meditators' questions to Maharishi. One kid asked him whether he

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: [...] I still think the most important thing to bear in mind is that if, as a religious person, you don't believe in what another religion teaches, practices of that other religion that don't involve

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice

2009-03-15 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:30 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Seasonal spring/summer jobs available in Fairfield at Chappel Studios

2009-03-15 Thread Rick Archer
Hello All, The 2009 season is coming up soon and the Fairfield office needs to fill a total of 100+ positions in the Customer Service, Fulfillment and Production departments. Depending on the position, these jobs will start anywhere between mid-April and early May. The job details can be found

[FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:30 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Repent, for example, is the term used in English translations of the Gospels for the Greek word metanoia. But going back to the Greek, it turns out that metanoia can also be understood to mean transcend (beyond-mind). So

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: snip Great topic. I only went back a few posts on this so I may miss some things. But as far as if it matters to some religious people that they are using another form of religious practice, I think that is more the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Gayatri, Buddhist mantra, HHDL on enlightenment

2009-03-15 Thread Zoran Krneta
Gayatri Mantra comes together with Yagya Upavit Samskara. If you want to learn and chant Gayatri there are some other things about which you have to take care... not only how pronounce properly. Other mantras are not included in this procedure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: GTV

2009-03-15 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: So why don't you give us your expert critic break down of why you thought this last episode was the weakest? Different strokes is a bit of cop out. And miss jacuzzi time? Fergeddaboutit. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: Well, not everyone accepts the universal being schtick that is basically a Hindu interpretation of the TC state. As I have pointed out before, a strong atheist might well attain God Consciousness or Unity Consciousness'

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip If you don't believe in other competing beings, or don't believe they can be invoked by repeating a Sanskrit sound, how can you be concerned that

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: I agree that these are two different POV's on the mantras which have a certain amount of validity in context. I think full disclosure of the mantra's religious source is the right thing. If what you say is

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread Duveyoung
The Christians whom I've banged against think that TM's pure being is the Devil's Playground -- one is opening one's self to demonic possession, ya see? Tell them that the goal is thoughtlessness and they run away from such a state, since it has no stance and that leaves Jesus out in the cold

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Repent, for example, is the term used in English translations of the Gospels for the Greek word metanoia. But going back to the Greek, it turns out

[FairfieldLife] Re: GTV

2009-03-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: So why don't you give us your expert critic break down of why you thought this last episode was the weakest? Different strokes is a

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread Duveyoung
Here's something that would be a huge red flag to any Christian: Maharishi was asked if transcending was like dying. Maharishi closes his eyes for almost a minute, then opened them and said, Yes. Try that on your family members. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread Vaj
On Mar 15, 2009, at 4:02 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Repent, for example, is the term used in English translations of the Gospels for the Greek word metanoia. But going back to the Greek, it turns out that metanoia can also

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the biblical speakers intended. And in any case, that isn't how repentance is generally taught; it's a process, not an instant transformation. It is instant enough to work at a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Culture Warriors Get Laid Off - Frank Rich

2009-03-15 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: = What's been revealing about watching conservatives debate their fate since their Election Day Waterloo is how, the occasional Frum excepted, so many of them don't want to confront the obsolescence of culture wars as a

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip As to your second point, let me go back to my earlier comment on which the one above was based, responding to Vaj: - I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the biblical speakers intended. And in any case, that isn't how repentance is generally

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the biblical speakers intended. And in any case, that isn't how repentance is generally taught; it's a process, not an instant transformation. But not a process of meditation

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the biblical speakers intended. And in any case, that isn't how repentance is generally

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the biblical speakers intended. And in any case, that isn't how repentance is generally

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Here's something that would be a huge red flag to any Christian: Maharishi was asked if transcending was like dying. Maharishi closes his eyes for almost a minute, then opened them and said, Yes. Try that on your

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the biblical speakers intended. And in any case, that isn't how repentance is generally

