[FairfieldLife] Re: Uh-oh...

2006-10-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  North Korea has just announced that it has
  successfully completed its first nuclear
  test, and South Korea is confirming it.
  
  The Pentagon is *not* confirming it, but if
  North Korea actually did have a test, we already
  know about it.
  
  If true, it's double-plus-ungood.
 
 Come on- Please don't buy into this propaganda. Kim Jong Il
 needs dictatorial control over his country, but he is scared
 to death of the USA. We have 25,000 nuclear weapons. We 
 continuously proliferate nuclear weapons technology, and we
 are supposedly warning the world because a bankrupt
 dictatorship is claiming they have tested *one*??
 
 Wow. Who is the threat to world stability here?

Um.  Exactly why did you think I said it was not a
good thing, Jim?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  
  Seems to me anthropic reasoning points directly
  to the problem of awareness.
 
 
 **
 
 ...the dark energy is infinitesimal and no one has been able to 
say 
 why.
 
 Except, that is, for followers of a controversial doctrine called 
the 
 anthropic principle. There is no fundamental reason, they say, why 
the 
 dark energy is so weak. It is just that if it were much stronger, 
space 
 would have expanded too rapidly to harbor stars and, ultimately, 
life. 
 The implication is that there is a multitude of possible universes, 
 each with its own physics. Naturally, we are in one where it is 
 possible for us to exist.
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/weekinreview/08johnson.html

Or, as Weinberg put it in the article you linked to
earlier and I quoted in my response:

Any scientists who study nature must live in a part
of the landscape where physical parameters take values
suitable for the appearance of life and its evolution
into scientists.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: a time to be cautious(around 29th)-forwarded from SAMVA

2006-10-09 Thread shukra69

I have seen the value of Choudhry's SA principles by looking at charts and 
events over 
long times.He does have a good predictive track record and thats why so many 
are 
interested in SA.  I would rather not believe in SA but I have been convinced 
by long 
examination. I think he is too dismissive of all the complexities of 
traditional Jyotish 
and SA may not always be valid for persons who are involved in higher spiritual 
practices, but he is the pre-eminent astrologer of Kaliyuga.  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 People yearn for a prophet, and someone with enough fudge-it skill 
 can fool a lot of people some of the time , and some people a lot of 
 the time.
 
 OffWorld
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
 wrote:
 
  As far as Choudhry's jyotish abilities are concerned
  I'd give him a fat zero. I used to be on his yahoo
  news group and it was absurd the way people used to
  fawn all over his post hoc predictive ability. The TB
  are not only in the TMO!
  
  --- shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote:
  
   e: Transit - multiple afflictions 
   
   

   Dear Professor Choudhry,

Thank you very much for the warning. Indeed, the
   overall planetary
energy is unusually weak at this time and the
   afflictions noted at
that time therefore likely to be more harmful than
   otherwise.

Best wishes,

C

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], siha@ wrote:


 Hello dear list members,

 On 29th of October there are going to be multiple
   transit
afflictions:

 1. Mars, Sun and Venus would be conjunct ( Mars
   and Venus) be
combust.

 2. Jupiter and Mercury would be in conjunction
   and in infancy.
Both of
 these planets under the exact affliction of Rahu.

 3. For some time even the Moon would be under the
   influence of
Ketu.

 4. The Sun would be in its sign of debilitation.

 5. Saturn would be in the extreme old age.

 Planetary weakness and conjunctions/aspects
   necessitate care for
almost
 everybody.

 So, take care of yourself and your nears and
   dears around this
date. Better
 do not plan outings around this date.

 Best wishes,

 V K Choudhry
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: BlissTrons -- ( was The Pundits are coming)

2006-10-09 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@   
 
 
 
 
 
   If the current ME-atron flow were amped up by a factor of 20 -- and
   held for a sustained period -- wouldn't one expect more people coming
   to bath in the charged atmosphere? And more pundits? If so, a doubling
   of 500 pundits, 2000 sidhas would yield a 4x ME-atron flow. about 1.6
   times the daily Utopia daily flow. Those sorts of numbers sustained
   over a year or two would be an good test of the ME. A 730 x 100 x
   9000^2 ME-atron stock. = 5913 gME-atrons (gigaME-atrons) aka
   Blisstrons.  No stock of gME-atrons / Blisstrons that size has ever
   been created by the TMO -- or similar by other groups, AFAIK. Utopia
   only created 98 Blisstrons. 
   
   Of course this would lead to construction of many Blisstron 
   generating plants workld-wide -- like power plants. 
   
   And commodity exchanges trading gME-atron / Blisstron options and
   futures.
  
  
  Sounds like a good follow-up article to that Barron's article.
 Perhaps you should clean it up 
  and submit...
 
 The above, and subsequent post, provide a better way to look at and
 analyze the data, IMO. But the effect is still not clearly discernable
 -- that is distinguishable from already present trends, or random
 patterns.
 
 But I plan to update that graphical analysis blog I started. And begin
 to run some statistical regressions using Blisstrons as (on of) the
 independent variable -- that is a cumultive variable, aka stock, not
 a flow.
 
 I may periodically send a summary to Barrons. But, I couldn't
 interest, Hagelin, DOJ, or MUM in my blog reports, so I am not too
 sure Barrons is waiting anxiously.



Barrons might publish it as a tongue-in-cheek followup. Hagelin and company are 
probably scared that you won't find the ME in the data you're examining, so 
they won't 
look at it, period.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ominous 2

2006-10-09 Thread sparaig
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  R.I. pumpkin may be largest ever 
  
  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061008/ap_on_fe_st/pumpkin_weigh_off
 
 
 Stupid photograph...because it isn't next to anything there's no way 
 to relatively measure how big it is...


nearly 1 ton, English measurement. My son won a 400 lb pumpkin once. It was 7+ 
feet in 
circumferance. Jerks from the store dropped it in back of the house Halloween 
day... Thanks 
guys, we're definitely going to be able to carve that thing in 4 hours and 
figure out how to 
move it out front...

Stupid thing just rotted where it was.





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[FairfieldLife] Siddhi-like action of a cell-phone?

2006-10-09 Thread cardemaister

Some demos of navigating with a stand-alone(?)
device:

http://www.twigme.info/video/discovery/twig_videot.html






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[FairfieldLife] Re: BlissTrons -- ( was The Pundits are coming)

2006-10-09 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 10/8/06 8:52 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
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  , Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
  
   but in my experience, the effect of
   a really large group program is dramatic.
  
  And do you think a few hundred or thousand students, if they got a
  taste of that, might get stoked enough to take a year off from school
  (or create some indepndent Studies credit at their schools) to go to
  a free rounding/sidhis course with free room and board?
  
 Anything¹s possible.


That was the NLP-Reform Party theme song, IIRC. 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: The Pundits are coming to the US!

2006-10-09 Thread TurquoiseB
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 Plus if they come in large enough numbers it should at least give us 
 a good barometer of the efficacy -- yay, or nay --- of the theory.

Duh! That's why they've never come. And, IMO, won't.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  
  Seems to me anthropic reasoning points directly
  to the problem of awareness.
 
 
 **
 
 ...the dark energy is infinitesimal and no one has been able to say 
 why.
 
 Except, that is, for followers of a controversial doctrine called the 
 anthropic principle. There is no fundamental reason, they say, why the 
 dark energy is so weak. It is just that if it were much stronger, space 
 would have expanded too rapidly to harbor stars and, ultimately, life. 
 The implication is that there is a multitude of possible universes, 
 each with its own physics. Naturally, we are in one where it is 
 possible for us to exist.
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/weekinreview/08johnson.html


It's not really THAT controversial. Stephen Hawkings subscribes to it, I 
think...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:
  
   
   Seems to me anthropic reasoning points directly
   to the problem of awareness.
  
  
  **
  
  ...the dark energy is infinitesimal and no one has been able to 
say 
  why.
  
  Except, that is, for followers of a controversial doctrine called 
the 
  anthropic principle. There is no fundamental reason, they say, 
why the 
  dark energy is so weak. It is just that if it were much stronger, 
space 
  would have expanded too rapidly to harbor stars and, ultimately, 
life. 
  The implication is that there is a multitude of possible 
universes, 
  each with its own physics. Naturally, we are in one where it is 
  possible for us to exist.
  
  http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/weekinreview/08johnson.html
 
 
 It's not really THAT controversial. Stephen Hawkings subscribes to 
it, I think...

It's not controversial at all, it's completely logical.

The question is whether it's *meaningful*.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread TurquoiseB
   ...the dark energy is infinitesimal and no one has been able to 
   say why.
   
   Except, that is, for followers of a controversial doctrine 
   called the 
   anthropic principle. There is no fundamental reason, they say, 
   why the 
   dark energy is so weak. It is just that if it were much 
   stronger, space 
   would have expanded too rapidly to harbor stars and, ultimately, 
   life. 
   The implication is that there is a multitude of possible 
   universes, 
   each with its own physics. Naturally, we are in one where it is 
   possible for us to exist.
   
   http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/weekinreview/08johnson.html
  
  It's not really THAT controversial. Stephen Hawkings subscribes 
  to it, I think...
 
 It's not controversial at all, it's completely logical.

And thus almost certainly incorrect.  :-)






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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...the dark energy is infinitesimal and no one has been able 
to 
say why.

Except, that is, for followers of a controversial doctrine 
called the 
anthropic principle. There is no fundamental reason, they 
say, 
why the 
dark energy is so weak. It is just that if it were much 
stronger, space 
would have expanded too rapidly to harbor stars and, 
ultimately, 
life. 
The implication is that there is a multitude of possible 
universes, 
each with its own physics. Naturally, we are in one where it 
is 
possible for us to exist.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/weekinreview/08johnson.html
   
   It's not really THAT controversial. Stephen Hawkings subscribes 
   to it, I think...
  
  It's not controversial at all, it's completely logical.
 
 And thus almost certainly incorrect.  :-)

Oh, you don't get it.  Try reading it again.
No, really.  It isn't that difficult to grasp,
even for you, Barry.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread TurquoiseB
   It's not controversial at all, it's completely logical.
  
  And thus almost certainly incorrect.  :-)
 
 Oh, you don't get it.  Try reading it again.
 No, really.  It isn't that difficult to grasp,
 even for you, Barry.

I haven't read it, period. I was just commenting
on those who believe that logical is a trait
they can wishfully project onto the universe.  :-)








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread Peter


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 Oh, you don't get it.  Try reading it again.
 No, really.  It isn't that difficult to grasp,
 even for you, Barry.

Judy, I've got a serious question for you. Why do you
make comments like the above? What purpose does it
serve. We all know that you don't like Barry, but this
near constant sarcasm and snide remarks, why?
Occassionally it would be funny and witty, but this
barrage is what people are talking about how FFL is
becoming like AMT.




 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'United We Stand- Divided We Fall...'

2006-10-09 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ 
wrote: 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor uns_tressor@
  wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel
babajii_99@ wrote:
 Now is the time to pull together;
 No matter what our experiences or resents towards the TMO;
 Now is the time to put this all behind.
 We must 'get behind' this push for 'Spiritual Regeneration'
 We should listen to Bevan, who Maharishi has placed at the
 helm.
   In England, there are many who would say that the movement
   must first deal with the elephant in the sititng room.
   Uns. 
  Is there any official teaching going on in England, or is it 
still band? 
  JohnY 
 er, make that banned not band...

