Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seerdope@... wrote : Perhaps (probably) he did.  (Traditionally) it is not uncommon for realized beings, even those well on the way, to know when prarabdha karma will come to an end. There is not much to be done to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sorry. Typo corrected below in red. Making the correction because I think it's a valid point. This whole thang of the enlightened having no more karma can be explained as coming from the subjective experience of extreme narcissism. *They* don't feel any affects from their negative actions any

[FairfieldLife] Translating the word of gods

2014-12-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Having recently posted on this forum that I consider The Lord of the Rings to be both better written and more spiritual than The Bible, I follow up with this article about the perils of daring to re-translate such a masterpiece. It's like what the story of creating the New International Version

[FairfieldLife] [Gross] Scene from Iron Sky 2 ...

2014-12-09 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Dudeson Jukka Hildén (yook-kah hill-dehn) on the cross: Duudson ristillä - katso rajut kuvat Jukka Hildénistä http://www.iltasanomat.fi/viihde/art-1418025112332.html?pos=ok-nln http://www.iltasanomat.fi/viihde/art-1418025112332.html?pos=ok-nln Duudson ristillä - katso rajut kuvat Jukka

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Son, that is life in the body. This is what I'm talking about. Buck talks like there really is another sort of life! The implications are staggering but this sort of thing gets bandied

Re: [FairfieldLife] Srividya Temple near Rochester New York

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/8/2014 7:24 PM, srijau wrote: So, what is /Sri Vidya/ and what is it's connection to SBS? teaching Sri Vidya diksha without regard to caste or ethnicity http://srividya.org/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Son, that is life in the body. This is what I'm talking about. Buck talks like there really is another sort of life! The implications are staggering but this sort of thing gets bandied

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 4:23 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */Those are Buck's mantras. When he gets his next TMO advanced techniques, they'll become Sri Sri Neganaut Spiritual Terrorist Period Of Silence Namah Namah./* Apparently Barry failed to get the memo from Alex. Go figure. /Indeed! And, the real

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 12/9/2014 4:23 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Those are Buck's mantras. When he gets his next TMO advanced techniques, they'll become Sri Sri Neganaut Spiritual Terrorist Period Of Silence Namah Namah. Apparently Barry failed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As I have said before, the original holy men were guys who had left regular society because they were too lazy to work so they sat in the forests smoking ganja and having realistic daydreams like George Hammond. When someone would come along and ask them What you doing sitting here in this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : As I have said before, the original holy men were guys who had left regular society because they were too lazy to work so they sat in the forests smoking ganja and having realistic daydreams like George Hammond. When someone

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : As I have said before, the original holy men were guys who had left regular society because they were too lazy to work so they sat in the forests smoking ganja and having realistic daydreams

[FairfieldLife] George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

2014-12-09 Thread david335577
Some reflections on George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture: The following reflections are my own opinion only (I believe strongly that opinions should never be presented as facts). It was fun to see in the audience someone who played an important role in the Movement, and who was briefly

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
 I don't buy the existence of karma itself. It started with the ancient Indians and spread from there to China and Japan via Buddhism. I mean, if this is the reality of life, how come only the ancient Hindus figured it out? Because they lived in the land of the veda? All the other ancient

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known    I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Go ahead to take her up on her offer to lecture! The more the money rolls in the less the guilt will become, that seems to be the experience of all the enlightenment peddlers. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014

Re: [FairfieldLife] George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

2014-12-09 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I agree with much of what you say except the praise of Marshy. He was a blatant liar and con artist. Some of his endless lectures were nice, but without the halo of enlightenment that many of his followers put around him mentally, many of his talks came off as so much blabber. There are a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Good one! Wonder if Doug thinks that the destruction as her might call it of FFL and the very existence of us neganauts are part of HIS karma? From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Kurt Vonnegut already beat you to it. Under the guise of Bokonon and Bokononism in Cat's Cradle, he wrote: 'All the true things I am about to tell you are shameless lies.' Enlightenment is recognising that the world of experience one was trying to escape from, to get to a better place, is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fw: Ferguson

