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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seerdope@... wrote :
Perhaps (probably) he did. (Traditionally) it is not uncommon for realized
beings, even those well on the way, to know when prarabdha karma will come to
an end. There is not much to be done to
Sorry. Typo corrected below in red.
Making the correction because I think it's a valid point. This whole thang of
the enlightened having no more karma can be explained as coming from the
subjective experience of extreme narcissism. *They* don't feel any affects from
their negative actions any
Having recently posted on this forum that I consider The Lord of the Rings to
be both better written and more spiritual than The Bible, I follow up with
this article about the perils of daring to re-translate such a masterpiece.
It's like what the story of creating the New International Version
Dudeson Jukka Hildén (yook-kah hill-dehn) on the cross:
Duudson ristillä - katso rajut kuvat Jukka Hildénistä
http://www.iltasanomat.fi/viihde/art-1418025112332.html?pos=ok-nln
http://www.iltasanomat.fi/viihde/art-1418025112332.html?pos=ok-nln
Duudson ristillä - katso rajut kuvat Jukka
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
Son, that is life in the body.
This is what I'm talking about. Buck talks like there really is another sort of
life! The implications are staggering but this sort of thing gets bandied
On 12/8/2014 7:24 PM, srijau wrote:
So, what is /Sri Vidya/ and what is it's connection to SBS?
teaching Sri Vidya diksha without regard to caste or ethnicity
http://srividya.org/
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
Son, that is life in the body.
This is what I'm talking about. Buck talks like there really is another sort of
life! The implications are staggering but this sort of thing gets bandied
On 12/9/2014 4:23 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
*/Those are Buck's mantras. When he gets his next TMO advanced
techniques, they'll become Sri Sri Neganaut Spiritual Terrorist Period
Of Silence Namah Namah./*
Apparently Barry failed to get the memo from Alex. Go figure.
/Indeed! And, the real
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 12/9/2014 4:23 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
Those are Buck's mantras. When he gets his next TMO advanced techniques,
they'll become Sri Sri Neganaut Spiritual Terrorist Period Of Silence Namah
Namah.
Apparently Barry failed
As I have said before, the original holy men were guys who had left regular
society because they were too lazy to work so they sat in the forests smoking
ganja and having realistic daydreams like George Hammond.
When someone would come along and ask them What you doing sitting here in this
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
As I have said before, the original holy men were guys who had left regular
society because they were too lazy to work so they sat in the forests smoking
ganja and having realistic daydreams like George Hammond.
When someone
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
As I have said before, the original holy men were guys who had left regular
society because they were too lazy to work so they sat in the forests smoking
ganja and having realistic daydreams
Some reflections on George Hammond's November 30, 2014 Lecture:
The following reflections are my own opinion only (I believe strongly that
opinions should never be presented as facts). It was fun to see in the audience
someone who played an important role in the Movement, and who was briefly
I don't buy the existence of karma itself. It started with the ancient Indians
and spread from there to China and Japan via Buddhism.
I mean, if this is the reality of life, how come only the ancient Hindus
figured it out? Because they lived in the land of the veda? All the other
ancient
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I
Go ahead to take her up on her offer to lecture! The more the money rolls in
the less the guilt will become, that seems to be the experience of all the
enlightenment peddlers.
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I agree with much of what you say except the praise of Marshy. He was a blatant
liar and con artist. Some of his endless lectures were nice, but without the
halo of enlightenment that many of his followers put around him mentally, many
of his talks came off as so much blabber. There are a
Good one! Wonder if Doug thinks that the destruction as her might call it of
FFL and the very existence of us neganauts are part of HIS karma?
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Kurt Vonnegut already beat you to it. Under the guise of Bokonon and Bokononism
in Cat's Cradle, he wrote: 'All the true things I am about to tell you are
shameless lies.'
Enlightenment is recognising that the world of experience one was trying to
escape from, to get to a better place, is
Pants up, don't loot!
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There is that, of course -- the idea that any attempt at describing
enlightenment will be by definition fiction.
What I was thinking of with this post, however, was my earlier musing
suggesting (in all seriousness) that The Lord of the Rings was as spiritual
as The Bible, if not more so. I
Dear MJ, You drop the name, Alice Bailey? Actually Alice Bailey is right on
it. You will certainly find out in the end. Make good use of your time while
you are here. And, Stop being so incredibly negative while you can, too. It
is really spiritually sinful to the subtle-bodies of the
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Go ahead to take her up on her offer to lecture! The more the money rolls in
the less the guilt will become, that seems to be the experience of all the
enlightenment peddlers.