That mistake was a great shock to us all. I had to go
and have a little lie down. 
I understand that there is low key work going on, and 
a google search reveals:
http://www.tm-meditation.co.uk/
I doubt that Guru Dev is up in arms.
Uns.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Oh, you don't get it.  Try reading it again.
  No, really.  It isn't that difficult to grasp,
  even for you, Barry.
 
 Judy, I've got a serious question for you. Why do you
 make comments like the above? What purpose does it
 serve. We all know that you don't like Barry, but this
 near constant sarcasm and snide remarks, why?
 Occassionally it would be funny and witty, but this
 barrage is what people are talking about how FFL is
 becoming like AMT.

She's been in a snit ever since I posted
an original idea. Since she can't, it makes
her intensely jealous.

Ooops. Sorry. That was another one of those
a.m.t. remarks, wasn't it. :-)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Judy, I've got a serious question for you. Why do you
 make comments like the above? What purpose does it
 serve. We all know that you don't like Barry, but this
 near constant sarcasm and snide remarks, why?
 Occassionally it would be funny and witty, but this
 barrage is what people are talking about how FFL is
 becoming like AMT.

BTW, it's not just tone, it's volume too.
Stats for October 1 through 7:

Total posts: 1025

shempmcgurk: 135 / 13.2% of total
sparaig: 122 / 11.9% of total
authfriend: 105 / 10.2% of total

Sparaig has already exceeded his ten-year total
of a.m.t. posts here on FFL. And at her current
posting rate, within the next year Judy will 
have posted more messages to FFL than she did 
on a.m.t. in that same ten years. Something to 
look forward to, eh?








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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

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  Oh, you don't get it.  Try reading it again.
  No, really.  It isn't that difficult to grasp,
  even for you, Barry.
 
 Judy, I've got a serious question for you. Why do you
 make comments like the above? What purpose does it
 serve. We all know that you don't like Barry, but this
 near constant sarcasm and snide remarks, why?
 Occassionally it would be funny and witty, but this
 barrage is what people are talking about how FFL is
 becoming like AMT.

Oh, you don't get it. Try reading it again.
No, really. It isn't that difficult to grasp,
even for you, Peter.

snicker






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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It's not controversial at all, it's completely logical.
   
   And thus almost certainly incorrect.  :-)
  
  Oh, you don't get it.  Try reading it again.
  No, really.  It isn't that difficult to grasp,
  even for you, Barry.
 
 I haven't read it, period. I was just commenting
 on those who believe that logical is a trait
 they can wishfully project onto the universe.  :-)

BZZTTT.

I've got four letters for you, Barry:

DHMO.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Change Your Badluck into Goodluck Forever.

2006-10-09 Thread TurquoiseB
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread Vaj


On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:21 AM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:  --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Oh, you don't get it.  Try reading it again. No, really.  It isn't that difficult to grasp, even for you, Barry.  Judy, I've got a serious question for you. Why do you make comments like the above? What purpose does it serve. We all know that you don't like Barry, but this near constant sarcasm and snide remarks, why? Occassionally it would be funny and witty, but this barrage is what people are talking about how FFL is becoming like AMT.  Oh, you don't get it. Try reading it again. No, really. It isn't that difficult to grasp, even for you, Peter.  snicker I say blue-paper her Dr. Pete and prescribe ECT.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread Vaj


On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:05 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Judy, I've got a serious question for you. Why do you make comments like the above? What purpose does it serve. We all know that you don't like Barry, but this near constant sarcasm and snide remarks, why? Occassionally it would be funny and witty, but this barrage is what people are talking about how FFL is becoming like AMT.  BTW, it's not just tone, it's "volume" too. Stats for October 1 through 7:  Total posts: 1025  shempmcgurk: 135 / 13.2% of total sparaig: 122 / 11.9% of total authfriend: 105 / 10.2% of total  Sparaig has already exceeded his ten-year total of a.m.t. posts here on FFL. And at her current posting rate, within the next year Judy will  have posted more messages to FFL than she did  on a.m.t. in that same ten years. Something to  look forward to, eh? Unless there is a time-out or these toxic posters are banned from FFL, FFL is on it's way out as a list.
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[FairfieldLife] Frustration

2006-10-09 Thread shempmcgurk

Every other week I enter the New Yorker's online Caption 
Contest...that's where they provide you with the cartoon and you 
provide the caption.  They then narrow it down to three finalists 
and then people vote for the winner.

Well, I never make the finalists.  But when I see who made it, I 
always think my caption is much funnier.

Is it me?  Do I think I'm so brilliant and witty only because it's 
wonderful, adorable me? Or are my captions really good?

Do me a favor: go to the following website and check out the three 
finalists then week, then come back here and check out my entry, 
which I am putting several spaces below the following link and tell 
me if you think mine is funnier or not:

http://www.cartoonbank.com/CapContest/CaptionContest.aspx?tab=vote

-
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My caption: Racing stripes are passe.  This year, chocolate mousse 
is in.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip

 Unless there is a time-out or these toxic posters are banned from  
 FFL, FFL is on it's way out as a list.

I agree there is a problem. But, please, how many times do people have 
to predict the imminent demise of FFL.  You either have to put up, or 
shut up, (that is, stay, or leave), or better yet, JUST DON'T READ 
POSTS WHAT YOU VIEW AS A WASTE OF TIME. Yea, we've lost some fun 
folks, but just focus in on what you find useful. (ever heard of this 
concept)

lurk






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ominous 2

2006-10-09 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" shempmcgurk@ wrote:   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@   wrote: R.I. pumpkin may be largest ever   http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061008/ap_on_fe_st/pumpkin_weigh_off  Stupid photograph...because it isn't next to anything there's no way   to "relatively" measure how big it is...   nearly 1 ton, English measurement. My son won a 400 lb pumpkin once. It was 7+ feet in  circumferance. Jerks from the store dropped it in back of the house Halloween day... Thanks  guys, we're definitely going to be able to carve that thing in 4 hours and figure out how to  move it out front...  Stupid thing just rotted where it was.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Discerning a ME (was Pundits are coming)

2006-10-09 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  The crash of 1987 was the only one that was considered 
significant 
  since the crash of 1929the crash of 1929 is how you framed 
and 
  gave credence to your argumentby using false 
statements.and 
  decreasing your credibility on other matters.
 
 Just as an item of cult interest, the odd guy I studied
 with for a while (Rama/Dr. Frederick Lenz) actually 
 claimed credit for causing the 1987 crash. Unlike in
 the TMO when *they* claim credit for such things, most 
 of his students just nodded and said, Yeah right,
 dude...now let's get back to talking about stuff you
 actually know something about.  :-)
 
 But there were a few who bought it, and who undoubtedly
 buy it still. The desire for self importance (I'm a
 member of the group that caused X to happen.) never
 ceases to amaze me. Whether it's the Biblethumpers
 claiming that God destroyed New Orleans to punish the
 city for its wicked ways or that the stock market's 
 going up because a few people are silly enough to bounce 
 around on their butts for several hours a day, it's
 always the same bottom line -- *We* are important,
 because *we* are the cause of all this. Yeah right,
 dudes...now let's get back to talking about stuff you
 actually know something about.


It's the same predisposition that leads people to think they're so 
important that the CIA actually has to spend it's time and energy to 
spy on them.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread shempmcgurk



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[FairfieldLife] Did I really win? Me? You sure? Oh, Gosh, I've never won anything in my life!

2006-10-09 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:   Judy, I've got a serious question for you. Why do you  make comments like the above? What purpose does it  serve. We all know that you don't like Barry, but this  near constant sarcasm and snide remarks, why?  Occassionally it would be funny and witty, but this  barrage is what people are talking about how FFL is  becoming like AMT.  BTW, it's not just tone, it's "volume" too. Stats for October 1 through 7:  Total posts: 1025  shempmcgurk: 135 / 13.2% of total sparaig: 122 / 11.9% of total authfriend: 105 / 10.2% of total  Sparaig has already exceeded his ten-year total of a.m.t. posts here on FFL. And at her current posting rate, within the next year Judy will  have posted more messages to FFL than she did  on a.m.t. in that same ten years. Something to  look forward to, eh?


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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@  wrote:   --- authfriend jstein@ wrote: Oh, you don't get it. Try reading it again.   No, really. It isn't that difficult to grasp,   even for you, Barry.Judy, I've got a serious question for you. Why do you  make comments like the above? What purpose does it  serve. We all know that you don't like Barry, but this  near constant sarcasm and snide remarks, why?  Occassionally it would be funny and witty, but this  barrage is what people are talking about how FFL is  becoming like AMT.  Oh, you don't get it. Try reading it again. No, really. It isn't that difficult to grasp, even for you, Peter.  snicker



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Change Your Badluck into Goodluck Forever.

2006-10-09 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sivakc mooltrikonas@ wrote:
 
Zodiac Pendent /Kavach
Powerfull Planetary Remedy
.This Locket provides the same power  value
   as wearing several Gems.
 
 Can't argue with that.

I booted the guy and removed his post from the archive. There was also
an email advertisement from him in my inbox this morning, which means
he was using the group traffic to harvest email addresses. 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:
  
   
   Seems to me anthropic reasoning points directly
   to the problem of awareness.
  
  
  **
  
  ...the dark energy is infinitesimal and no one has been able to 
say 
  why.
  
  Except, that is, for followers of a controversial doctrine 
called the 
  anthropic principle. There is no fundamental reason, they say, 
why the 
  dark energy is so weak. It is just that if it were much 
stronger, space 
  would have expanded too rapidly to harbor stars and, ultimately, 
life. 
  The implication is that there is a multitude of possible 
universes, 
  each with its own physics. Naturally, we are in one where it is 
  possible for us to exist.
  
  http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/weekinreview/08johnson.html
 
 
 It's not really THAT controversial. Stephen Hawkings subscribes to 
it, I think...

Stephen Hawkings recently denounced the theory that made him famous 
20 years ago. Think that one through. Stephen Hawkings recently 
denounced the theory that made him famous 20 years ago. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: The Pundits are coming to the US!

2006-10-09 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  Plus if they come in large enough numbers it should at least 
give us 
  a good barometer of the efficacy -- yay, or nay --- of the 
theory.



 Duh! That's why they've never come. And, IMO, won't.

You might be right. I am sure I heard something similar to this last 
year, and the year before.
Then finally we will be able to see once and for all if they will 
ever come or not. We will know this in the next month or so, and it 
will be very clear. The statement said 50 a day were recieving 
visas. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Times Article Oct 8 2006

2006-10-09 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
  dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest
george.deforest@ wrote:

 New York Times
 October 8, 2006
   
 Outer Peace   
 By LILY KOPPEL

   

 My coherence-creating groups are going to put out all this
 mischief-mongership in the world,

 mischief-mongership --- great line
   

   My eye lingered on that one too.
   Yeah great line applied too, to just Maharishi and Bevan. .
  
  
  Maharishi's unique use of language always did amuse and impress 
me. 
  I think he is almost unique in that.
 
 Osho/Rajneesh was pretty good at it too, but
 MMY's wordplay can be tremendously *compressed*.
 