2014-12-09 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
 Pants up, don't loot! From: wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 3:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fw: Ferguson      From: l.donaldl...@gmail.com To: l.donaldl...@gmail.com Sent:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
There is that, of course -- the idea that any attempt at describing enlightenment will be by definition fiction. What I was thinking of with this post, however, was my earlier musing suggesting (in all seriousness) that The Lord of the Rings was as spiritual as The Bible, if not more so. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Dear MJ, You drop the name, Alice Bailey? Actually Alice Bailey is right on it. You will certainly find out in the end. Make good use of your time while you are here. And, Stop being so incredibly negative while you can, too. It is really spiritually sinful to the subtle-bodies of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Go ahead to take her up on her offer to lecture! The more the money rolls in the less the guilt will become, that seems to be the experience of all the enlightenment peddlers. Interesting idea but I'd be breaking all my own

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Doug, your TM besotted mind is causing you some cognitive dissonance. I was not dropping Bailey's name. Name dropping is something that is done to impress someone by associating the name dropper with the person mentioned. In no way do I wish to be associated with the likes of Bailey. She was as

[FairfieldLife] Rolling Stone belatedly discovers Bruce Cockburn

2014-12-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
And does a somewhat better job of factchecking and reportage than they did in a recent article currently getting more press.  The 'Rumours' Are True: Bruce Cockburn on His New Memoir |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | The 'Rumours' Are True: Bruce Cockburn on His New M...Bruce Cockburn opens

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : If you think my writing are harmful to the subtle bodies, at least to mine, I wonder what you think the fate of people like James Randi will be? I just wish he has gotten a-hold of faker liar Marshy during his huckster lifetime.

[FairfieldLife] TurquiseB was, Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 5:42 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */I suspect that the secret of following Buck's logic on all of this is that you need to be taking the same meds he is. /* Apparently you didn't get the memo from Alex. I thinks it's safe to say at this point that you have won the religious debate.

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

2014-12-09 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I really enjoyed that, thanks for posting. Many good points I agree with and a few I don't. I do think that George had a brain event that is more than just imagination. I believe that his ability to distinguish between internal and external experience was drastically compromised. Just a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't want to get in the middle of any the TMO killed Doug Henning discussion, but in a very real sense, they did. I knew Doug briefly because one of my roommates at the time created airbrush-painted silk costumes for him. During that year, I saw him go from TM newbie to Absolute,

[FairfieldLife] salyavin808, was Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
*/Those are Buck's mantras. When he gets his next TMO advanced techniques, they'll become Sri Sri Neganaut Spiritual Terrorist Period Of Silence Namah Namah./* Apparently Barry failed to get the memo from Alex. Go figure. On 12/9/2014 5:57 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Ooh, the

[FairfieldLife] Prarabdha / Sanchita Karma and Liberation (was greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It appears that at least some who seek or feel that they are have realized an enlightened state --- and talk and walk within the broad framework of vedic / hindu / yogic / buddhist / tantric traditions, have very limited understanding of the types and range of karma within those

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
ROTFL! You'd be have to be *quite* old to be name dropping Alice Bailey. OTOH, not everyone is trying to impress people by mentioning famous people they know. Sometimes it says more about the people who don't like name dropping in that it makes them feel insecure or jealous. For some people

[FairfieldLife] Fiction Writing, was Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 6:38 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */I figure that if I ever teach again, it will be in my writing, within the context of a book that starts with the words that every spiritual book, lecture, or teaching ever given *should* have started with: This is a work of fiction./* Thanks,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I've never been impressed by Randi as I found his research often just to be a magic trick itself. I was even less impressed after seeing the documentary. I noticed that as a kid he was already cocky and narcissistic and this whole shtick has been to make himself look smarter than others. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] [Gross] Scene from Iron Sky 2 ...

2014-12-09 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Downtown we have a little Santa Shack where folks can bring their kids to meet Santa. On Sunday in the lineup was a guy with long hair and beard wearing a wedding dress. I should have taken a picture. I was imagining the tongue biting going on by the parents in line with their kids and

[FairfieldLife] Karma, Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 6:48 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I don't buy the existence of karma itself. It started with the ancient Indians and spread from there to China and Japan via Buddhism. /What happens when you drop a big rock on your toe? All things fall down because gravity sucks. Maybe you failed

[FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It appears that at least some who seek or feel that they are have realized an enlightened state --- and talk and walk within the broad framework of vedic / hindu / yogic / buddhist / tantric traditions, have very limited understanding of the types and range of karma within those traditions(1)

[FairfieldLife] Michael Jackson, was Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 7:10 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: Good one! Wonder if Doug thinks that the destruction as her might call it of FFL and the very existence of us neganauts are part of HIS karma? Apparently you failed to get the memo from FFL Moderator. /Indeed! And, the real problem is that there

