[FairfieldLife] 'Turkish Press/Picks up Lynch Meditation Story'

[Robert Gimbel]

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=174113
   
-
Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
 Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

[FairfieldLife] Subwayland

[authfriend]

Photos of the Stockholm subway:

http://ueba.net/hosted_pages/Stockholm-Subway-20070214

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pity, the Poor Pundits

[Robert Gimbel]

 
> > > Lsoma wrote:
> > >
> > > We, really want angry bitter men doing yagya?
> > > Sounds dangerous on many  levels of intention.
> >
> 
> Maharishi's weapon, of mass destruction?
>  
> > pundit campus, six months from now ??


Om Namah Shivaya- Destroyer of darkness on earth, revealer of the truth;
great purifier; using the power of consciousness to release the 
darkness of the lower worlds, and transform them by releasing them to 
the higher realms, where they are dissolved
 
> > 
> > http://www.19.5degs.com/nf/images/1727/zanjeer.jpg
> > 
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Pundit Vids?

[shukra69]

you can listen to clips of the Maharishi Pundits and buy many cds 
available here
http://www.vedic-arts.com/Items.jsp?category_id=1&;


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "george_deforest" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > > off_world_beings wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone got any Vids of large groups of Maharishi Pundits
> > > they care to post online. I remember seeing one
> > > of a very large group doing a yagya in Maharishi Nagar.
> > > Doubt if there have been any large groups like that since.
> > >
> > > Would be a good historical video
> > >
> > > OffWorld
> > 
> > could not find this back when you asked for it, but
> > came upon it today!
> > 
> > http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/
> >   >>
> 
> Thanks - excellent !
> Wow, what I would do to get the full length yagya version of 
> this !...it is very inspiring and evocative of the power even in 
> this short clip with only young boys. Imagine 10,000 experienced 
> pundits chanting this !..the world would wake up changed the 
> next day.
> 
> OffWorld
>

[FairfieldLife] Why doesn't someone start a new open-ended group (was Re: Narada)

[shukra69]

people are attracted to the evil intent of this group, either trying 
counter it or morbid curiousity of what the next fabrications will be



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Rick and most of the others here *like* it that
> > way, nice and bland, minimal spontaneity, minimal
> > interaction, a showcase for those who like to do
> > set pieces, a little of this, a little of that,
> > move on to the next.  Criticism of MMY and the
> > TMO along party lines; a bit of tame dissent is
> > OK here and there, as long as it doesn't get in
> > anybody's face. Above all, keep it *safe*. Avoid
> > disturbance at all costs.
> >
> 
> I had a thought as I was reading this-and that is, why don't you-
Judy,
> or some of the others here who would like a more open-ended 
nonlimited
>  forum for discussions, start a different yahoo group, they are very
> easy to start up and then you just post news of it here and people 
who
> want to have no limits can join that group?
> 
> I'm not interested as I do like this blander version of FFlife, but
> there are a solid handful of posters here who have expressed the
> desire for this. It would take all of ten minutes to start up the
> yahoo group.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: I found a new one!

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
>  wrote:
> >
> > This thread rocks!  There are so many designations of 
specialness.
> > 
> > Purusha "inactive wiener, kinky loin cloths."
> 
> And possibly wet loincloths while sleeping.


Dear Turquoise. I just had a vision of your future lifetime !   
Here's how it goesfirst you wake up from your stupor in a pile 
of sleeping vagrants...THEN !..it goes downhill from there. 

Sorry, probably should have kept this to myself.

OffWorld 



> > Mother Divine "inactive uh,... oh you get the point! Must be fun
> > explaining to the relatives the difference between 'Mother 
Divine' 
> > and 'Spinster' on holidays."
> 
> Naah, that's easy. Spinsters don't hit their 
> relatives up for money for the Next Big Thing
> every time they come home.
> 
> > Rising Citizen "hasn't forked over the dough yet, Washes 
> > pots and pans in movement facilities."
> 
> And doesn't raise a ruckus when told that his
> "course credit" has been devalued to half its
> former value. Or taken away altogether.
> 
> > Minister " the course cost a lot but it gave you zero pull 
> > afterwards, sorry."
> 
> I've been away from the TMO for far too long
> to actually remember any of the names of the
> "Ministries," but they'd be a fun addition to
> this thread. I always wanted to be part of the
> Ministry of Redundancy Ministry.
> 
> > I think my favorite is "His Divinity" which refers to Guru 
> > Dev's nature as beyond human.  
> 
> Interesting recipe aside, I find myself wondering
> how Guru Dev himself would *feel* about being
> called this. I would *hope* that he would be not
> only offended, but saddened that people had so
> not gotten The Point Of It All to consider a 
> normal, everyday seeker who had realized his
> normal, everyday enlightenment "divine." 
> 
> To imply that he was divine doesn't add to his 
> stature in my book; it takes away from it. The 
> message of enlightenment is that *anyone* can 
> realize it. To portray a human being who has
> done nothing more than realize his own essential
> nature as enlightenment as having accomplished 
> that as a result of being "divine" seems to me 
> to be a disservice to the whole study of 
> enlightenment. But that's probably just me...
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and TM make Drudge Report

[mainstream20016]

I scan Drudge daily, and am increasingly impressed with the access it provides  
to 
publications world-wide. From Drudge, access to content is convenient by being 
both log-in 
and password-free.