  Even such scholars as Vernon 
  Katz (helped MMY with first BG commentary way back when) seem to 
  have the same reaction and love of Maharishi's playful and 
powerful 
  use of language. (Isn't Vernon great?)
 
 I saw a tape of Vernon once and was wildly impressed.
 
 Tangentially, somewhere on the Web there's a sample
 of MMY's own handwriting; if I recall, it's of his
 Beacon Light address.  I've seen lots of MMY tapes
 and read what he's written, as well as transcripts of
 his spoken words, but seeing them in his handwriting
 was a very different experience.  Very hard to 
 describe, but his handwriting seemed like a window into
 his mind, his thought processes--nothing specific, just
 a sense of who he is that hasn't come through to me
 otherwise.
 
 Anybody else experience this?

Someone once told me that I had a chart very similar to Maharishi's. 
But when I saw his handwriting I knew there was some massive 
difference in there (among many other). His writing was quite neat I 
seem to remember.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:05 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@   wrote:Judy, I've got a serious question for you. Why do you  make comments like the above? What purpose does it  serve. We all know that you don't like Barry, but this  near constant sarcasm and snide remarks, why?  Occassionally it would be funny and witty, but this  barrage is what people are talking about how FFL is  becoming like AMT.BTW, it's not just tone, it's "volume" too.  Stats for October 1 through 7:   Total posts: 1025   shempmcgurk: 135 / 13.2% of total  sparaig: 122 / 11.9% of total  authfriend: 105 / 10.2% of total   Sparaig has already exceeded his ten-year total  of a.m.t. posts here on FFL. And at her current  posting rate, within the next year Judy will  have posted more messages to FFL than she did  on a.m.t. in that same ten years. Something to  look forward to, eh?   Unless there is a time-out or these toxic posters are banned from  FFL, FFL is on it's way out as a list.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread Vaj


On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:48 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  snip  Unless there is a time-out or these toxic posters are banned from   FFL, FFL is on it's way out as a list.  I agree there is a problem. But, please, how many times do people have  to predict the imminent demise of FFL.I'm not predicting an "imminent demise" but a continuous loss of quality with posters leaving and obsessive posters filling the majority of space.I already rarely read some of the more obsessive and/or caustic posters except occasionally for entertainment value.And also it's incredibly hypocritical to have TB's touting coherence creating effects, all the while creating incoherence here.  You either have to put up, or  shut up, (that is, stay, or leave), or better yet, JUST DON'T READ  POSTS WHAT YOU VIEW AS A WASTE OF TIME. Yea, we've lost some fun  folks, but just focus in on what you find useful. (ever heard of this  concept)  lurk 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Frustration

2006-10-09 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Every other week I enter the New Yorker's online Caption 
 Contest...that's where they provide you with the cartoon and you 
 provide the caption.  They then narrow it down to three finalists 
 and then people vote for the winner.
 
 Well, I never make the finalists.  But when I see who made it, I 
 always think my caption is much funnier.
 
 Is it me?  Do I think I'm so brilliant and witty only because it's 
 wonderful, adorable me? Or are my captions really good?
 
 Do me a favor: go to the following website and check out the three 
 finalists then week, then come back here and check out my entry, 
 which I am putting several spaces below the following link and tell 
 me if you think mine is funnier or not:
 
 http://www.cartoonbank.com/CapContest/CaptionContest.aspx?tab=vote
 
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 My caption: Racing stripes are passe.  This year, chocolate mousse 
 is in.

I found all the captions, yours and the finalists, equally unfunny.






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[FairfieldLife] How North Korea got its nukes

2006-10-09 Thread shempmcgurk
The Left's Diplomacy Pays Off  
By Ben Johnson
FrontPageMagazine.com | October 9, 2006

SCORE ONE FOR BILL CLINTON and Jimmy Carter. 

As of this writing in the early morning hours of October 9, 
President Bush is expected to announce that North Korea has 
conducted an underground nuclear test. Unlike the abortive launch in 
July, last night's explosion netted the Stalinist gulag valuable 
information and packed a lethal impact. At 9:35 p.m. EST, the U.S. 
Geological Survey measured a 4.2 magnitude disturbance approximately 
240 miles northeast of Pyongyang. 

 

The Left quickly attempted the shopworn tactic of pinning the blame 
on the Bush administration's rhetoric or unwillingness to bribe Kim 
Jong-il. Early this morning, Joseph Cirincione of the George Soros-
funded Center for American Progress told CNN, They had numerous 
opportunities to negotiate a deal…They did not. He concluded, I 
think the North Koreans came to that conclusion: that there is no 
deal to be had with this administration, and they decided they had 
nothing to lose. 

 

By way of commentary, the popular left-wing blog The Daily Kos 
quoted Selig S. Harrison from the international edition of Newsweek: 

 

North Korea's missile tests in July and its threat last week to 
conduct a nuclear test explosion at an unspecified date in the 
future were directly provoked by the U.S. sanctions. In North 
Korean eyes, pressure must be met with pressure to maintain national 
honor and, hopefully, to jump-start new bilateral negotiations with 
Washington that could ease the financial squeeze. When I warned 
against a nuclear test, saying that it would only strengthen 
opponents of negotiations in Washington, several top officials 
replied that soft tactics had not worked and they had nothing to 
lose.

 

The Kos feels no need to explain which U.S. provocation justified 
the birth of the North Korean nuclear program in 1994 – during Bill 
Clinton's presidency – nor that the DPRK's `soft' tactics entailed 
firing a missile over the Japanese mainland and threatening to 
strike the United States. 

 

Worse yet, Kim Jong-il's methods have paid off handsomely. Each act 
of brinksmanship has brought cash, supplies, oil, nuclear reactors, 
or additional concessions from the West. Within two months of the 
Taepo Dong missile scraping across Nippon in August 1998, President 
Clinton sent North Korea a multi-million dollar aid package and 
reopened bilateral negotiations. 

 

The Dear Leader's nuclear test could not have occurred without Bill 
Clinton's decade of dalliance. Clinton could have obliterated the 
Yongbyong reactor with one strike when he first learned of North 
Korea's covert nuclear program in 1994. Instead, he allowed Jimmy 
Carter's private foreign policy to preempt him. Upon completing 
the Agreed Framework in 1994, Clinton stated, This agreement will 
help achieve a vital and long-standing American objective: an end to 
the threat of nuclear proliferation on the Korean peninsula. We now 
know the $4.6 billion bribe gave the Communists the two nuclear 
reactors they used to create their current arsenal. 

 

If the Left's policies allowed Stalinists to arm, they left 
Americans defenseless. The Democratic Party has defined its defense 
policy in opposition to the concept of defense. For more than two 
decades, the Democratic Party has worked in concert to block any 
missile defense program and castigated those who tried to shield the 
United States from a doomsday device. When President Reagan 
announced the Strategic Defense Initiative in 1983, Ted Kennedy 
promptly denounced it as Star Wars. The New York Times called 
it a projection of fantasy into policy, and other outlets fretted 
the abandonment of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) would 
encourage the United States to pre-emptively attack the Soviet 
Union. Bill Clinton pledged his support for a missile shield in 
theory during his 1996 re-election campaign, then withheld critical 
funds and scheduled deployments in his second term. When George W. 
Bush pulled out of the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty – negotiated in 
the 1970's with a nation that no longer exists – the Left branded 
him a unilateralist. During the 2004 campaign, John Kerry adviser 
Rand Beers said North Korea was able to acquire a nuclear weapon, 
not because naïve leftists insisted on bribing its playboy despot, 
but because Bush and his closest advisers were preoccupied with 
missile defense. Twenty-three years after President Reagan's vision 
of rendering these nuclear weapons impotent and obsolete, the 
United States remains vulnerable to madmen like Kim Jong-il…or 
whoever purchases his wares. Ironically, the Left's got it wrong on 
SDI twice: the mere idea of missile defense caused the Soviet Union 
to spend itself into bankruptcy, and the fact that it remains merely 
an idea emboldens tinhorn dictators to engage in nuclear blackmail. 

 

The Left has specialized in sidelining those who would conduct a 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Discerning a ME (was Pundits are coming)

2006-10-09 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  The crash of 1987 was the only one that was considered 
significant 
  since the crash of 1929the crash of 1929 is how you framed 
and 
  gave credence to your argumentby using false 
statements.and 
  decreasing your credibility on other matters.
 
 Just as an item of cult interest, the odd guy I studied
 with for a while (Rama/Dr. Frederick Lenz) actually 
 claimed credit for causing the 1987 crash. Unlike in
 the TMO when *they* claim credit for such things, most 
 of his students just nodded and said, Yeah right,
 dude...now let's get back to talking about stuff you
 actually know something about.  :-)
 
 But there were a few who bought it, and who undoubtedly
 buy it still. The desire for self importance (I'm a
 member of the group that caused X to happen.) never
 ceases to amaze me. Whether it's the Biblethumpers
 claiming that God destroyed New Orleans to punish the
 city for its wicked ways or that the stock market's 
 going up because a few people are silly enough to bounce 
 around on their butts for several hours a day, it's
 always the same bottom line -- *We* are important,
 because *we* are the cause of all this. Yeah right,
 dudes...now let's get back to talking about stuff you
 actually know something about.

I have never had much faith in the theory of tying in stock markets 
to group ME effects. But you seem to have gottn very agressive 
towards me because I pointed out that the crash of 1987 which was 
called the worst crash since 29, was not tied to any big HoE course 
as you had claimed the big 7000 courses had caused the worst crash 
since 29. Now you are all mad and trying to tie me into some group 
mass delusion, when in fact I don't believe the stock market stuff.

Mow lets back to something you actually know something about (your 
words). You followed a guy who claimed he caused the markets to 
crash, and you are tying ME effects directly to YF group size. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Times Article Oct 8 2006

2006-10-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
snip
  Tangentially, somewhere on the Web there's a sample
  of MMY's own handwriting; if I recall, it's of his
  Beacon Light address.  I've seen lots of MMY tapes
  and read what he's written, as well as transcripts of
  his spoken words, but seeing them in his handwriting
  was a very different experience.  Very hard to 
  describe, but his handwriting seemed like a window into
  his mind, his thought processes--nothing specific, just
  a sense of who he is that hasn't come through to me
  otherwise.
  
  Anybody else experience this?
 
 Someone once told me that I had a chart very similar to 
 Maharishi's. But when I saw his handwriting I knew there
 was some massive difference in there (among many other).
 His writing was quite neat I seem to remember.

Neat, but not in the old-school Spencerian sense.

I wish to heck I could remember where on the Web
I saw it.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:48 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
 
  snip
 
 
  Unless there is a time-out or these toxic posters are banned 
from
  FFL, FFL is on it's way out as a list.
 
 
  I agree there is a problem. But, please, how many times do 
people have
  to predict the imminent demise of FFL.
 
 I'm not predicting an imminent demise but a continuous loss of  
 quality with posters leaving and obsessive posters filling the  
 majority of space.

You seem to have curtailed that practice , so the board is not so 
bad these days.   
Except when Turquoise starts hate speech against Judy. Which may be 
the reason she is often critical of him. She has good resaon to be, 
because many times I saw him spit hate speech at her, but I never 
saw her do the same. Your attack on Judy is more a hatred of anyone 
who does not agree with you.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Frustration

2006-10-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  
  Every other week I enter the New Yorker's online Caption 
  Contest...that's where they provide you with the cartoon and you 
  provide the caption.  They then narrow it down to three finalists 
  and then people vote for the winner.
  