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
We seem to have some people here who have misinterpreted Buddha and hammers. Kurt Vonnegut would be disappointed given his story Harrison Bergeron. TM, yoga and meditation are self improvement programs. So if practicing makes you better then the next guy, so be it. That's what you signed

[FairfieldLife] Barry's Fiction, was Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 8:36 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */There is that, of course -- the idea that any attempt at describing enlightenment will be by definition fiction. /* We are pretty much 100% in agreement on this, Barry. /I've seen him project the double, as described in the Castaneda books. One

[FairfieldLife] GMO's was Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 10:44 AM, salyavin808 wrote: One phone call to the chief later, and it turned out the opposite was true and they were hiring new officers. Randi felt that was all the research he had to do. Others got stuck in to the published papers on the ME but I would have loved to see the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Karma, Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
For those who don't like the word karma, there's always the popular phrase: what goes around comes around (-: From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:16 AM

[FairfieldLife] Woo Woo, was Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 10:56 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */I don't want to get in the middle of any the TMO killed Doug Henning discussion, but in a very real sense, they did. I knew Doug briefly because one of my roommates at the time created airbrush-painted silk costumes for him. During that year, I saw

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It seems to me that the same issues you brought up about verifying such claims pertain to the question of how could a human know such a thing in the first place? Most traditions that propose such theories seem to resort to: God wrote this book to account for how a human could get this kind

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I don't want to get in the middle of any the TMO killed Doug Henning discussion, but in a very real sense, they did. I knew Doug briefly because one of my roommates at the time created airbrush-painted silk costumes for him.

[FairfieldLife] Re: YhWh is Shiva?

2014-12-09 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re Sorry, I'm just not finding any evidence that Kabbalistic teaching is heavily influenced by Greek Neoplatonic and Gnostic influences.: Here you go: From Wiki: Sefer Yetzirah is the title of the earliest extant book on Jewish esotericism. The Sefer Yetzirah is similar to various

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I don't want to get in the middle of any the TMO killed Doug Henning discussion, but in a very real sense, they did. I knew Doug briefly because one of my roommates at the time created

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I don't want to get in the middle of any the TMO killed Doug Henning discussion, but in a very real sense, they did. I knew

[FairfieldLife] New World Order

2014-12-09 Thread salyavin808
Meet the new boss: CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal and ineffective http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World Order

2014-12-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal and ineffective The world responds, Duh!

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World Order

2014-12-09 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Same as the old boss ... won't get fooled again!  yeah, right. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] New World Order   Meet the new boss: CIA torture report brands post-9/11

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

2014-12-09 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'm surprised they would let you have access to those early lectures, but I guess things got tighter as time went by. From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:53 AM Subject:

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World Order

2014-12-09 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
And why would they do that? Could it be that major corporations and financial interests had a stake in keeping up the endless war? The torture probably wasn't to get any info as they already knew many of these groups were actually other PSYOP operations. It was to get their jollies.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Enlightenment does not automatically give one instant knowledge of Indian philosophy. That's not what it is about and why so many TM'ers are confused. On 12/09/2014 09:15 AM, seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It appears that at least some who seek or feel that they are have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fw: Ferguson

2014-12-09 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
The looters probably are police or federal operatives there to turn the public against the protesters. I saw these scummy types at Occupy rallies. They just never fit the profile of a real protester. They do a fairly good job of it too as the local dummies would easily turn over their lives

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As I understand your question and framework, my approach is along alternate lines -- which I am happy to try to elucidate. I appreciate your background and skills in rational thinking, epistemology, understandings of the limitations and misperceptions of the senses and mind, cognitive

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Enlightenment does not automatically give one instant knowledge of Indian philosophy. Suits me, I'm not remotely interested in it. I heard that its value was that it had an analogue in particle physics but it doesn't. Just as

[FairfieldLife] Re: YhWh is Shiva?

2014-12-09 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Can I add something to make sure you aren't misunderstanding what I am claiming. What I am NOT saying is that the pagan Greeks and Christians came up with a spiritual and intellectual take on life that led those nasty Jews to think: I know what we should do. Let's plagiarise what those

[FairfieldLife] Burning Off Karma, was Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 2:10 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */As far as I can tell, based on the few teachers I've met who seemed to have a clue, there is NO SUCH THING as burning off all of one's karma. /* It's really getting deep around here. Can anyone on this forum spell cognitive dissonance? /As you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 12/09/2014 01:49 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Enlightenment does not automatically give one instant knowledge of Indian philosophy. So unless it isn't a neurophysiological state, enlightenment will be the same whether you know