Drudge posted the Lynch story directly beneath a picture of Hillary Clinton and 
a story  about 
Hillary dropping her maiden name for the campaign.

'Lynch' typed into the 'Search Drudge' field leads to the edition of Drudge 
that 
carried the Lynch story:
FILMMAKER DAVID LYNCH ANNOUNCES PLAN TO END SCHOOL VIOLENCE... ^ 
>From the April 30, 2007 20:18:13 GMT edition of the Drudge Report

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3cx4ur
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pity, the Poor Pundits

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "george_deforest" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Lsoma wrote:
> >
> > We, really want angry bitter men doing yagya?
> > Sounds dangerous on many  levels of intention.
> 
> pundit campus, six months from now ??


Lol !  !   ! 

And they will then take over America !

OffWorld


> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.19.5degs.com/nf/images/1727/zanjeer.jpg
> 
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch on-line tomorrow at Washington Post.com

[mainstream20016]

Didn't see it - but 'Lynch' typed into the AP search field  on Drudge
led to the Washington Post site that announces that David Lynch will be
on-line tomorrow, Wed., May 2nd, at noon. The subject is Fishing.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3cx4ur
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pity, the Poor Pundits

[dhamiltony2k5]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "george_deforest" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Lsoma wrote:
> >
> > We, really want angry bitter men doing yagya?
> > Sounds dangerous on many  levels of intention.
>

Maharishi's weapon, of mass destruction?
 
> pundit campus, six months from now ??
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.19.5degs.com/nf/images/1727/zanjeer.jpg
> 
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: I found a new one!

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
 I find myself wondering
> how Guru Dev himself would *feel* about being
> called this. I would *hope* that he would be not
> only offended, but saddened that people had so
> not gotten The Point Of It All to consider a 
> normal, everyday seeker who had realized his
> normal, everyday enlightenment "divine." 
> 
> To imply that he was divine doesn't add to his 
> stature in my book; it takes away from it. The 
> message of enlightenment is that *anyone* can 
> realize it. To portray a human being who has
> done nothing more than realize his own essential
> nature as enlightenment as having accomplished 
> that as a result of being "divine" seems to me 
> to be a disservice to the whole study of 
> enlightenment. But that's probably just me...
>
To proclaim His Divinity Brahmananda Saraswati (Guru Dev) as divine 
is a reflection of his status as a most highly evolved human being; 
more human than those who retain their animal nature, He Who Barks 
On Two Legs.

As you may know, we are all Divine. It is not a criticism to say 
that of someone else. More of a scientific determination of their 
evolution than anything else. I realize you are just fucking around 
here, but others may be confused by your constant attempts to sound 
ignorant.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pity, the Poor Pundits

[george_deforest]

> Lsoma wrote:
>
> We, really want angry bitter men doing yagya?
> Sounds dangerous on many  levels of intention.

pundit campus, six months from now ??





http://www.19.5degs.com/nf/images/1727/zanjeer.jpg

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why doesn't someone start a new open-ended group (was Re: Narada)

[gullible fool]

I would never work, cause Barry would likely not join
it. 

There are already plenty of other forums to post about
TM in. 
 
--- Kenny H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Rick and most of the others here *like* it that
> > way, nice and bland, minimal spontaneity, minimal
> > interaction, a showcase for those who like to do
> > set pieces, a little of this, a little of that,
> > move on to the next.  Criticism of MMY and the
> > TMO along party lines; a bit of tame dissent is
> > OK here and there, as long as it doesn't get in
> > anybody's face. Above all, keep it *safe*. Avoid
> > disturbance at all costs.
> >
> 
> I had a thought as I was reading this-and that is,
> why don't you-Judy,
> or some of the others here who would like a more
> open-ended nonlimited
>  forum for discussions, start a different yahoo
> group, they are very
> easy to start up and then you just post news of it
> here and people who
> want to have no limits can join that group?
> 
> I'm not interested as I do like this blander version
> of FFlife, but
> there are a solid handful of posters here who have
> expressed the
> desire for this. It would take all of ten minutes to
> start up the
> yahoo group.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To subscribe, send a message to:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Or go to: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
> and click 'Join This Group!' 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: srimad bhagavatam

[gullible fool]

>  The Pundits would be better off converting to
> Mormonism. They could be 
> a new "Church of the Latter Day Vedic Pundits".

Then they could move to Salt Lake City and enjoy
beautiful surroundings, mountain views, skiing and a
nightlife.