  Well, I never make the finalists.  But when I see who made it, I 
  always think my caption is much funnier.
  
  Is it me?  Do I think I'm so brilliant and witty only because 
it's 
  wonderful, adorable me? Or are my captions really good?
  
  Do me a favor: go to the following website and check out the 
three 
  finalists then week, then come back here and check out my entry, 
  which I am putting several spaces below the following link and 
tell 
  me if you think mine is funnier or not:
  
  http://www.cartoonbank.com/CapContest/CaptionContest.aspx?tab=vote
  
  My caption: Racing stripes are passe.  This year, chocolate 
mousse 
  is in.
 
 I found all the captions, yours and the finalists, equally unfunny.

It strikes me that the whole idea of doing a 
cartoon drawing without a caption and then
having others come up with captions for it
is so backward it may make a genuinely funny
result unlikely.

Cartoonists don't *start* with just the cartoon
drawing in mind and then dream up a caption for
it, do they?  Don't they usually have some idea
of what the caption is going to be?

I wonder if the drawings the New Yorker uses
for these contests are recycled from cartoons
that originally did have captions by the
cartoonists and were just never used in the
magazine.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Frustration

2006-10-09 Thread Peter
Shemp, I've entered several times too and I thought I
was funnier than the winner also. But perhaps I'm just
outstanding in my own fieldalong with you!

--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Every other week I enter the New Yorker's online
 Caption 
 Contest...that's where they provide you with the
 cartoon and you 
 provide the caption.  They then narrow it down to
 three finalists 
 and then people vote for the winner.
 
 Well, I never make the finalists.  But when I see
 who made it, I 
 always think my caption is much funnier.
 
 Is it me?  Do I think I'm so brilliant and witty
 only because it's 
 wonderful, adorable me? Or are my captions really
 good?
 
 Do me a favor: go to the following website and check
 out the three 
 finalists then week, then come back here and check
 out my entry, 
 which I am putting several spaces below the
 following link and tell 
 me if you think mine is funnier or not:
 

http://www.cartoonbank.com/CapContest/CaptionContest.aspx?tab=vote
 
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 My caption: Racing stripes are passe.  This year,
 chocolate mousse 
 is in.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Bush's mis-adventure in Iraq pays off

2006-10-09 Thread off_world_beings
Bush's mis-adventure in Iraq pays off

Bush's childish arrogance against Saddam (since lond before 9/11) has 
cost the US many important strategic battles. One of the biggest is: 
The country that WAS developing WMD's, has seen the US weakened by the 
Bush Historic Blunder in Iraq, and has developed WMD's (which it can 
point at US soil).

Well done Bush you foreign policy dunderhead.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Oct 9, 2006, at 6:26 AM, Peter wrote:


 Oh, you don't get it.  Try reading it again.
 No, really.  It isn't that difficult to grasp,
 even for you, Barry.

 Judy, I've got a serious question for you. Why do you
 make comments like the above? What purpose does it
 serve.

Quite obviously, Dr. Pete, it's all those cosmic ripples of bliss 
bubbling up, just like the title says.  I'm amazed you can't see that. 
:)

Sal



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[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Times Article Oct 8 2006

2006-10-09 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:
 snip
   Tangentially, somewhere on the Web there's a sample
   of MMY's own handwriting; if I recall, it's of his
   Beacon Light address.  I've seen lots of MMY tapes
   and read what he's written, as well as transcripts of
   his spoken words, but seeing them in his handwriting
   was a very different experience.  Very hard to 
   describe, but his handwriting seemed like a window into
   his mind, his thought processes--nothing specific, just
   a sense of who he is that hasn't come through to me
   otherwise.
   
   Anybody else experience this?
  
  Someone once told me that I had a chart very similar to 
  Maharishi's. But when I saw his handwriting I knew there
  was some massive difference in there (among many other).
  His writing was quite neat I seem to remember.
 
 Neat, but not in the old-school Spencerian sense.
 
 I wish to heck I could remember where on the Web
 I saw it.

If you find it let me know.

OffWorld




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[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Times Article Oct 8 2006

2006-10-09 Thread cardemaister

  
  I wish to heck I could remember where on the Web
  I saw it.
 
 If you find it let me know.
 
 OffWorld


Perhaps on some of the anti-TM -websites??






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[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Times Article Oct 8 2006

2006-10-09 Thread cardemaister

 
 If you find it let me know.
 
 OffWorld


How about this:

http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm





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[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Times Article Oct 8 2006

2006-10-09 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  
  If you find it let me know.
  
  OffWorld
 
 
 How about this:
 
 http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm

I have his inscription (english) and sanskrit signiture in my gita. 
I could try to scan if this and other samples are not sufficient.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Discerning a ME (was Pundits are coming)

2006-10-09 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
  
   The crash of 1987 was the only one that was considered 
 significant 
   since the crash of 1929the crash of 1929 is how you framed 
 and 
   gave credence to your argumentby using false 
 statements.and 
   decreasing your credibility on other matters.
  
  Just as an item of cult interest, the odd guy I studied
  with for a while (Rama/Dr. Frederick Lenz) actually 
  claimed credit for causing the 1987 crash. Unlike in
  the TMO when *they* claim credit for such things, most 
  of his students just nodded and said, Yeah right,
  dude...now let's get back to talking about stuff you
  actually know something about.  :-)
  
  But there were a few who bought it, and who undoubtedly
  buy it still. The desire for self importance (I'm a
  member of the group that caused X to happen.) never
  ceases to amaze me. Whether it's the Biblethumpers
  claiming that God destroyed New Orleans to punish the
  city for its wicked ways or that the stock market's 
  going up because a few people are silly enough to bounce 
  around on their butts for several hours a day, it's
  always the same bottom line -- *We* are important,
  because *we* are the cause of all this. Yeah right,
  dudes...now let's get back to talking about stuff you
  actually know something about.
 
 I have never had much faith in the theory of tying in stock markets 
 to group ME effects. But you seem to have gottn very agressive 
 towards me because I pointed out that the crash of 1987 which was 
 called the worst crash since 29, was not tied to any big HoE course 
 as you had claimed the big 7000 courses had caused the worst crash 
 since 29. Now you are all mad and trying to tie me into some group 
 mass delusion, when in fact I don't believe the stock market stuff.
 
 Mow lets back to something you actually know something about (your 
 words). You followed a guy who claimed he caused the markets to 
 crash, and you are tying ME effects directly to YF group size. 
 
 OffWorld

Turq, do you want to try to handle this one? Or should I? Where to
begin in unraveling Off's misreadings and misunderstanding?

(Makes one wonder about TM. Sort of like the old drug ad: Here is
your brain. Here is your brain on TM






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[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Times Article Oct 8 2006

2006-10-09 Thread curtisdeltablues
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   I wish to heck I could remember where on the Web
   I saw it.
  
  If you find it let me know.
  
  OffWorld
 
 
 Perhaps on some of the anti-TM -websites??


This really made me laugh!   But so true, so true.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Frustration

2006-10-09 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm surprised you didn't win form the New Yorker crowd just for using
 the word Passe!   I liked yours better than two of the others.  My
 favorite was Would you believe a kid came up with this?
 
 I think you are just supposed to enter these captions and not pay
 attention to the results, just an innocent thing.  Just by entering
 them you are cultivating the ability to be funny 24/7.  
 

But you need to be careful. If your bubbles of bubbling bliss are
floating downwards, then you are only funny to yourself. Others just
grimmace at your jokes. 

However, there is a secret Vedic Punchline Technology that reverses
the bubble flow. The only downside are the head twiches. But they only
last several months. 









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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- off_world_beings wrote:

 Stephen Hawkings recently 
 denounced the theory that made him famous 20 years ago. 

What theory was that? 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip

 I'm not predicting an imminent demise but a continuous loss of  
 quality with posters leaving and obsessive posters filling the  
 majority of space.

Yea, it's true.  I feel your pain

lurk
 
 








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Discerning a ME (was Pundits are coming)

2006-10-09 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The desire for self importance (I'm a
 member of the group that caused X to happen.) never
 ceases to amaze me. Whether it's the Biblethumpers
 claiming that God destroyed New Orleans to punish the
 city for its wicked ways or that the stock market's 
 going up because a few people are silly enough to bounce 
 around on their butts for several hours a day, it's
 always the same bottom line -- *We* are important,
 because *we* are the cause of all this. Yeah right,
 dudes...now let's get back to talking about stuff you
 actually know something about.

What is missing in ME theory, aside from clear tests/results :) ), is
an explanation of the mechanics of how ME might cause the stock
market to rise. Its simplistic to think there is a direct effect (if
any effect is actually there.)

In the following blurb, I have tried to map out potential mechanics
for both short- and longer term effects -- if the ME actually yields
an influence on financial markets. Short-run, increased national
cohernece could increase optimism -- which could yield market rises.
Longer-run, increased national cohernece could increase creativity,
reduce friction in research networks/ collaboration, etc. New
breakthroughs in a variety of fields will tend to increase
productivity, which in turn will positivly effect earnings. Ultimately
its risk adjsuted earnings that drive stock prices. 

IF the TMO were serious about ME, in an academic and research sense --
and not just a PR blitz of nice images -- it would investigate such
linkages, and attempt to discern effects and their lags, at each of
the many links in this value-chain -- from bubbling bliss to
market upturns. 

IMO, its less silly for YF to claim  increased coherence which leads
to a vast chain of linked effects -- which can manifest in things such
a long-run stock market upturns.


--Blurb from the ME/Financial Markets blog --
Recent coherence project announcements stress the immediate impact of
the project on financial markets. Presumably the theory is that
coherence improves collective optimism, and optimism moves markets
upwards. Thats true in the short-run, but optimism is not a change in
the fundamental core of the economy, in the nuts and bolts, bits and
photons if you will, of the economy. Its a perception, a change in
interpretation about the fundamental core of the economy. Perception,
and the core itself, are two quite distinct things.

As pointed out in a prior post, the substantive effects* of the three
prior large ME projects took some time to mature and manifest. The
immediate short-run effects indeed were negative.

This lagged longer term effect is consistent with the mechanisms that
drive the market: earnings (and their expectations). And earnings
expectations -- and the fundamental core of the economy -- are driven
by productivity gains aka efficiency. Technological innovations and
the amount of capital investment being prime drivers of
productivityy-- along with related reductions in social, cultural,
educational and political barriers, and constraints in the economy.
Essentially when more is produced with less via long long structural
changes in the economy and society -- the financial markets respond
positively.

For example, Companies can increase productivity in a variety of
ways. The most obvious methods involve automation and computerization
which minimize the tasks that must be performed by employees.
Recently, less obvious techniques are being employed that involve
ergonomic design and worker comfort. A comfortable employee, the
theory maintains, can produce more than a counterpart who struggles
through the day. ...