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The observable world from the single cell organisms all the way to the stars show a decided lack of karma. It is just a scam created by the ancient Indians. Pretty good one too - people are still buying into it wholesale. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To:

[FairfieldLife] Spirituality, was Rolling Stone belatedly discovers Bruce Cockburn

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
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[FairfieldLife] Butt-Bouncing, was Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 6:04 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: As I have said before, the original holy men were guys who had left regular society because they were too lazy to work so they sat in the forests smoking ganja and having realistic daydreams like George Hammond. When someone would come along and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sal: ..the ability to gain knowledge of the external world by NOT looking at it and coming up with explanatory ideas for inner visions that explain reality would be a bitter blow to everyone toiling in laboratories to come up with fundamental physical ideas For me, traditional

[FairfieldLife] Harrison Bergeron, was Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 11:21 AM, Bhairitu wrote: We seem to have some people here who have misinterpreted Buddha and hammers. Kurt Vonnegut would be disappointed given his story Harrison Bergeron. /You are really cracking me up tonight! Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut is an anti-communist

Re: [FairfieldLife] Karma, Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 11:32 AM, Share Long wrote: For those who don't like the word karma, there's always the popular phrase: what goes around comes around (-: Indeed, Share. For those that don't like the word /karma/ there is always the phrase /cause and effect./ Or, put more simply, /Causation or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Let's take this from the general to the specific. For me, traditional cultures and their models and practices (Traditional) have a number of potentially useful hypotheses about how nature and the mind work Can you give maybe three useful hypotheses that really are useful from traditional

[FairfieldLife] The Greeks had a word for it

2014-12-09 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Gymnosophist Gymnosophists (naked philosophers or naked sophists) is the name given by the Greeks to ancient Indian philosophers who regarded food and clothing as detrimental to purity of thought (sadhus or yogis). At least some of the authors of the Upanishads lived at this time - the

[FairfieldLife] Post Count Wed 10-Dec-14 00:15:05 UTC

2014-12-09 Thread FFL PostCount ffl.postco...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 12/06/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 12/13/14 00:00:00 341 messages as of (UTC) 12/10/14 00:07:09 84 'Richard J. Williams' punditster 38 Michael Jackson mjackson74 36 Bhairitu noozguru 35 TurquoiseBee turquoiseb 24

[FairfieldLife] Supriya Vidic, passionate TM teacher

2014-12-09 Thread srijau
INTERVIEW: Supriya Vidic, Transcendental Meditation teacher - TMhome http://tmhome.com/experiences/interview-supriya-vidic-meditation-teacher/ http://tmhome.com/experiences/interview-supriya-vidic-meditation-teacher/ INTERVIEW: Supriya Vidic, Transcendental Meditation ...

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World Order

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 1:05 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Meet the new boss: /What the Democrats are doing is classic Alinskyism, posturing as the defenders of the American Way and hoping like hell that nobody remembers that rendition prisons began under the Clinton administration./ - Michael Walsh

[FairfieldLife] Guitar genius Abasi on ‘jump-starting’ creativity

2014-12-09 Thread srijau
Guitar genius TOSIN ABASI makes his American dream come true - TMhome http://tmhome.com/experiences/guitar-genius-abasi-on-jump-starting-creativity/ http://tmhome.com/experiences/guitar-genius-abasi-on-jump-starting-creativity/ Guitar genius TOSIN ABASI makes his American dream...

[FairfieldLife] Symphony of Silence” by George Ellis

2014-12-09 Thread srijau
BOOK REVIEW: Symphony of Silence, by George A. Ellis - TMhome http://tmhome.com/books-videos/symphony-of-silence-by-george-ellis/ http://tmhome.com/books-videos/symphony-of-silence-by-george-ellis/ BOOK REVIEW: Symphony of Silence, by George ...