--- qntmpkt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ---You mean the "Govardhana Hill".  Google it. 
> Something should turn 
> up. The Hare Krishna Guru AC Bhaktivedanta Swami has
> the most detailed 
> accounts of the exploits of Krishna in his 20+
> volumes of the Srimad 
> Bhagavatam.  Contact a Hare Krishna at your nearest
> airport.
>   In regard to the Pundits, it's obvious that
> they're being treated 
> poorly. There's level of creeping Girishism in what
> remains of the TMO, 
> as a prelude to a takeover.
>  The Pundits would be better off converting to
> Mormonism. They could be 
> a new "Church of the Latter Day Vedic Pundits".
> 
> 
>  In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > A friend wants to know:
> > 
> > speaking of the Shrimad Bhagavatam... do you know
> where i can find  
> > the story of krishna holding up the mountain and
> all the people  
> > holding up their sticks to help?
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To subscribe, send a message to:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Or go to: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
> and click 'Join This Group!' 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Why doesn't someone start a new open-ended group (was Re: Narada)

[Sal Sunshine]

On May 1, 2007, at 8:06 PM, Kenny H wrote:


I had a thought as I was reading this-and that is, why don't you-Judy,
or some of the others here who would like a more open-ended nonlimited
 forum for discussions, start a different yahoo group, they are very
easy to start up and then you just post news of it here and people who
want to have no limits can join that group?


Of course that would be the obvious common-sense solution, Kenny, which 
is why it is unlikely to happen IMO--it's so much more fun to sit here, 
throw stones and complain ad nauseum.  Or something.


Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] srimad bhagavatam

[gullible fool]

I believe it was in that little pink book "Meditations
of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi" that I bought in the 70s.

--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A friend wants to know:
> 
> speaking of the Shrimad Bhagavatam... do you know
> where i can find  
> the story of krishna holding up the mountain and all
> the people  
> holding up their sticks to help? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To subscribe, send a message to:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Or go to: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
> and click 'Join This Group!' 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 


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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pity the Poor Pundits

[gullible fool]

Were the house $425,000 for 3,000 square feet, like 
the first ones sold here?

--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of off_world_beings
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:17 AM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pity the Poor Pundits
> 
>  
> 
> I suspect the loan indentured story to be more
> made-up unverifiable 
> anti-TM propaganda, but if someone credible
> investigates it, then it 
> would be interesting. 
> 
> The loan was for a SV house that each pundit was
> obligated to have built for
> his family. I don't know whether that means his own
> wife and kids, his
> parents, or what. I'll find out.
> 
> 


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[FairfieldLife] Why doesn't someone start a new open-ended group (was Re: Narada)

[Kenny H]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Rick and most of the others here *like* it that
> way, nice and bland, minimal spontaneity, minimal
> interaction, a showcase for those who like to do
> set pieces, a little of this, a little of that,
> move on to the next.  Criticism of MMY and the
> TMO along party lines; a bit of tame dissent is
> OK here and there, as long as it doesn't get in
> anybody's face. Above all, keep it *safe*. Avoid
> disturbance at all costs.
>

I had a thought as I was reading this-and that is, why don't you-Judy,
or some of the others here who would like a more open-ended nonlimited
 forum for discussions, start a different yahoo group, they are very
easy to start up and then you just post news of it here and people who
want to have no limits can join that group?

I'm not interested as I do like this blander version of FFlife, but
there are a solid handful of posters here who have expressed the
desire for this. It would take all of ten minutes to start up the
yahoo group.

[FairfieldLife] For those who prefer to write their 5 per day from bed

[Kenny H]

http://www.ergocanada.com/products/trays/laidback_laptop.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Pundit Vids?

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "george_deforest" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > off_world_beings wrote:
> >
> > Anyone got any Vids of large groups of Maharishi Pundits
> > they care to post online. I remember seeing one
> > of a very large group doing a yagya in Maharishi Nagar.
> > Doubt if there have been any large groups like that since.
> >
> > Would be a good historical video
> >
> > OffWorld
> 
> could not find this back when you asked for it, but
> came upon it today!
> 
> http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/
>   >>

Thanks - excellent !
Wow, what I would do to get the full length yagya version of 
this !...it is very inspiring and evocative of the power even in 
this short clip with only young boys. Imagine 10,000 experienced 
pundits chanting this !..the world would wake up changed the 
next day.

OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dear Prudence with nice Indian footage

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of george_deforest
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:21 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dear Prudence with nice Indian footage
> 
> > Rick Archer wrote:
> >
> > Dear Prudence with nice Indian footage
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5b2tbIr1e8
> 
> thankx rick, this video is awesome; gotta love it!
> can anyone tell me, which one is Prudence?
> 
> Didn't see her in there. I guess that was the point of the song.

FWIW, the guy who edited the clip and put it up
says in the comments, in response to someone's
question, that Prudence is in the clip, but he
doesn't say where; another commenter says she's
"the dark-haired girl on the far left at the
very end of the clip."