Increases in productivity also can influence society more broadly, by
improving living standards, and creating income. They are central to
the process generating economic growth and capital accumulation.
Many economists see the economic expansion of the later 1990s in the
United States as being allowed by the massive increase in worker
productivity that occurred during that period. The growth in aggregate
supply allowed increases in aggregate demand and decreases in
unemployment at the same time that inflation remained stable. Others
emphasize drastic changes in patterns of social behaviour resulting
from new communication technologies and changed male-female
relationships.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Productivity_%28economics%29

Much of the difference in countries' living standards reflects
differences in their productivity...
... they conceded that during the previous five years [1995-2000] the
United States enjoyed the fastest productivity growth in any such
period since the second world war. Over the whole period from 1995,
labour productivity growth averaged almost 3% a year, twice the
average rate over the previous two decades.
http://www.economist.com/research/Economics/alphabetic.cfm?TERM=POPULATION

This fastest pace of productivity gains was during 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Discerning a ME (was Pundits are coming)

2006-10-09 Thread TurquoiseB
  I have never had much faith in the theory of tying in stock 
  markets 
  to group ME effects. But you seem to have gottn very agressive 
  towards me because I pointed out that the crash of 1987 which was 
  called the worst crash since 29, was not tied to any big HoE 
  course 
  as you had claimed the big 7000 courses had caused the worst crash 
  since 29. Now you are all mad and trying to tie me into some group 
  mass delusion, when in fact I don't believe the stock market 
  stuff.
  
  Mow lets back to something you actually know something about (your 
  words). You followed a guy who claimed he caused the markets to 
  crash, and you are tying ME effects directly to YF group size. 

 Turq, do you want to try to handle this one? Or should I? Where to
 begin in unraveling Off's misreadings and misunderstanding?
 
 (Makes one wonder about TM. Sort of like the old drug ad: Here is
 your brain. Here is your brain on TM

I don't take Off World seriously, and I certainly
wasn't talking to him when I replied earlier, so 
I have little to say. 

My anecdote about Rama causing the crash was 
just a riff on similar subject matter here re
the buttbouncing courses. Me, I don't think that
that he had the ability to crash the stock market,
and I don't believe that the buttbouncers have any 
ability to affect world events either. I think that
one gets a subjective buzz from being in a room 
where a number of people are meditating together, 
but that the buzz is there from practicing *any* 
technique whatsoever, and has nothing whatsoever
to do with TM per se or the TM-siddhis per se.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Times Article Oct 8 2006

2006-10-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  If you find it let me know.
  
  OffWorld
 
 How about this:
 
 http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm

What I saw was longer, as I recall, but this gives
you an idea.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Oct 9, 2006, at 6:26 AM, Peter wrote:
 
 
  Oh, you don't get it.  Try reading it again.
  No, really.  It isn't that difficult to grasp,
  even for you, Barry.
 
  Judy, I've got a serious question for you. Why do you
  make comments like the above? What purpose does it
  serve.
 
 Quite obviously, Dr. Pete, it's all those cosmic ripples of bliss 
 bubbling up, just like the title says.  I'm amazed you can't see 
that. 
 :)

Dr. Pete doesn't see a lot of things, actually.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Times Article Oct 8 2006

2006-10-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
 
I wish to heck I could remember where on the Web
I saw it.
   
   If you find it let me know.
   
   OffWorld
  
  Perhaps on some of the anti-TM -websites??
 
 This really made me laugh!   But so true, so true.\

Why would anti-TM Web sites have samples of MMY's
handwriting??






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[FairfieldLife] CIA in TMO?

2006-10-09 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 
 It's the same predisposition that leads people to think they're so 
 important that the CIA actually has to spend it's time and energy to 
 spy on them.


IMO, many have not looked at all sides of the CIA thing -- and thus
draw limited conclusions. My experience in teaching for a year in a
foreign country was:

i) many locals thought we may be CIA -- perhaps jokingly,
speculatively or seriously -- but in talking to good friends I made
there -- in private, they would confide that we being CIA was a
specualtive rift in the air -- the buzz in many circles.

 ii) I found out years later (from one of the guys who married a
local girl, and had long-term strong business and social ties in the
upper levels of society in that country) that the local government, a
dictatorship -- so no pesky human rights issues to get in the way --
did keep detailed files on each of us (foreign TM teachers). Right
down to quite personal , um dating issues. 

It did occur to me over the years -- and recently when watching that
excellent Michael Caine film, The Quiet American -- that the groups
of TMO Americans and Europeans in the 70's who flooded into foreign
countries world wide, WOULD be an excellent conduit for the CIA. Or
other foreign intelligence agencies. We had great cover to travel
anywhere in the country, meeting with locals at all levels of society
-- academic, religous, military, regional and national govt
administration, entertainers, businessmen, etc, flying off to Europe
at times, lots of international phone calls etc. 

While I have no direct knowledge that such agencies did join our ranks
(in Associate 108 programs -- and similar), I find it quite plausible
that some did. 

Or, the CIA might have gotten wind that some other foreign agencies
were using the TMO A108 program, so they sent some agents to
infiltrate to see what the other agnecies might be up to. 

Or, knowing that the A108's were subject to detailed scrutiny by local
gov'ts, they may have seen this as an opportunity to recruit locals
embedded in the local gov'ts intelligence networks.

So, for a number of reasons, I find it plausible that the CIA or other
intelligence agencies were inside the TMO at times. This has nothing
to do with delusions of self-importance. To simply laugh this off as
delusions of self-importance -- is simplistic and missing quite a bit
of the picture.






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[FairfieldLife] AP on Keith Olbermann

2006-10-09 Thread authfriend
Olbermann news commentaries target Bush
By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer
Sun Oct 8, 5:09 PM ET

Keith Olbermann's tipping point came on a tarmac in Los Angeles six 
weeks ago. While waiting for his plane to take off he read an account 
of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's speech before the American 
Legion equating Iraq War opponents to pre-World War II appeasers.

The next night, on Aug. 30, Olbermann ended his MSNBC Countdown 
show with a blistering retort, questioning both the interpretation of 
history and Rumsfeld's very understanding of what it means to be an 
American.

It was the first of now five extraordinarily harsh anti-Bush 
commentaries that have made Olbermann the latest media point-person 
in the nation's political divide.

As a critic of the administration, I will be damned if you can get 
away with calling me the equivalent of a Nazi appeaser, Olbermann 
told The Associated Press. No one has the right to say that about 
any free-speaking American in this country.

Since that first commentary, Olbermann's nightly audience has 
increased 69 percent, according to Nielsen Media Research. This past 
Monday 834,000 people tuned in, virtually double his season average 
and more than CNN competitors Paula Zahn and Nancy Grace. Cable 
kingpin and Olbermann nemesis Bill O'Reilly (two million viewers that 
night) stands in his way.

Olbermann stood before Ground Zero on Sept. 11 and said Bush's 
conduct before the Iraq war was an impeachable offense. Not once, in 
now five years, has this president ever offered to assume 
responsibility for the failures that led to this empty space and to 
this, the current and curdled version of our beloved country, he 
said.

His latest verbal attack, this past Thursday, criticized the 
president's campaign attacks on Democrats.

Why have you chosen to go down in history as the president who made 
things up? he asked.

Olbermann has become a hero to Bush opponents, who distribute video 
files and transcripts of his commentaries. One poster on the Daily 
Kos who's been trying to spread his own four-year boycott of cable 
news wondered: Is it time to modify the boycott to allow for Keith's 
show `Countdown' — and only his show?

On the right, he's known as Krazy Keith and OlbyLoon, and the 
Olbermannwatch.com Web site is devoted to picking apart his words.

Look in the mirror, Keith, an Olbermannwatch.com blogger 
wrote. You have become that which you claim to despise — a 
demagogue.

Olbermann has never been a Bush fan. He's gone on crusades before, 
pounding on alleged voting irregularities in Ohio in 2004 when the 
story went dry elsewhere. He's also waged war against O'Reilly. None 
of these match his most recent campaign for ferocity.

Liberal activist Jeff Cohen is thrilled for Olbermann's success, but 
admits that it's bittersweet.

Cohen was a producer for Phil Donahue's failed talk show. Less than 
four years ago Donahue's show imploded primarily because MSNBC and 
its corporate owners were afraid to have a show seen as liberal or 
anti-Bush at a time those opinions were less popular, he said.

In his new book Cable News Confidential: My Misadventures in 
Corporate Media, Cohen alleges that NBC News forced Donahue to book 
more conservatives than liberals and eventually wanted one of the 
nation's best-known liberal media figures to imitate O'Reilly.

Same time as Olbermann, same channel.

That Olbermann has been permitted to do what he's doing is evidence 
that the political zeitgeist has changed dramatically in four years, 
and especially (at) MSNBC, Cohen said.

While it's true a different political atmosphere has helped 
Olbermann, NBC News senior vice president Phil Griffin disputed 
Cohen's interpretation that politics doomed Donahue. While MSNBC 
could be faulted for giving up on Donahue too fast, the show never 
caught its rhythm and was extremely expensive, he said. 

People try to ascribe motives to us, that somehow we're trying to 
keep liberals off the air and it's all about ideology, Griffin 
said. If you get ratings, there's no issue. 

Even before this fall, Olbermann's ratings had been on a slow rise as 
viewers connected with his entertaining way of delivering the news, 
Griffin said. 

Early in his second tenure at MSNBC, Olbermann said he wanted to do a 
segment on whether some of the more heroic elements of former POW 
Jessica Lynch's rescue were exaggerated. He was told by NBC News 
executives that he had to balance it with a commentary by 
conservative radio host Michael Savage, and he refused. He was 
prepared to walk, he said, but it never came to that. 

Olbermann said he hasn't spoken to NBC Chairman Bob Wright or anyone 
at corporate owner General Electric Co. about his commentaries. No 
one's asked him to tone things down; in fact, I've had to calm them 
down a little bit, he said. 

Such is the almighty power of the Nielsen meter. 

As dangerous as it can sometimes be for news, it is also our great 
protector, 

[FairfieldLife] Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-10-09 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs





Last night a friend told me that a wealthy couple (not either pair of Kaplans) living in or near the Spiritual Capital in N. Carolina donated $2 or 3 Million and later began to wonder what might have happened to it, so they went to India to investigate. After 6 months over there, they came back convinced that the Indian TMO was a mafia-like organization and that meddling with it could cost you your life. They have since distanced themselves from the movement.


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[FairfieldLife] Man-on-the-street Amma

2006-10-09 Thread TurquoiseB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uh-oh...

2006-10-09 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 10/8/06 11:24:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
North 
  Korea has just announced that it has successfully completed its first 
  nuclear test, and South Korea is confirming it.  The 
  Pentagon is *not* confirming it, but if North Korea actually did have 
  a test, we already know about it.  If true, it's 
  double-plus-ungood.Come on- Please don't buy into this 
  propaganda. Kim Jong Il needs dictatorial control over his country, but he 
  is scared to death of the USA. We have 25,000 nuclear weapons. We 
  continuously proliferate nuclear weapons technology, and we are supposedly 
  warning the world because a bankrupt dictatorship is claiming they have 
  tested *one*??Wow. Who is the threat to world stability 
  here?

I see North Korea and Iran becoming even more friendly these days. They 
both have something the other wants, despirately. Iran wants nukes and NK wants 
oil and food. And neither can be trusted to work with the world community to 
help supply those needs, safely.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Discerning a ME (was Pundits are coming)

2006-10-09 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
no_reply@
   wrote:
   
The crash of 1987 was the only one that was considered 
  significant 
since the crash of 1929the crash of 1929 is how you 
framed 
  and 
gave credence to your argumentby using false 
  statements.and 
decreasing your credibility on other matters.
   