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the biblical speakers intended. And in any case, that isn't how repentance is generally taught; it's a

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the biblical speakers intended. And in any case, that isn't how repentance is generally

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the biblical

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Here's something that would be a huge red flag to any Christian: Maharishi was asked if transcending was like dying. Maharishi closes his eyes for almost a minute, then opened them and said, Yes. Try that on your

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread ruthsimplicity
Judy: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the biblical speakers intended. And in any case, that isn't how repentance is generally taught; it's a process, not an instant transformation. Curtis: It is instant

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Mar 15, 2009, at 4:02 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Repent, for example, is the term used in English translations of the Gospels for the Greek word

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the biblical speakers intended.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bat-Shit Insane -- A Generalized Rant About Language

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
Finishing up with this from Ruth last week: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip But my point was, and remains, that we need to learn to love bats and do what we can to protect them.

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread bob_brigante
Well, it is work in that you have to do something. Even if that something is sitting and meditating. Time passes and you bring you mind to the mantra. It still is doing something. *** TM is called a natural technique because it is conducted by nature -- effort is not called for.

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread shukra69
One of my great uncles stopped TM for this reason, he said it felt like dying to him, and he didn't like that feeling.Not for any religious dogma. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Here's something that would be a huge red flag to any Christian: Maharishi

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice

2009-03-15 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 3:02 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice I'm still puzzled as to why you suggest the kid might have forfeited a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice

2009-03-15 Thread shukra69
Hagelin is a physicist who teaches physics and so was Maharishi, so is the head of the Maharishi school in Fairfield. Of course they want more mathematicians . You can't get anywhere in Physics without Math. You are misunderstanding something there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: snip Non Sequitur City. Not really. You have to look at the whole package and part of the package is the puja and the siddhis and everything else that MMY branded as part of his enlightenment package. Especially given his

[FairfieldLife] Re: GTV

2009-03-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: Different strokes for different folks is what I said, and Different strokes for different strokes is what I meant. You can have your opinion; I can have mine. The universe is seemingly big enough

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread Vaj
On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:34 PM, bob_brigante wrote: Well, it is work in that you have to do something. Even if that something is sitting and meditating. Time passes and you bring you mind to the mantra. It still is doing something. *** TM is called a natural technique because it is

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip I certainly am not a biblical expert, Nope. Neither am I. I read the bible back in college years ago. So the current message of accepting Jesus as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Irresponsible Advice

2009-03-15 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 15, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Rick Archer wrote: The other day while driving, I was listening to KHOE, the local MUM radio station (http://khoe.org/) and there was a show in which John Hagelin was reading meditators' questions to Maharishi. One kid asked him whether he should study modern

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I'm not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bat-Shit Insane -- A Generalized Rant About Language

2009-03-15 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: (Oh, and it's just me who's poisonous, right? Not Barry or Vaj or Sal or Lawson or Curtis or anybody else. Sarcasm would be unknown on this forum if it weren't for me. Right, Ruth?) I address the sarcasm addressed to me

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Irresponsible Advice

2009-03-15 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 15, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Rick Archer wrote: It should be noted that anyone with, say, an IQ of 140 or more can pass most advanced math courses, but it really really really takes a much higher IQ to achieve anything new in math. So if Hag thought the kid was asking if he should attempt

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Non Sequitur City. Not really. You have to look at the whole package No, you don't, not with regard to the point I was making, which had to do

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Please look up the word perhaps in Mr. Dictionary. Perhaps you should look up pedantic in Mr. Dictionary.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bat-Shit Insane -- A Generalized Rant About Language

2009-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: (Oh, and it's just me who's poisonous, right? Not Barry or Vaj or Sal or Lawson or Curtis or anybody else. Sarcasm would be unknown on this forum if

[FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.

2009-03-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: snip If you don't believe in other competing beings, or don't believe they can be invoked by repeating a Sanskrit sound, how can you be concerned that this is what you may be doing when you practice TM? It

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