[FairfieldLife] Smart Citys and Maharishi Solar

2014-12-09 Thread srijau
Jai Maharishi! Solar energy can fuel India’s economic growth: Experts - The Economic Times http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/energy/power/solar-energy-can-fuel-indias-economic-growth-experts/articleshow/45439609.cms

[FairfieldLife] Create Peace in the Middle East

2014-12-09 Thread srijau
Global World Peace Assembly to Create Peace in the Middle East http://www.maharishiglobalcalendar.org/emailing/2015-01-WPA_TURKEY/2015-01-15_WPA.html http://www.maharishiglobalcalendar.org/emailing/2015-01-WPA_TURKEY/2015-01-15_WPA.html Global World Peace Assembly to Create Peace in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fw: Ferguson

2014-12-09 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yeah, hired by Cheney back when he was VP From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fw: Ferguson  The looters probably are

[FairfieldLife] Raj Mata of Lucknow on Maharishi mahesh Yogi

2014-12-09 Thread srijau
Raj Mata of Lucknow, Uttar Pradesh (as told by Dr. Neil Patterson) In 1976, the Raj Mata of Lucknow, U. P., came to visit Maharishi in Switzerland. She had been a great devotee of Guru Dev when he was Shankaracharya and Guru Dev used to stay at the Royal Palace whenever he would visit

[FairfieldLife] World Peace through Latin America

2014-12-09 Thread srijau
help create world peace through Latin America, the experience of the TM teachers and some photos of the young flyers http://www.maharishichannel.in/archives/2014_mp4/2014_play_mp4.php http://www.maharishichannel.in/archives/2014_mp4/2014_play_mp4.php

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

2014-12-09 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Officially it never would have happened. I had a hook up on the library staff and these were transcripts that were under official radar. It helped me understand the different eras of Maharishi's presentation better both in the movement and now that I am out. He was a guy who learned as he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

2014-12-09 Thread seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Pre 68 India and/or the 4 SIMS courses from late 68 to early 70?

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World Order

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
*From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal and ineffective http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released On 12/9/2014 1:23 PM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

2014-12-09 Thread seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Pre 68 India and/or the Beatles course (early 68) and the 4 SIMS courses from late 68 to early 70?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This place can be very useful or articulating how you are thinking about complex topics, as well as integrating past and present perspectives. I would gladly extend our conversation to see what areas are of mutual interest, or even just as a writing prompt for divergent views. I appreciate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Create Peace in the Middle East

2014-12-09 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Let's hope this assembly will bring peace in the region. It would probably be more dangerous if the meeting was held in Baghdad. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Global World Peace Assembly to Create Peace in the Middle East

Re: [FairfieldLife] Create Peace in the Middle East

2014-12-09 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'm sure they will be just as successful in creating peace as every other WPA has ever been - meaning that they will have zero effect on all levels. From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 8:47 PM Subject:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The way I look at 'karma' is it is just action, what comes to you, what you do, and the effect of past life, what happened then, cultural conditioning, etc. One does not even have to think of it as 'past lives', just 'past life'; ten minutes ago could be past life. Maybe you insulted someone

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 11:52 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: It seems to me that the same issues you brought up about verifying such claims pertain to the question of how could a human know such a thing in the first place? Most traditions that propose such theories seem to resort to: God wrote this book to

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World Order

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 1:29 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: Same as the old boss ... won't get fooled again! yeah, right. *Five Facts and Five Fictions About CIA Rendition* http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/rendition701/updates/updates.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World Order

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 1:41 PM, Bhairitu wrote: And why would they do that? Why did the U.S. participate in renditions? You're not making any sense. Renditions are used primarily to disrupt a cell and remove a terror suspect from the battlefield. Could it be that major corporations and financial

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 1:43 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Enlightenment does not automatically give one instant knowledge of Indian philosophy. That's not what it is about and why so many TM'ers are confused. /Apparently they don't teach Buddhist logic at most universities, like they do at UT in the Center

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Enlightenment does not automatically give one instant knowledge of Indian philosophy. So unless it isn't a neurophysiological state, enlightenment will be the same whether you know anything about Indian philosophy or not. Wouldn't it? On 12/9/2014 4:53 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Yes.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 4:59 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: The observable world from the single cell organisms all the way to the stars show a decided lack of karma. Karma is defined as action or work. Everything from a single cell organism up to and including the stars, is dependent on action.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

2014-12-09 Thread geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Curtis! I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6 months or more. I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someone me the short story of what happened? More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 30th, having

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture

2014-12-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   Curtis! I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6 months or more. I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someone me the short story of what happened? I don't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known

2014-12-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Nicely said. That's essentially my view as well. Karma is no more mystical than the reaction that follows every action. EVERY action, including those of the enlightened. From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Create Peace in the Middle East

2014-12-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This course certainly establishes how many True Believers the TM movement feels it has left in the world. The hotel has a maximum of 507 rooms, 1098 beds. From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Greeks had a word for it

2014-12-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A simpler definition.  :-) From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Greeks had a word for it   Gymnosophist Gymnosophists (naked philosophers