   Just as an item of cult interest, the odd guy I studied
   with for a while (Rama/Dr. Frederick Lenz) actually 
   claimed credit for causing the 1987 crash. Unlike in
   the TMO when *they* claim credit for such things, most 
   of his students just nodded and said, Yeah right,
   dude...now let's get back to talking about stuff you
   actually know something about.  :-)
   
   But there were a few who bought it, and who undoubtedly
   buy it still. The desire for self importance (I'm a
   member of the group that caused X to happen.) never
   ceases to amaze me. Whether it's the Biblethumpers
   claiming that God destroyed New Orleans to punish the
   city for its wicked ways or that the stock market's 
   going up because a few people are silly enough to bounce 
   around on their butts for several hours a day, it's
   always the same bottom line -- *We* are important,
   because *we* are the cause of all this. Yeah right,
   dudes...now let's get back to talking about stuff you
   actually know something about.
  
  I have never had much faith in the theory of tying in stock 
markets 
  to group ME effects. But you seem to have gottn very agressive 
  towards me because I pointed out that the crash of 1987 which 
was 
  called the worst crash since 29, was not tied to any big HoE 
course 
  as you had claimed the big 7000 courses had caused the worst 
crash 
  since 29. Now you are all mad and trying to tie me into some 
group 
  mass delusion, when in fact I don't believe the stock market 
stuff.
  
  Mow lets back to something you actually know something about 
(your 
  words). You followed a guy who claimed he caused the markets to 
  crash, and you are tying ME effects directly to YF group size. 
  
  OffWorld
 
 Turq, do you want to try to handle this one? Or should I? Where to
 begin in unraveling Off's misreadings and misunderstanding?

Avoidance.

 (Makes one wonder about TM. Sort of like the old drug ad: Here is
 your brain. Here is your brain on TM

Ironically, your last statement may have some evidence for it, if 
one looks at your quote:  
The utopia course (I think it was that one) coincided with the 
largest stock market crash since 29. 
(Post #117373)  
...and now you can't admit you were wrong (which is no big deal, 
because i actually like your attempt to watch the stock markets 
during this course, and I hope you will continue )  ...so you are 
appealing desperately for rational help from he that has no skill in 
that area. Very strange.

OffWorld






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Discerning a ME (was Pundits are coming)

2006-10-09 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 My anecdote about Rama causing the crash was 
 just a riff on similar subject matter here re
 the buttbouncing courses. Me, I don't think that
 that he had the ability to crash the stock market,
 and I don't believe that the buttbouncers have any 
 ability to affect world events either. I think that
 one gets a subjective buzz from being in a room 
 where a number of people are meditating together, 
 but that the buzz is there from practicing *any* 
 technique whatsoever, and has nothing whatsoever
 to do with TM per se or the TM-siddhis per se.


Oh wait, you are the one that said that bigoted nonsense , not new-
morning.   
Sorry new-morning, I knew you were way more intelligent than the 
above would suggest.  
So, TurquoiseI have never had much faith in the theory of tying 
in stock markets to group ME effects, but you are somewhat 
predicatably trying to paint everything in black  white instead 
seeing shades of grey by trying to tie me into some group
mass delusion, when in fact I don't believe the stock market stuff.

Let me remind youyou are...and always will be way more TMO 
than I ever have been or will aver be.

Now lets back to something you actually know something about (your
words). You followed a guy who claimed he caused the markets to
crash in 1987...ROFL !

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[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Times Article Oct 8 2006

2006-10-09 Thread curtisdeltablues
Cuz they often preserve MMY's early stuff better than the movement.


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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
  
 I wish to heck I could remember where on the Web
 I saw it.

If you find it let me know.

OffWorld
   
   Perhaps on some of the anti-TM -websites??
  
  This really made me laugh!   But so true, so true.\
 
 Why would anti-TM Web sites have samples of MMY's
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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 --- off_world_beings wrote:
 
  Stephen Hawkings recently 
  denounced the theory that made him famous 20 years ago. 
 
 What theory was that?

The theory that nothing can eminate from the event horizon of a black 
hole.
http://tinyurl.com/eaxzl

OffWorld






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Uh-oh...

2006-10-09 Thread jim_flanegin
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:
  
   North Korea has just announced that it has
   successfully completed its first nuclear
   test, and South Korea is confirming it.
   
   The Pentagon is *not* confirming it, but if
   North Korea actually did have a test, we already
   know about it.
   
   If true, it's double-plus-ungood.
  
  Come on- Please don't buy into this propaganda. Kim Jong Il
  needs dictatorial control over his country, but he is scared
  to death of the USA. We have 25,000 nuclear weapons. We 
  continuously proliferate nuclear weapons technology, and we
  are supposedly warning the world because a bankrupt
  dictatorship is claiming they have tested *one*??
  
  Wow. Who is the threat to world stability here?
 
 Um.  Exactly why did you think I said it was not a
 good thing, Jim?

Hey, if you agree with my assessment, I agree with yours! ;-)





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[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Times Article Oct 8 2006

2006-10-09 Thread TurquoiseB
Perhaps on some of the anti-TM -websites??
   
   This really made me laugh!   But so true, so true.\
  
  Why would anti-TM Web sites have samples of MMY's
  handwriting??

 Cuz they often preserve MMY's early stuff better than the movement.

So true. Do you remember, when you were working
in TM centers, getting a letter or a call from
either National or the Regional Office demanding
that you return audiotape X or videotape Y,
immediately?

I know such requests went out, and I also know
what happened to the tapes. They were sent back
to Switzerland, where they were destroyed. In
almost every case, it was because the tape, what-
ever *else* may have been on it, contained a clip
of Maharishi saying something that had become 
embarrassing to the movement. So the approach 
was to make it go away. 








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[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's handwriting

2006-10-09 Thread shempmcgurk
http://tinyurl.com/lml7o




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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread shempmcgurk
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 --- off_world_beings wrote:
 
  Stephen Hawkings recently 
  denounced the theory that made him famous 20 years ago. 
 
 What theory was that?


The theory that if you're a quadraplegic in a wheelchair and have to 
speak through a computer that everything you say somehow has great 
importance attached to it.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Times Article Oct 8 2006

2006-10-09 Thread shempmcgurk
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
 I wish to heck I could remember where on the Web
 I saw it.

If you find it let me know.

OffWorld
   
   Perhaps on some of the anti-TM -websites??
  
  This really made me laugh!   But so true, so true.\
 
 Why would anti-TM Web sites have samples of MMY's
 handwriting??


Obviously, he must have written in complaining of how they were 
portraying him.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: CIA in TMO?

2006-10-09 Thread shempmcgurk
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
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  It's the same predisposition that leads people to think they're 
so 
  important that the CIA actually has to spend it's time and 
energy to 
  spy on them.
 
 
 IMO, many have not looked at all sides of the CIA thing -- and thus
 draw limited conclusions. My experience in teaching for a year in a
 foreign country was:
 
 i) many locals thought we may be CIA -- perhaps jokingly,
 speculatively or seriously -- but in talking to good friends I made
 there -- in private, they would confide that we being CIA was a
 specualtive rift in the air -- the buzz in many circles.
 
  ii) I found out years later (from one of the guys who married 
a
 local girl, and had long-term strong business and social ties in 
the
 upper levels of society in that country) that the local 
government, a
 dictatorship -- so no pesky human rights issues to get in the way -
-
 did keep detailed files on each of us (foreign TM teachers). Right
 down to quite personal , um dating issues. 
 
 It did occur to me over the years -- and recently when watching 
that
 excellent Michael Caine film, The Quiet American -- that the 
groups
 of TMO Americans and Europeans in the 70's who flooded into foreign
 countries world wide, WOULD be an excellent conduit for the CIA. Or
 other foreign intelligence agencies. We had great cover to travel
 anywhere in the country, meeting with locals at all levels of 
society
 -- academic, religous, military, regional and national govt
 administration, entertainers, businessmen, etc, flying off to 
Europe
 at times, lots of international phone calls etc. 
 
 While I have no direct knowledge that such agencies did join our 
ranks
 (in Associate 108 programs -- and similar), I find it quite 
plausible
 that some did. 
 
 Or, the CIA might have gotten wind that some other foreign agencies
 were using the TMO A108 program, so they sent some agents to
 infiltrate to see what the other agnecies might be up to. 
 
 Or, knowing that the A108's were subject to detailed scrutiny by 
local
 gov'ts, they may have seen this as an opportunity to recruit locals
 embedded in the local gov'ts intelligence networks.
 
 So, for a number of reasons, I find it plausible that the CIA or 
other
 intelligence agencies were inside the TMO at times. This has 
nothing
 to do with delusions of self-importance. To simply laugh this off 
as
 delusions of self-importance -- is simplistic and missing quite a 
bit
 of the picture.


That an intelligence-gathering arm of a government was gathering 
information on an organisation that claimed to levitate and had a 
world government that seeked to control the entire world, yes, I, 
too, find that plausible.  And it's the job of the CIA to gather 
information on any and all foreign-run organisations of this kind 
and if they weren't gathering information on the TMO they would be 
derelict in their duty.

That any credible intelligence organisation ever thought that MMY or 
the TMO were important enough to actually spend more time than just 
gathering newsclips and such?  No, I don't find that plausible.

But it's a great story that DOES make delusional people in the TMO 
feel that they are important.  Oh, well.  Just as there's no harm in 
telling a little boy that his space-blaster that you've just bought 
him at Toys-R-Us will kill all the monsters in his closet at night, 
I suppose there's no harm in Maharishi and TBers believing that the 
TMO has been infiltrated by the CIA






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[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Times Article Oct 8 2006

2006-10-09 Thread curtisdeltablues
My favorite was not including Jerry Jarvis in the history of the
movement book.  NO picture, no mention.  The founder of SIMS did not
exist!




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Perhaps on some of the anti-TM -websites??

This really made me laugh!   But so true, so true.\
   
   Why would anti-TM Web sites have samples of MMY's
   handwriting??
 
  Cuz they often preserve MMY's early stuff better than the movement.
 
 So true. Do you remember, when you were working
 in TM centers, getting a letter or a call from
 either National or the Regional Office demanding
 that you return audiotape X or videotape Y,
 immediately?
 
 I know such requests went out, and I also know
 what happened to the tapes. They were sent back
 to Switzerland, where they were destroyed. In
 almost every case, it was because the tape, what-
 ever *else* may have been on it, contained a clip
 of Maharishi saying something that had become 
 embarrassing to the movement. So the approach 
 was to make it go away.








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Uh-oh...

2006-10-09 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote:
 North Korea has just announced that it has
 successfully completed its first nuclear
 test, and South Korea is confirming it.

 The Pentagon is *not* confirming it, but if
 North Korea actually did have a test, we already
 know about it.

 If true, it's double-plus-ungood.
I wonder how much that cost the Republicans since it gets Foley off the 
front page for a while?



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[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Times Article Oct 8 2006

2006-10-09 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My favorite was not including Jerry Jarvis in the history of the
 movement book.  NO picture, no mention.  The founder of SIMS did 
not
 exist!