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dear Prudence with nice Indian footage

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of george_deforest
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:21 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dear Prudence with nice Indian footage

 

> Rick Archer wrote:
>
> Dear Prudence with nice Indian footage
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5b2tbIr1e8

thankx rick, this video is awesome; gotta love it!
can anyone tell me, which one is Prudence?

Didn't see her in there. I guess that was the point of the song. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Pundit Vids?

[qntmpkt]

---Thanks, George...you are t...kind!  Couldn't bring up the 
video on this computer but the title said "Rudra"I assume Rudra-
Abhisheka or simply called the "Rudram", probably the most important 
long chant to Shiva.  Combined with the ritual offerings of flowers, 
water, etc; to the Murti of Shiva, we have (possibly) the MOST 
powerful type of puja in our galaxy: the Rudra-Abhishekam.
 This innovation (though not original); is one of MMY's more 
brilliant brain-childs; i.e. the idea to use this powerful ritual to 
dispell the evil vibes.
 Now I'm wondering what would happen if Girish did the Rudra-
Abhishekam.  Would he self-destruct?
 At any rate, one can obtain the Rudram chant from 
http://www.arunachala.org
...as part of the evening Veda-Parayana.  It's chanted by some 
pundits at the Ramanasramam (Ashram of Ramana Maharshi) in 
Tiruvannamalai.
 This particular audio CD may possibly be the most powerful recording 
of any Skt. chant.  Get it right away!.
 I believe that the Pundit program will collapse in due time when MMY 
passes away and Girish tries to take over.
 No matter!  Lord Shiva in His infinite Wisdom will always have 
alternative options.  Playing the Rudram on a regular basis will help 
install the Shiva vibes in your brain.  Relying on the Pundits is an 
uncertain affair. You can get the powerful Shiva vibes right in your 
room by playing the Rudram tape.  


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "george_deforest" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > off_world_beings wrote:
> >
> > Anyone got any Vids of large groups of Maharishi Pundits
> > they care to post online. I remember seeing one
> > of a very large group doing a yagya in Maharishi Nagar.
> > Doubt if there have been any large groups like that since.
> >
> > Would be a good historical video
> >
> > OffWorld
> 
> could not find this back when you asked for it, but
> came upon it today!
> 
> http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/
>   
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Pundit Vids?

[george_deforest]

forgot to say, this link gives you some files ...
you may have to open them directly in Real Player,
(may not open in your browser.)

> > off_world_beings wrote:
> >
> > Anyone got any Vids of large groups of Maharishi Pundits
> > they care to post online. I remember seeing one
> > of a very large group doing a yagya in Maharishi Nagar.
> > Doubt if there have been any large groups like that since.
> >
> > Would be a good historical video
> >
> > OffWorld
> 
> could not find this back when you asked for it, but
> came upon it today!
> 
> http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Pundit Vids?

[george_deforest]

> off_world_beings wrote:
>
> Anyone got any Vids of large groups of Maharishi Pundits
> they care to post online. I remember seeing one
> of a very large group doing a yagya in Maharishi Nagar.
> Doubt if there have been any large groups like that since.
>
> Would be a good historical video
>
> OffWorld

could not find this back when you asked for it, but
came upon it today!

http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/
  

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narada, a cup of tea and, please, don't spill a drop

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of authfriend
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:19 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narada, a cup of tea and, please, don't spill a
drop

 

> It's not Yahoo's limitation. It's our own, self-imposed
> limitation, to reign in squabbling over-posters.

How do you sleep with yourself, Rick?

I don't. I sleep with my wife.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dear Prudence with nice Indian footage

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of george_deforest
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:21 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dear Prudence with nice Indian footage

 

> Rick Archer wrote:
>
> Dear Prudence with nice Indian footage
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5b2tbIr1e8

thankx rick, this video is awesome; gotta love it!
can anyone tell me, which one is Prudence?

I'll see if I can tell you when I've watched the whole thing. I ran into
Prudy's husband, Al Bruns, over the weekend. They're living in FF now. He's
on the invincibility course. She's getting her Ph.D. in Vedic Medicine.

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> --- geezerfreak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> > 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Is this ...
> > > 
> > > http://tinyurl.com/2pgkuf
> > 
> > > 
> > > ... the same guy as this:
> > > 
> > > http://tinyurl.com/2l72eu
> > 
> > > 
> > > If so, he's one creepy bastard!  I think he
> > fashions himself a Maharishi
> > > and can't wait for his uncle to die so that he can
> > take a shot at
> > > sitting on the deer skin.
> > > 
> > > Anyone getting a similar vibe?
> > 
> > Creepy? Very. Cross him at your peril. The core of
> > the movement mafia.
> 
> A chip off the old block: a beautiful, enlightened
> asura churning the cosmic ocean of consciousness. Only
> in Kali Yuga!>>

Peter, you just gave him a huge compliment and you don't even know 
it.

OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dear Prudence with nice Indian footage

[george_deforest]

> Rick Archer wrote:
>
> Dear Prudence with nice Indian footage
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5b2tbIr1e8


thankx rick, this video is awesome; gotta love it!
can anyone tell me, which one is Prudence?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Narada, a cup of tea and, please, don't spill a drop

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really -- 
It's A
> No-Brainer.
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 1:22 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narada, a cup of tea and, please, 
don't
> spill a drop
> 
> Thanks for the clarification, Rick, I wasn't aware of 
the "overposting"
> complaints nor the new limits.  It'd be really cooleth if there was 
greater
> message capacity at yahoo, now wouldn't that put some YeaHaw in our 
digital
> britches! 
> 
> It's not Yahoo's limitation. It's our own, self-imposed
> limitation, to reign in squabbling over-posters.

How do you sleep with yourself, Rick?

[FairfieldLife] FLAKY STORY:..//was... Pity the Poor Pundits

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Some pundit news from a well-informed inside source:
<<

<< The pundits are indentured to the TMO for at least 20 years. 
snip..Anyway, as long as they are punditing, the
> movement covers the payments, but if they leave, they have to 
cover them. If
> they don't Anand and Prakash Srivastava sic the police on them. 
This
> happened to the ex-pundit from whom I got this information.>>


Lol, there is a serious flaw in this alleged "insiders" claim.   
His "ex-pundit" (if such there be)...was not put in jail by the 
police as alleged in this concocted story.   

So there appears to be no problem for the pundits, even if they 
leave the TMO. Anti-TM Fundamentalist True Believers just keep 
taking the cool-aid.

OffWorld

.

[FairfieldLife] Re: srimad bhagavatam

[qntmpkt]

---You mean the "Govardhana Hill".  Google it.  Something should turn 
up. The Hare Krishna Guru AC Bhaktivedanta Swami has the most detailed 
accounts of the exploits of Krishna in his 20+ volumes of the Srimad 
Bhagavatam.  Contact a Hare Krishna at your nearest airport.
  In regard to the Pundits, it's obvious that they're being treated 
poorly. There's level of creeping Girishism in what remains of the TMO, 
as a prelude to a takeover.
 The Pundits would be better off converting to Mormonism. They could be 
a new "Church of the Latter Day Vedic Pundits".


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A friend wants to know:
> 
> speaking of the Shrimad Bhagavatam... do you know where i can find  
> the story of krishna holding up the mountain and all the people  
> holding up their sticks to help?
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narada, a cup of tea and, please, don't spill a drop

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really -- It's A
No-Brainer.
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 1:22 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narada, a cup of tea and, please, don't
spill a drop

 

 

Thanks for the clarification, Rick, I wasn't aware of the "overposting"
complaints nor the new limits.  It'd be really cooleth if there was greater
message capacity at yahoo, now wouldn't that put some YeaHaw in our digital
britches! 

 

It's not Yahoo's limitation. It's our own, self-imposed limitation, to reign
in squabbling over-posters.

 

[FairfieldLife] srimad bhagavatam

[Rick Archer]

A friend wants to know:

speaking of the Shrimad Bhagavatam... do you know where i can find  
the story of krishna holding up the mountain and all the people  
holding up their sticks to help? 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Note to Shemp Great note to him keep it up Rick for all

[WLeed3]

THANSK for the post reminder to us all via Shemp



** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[FairfieldLife] Re: I found a new one!

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This thread rocks!  There are so many designations of specialness.
> 
> Purusha "inactive wiener, kinky loin cloths."

And possibly wet loincloths while sleeping.

> Mother Divine "inactive uh,... oh you get the point! Must be fun
> explaining to the relatives the difference between 'Mother Divine' 
> and 'Spinster' on holidays."

Naah, that's easy. Spinsters don't hit their 
relatives up for money for the Next Big Thing
every time they come home.

> Rising Citizen "hasn't forked over the dough yet, Washes 
> pots and pans in movement facilities."

And doesn't raise a ruckus when told that his
"course credit" has been devalued to half its
former value. Or taken away altogether.

> Minister " the course cost a lot but it gave you zero pull 
> afterwards, sorry."

I've been away from the TMO for far too long
to actually remember any of the names of the
"Ministries," but they'd be a fun addition to
this thread. I always wanted to be part of the
Ministry of Redundancy Ministry.

> I think my favorite is "His Divinity" which refers to Guru 
> Dev's nature as beyond human.  

Interesting recipe aside, I find myself wondering
how Guru Dev himself would *feel* about being
called this. I would *hope* that he would be not
only offended, but saddened that people had so
not gotten The Point Of It All to consider a 
normal, everyday seeker who had realized his
normal, everyday enlightenment "divine." 