Interesting idea but I'd be breaking all my own
Doug, your TM besotted mind is causing you some cognitive dissonance.
I was not dropping Bailey's name. Name dropping is something that is done to
impress someone by associating the name dropper with the person mentioned.
In no way do I wish to be associated with the likes of Bailey. She was as
And does a somewhat better job of factchecking and reportage than they did in a
recent article currently getting more press.
The 'Rumours' Are True: Bruce Cockburn on His New Memoir
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| The 'Rumours' Are True: Bruce Cockburn on His New M...Bruce Cockburn opens
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
If you think my writing are harmful to the subtle bodies, at least to mine, I
wonder what you think the fate of people like James Randi will be? I just wish
he has gotten a-hold of faker liar Marshy during his huckster lifetime.
On 12/9/2014 5:42 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
*/I suspect that the secret of following Buck's logic on all of this
is that you need to be taking the same meds he is. /*
Apparently you didn't get the memo from Alex. I thinks it's safe to say
at this point that you have won the religious debate.
I really enjoyed that, thanks for posting. Many good points I agree with and a
few I don't. I do think that George had a brain event that is more than just
imagination. I believe that his ability to distinguish between internal and
external experience was drastically compromised. Just a
I don't want to get in the middle of any the TMO killed Doug Henning
discussion, but in a very real sense, they did. I knew Doug briefly because one
of my roommates at the time created airbrush-painted silk costumes for him.
During that year, I saw him go from TM newbie to Absolute,
*/Those are Buck's mantras. When he gets his next TMO advanced
techniques, they'll become Sri Sri Neganaut Spiritual Terrorist
Period Of Silence Namah Namah./*
Apparently Barry failed to get the memo from Alex. Go figure.
On 12/9/2014 5:57 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
Ooh, the
It appears that at least some who seek or feel that they are have realized an
enlightened state --- and talk and walk within the broad framework of vedic /
hindu / yogic / buddhist / tantric traditions, have very limited understanding
of the types and range of karma within those
ROTFL! You'd be have to be *quite* old to be name dropping Alice
Bailey. OTOH, not everyone is trying to impress people by mentioning
famous people they know. Sometimes it says more about the people who
don't like name dropping in that it makes them feel insecure or
jealous. For some people
On 12/9/2014 6:38 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
*/I figure that if I ever teach again, it will be in my writing,
within the context of a book that starts with the words that every
spiritual book, lecture, or teaching ever given *should* have
started with: This is a work of fiction./*
Thanks,
I've never been impressed by Randi as I found his research often just
to be a magic trick itself. I was even less impressed after seeing
the documentary. I noticed that as a kid he was already cocky and
narcissistic and this whole shtick has been to make himself look smarter
than others. I
Downtown we have a little Santa Shack where folks can bring their kids
to meet Santa. On Sunday in the lineup was a guy with long hair and
beard wearing a wedding dress. I should have taken a picture. I was
imagining the tongue biting going on by the parents in line with their
kids and
On 12/9/2014 6:48 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
I don't buy the existence of karma itself. It started with the
ancient Indians and spread from there to China and Japan via Buddhism.
/What happens when you drop a big rock on your toe? All things fall down
because gravity sucks. Maybe you failed
It appears that at least some who seek or feel that they are have realized an
enlightened state --- and talk and walk within the broad framework of vedic /
hindu / yogic / buddhist / tantric traditions, have very limited understanding
of the types and range of karma within those traditions(1)
On 12/9/2014 7:10 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
Good one! Wonder if Doug thinks that the destruction as her might call
it of FFL and the very existence of us neganauts are part of HIS karma?
Apparently you failed to get the memo from FFL Moderator.
/Indeed! And, the real problem is that there
We seem to have some people here who have misinterpreted Buddha and
hammers. Kurt Vonnegut would be disappointed given his story Harrison
Bergeron.
TM, yoga and meditation are self improvement programs. So if practicing
makes you better then the next guy, so be it. That's what you signed
On 12/9/2014 8:36 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
*/There is that, of course -- the idea that any attempt at describing
enlightenment will be by definition fiction.
/*
We are pretty much 100% in agreement on this, Barry.
