[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-04 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: The word scripture means 'writing'. It is a piece of writing. Any piece of writing might do if for some reason it is revered by some one person or more. My point in bringing up this topic was merely to

[FairfieldLife] Is describing the Bible accurately oppression?

2012-05-04 Thread turquoiseb
A good article that makes the same point I just tried to make about the idiocy of playing shoot the messenger when someone points out disturbing truths about something one believes in. If you're at all interested in the subject, click on the link in the first sentence and find out what Dan Savage

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-04 Thread Vaj
On May 3, 2012, at 3:49 PM, emptybill wrote: I was at the Fiuggi 2000 course and we did not sign or pledge anything. Learning the param-para puja and bBecoming a TM teacher was itself considered a pledge. Then get selling mantras dude! Perhaps at your next Yonge Khachab retreat you vent

[FairfieldLife] Re: Morning Meditation

2012-05-04 Thread Buck
The Golden Domes yield A thousand sacred sweets Before we reach the heav'nly fields, Or walk the golden streets. (fugue) Then let your songs abound, And ev'ry tear by dry; We're marching through To fairer worlds on high. Om, Return Again. Om, revive us! Om, revive us! All our

[FairfieldLife] Re: Morning Meditation

2012-05-04 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: The Golden Domes yield A thousand sacred sweets Before we reach the heav'nly fields, Or walk the golden streets. (fugue) Then let your songs abound, And ev'ry tear by dry; We're marching through To fairer worlds on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy booed in Waco for pointing out Bible error

2012-05-04 Thread Vaj
On May 3, 2012, at 5:41 PM, cardemaister wrote: FWIW: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/akandabaratam/message/29172 Nice find Card. Comments interleaved: Makuta, Chandrajnana and Parameshvara Agama (...) There is a major disconnect between what we read of Hinduism in the vedas,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Morning Meditation

2012-05-04 Thread Buck
how many get in the domes? Some 400 to 600, depending on the day. Tends to be more in the evenings, fewer in the mornings. The mornings tend to be more wakeful. The evenings folks bring a fatigue of the day and can nod off more. Spiritually it's nice either way, morning with fewer or evening

[FairfieldLife] Oz on Transcendental Meditation

2012-05-04 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/oz-transcendental-meditation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-04 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Not all who became initiators took it that way, though a lot of us did. I've been a big fan of that puja for a long time. There were years when I

[FairfieldLife] DONOVAN Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

2012-05-04 Thread merlin
http://www.tm.org/blog/people/donovan/ Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductee Talks About TM’s Influence on Music

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-04 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: I was made a TM initiator by Maharishi on my birthday in 1972 in Fiuggi, Italy. According to the number assigned me I was the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-04 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: The Guru Stotram (the TM puja) gets sung every morning at the Domes. For TM as a movement it is an acculturating thing now in function. For ever

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
The word scripture means 'writing'. It is a piece of writing... turquoiseb: Judy, presented with an opinion from Vaj, one that is also undeniably fact (that Maharishi's teaching that he characterized as the holy tradition wasn't, and was made up by him)... So what part exactly, is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Avinu (Our Father) The Lord's Prayer

2012-05-04 Thread merudanda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAEIrp4MFBE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36GYBTzJyAU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu34EKcE7Uw --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
You two used to bow down to the Hindu Gods and you took an oath to your guru to keep the teaching pure. Did you take an oath on TTC? No, but everyone knows that when you become a TM Teacher you bow down to your guru and pledge to keep the teaching pure - it's in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Morning Meditation

2012-05-04 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: how many get in the domes? Some 400 to 600, depending on the day. Tends to be more in the evenings, fewer in the mornings. The mornings tend to be more wakeful. The evenings folks bring a fatigue of the day and can nod

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
You are a smart enough guy, Richard, that you don't need to make stuff up to make your points. Xenophaneros: Not every procedure in the TMO has existed throughout its history. Legalese documents etc., have proliferated over the years. So, maybe some teachers didn't agree to a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy booed in Waco for pointing out Bible error

2012-05-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
Xenophaneros: Mohammad probably is a bit more certain, but that guy had a real chip on his shoulder, in spite of some spiritual clarity... Spencer does an amazing job showing that there is, in fact, no historical evidence at all that Mohammed ever existed, and that the tales about him

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
Very nice, thanks for sharing. Regarding the Puja, Maharishi allowed doing Puja when appropiate, and not only for Initiation many years ago... turquoiseb: Grown adults talking about someone allowing them to do something? What a waste of a mind... Here is an updated version of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-04 Thread Bhairitu
On 05/04/2012 07:52 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: You two used to bow down to the Hindu Gods and you took an oath to your guru to keep the teaching pure. Did you take an oath on TTC? No, but everyone knows that when you become a TM Teacher you bow down to your guru and pledge to keep

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-04 Thread merudanda
Didn't Baba Muktananda wrote about this version of the Sri Guru Gita in Nectar of Chanting:...its 181 stanzas in varied verse patterns beautifully describe the importance of devotion to the Guru, his role, his nature, and his distinguishing characteristics. If one who is devoted to the Guru

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-04 Thread Bhairitu
Pujas can be cobbled together from other devotional texts. They can be shorter or longer. Gurus will arrange them or even give the disciple shortened versions or instructions for minimal pujas. Generally a disciple does not need the full long puja (and we're talking far longer than the 3

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-04 Thread authfriend
Barry's still smarting from having his buttons pushed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip I think that both crazies are lazy, and are a great example of how believing in scripture or dogma erodes their ability to think. A rational response from the Waco

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is describing the Bible accurately oppression?