To imply that he was divine doesn't add to his 
stature in my book; it takes away from it. The 
message of enlightenment is that *anyone* can 
realize it. To portray a human being who has
done nothing more than realize his own essential
nature as enlightenment as having accomplished 
that as a result of being "divine" seems to me 
to be a disservice to the whole study of 
enlightenment. But that's probably just me...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narada, a cup of tea and, please, don't spill a drop

[Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really -- It's A No-Brainer.]

Thanks for the clarification, Rick, I wasn't aware of the "overposting"
complaints nor the new limits.  It'd be really cooleth if there was greater
message capacity at yahoo, now wouldn't that put some YeaHaw in our digital
britches!


*Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most valuable
thing to cultivate and convey to others is a moral conscience. Only such
persons deserve to lead others, in any capacity. Anything less is a menace
to society.*


On 5/1/07, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


   *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Samadhi Is Much Closer Than
You Think -- Really -- It's A No-Brainer.
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 01, 2007 12:11 PM
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narada, a cup of tea and, please, don't
spill a drop





Somehow, it seems like there's a complaint here, though I can't seem to
match the accuracy, nor the relevance of such to my 'two' posts about
searching for a story, one that there's a high likelihood someone in this
forum can help with, in a 'mature' and diplomatic way, as it seems that
Marek has endeavored to do and be, with 'one' post.



Have there been phantom posts that I am unaware of that have continued a
conversation between Marek and myself that, it seems, neither Marek nor I
are aware of?  Three posts, in search of an accurate rendering of a humanly
relevant story conveying conscientious, not contentious, attention to
furthering human evolution, an imperative in defining what it means to be,
and the deservedness of being considered 'human' at all.  What's not being
understood here, among carbon-based entities priveledge to walk among us in
the guise of humans? **



Actually, New Morning was saying that although you and Marek hadn't
exceeded your posting quota, he wouldn't mind if you did, because it was a
meaningful conversation. I agree with him, and that's the way FFL used to
be, except for one or two obsessive posters. With the AMT influx, the big
time bickering and Spraig overposting got out of hand. Hence, the current
posting limit, an unfortunate necessity.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Bush is obviously responsible!

[Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really -- It's A No-Brainer.]

Somehow you got placed at "the head" of your body, how do the sells and
biosystems of your body feel about your leadership?  Perhaps they could have
been "freer" and "more themselves" if they hadn't joined up with the
cumulative endeavor to benefit you?

*To jeopardize the unity of the human race by creating factions is not the
purpose of Dharma. Those who encourage vested interests survive on the
mental weaknesses of people and their dissensions, and that is why they are
scared of the spread of the ideals of Dharma and exhibit their intolerance
towards it in all sorts of immoral ways, such as abuse, false propaganda and
lies.*


On 5/1/07, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You
Think -- Really -- It's A No-Brainer." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey,
> the most valuable thing to cultivate and convey to
> others is a moral conscience.

Or the illusion thereof. It is truly "valuable"
in that people will pay almost anything for it.

> Only such persons deserve to lead others, in any
> capacity. Anything less is a menace to society.

As a corollary, I would say that anyone who
suggests that they *are* such a person with a
"moral conscience" and who thus deserves to
lead others is almost by definition unqualified
to do so. It's a quandary. :-)





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Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most valuable
thing to cultivate and convey to others is a moral conscience. Only such
persons deserve to lead others, in any capacity. Anything less is a menace
to society.

[FairfieldLife] Dear Prudence with nice Indian footage

[Rick Archer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5b2tbIr1e8 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Good Writing

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I love good writing.  When I don't agree with you or Curtis, 
> (and several other good writers here whom I am too lazy to 
> list) I still read the entire post -- that's good writing. 

I completely agree. I find that with some posters, 
I will read every word of every post they write,
just because they've established a track record of
either being good writers or consistently having
something interesting to say, or both. Then there
are the posts I read reluctantly, with my finger
poised over the Next key at all times, for the same
"track record" reason. Suffice it to say that your
posts are in the former category.

> To me, posting here HAS to be about creativity.  

It doesn't *have* to be, cf. most of Usenet. :-)

> I just have too deep a certainty about my own confusions to 
> pose as a teacher -- though indeed, most jyotishis told me 
> I was destined to be one. 

Same here, on both fronts. Plus, I've spent too 
much of my life being a teacher while feeling
this way to ever want to do it again. If I have
anything of value to say, it'll be in my writing.
You ain't gonna ever find me giving darshan any-
where. :-)

> I read the writings of the world class brains out there in 
> the real world, and I'm panting to keep up. Try reading 
> Thomas Aquinas about consciousnessit'll test you as 
> much as that Science of Being and Art of Living chapter 
> about "when consciousness becomes conscious." And, as much 
> as I could get an A+ on my Advaita final exam, I just
> don't have the intellectual chops to produce something 
> that's bankable guru spew.

Given what's become of many who do have those 
chops, you might consider yourself fortunate. :-)

> But I do have the ability to sing of my perspectives, and 
> that's a valid and authoritative and legitimate expression, 
> cuz, who else is inside my head, eh?  So that's my field of 
> expertise -- I'm the expert on the hilarity of Edg's lack 
> of ability to do anything extremely well.