/I've seen him project the double, as described in the Castaneda
books. One
On 12/9/2014 10:44 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
One phone call to the chief later, and it turned out the opposite was
true and they were hiring new officers. Randi felt that was all the
research he had to do. Others got stuck in to the published papers on
the ME but I would have loved to see the
For those who don't like the word karma, there's always the popular phrase:
what goes around comes around (-:
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On 12/9/2014 10:56 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
*/I don't want to get in the middle of any the TMO killed Doug
Henning discussion, but in a very real sense, they did. I knew Doug
briefly because one of my roommates at the time created
airbrush-painted silk costumes for him. During that year, I saw
It seems to me that the same issues you brought up about verifying such claims
pertain to the question of how could a human know such a thing in the first
place? Most traditions that propose such theories seem to resort to: God wrote
this book to account for how a human could get this kind
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
I don't want to get in the middle of any the TMO killed Doug Henning
discussion, but in a very real sense, they did. I knew Doug briefly because one
of my roommates at the time created airbrush-painted silk costumes for him.
Re Sorry, I'm just not finding any evidence that Kabbalistic teaching is
heavily influenced by Greek Neoplatonic and Gnostic influences.:
Here you go:
From Wiki:
Sefer Yetzirah is the title of the earliest extant book on Jewish esotericism.
The Sefer Yetzirah is similar to various
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
I don't want to get in the middle of any the TMO killed Doug Henning
discussion, but in a very real sense, they did. I knew Doug briefly because one
of my roommates at the time created
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
I don't want to get in the middle of any the TMO killed Doug Henning
discussion, but in a very real sense, they did. I knew
Meet the new boss:
CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal and ineffective
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released
CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program
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CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal and ineffective
The world responds, Duh!
Same as the old boss ... won't get fooled again! yeah, right.
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Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:05 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] New World Order
Meet the new boss:
CIA torture report brands post-9/11
I'm surprised they would let you have access to those early lectures, but I
guess things got tighter as time went by.
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Subject:
And why would they do that? Could it be that major corporations and
financial interests had a stake in keeping up the endless war? The
torture probably wasn't to get any info as they already knew many of
these groups were actually other PSYOP operations. It was to get their
jollies.
Enlightenment does not automatically give one instant knowledge of
Indian philosophy. That's not what it is about and why so many TM'ers
are confused.
On 12/09/2014 09:15 AM, seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
It appears that at least some who seek or feel that they are have
The looters probably are police or federal operatives there to turn the
public against the protesters. I saw these scummy types at Occupy
rallies. They just never fit the profile of a real protester. They do
a fairly good job of it too as the local dummies would easily turn over
their lives
As I understand your question and framework, my approach is along alternate
lines -- which I am happy to try to elucidate. I appreciate your background
and skills in rational thinking, epistemology, understandings of the
limitations and misperceptions of the senses and mind, cognitive
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Enlightenment does not automatically give one instant knowledge of Indian
philosophy.
Suits me, I'm not remotely interested in it. I heard that its value was that
it had an analogue in particle physics but it doesn't. Just as
Can I add something to make sure you aren't misunderstanding what I am
claiming.
What I am NOT saying is that the pagan Greeks and Christians came up with a
spiritual and intellectual take on life that led those nasty Jews to think: I
know what we should do. Let's plagiarise what those
On 12/9/2014 2:10 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
*/As far as I can tell, based on the few teachers I've met who seemed
to have a clue, there is NO SUCH THING as burning off all of one's
karma.
/*
It's really getting deep around here. Can anyone on this forum spell
cognitive dissonance?
/As you
On 12/09/2014 01:49 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Enlightenment does not automatically give one instant knowledge of
Indian philosophy.
So unless it isn't a neurophysiological state, enlightenment will be
the same whether you know
The observable world from the single cell organisms all the way to the stars
show a decided lack of karma. It is just a scam created by the ancient Indians.
Pretty good one too - people are still buying into it wholesale.
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To:
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*/
On 12/9/2014 6:04 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
As I have said before, the original holy men were guys who had left
regular society because they were too lazy to work so they sat in the
forests smoking ganja and having realistic daydreams like George Hammond.
When someone would come along and
Sal: ..the ability to gain knowledge of the external world by NOT looking at
it and coming up with explanatory ideas for inner visions that explain reality
would be a bitter blow to everyone toiling in laboratories to come up with
fundamental physical ideas
For me, traditional
On 12/9/2014 11:21 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
We seem to have some people here who have misinterpreted Buddha and
hammers. Kurt Vonnegut would be disappointed given his story
Harrison Bergeron.