2012-05-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: A good article that makes the same point I just tried to make about the idiocy of playing shoot the messenger when someone points out disturbing truths about something one believes in. Note the automatic, unquestioned

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-04 Thread Susan
I was in Fiuggi, and that pledge looks very familiar. I think I must have read it and signed it at some point there or on an ATR course a year later. I do not recall Jerry having us make a verbal pledge, but maybe we did. It was an amazing time, and I felt so grateful to be there. After

[FairfieldLife] Secrets of the Incas

2012-05-04 Thread John
It could be that the Nazca Lines in Peru were not caused by ETs. The Lines are actually representations of the constellations in the sky. The various constellations also represent the various clans who lived in the valley. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCW35nSeLP0

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
merudanda: On scripture one of the poets, whose name I cannot recall, Did I tell you about the time I lost my keys and they were in my right hand? has a passage, which I am unable at the moment to remember, in one of his works, which for the time being has slipped my mind... Did I

[FairfieldLife] Donovan on Conan

2012-05-04 Thread cardemaister
http://teamcoco.com/category/tags/donovan

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Incas

2012-05-04 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: It could be that the Nazca Lines in Peru were not caused by ETs. I would say that's a given. The Lines are actually representations of the constellations in the sky. The various constellations also represent the various clans

[FairfieldLife] Perfect Friday Afternoon Sentiment :-)

2012-05-04 Thread turquoiseb
http://weknowmemes.com/?random http://weknowmemes.com/2012/04/this-hamster-thinks-that-is-a-great-idea\ / [looks like its fuck this shit o clock] http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/looks-like-its-fuck-t\ his-shit-o-clock.jpg

Re: [FairfieldLife] Perfect Friday Afternoon Sentiment :-)

2012-05-04 Thread Emily Reyn
That was in the old days.seems to me most on this forum, myself included currently, have pretty good Friday afternoons :) From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 12:53 PM Subject:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Perfect Friday Afternoon Sentiment :-)

2012-05-04 Thread Emily Reyn
Do you want to funk it up? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXI4hvLtjKEfeature=related From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 12:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Perfect Friday Afternoon Sentiment :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is describing the Bible accurately oppression?

2012-05-04 Thread Emily Reyn
snip Typical shallowness from Barry. Shallowness or simplification or compartmentalism ?  I was nicer :) From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is describing the

[FairfieldLife] Great analysis of the economic situation

2012-05-04 Thread Bhairitu
From Danny Schechter's show today with economic analyst Catherine Austin Fitts: http://prn.fm/2012/05/04/news-dissector-050412/ Fitts makes a number of points you can use against the cranky sheeple who hate OWS. We're also so heavily vested in the fraudulent economic system it will be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Perfect Friday Afternoon Sentiment :-)

2012-05-04 Thread Bhairitu
On 05/04/2012 12:55 PM, Emily Reyn wrote: That was in the old days.seems to me most on this forum, myself included currently, have pretty good Friday afternoons :) From: turquoisebno_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is describing the Bible accurately oppression?

2012-05-04 Thread Emily Reyn
snip I've always made a distinction between MMY's teachings on the nature and mechanics of consciousness and his personal opinions on social/sexual/political etc. issues. I've never revered the latter and strenuously disagree with many of them. You see, this requires compartmentalism.  While I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From Mark Landau: Love and Forgiveness

2012-05-04 Thread Emily Reyn
To Mark: Forgive me father.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSgfeature=relmfu From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: From Mark Landau: Love and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Avinu (Our Father) The Lord's Prayer

2012-05-04 Thread Emily Reyn
Wow.  Thanks.   From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 7:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Avinu (Our Father) The Lord's Prayer   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAEIrp4MFBE

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is describing the Bible accurately oppression?

2012-05-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: snip Typical shallowness from Barry. Shallowness or simplification or compartmentalism ?  I was nicer :) Well, you're just a nicer person. Thank goodness there are a few of 'em on FFL. ;-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is describing the Bible accurately oppression?

2012-05-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: snip I've always made a distinction between MMY's teachings on the nature and mechanics of consciousness and his personal opinions on social/sexual/political etc. issues. I've never revered the latter and strenuously

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2012-05-04 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Apr 28 00:00:00 2012 End Date (UTC): Sat May 05 00:00:00 2012 349 messages as of (UTC) Fri May 04 23:22:46 2012 41 Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com 36 Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 29 turquoiseb

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-04 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip But that's just my opinion. You are free to have your own opinion. I rest my case. Now make yours. :-) I think of scripture being

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip Judy, presented with an opinion from Vaj, one that is also undeniably fact (that Maharishi's teaching that he characterized as the holy tradition wasn't, and was made up by him), did *exactly* the same thing and accused

[FairfieldLife] It's not your grandfather's military any more

2012-05-04 Thread sparaig
interesting video concerning study on TM at Norwich University, the home of the ROTC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIH0913lQe0feature=g-all-u The brigadier who comments on the study later on is http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/cgsc/Events/CSF/BG_Rhonda_Cornum_Bio.pdf Brigadier General Rhonda

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-04 Thread merudanda
[:D] Ahh --that time..wasn't it the first known instance of lost keys when the Devil took the Keys to the Pearly Gates.(BTW Satan denies hiding the Keys, but doesn't he denies always everything? God too proud to admit his mistake to give the Keys into your right hand, insisted that