LOL. I can identify fully. I once got tasked with
writing a book about my adventures with a particular
spiritual teacher, and the result was writer's block
that lasted almost a decade. What finally broke it
was realizing that the only way I could do justice 
to the task of writing about what it's like to study
with an interesting spiritual teacher is to *not*
write about him, to make it a "seeker's tale," very
subjective -- *my* experience along the Way.

> Oh, read Ramana Maharshi or Nisargadatta. Those two guys 
> covered it all with such simple statements. What more could 
> anyone do? Don't look at me! Comparatively, I'm the kid in 
> the back of the class shooting spit wads and burping when 
> the teacher is writing on the blackboard. 

I was the kid in English class ignoring what the 
teacher said and writing my own stories.

> I'm only having funzies. I don't have serious goals when 
> all the knowledge is really right there in the books.  

Or inside each of us, as close as closing our eyes
and opening our minds.

> Sigh. In India, they say, "Knowledge in the books stays 
> in the books."  
> 
> And if ever there was a place where horses were brought 
> to drink but refuse to do so, it's here, and so teaching 
> anyone or converting anyone or even just slightly 
> influencing anyone posting here is purdy durned nigh on 
> to impossible.  

Not to mention none of my damned business. Like you,
I just throw out ideas to play with them, like you
throw spaghetti against the wall to see if it's
"done" yet.

> The readers here are very practiced and bristling, and I 
> don't have the desire to get into a fist fight here, so 
> I'm a trollish gadfly to some extent in that I'm just 
> getting my ego's hunger for attention assuaged.  

Or just having fun. Which may be the same thing. :-)

> I just haven't wanted to correct anyone's mistakes -- 
> not when I'd have to throw a stone from my glass
> house at them.

Not to mention that to "correct someone's mistake,"
one has to assume that one is in a state of conscious-
ness from which one can tell what is a mistake. :-)

> That's one of the best things about FFlife:  you can be 
> sure that only a certain low level of bullshit can get 
> past the eyes here, otherwise one is crisped in short 
> order. I barely escaped alive from telling you folks 
> about paying for a soldier's meal -- it was so ladened 
> with my own hubris, so I'm ducking and weaving, and it 
> keeps me honest enough to have a modicum of integrity 
> when I write.

Yup. But it was a good story, and told with style.

> All my life I've been mostly a guarded personality that 
> took only known risks, but here, I've been letting myself 
> laugh at me for all the ridiculousness, and it's been 
> freeing to just be honest instead of creating a very 
> clever mask.  

Indeed. I suspect that only those who never drop
their masks tend to see those who are just having
fun with their writin

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narada, a cup of tea and, please, don't spill a drop

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really -- It's A
No-Brainer.
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 12:11 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narada, a cup of tea and, please, don't
spill a drop

 

 

Somehow, it seems like there's a complaint here, though I can't seem to
match the accuracy, nor the relevance of such to my 'two' posts about
searching for a story, one that there's a high likelihood someone in this
forum can help with, in a 'mature' and diplomatic way, as it seems that
Marek has endeavored to do and be, with 'one' post. 

 

Have there been phantom posts that I am unaware of that have continued a
conversation between Marek and myself that, it seems, neither Marek nor I
are aware of?  Three posts, in search of an accurate rendering of a humanly
relevant story conveying conscientious, not contentious, attention to
furthering human evolution, an imperative in defining what it means to be,
and the deservedness of being considered 'human' at all.  What's not being
understood here, among carbon-based entities priveledge to walk among us in
the guise of humans? 

 

Actually, New Morning was saying that although you and Marek hadn't exceeded
your posting quota, he wouldn't mind if you did, because it was a meaningful
conversation. I agree with him, and that's the way FFL used to be, except
for one or two obsessive posters. With the AMT influx, the big time
bickering and Spraig overposting got out of hand. Hence, the current posting
limit, an unfortunate necessity.

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Bush is obviously responsible!

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You
Think -- Really -- It's A No-Brainer." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, 
> the most valuable thing to cultivate and convey to 
> others is a moral conscience. 

Or the illusion thereof. It is truly "valuable"
in that people will pay almost anything for it.

> Only such persons deserve to lead others, in any 
> capacity. Anything less is a menace to society.