It's like coming out with a new version of the New Testament and 
leaving out John the Baptist.



 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Perhaps on some of the anti-TM -websites??
 
 This really made me laugh!   But so true, so true.\

Why would anti-TM Web sites have samples of MMY's
handwriting??
  
   Cuz they often preserve MMY's early stuff better than the 
movement.
  
  So true. Do you remember, when you were working
  in TM centers, getting a letter or a call from
  either National or the Regional Office demanding
  that you return audiotape X or videotape Y,
  immediately?
  
  I know such requests went out, and I also know
  what happened to the tapes. They were sent back
  to Switzerland, where they were destroyed. In
  almost every case, it was because the tape, what-
  ever *else* may have been on it, contained a clip
  of Maharishi saying something that had become 
  embarrassing to the movement. So the approach 
  was to make it go away.
 








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[FairfieldLife] Really Charlie Brown; this time you can kick the ball! HONEST!

2006-10-09 Thread hermandan0
Well the predictions are very precise so Charile Brown will know by
October 20 if Lucy pulls the football yet again. Hope, of course,
seems to spring eternal.

And while I've enjoyed the discussion and analysis of the ME arising
from this promise (thank you new.morning for the insights and lessons
you give in this type of analysis and for the obvious amount of work
you put into it) I am continually amazed at MMY's ability to keep
people lining up for a kick at the ball, with ever-brazen, bold-faced
assertions that this time **it really is happening**. In two weeks,to
be precise.

But then, to paraphrase Dr. Pete, maybe MMY is the brazen light of
Brahma. OTOH maybe he's Charles Schultz and Bevan, John, the Rajas,
et al are his Lucies.

Now, where's my blankie?

From http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/117285
 Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 05:19:39 -0700 (PDT)
 Subject: [Transcendental_Meditation] The Pundits are coming to
 the US!

 (News Flash from Dr. Mohan Raj Gurubatham)



 500 pandits will be coming in 2 weeks. Bevan said we have
 made
 it. with the pandits and their yagya - MMY said that
 America will be , is invincible. We have been playing
 America the beautiful everyday since the course in
 JUly and MMY wanted us to sing it and some have made
 some new verses and we will sing it tomorrow.


 I am looking forward to the pandits and in 2 weeks we
 will have 1,700 and hopefully more will come and very
 soon 2,000 will be reached.

And from
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/117221
DOME MEETING, PUNDITS COMING  OCT. 6, 2006

Just wanted to fill you in on the Maharishi call this morning which
was the
most touching, real, and promising ever.

First of all, 50 pundits are getting a VISA each day and will be coming
daily starting soon.  500 are in line to com in the next couple of weeks,
all trained by Maharishi for Sidhis and Yagya performances around the
clock.
They will be staying in Vedic City,  and new housing will be going up
right
away.  Finally!!!









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's handwriting

2006-10-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 http://tinyurl.com/lml7o

That's it!!  Thanks, Shemp!  How did you find it??






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Uh-oh...

2006-10-09 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 authfriend wrote:
  North Korea has just announced that it has
  successfully completed its first nuclear
  test, and South Korea is confirming it.
 
  The Pentagon is *not* confirming it, but if
  North Korea actually did have a test, we already
  know about it.
 
  If true, it's double-plus-ungood.
 I wonder how much that cost the Republicans since it gets Foley 
off the 
 front page for a while?



I'm confused.

From what you liberals have been writing here these past few weeks, 
the Republicans were putting Foley front and center to get things 
such as North Korea and Iraq off the front page.

Make up your minds which conspiracy the Republicans are engaged in, 
please.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Times Article Oct 8 2006

2006-10-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Cuz they often preserve MMY's early stuff better than the movement.

Why should the *movement* want to preserve samples
of MMY's handwriting??  Maybe some devotee or collector
would, but the TMO?



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ 
wrote:
   
  I wish to heck I could remember where on the Web
  I saw it.
 
 If you find it let me know.
 
 OffWorld

Perhaps on some of the anti-TM -websites??
   
   This really made me laugh!   But so true, so true.\
  
  Why would anti-TM Web sites have samples of MMY's
  handwriting??







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[FairfieldLife] Barry's paradise is becoming more and more like the Evil USA

2006-10-09 Thread shempmcgurk
France to impose smoking ban from 2007
Sun Oct 8, 2006 1:47pm ET
Health News

We have decided to ban smoking in public places from February 1, 
2007, he told RTL radio and LCI television.

He added that bar-tabacs, discos and other such places would have 
until January 1, 2008 at the latest to comply with the rules.

Public places include stations, museums, government offices and 
shops but not in the streets or private places such as houses or 
hotel rooms. 


Villepin added the state would take charge of one-third of the costs 
of anti-smoking treatments, such as a patch.

That would represent the first month of treatment, he said.

In a report presented on Wednesday, several parliamentarians called 
for a total ban from September 1, 2007 at the latest, without 
exception. But a smoking ban will cause problems for the many 
tobacco shops in France.

Villepin declined to comment on the impact it would have on 
government tax revenues, saying that public health considerations 
outweighed any such fiscal impact.

In the report, the parliamentarians said that each year between 
2,500 and 5,800 people died of the consequences of passive smoking --
 inhaling the smoke of smokers. Some 66,000 smokers die each year.   
Continued... 

© Reuters 2006. All Rights Reserved. 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's handwriting

2006-10-09 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  http://tinyurl.com/lml7o
 
 That's it!!  Thanks, Shemp!  How did you find it??


Like you, I had also seen it somewhere.  So I figured we had both seen 
it the same place...and I assumed we would have been told about it 
from the same place: amt.

So I did an advanced google group search on maharishi's handwriting 
for a.m.t. and the link came up.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Times Article Oct 8 2006

2006-10-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Perhaps on some of the anti-TM -websites??

This really made me laugh!   But so true, so true.\
   
   Why would anti-TM Web sites have samples of MMY's
   handwriting??
 
  Cuz they often preserve MMY's early stuff better than the 
movement.
 
 So true.

But in this case irrelevant, of course.


 Do you remember, when you were working
 in TM centers, getting a letter or a call from
 either National or the Regional Office demanding
 that you return audiotape X or videotape Y,
 immediately?
 
 I know such requests went out, and I also know
 what happened to the tapes. They were sent back
 to Switzerland, where they were destroyed. In
 almost every case, it was because the tape, what-
 ever *else* may have been on it, contained a clip
 of Maharishi saying something that had become 
 embarrassing to the movement. So the approach 
 was to make it go away.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Uh-oh...

2006-10-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
   
North Korea has just announced that it has
successfully completed its first nuclear
test, and South Korea is confirming it.

The Pentagon is *not* confirming it, but if
North Korea actually did have a test, we already
know about it.

If true, it's double-plus-ungood.
   
   Come on- Please don't buy into this propaganda. Kim Jong Il
   needs dictatorial control over his country, but he is scared
   to death of the USA. We have 25,000 nuclear weapons. We 
   continuously proliferate nuclear weapons technology, and we
   are supposedly warning the world because a bankrupt
   dictatorship is claiming they have tested *one*??
   
   Wow. Who is the threat to world stability here?
  
  Um.  Exactly why did you think I said it was not a
  good thing, Jim?
 
 Hey, if you agree with my assessment, I agree with yours! ;-)

Sheesh.  Bush is already freaking out because the
NIE report, the Woodward book, and the Foley scandal
have robbed him of what he believed was the momentum
he was creating for the Republicans.

And now this slap in the face from North Korea.  He's
going to have to do something dramatic to recoup.

And we all know what terrific judgment he has.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Uh-oh...

2006-10-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  authfriend wrote:
   North Korea has just announced that it has
   successfully completed its first nuclear
   test, and South Korea is confirming it.
  
   The Pentagon is *not* confirming it, but if
   North Korea actually did have a test, we already
   know about it.
  
   If true, it's double-plus-ungood.
 
  I wonder how much that cost the Republicans since it gets Foley 
  off the front page for a while?
 
 I'm confused.
 
 From what you liberals have been writing here these past few weeks, 
 the Republicans were putting Foley front and center to get things 
 such as North Korea and Iraq off the front page.
 
 Make up your minds which conspiracy the Republicans are engaged in, 
 please.

What's confusing you, Shemp, is that liberals
don't march in lockstep.  They're actually not
afraid to disagree with each other.  The more
reasonable of us don't buy into all the
conspiracy theories, for example.

BTW, what may also be confusing you is that the
Republicans are accusing the *liberals* of
a conspiracy to release the Foley emails and IMs
in order to disgrace the Republicans right before
the elections.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Uh-oh...

2006-10-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin 
jflanegi@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:

 North Korea has just announced that it has
 successfully completed its first nuclear
 test, and South Korea is confirming it.
 
 The Pentagon is *not* confirming it, but if
 North Korea actually did have a test, we already
 know about it.
 
 If true, it's double-plus-ungood.

Come on- Please don't buy into this propaganda. Kim Jong Il
needs dictatorial control over his country, but he is scared
to death of the USA. We have 25,000 nuclear weapons. We 
continuously proliferate nuclear weapons technology, and we
are supposedly warning the world because a bankrupt
dictatorship is claiming they have tested *one*??

Wow. Who is the threat to world stability here?
   
   Um.  Exactly why did you think I said it was not a
   good thing, Jim?
  
  Hey, if you agree with my assessment, I agree with yours! ;-)
 
 Sheesh.  Bush is already freaking out because the
 NIE report, the Woodward book, and the Foley scandal
 have robbed him of what he believed was the momentum
 he was creating for the Republicans.
 
 And now this slap in the face from North Korea.  He's
 going to have to do something dramatic to recoup.
 
 And we all know what terrific judgment he has.

Speaking of judgement, I recall M. saying that the penalty is much 
more severe for those who have the responsibility to uphold the law 
and then break it, than it is for the common person. It looks like 
Bush gets less and less sleep these days...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- off_world_beings wrote:
  
   Stephen Hawkings recently 
   denounced the theory that made him famous 20 years ago. 
  
  What theory was that?
 
 
 The theory that if you're a quadraplegic in a wheelchair and have to 
 speak through a computer that everything you say somehow has great 
 importance attached to it.

Yeah- no kidding. I am fascinated by the phenomenon in our culture 
whereby people who overcome their extraordinarily bad karma are looked 
upon as heroes, while the majority of people who have not incurred 
such bad karma, and therefore don't have to learn to walk with a 
prosthesis for example, or wear a wig as a result of chemotherapy 
cancer treatments are somehow seen as lesser beings. It is just plain 
weird.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's handwriting

2006-10-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   http://tinyurl.com/lml7o
  
  That's it!!  Thanks, Shemp!  How did you find it??
 
 Like you, I had also seen it somewhere.  So I figured we had
 both seen it the same place...and I assumed we would have been
 told about it from the same place: amt.
 
 So I did an advanced google group search on maharishi's 
 handwriting for a.m.t. and the link came up.

Oh, very smart.  I thought I had just stumbled on it,
not been referred to it.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry's paradise is becoming more and more like the Evil USA

2006-10-09 Thread TurquoiseB
A good thing. There will be some blowback about
this, interestingly enough from cafe and restaurant
owners who feel (rightly) that it will hit them in
the cash register, but in the latest polls over 70%
of the people felt that it was time, so it's time.