/You are really cracking me up tonight! Harrison Bergeron by Kurt
Vonnegut is an anti-communist
On 12/9/2014 11:32 AM, Share Long wrote:
For those who don't like the word karma, there's always the popular
phrase: what goes around comes around (-:
Indeed, Share. For those that don't like the word /karma/ there is
always the phrase /cause and effect./ Or, put more simply, /Causation
or
Let's take this from the general to the specific.
For me, traditional cultures and their models and practices (Traditional)
have a number of potentially useful hypotheses about how nature and the mind
work
Can you give maybe three useful hypotheses that really are useful from
traditional
Gymnosophist
Gymnosophists (naked philosophers or naked sophists) is the name given by
the Greeks to ancient Indian philosophers who regarded food and clothing as
detrimental to purity of thought (sadhus or yogis). At least some of the
authors of the Upanishads lived at this time - the
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The looters probably are
Raj Mata of Lucknow, Uttar Pradesh
(as told by Dr. Neil Patterson)
In 1976, the Raj Mata of Lucknow, U. P., came to visit Maharishi in
Switzerland. She had been a great devotee of Guru Dev when he was
Shankaracharya and Guru Dev used to stay at the Royal Palace whenever he would
visit
help create world peace through Latin America, the experience of the TM
teachers and some photos of the young flyers
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Officially it never would have happened. I had a hook up on the library staff
and these were transcripts that were under official radar. It helped me
understand the different eras of Maharishi's presentation better both in the
movement and now that I am out. He was a guy who learned as he
Pre 68 India and/or the 4 SIMS courses from late 68 to early 70?
*From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
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On 12/9/2014 1:23 PM,
Pre 68 India and/or the Beatles course (early 68) and the 4 SIMS courses from
late 68 to early 70?
This place can be very useful or articulating how you are thinking about
complex topics, as well as integrating past and present perspectives. I would
gladly extend our conversation to see what areas are of mutual interest, or
even just as a writing prompt for divergent views. I appreciate
Let's hope this assembly will bring peace in the region. It would probably be
more dangerous if the meeting was held in Baghdad.
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Global World Peace Assembly to Create Peace in the Middle East
I'm sure they will be just as successful in creating peace as every other WPA
has ever been - meaning that they will have zero effect on all levels.
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The way I look at 'karma' is it is just action, what comes to you, what you
do, and the effect of past life, what happened then, cultural conditioning,
etc. One does not even have to think of it as 'past lives', just 'past life';
ten minutes ago could be past life. Maybe you insulted someone
On 12/9/2014 11:52 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
It seems to me that the same issues you brought up about verifying
such claims pertain to the question of how could a human know such a
thing in the first place? Most traditions that propose such theories
seem to resort to: God wrote this book to
On 12/9/2014 1:29 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
Same as the old boss ... won't get fooled again! yeah, right.
*Five Facts and Five Fictions About CIA Rendition*
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On 12/9/2014 1:41 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
And why would they do that?
Why did the U.S. participate in renditions? You're not making any sense.
Renditions are used primarily to disrupt a cell and remove a terror
suspect from the battlefield.
Could it be that major corporations and financial
On 12/9/2014 1:43 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
Enlightenment does not automatically give one instant knowledge of
Indian philosophy. That's not what it is about and why so many TM'ers
are confused.
/Apparently they don't teach Buddhist logic at most universities, like
they do at UT in the Center
Enlightenment does not automatically give one instant knowledge of
Indian philosophy.
So unless it isn't a neurophysiological state, enlightenment will be
the same whether you know anything about Indian philosophy or not.
Wouldn't it?
On 12/9/2014 4:53 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
Yes.
On 12/9/2014 4:59 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
The observable world from the single cell organisms all the way to the
stars show a decided lack of karma.
Karma is defined as action or work. Everything from a single cell
organism up to and including the stars, is dependent on action.
Curtis!
I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6 months
or more.
I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someone me the
short story of what happened?
More importantly, I did watch George's 3 hour extravaganza on the 30th, having
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Curtis!
I check in here every few months but lately it's been more like every 6 months
or more.
I check in today and notice Judy is seemingly gone. Really? Can someone me the
short story of what happened?
I don't
Nicely said. That's essentially my view as well. Karma is no more mystical than
the reaction that follows every action. EVERY action, including those of the
enlightened.
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This course certainly establishes how many True Believers the TM movement feels
it has left in the world. The hotel has a maximum of 507 rooms, 1098 beds.
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A simpler definition. :-)
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Gymnosophist
Gymnosophists (naked philosophers
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