What I'm wondering is whether there are loopholes,
such as I've seen in California and recently in 
Dublin. It turns out that in both those places, 
although smoking is banned in restaurants and bars,
that only covers areas under the *roof* of the 
building. So what happens is that establishments
put tables and chairs in the adjoining alleyway
or the area formerly used for garbage bins, and
get to call it a smoking area. It turns into a 
real windfall for the few establishments that can
do this, because all those who haven't given up
smoking flock to the place.

That said, it's really going to change the French
cityscape. Smoking and smoking in cafes is so much
a part of the French mythos that it's going to cause
a lot of smokers to go through a *bunch* of changes.
Not as many changes as dying, however...

And speaking of the French and smoking, click this
link and then scroll to the bottom of the page to 
see a recent photo of Jean Paul Belmondo at 73. The
dude's had some health problems in recent years, but
has hit the gym to combat them, and to my eye he looks 
*really* good for 73, and for the man who almost single-
handedly formed the link in film buffs' minds between
French men and the cigarette dangling from their lips.

http://tinyurl.com/jnjw2

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 France to impose smoking ban from 2007
 Sun Oct 8, 2006 1:47pm ET
 Health News
 
 We have decided to ban smoking in public places from February 1, 
 2007, he told RTL radio and LCI television.
 
 He added that bar-tabacs, discos and other such places would have 
 until January 1, 2008 at the latest to comply with the rules.
 
 Public places include stations, museums, government offices and 
 shops but not in the streets or private places such as houses or 
 hotel rooms. 
 
 
 Villepin added the state would take charge of one-third of the costs 
 of anti-smoking treatments, such as a patch.
 
 That would represent the first month of treatment, he said.
 
 In a report presented on Wednesday, several parliamentarians called 
 for a total ban from September 1, 2007 at the latest, without 
 exception. But a smoking ban will cause problems for the many 
 tobacco shops in France.
 
 Villepin declined to comment on the impact it would have on 
 government tax revenues, saying that public health considerations 
 outweighed any such fiscal impact.
 
 In the report, the parliamentarians said that each year between 
 2,500 and 5,800 people died of the consequences of passive smoking 
 -- inhaling the smoke of smokers. Some 66,000 smokers die each year.   
 Continued... 
 
 © Reuters 2006. All Rights Reserved.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:21 AM, authfriend wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@
  wrote:
 
 
  --- authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
 
  Oh, you don't get it.  Try reading it again.
  No, really.  It isn't that difficult to grasp,
  even for you, Barry.
 
 
  Judy, I've got a serious question for you. Why do you
  make comments like the above? What purpose does it
  serve. We all know that you don't like Barry, but this
  near constant sarcasm and snide remarks, why?
  Occassionally it would be funny and witty, but this
  barrage is what people are talking about how FFL is
  becoming like AMT.
 
 
  Oh, you don't get it. Try reading it again.
  No, really. It isn't that difficult to grasp,
  even for you, Peter.
 
  snicker
 
 
 I say blue-paper her Dr. Pete and prescribe ECT.


The ECT clinic is in an entirely different building with an entirely different 
cast, sorry...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
 
  Judy, I've got a serious question for you. Why do you
  make comments like the above? What purpose does it
  serve. We all know that you don't like Barry, but this
  near constant sarcasm and snide remarks, why?
  Occassionally it would be funny and witty, but this
  barrage is what people are talking about how FFL is
  becoming like AMT.
 
 BTW, it's not just tone, it's volume too.
 Stats for October 1 through 7:
 
 Total posts: 1025
 
 shempmcgurk: 135 / 13.2% of total
 sparaig: 122 / 11.9% of total
 authfriend: 105 / 10.2% of total
 
 Sparaig has already exceeded his ten-year total
 of a.m.t. posts here on FFL. And at her current
 posting rate, within the next year Judy will 
 have posted more messages to FFL than she did 
 on a.m.t. in that same ten years. Something to 
 look forward to, eh?



But, hey, who keeps score, eh?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   Oh, you don't get it.  Try reading it again.
   No, really.  It isn't that difficult to grasp,
   even for you, Barry.
  
  Judy, I've got a serious question for you. Why do you
  make comments like the above? What purpose does it
  serve. We all know that you don't like Barry, but this
  near constant sarcasm and snide remarks, why?
  Occassionally it would be funny and witty, but this
  barrage is what people are talking about how FFL is
  becoming like AMT.
 
 Oh, you don't get it. Try reading it again.
 No, really. It isn't that difficult to grasp,
 even for you, Peter.
 
 snicker



I'm sorry, arguments are down the hall. This is abuse...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Discerning a ME (was Pundits are coming)

2006-10-09 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
  
   The crash of 1987 was the only one that was considered 
 significant 
   since the crash of 1929the crash of 1929 is how you framed 
 and 
   gave credence to your argumentby using false 
 statements.and 
   decreasing your credibility on other matters.
  
  Just as an item of cult interest, the odd guy I studied
  with for a while (Rama/Dr. Frederick Lenz) actually 
  claimed credit for causing the 1987 crash. Unlike in
  the TMO when *they* claim credit for such things, most 
  of his students just nodded and said, Yeah right,
  dude...now let's get back to talking about stuff you
  actually know something about.  :-)
  
  But there were a few who bought it, and who undoubtedly
  buy it still. The desire for self importance (I'm a
  member of the group that caused X to happen.) never
  ceases to amaze me. Whether it's the Biblethumpers
  claiming that God destroyed New Orleans to punish the
  city for its wicked ways or that the stock market's 
  going up because a few people are silly enough to bounce 
  around on their butts for several hours a day, it's
  always the same bottom line -- *We* are important,
  because *we* are the cause of all this. Yeah right,
  dudes...now let's get back to talking about stuff you
  actually know something about.
 
 
 It's the same predisposition that leads people to think they're so 
 important that the CIA actually has to spend it's time and energy to 
 spy on them.


As we all know, the US law enforcement and intelligence agencies are paragons 
of 
efficiency and never waste their time on monitoring groups and individuals for 
non-policy 
reasons--isn't that right, Mr Hoover?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Oh, you don't get it.  Try reading it again.
  No, really.  It isn't that difficult to grasp,
  even for you, Barry.
 
 Judy, I've got a serious question for you. Why do you
 make comments like the above? What purpose does it
 serve. We all know that you don't like Barry, but this
 near constant sarcasm and snide remarks, why?
 Occassionally it would be funny and witty, but this
 barrage is what people are talking about how FFL is
 becoming like AMT.

No it isn't...

[reference to Monty Python skit goes here]





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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam 
jpgillam@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- off_world_beings wrote:
   
Stephen Hawkings recently 
denounced the theory that made him famous 20 years ago. 
   
   What theory was that?
  
  
  The theory that if you're a quadraplegic in a wheelchair and 
have to 
  speak through a computer that everything you say somehow has 
great 
  importance attached to it.
 
 Yeah- no kidding. I am fascinated by the phenomenon in our culture 
 whereby people who overcome their extraordinarily bad karma are 
looked 
 upon as heroes, while the majority of people who have not incurred 
 such bad karma, and therefore don't have to learn to walk with a 
 prosthesis for example, or wear a wig as a result of chemotherapy 
 cancer treatments are somehow seen as lesser beings. It is just 
plain 
 weird.


And it extends to the Academy Awards, too.

If you play someone mentally challenged (Cliff Robertson 
in Charlie), a paraplegic (Daniel Day Lewis in My Left Foot), 
someone mentally ill (Geofrey Rush in Shine), an autistic (Dustin 
Hoffman in Rain Man), if you have a terminal disease (Tom Hanks 
in Philadelphia), an amputee (Jon Voigt in Coming Home), a blind 
man (Al Pacino in whatever), you're a shoo-in to win.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uh-oh...

2006-10-09 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
 authfriend wrote:
   
 North Korea has just announced that it has
 successfully completed its first nuclear
 test, and South Korea is confirming it.

 The Pentagon is *not* confirming it, but if
 North Korea actually did have a test, we already
 know about it.

 If true, it's double-plus-ungood.
 
 I wonder how much that cost the Republicans since it gets Foley 
 off the front page for a while?
   
 I'm confused.

 From what you liberals have been writing here these past few weeks, 
 the Republicans were putting Foley front and center to get things 
 such as North Korea and Iraq off the front page.

 Make up your minds which conspiracy the Republicans are engaged in, 
 please.
 

 What's confusing you, Shemp, is that liberals
 don't march in lockstep.  They're actually not
 afraid to disagree with each other.  The more
 reasonable of us don't buy into all the
 conspiracy theories, for example.
   
More reasonable?  Try more gullible.   Those who don't entertain 
supposed conspiracy theories are often doing so to maintain some kind 
of facade that they are the voice of reason.

To me that a bunch of 19 Arab terrorists pulled off 9-11 with just box 
cutters sounds like like a wild conspiracy theory to me.

 BTW, what may also be confusing you is that the
 Republicans are accusing the *liberals* of
 a conspiracy to release the Foley emails and IMs
 in order to disgrace the Republicans right before
 the elections.
   
And of course in reality we can play up the fact that Bush 
administration ignored the North Korean threat up until now.

Two words that send Shemp and MDixon running for the Pepto-Bismo:
President Pelosi




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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]
 
 Unless there is a time-out or these toxic posters are banned from  
 FFL, FFL is on it's way out as a list.


Here, here!


Seriously, just because certain people post things YOU don't like, doesn't mean 
that they 
should be banned. 

Unless one-liners get to you, eh?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's handwriting

2006-10-09 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 shempmcgurk@ 
   wrote:
   
http://tinyurl.com/lml7o
   
   That's it!!  Thanks, Shemp!  How did you find it??
  
  Like you, I had also seen it somewhere.  So I figured we had
  both seen it the same place...and I assumed we would have been
  told about it from the same place: amt.
  
  So I did an advanced google group search on maharishi's 
  handwriting for a.m.t. and the link came up.
 
 Oh, very smart.  I thought I had just stumbled on it,
 not been referred to it.


See? Sometimes, me not dat toopid.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples

2006-10-09 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
   

Seems to me anthropic reasoning points directly
to the problem of awareness.
   
   
   **
   
   ...the dark energy is infinitesimal and no one has been able to 
 say 
   why.
   
   Except, that is, for followers of a controversial doctrine 
 called the 
   anthropic principle. There is no fundamental reason, they say, 
 why the 
   dark energy is so weak. It is just that if it were much 
 stronger, space 
   would have expanded too rapidly to harbor stars and, ultimately, 
 life. 
   The implication is that there is a multitude of possible 
 universes, 
   each with its own physics. Naturally, we are in one where it is 
   possible for us to exist.
   
   http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/weekinreview/08johnson.html
  
  
  It's not really THAT controversial. Stephen Hawkings subscribes to 
 it, I think...
 
 Stephen Hawkings recently denounced the theory that made him famous 
 20 years ago. Think that one through. Stephen Hawkings recently 
 denounced the theory that made him famous 20 years ago. 

Er, no. He recanted on a specific belief about Black Holes and 
information--that the 
information was gone forever. He certainly didn't renounce a belief in 
evaporating black 
holes, only in a belief that they emitted radiation that was completely random.





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