As a corollary, I would say that anyone who 
suggests that they *are* such a person with a 
"moral conscience" and who thus deserves to 
lead others is almost by definition unqualified
to do so. It's a quandary. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Narada, a cup of tea and, please, don't spill a drop

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Samadhi Is Much Closer Than 
You Think -- Really -- It's A No-Brainer." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Somehow, it seems like there's a complaint here,

If you're addressing me, no complaint from me
whatsoever. I was talking about a much larger
picture. new morning was as well, I think.



 though I can't seem to
> match the accuracy, nor the relevance of such to my 'two' posts 
about
> searching for a story, one that there's a high likelihood someone 
in this
> forum can help with, in a 'mature' and diplomatic way, as it seems 
that
> Marek has endeavored to do and be, with 'one' post.
> 
> Have there been phantom posts that I am unaware of that have 
continued a
> conversation between Marek and myself that, it seems, neither Marek 
nor I
> are aware of?  Three posts, in search of an accurate rendering of a 
humanly
> relevant story conveying conscientious, not contentious, attention 
to
> furthering human evolution, an imperative in defining what it means 
to be,
> and the deservedness of being considered 'human' at all.  What's 
not being
> understood here, among carbon-based entities priveledge to walk 
among us in
> the guise of humans?
> 
> *To jeopardize the unity of the human race by creating factions is 
not the
> purpose of Dharma. Those who encourage vested interests survive on 
the
> mental weaknesses of people and their dissensions, and that is why 
they are
> scared of the spread of the ideals of Dharma and exhibit their 
intolerance
> towards it in all sorts of immoral ways, such as abuse, false 
propaganda and
> lies. *
> 
> *I want every person to be complete in themselves.  Your himsa has 
no place
> in my mission.
> *
> *
> * --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning
>  If Marek and DharmaMitra want to go on all night
> telling nice puranic stories, 10-20 posts each,
> they have my vote.
> Sometimes the grahas grab you, the sun shines in
> your heart a certain way, one is in the zone with
> a particular idea. I say when that happens -- go
> for it. Pursue the thought and dialogue for all
> to enjoy. A strict anal five post a day limit
> squeezes the life out of such moments. And
> squeezes the life out of FFL.
> 
> 
> On 5/1/07, authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Rick and most of the others here *like* it that
> way, nice and bland, minimal spontaneity, minimal
> interaction, a showcase for those who like to do
> set pieces, a little of this, a little of that,
> move on to the next.  Criticism of MMY and the
> TMO along party lines; a bit of tame dissent is
> OK here and there, as long as it doesn't get in
> anybody's face. Above all, keep it *safe*. Avoid
> disturbance at all costs.
> 
> >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narada, a cup of tea and, please, don't spill a drop

[Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really -- It's A No-Brainer.]

Somehow, it seems like there's a complaint here, though I can't seem to
match the accuracy, nor the relevance of such to my 'two' posts about
searching for a story, one that there's a high likelihood someone in this
forum can help with, in a 'mature' and diplomatic way, as it seems that
Marek has endeavored to do and be, with 'one' post.

Have there been phantom posts that I am unaware of that have continued a
conversation between Marek and myself that, it seems, neither Marek nor I
are aware of?  Three posts, in search of an accurate rendering of a humanly
relevant story conveying conscientious, not contentious, attention to
furthering human evolution, an imperative in defining what it means to be,
and the deservedness of being considered 'human' at all.  What's not being
understood here, among carbon-based entities priveledge to walk among us in
the guise of humans?

*To jeopardize the unity of the human race by creating factions is not the
purpose of Dharma. Those who encourage vested interests survive on the
mental weaknesses of people and their dissensions, and that is why they are
scared of the spread of the ideals of Dharma and exhibit their intolerance
towards it in all sorts of immoral ways, such as abuse, false propaganda and
lies. *

*I want every person to be complete in themselves.  Your himsa has no place
in my mission.
*
*
* --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If Marek and DharmaMitra want to go on all night
telling nice puranic stories, 10-20 posts each,
they have my vote.
Sometimes the grahas grab you, the sun shines in
your heart a certain way, one is in the zone with
a particular idea. I say when that happens -- go
for it. Pursue the thought and dialogue for all
to enjoy. A strict anal five post a day limit
squeezes the life out of such moments. And
squeezes the life out of FFL.


On 5/1/07, authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Rick and most of the others here *like* it that
way, nice and bland, minimal spontaneity, minimal
interaction, a showcase for those who like to do
set pieces, a little of this, a little of that,
move on to the next.  Criticism of MMY and the
TMO along party lines; a bit of tame dissent is
OK here and there, as long as it doesn't get in
anybody's face. Above all, keep it *safe*. Avoid
disturbance at all costs.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh What a Lovely Mess!

[Bhairitu]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
> In a message dated 4/29/07 5:23:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> I guess  that was the *second* time in history that fire melted steel,  Rosie.
>   
>>
>>        **_http://www.aol.http_ 
>> 
> (http://www.aol.com./) 
>   
>>  
>> 
> And pray tell what was the first time?
>
>
>
>
> World Trade center, at least according to Rosie on the  View.
>
>
>
> ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
>
>   
The WTC was most likely brought down by thermite.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Narada, a cup of tea and, please, don't spi

[authfriend]

--- In 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Judy writes:
> Rick and most of the others here *like* it that
> way, nice and bland, minimal spontaneity, minimal
> interaction, a showcase for those who like to do
> set pieces, a little of this, a little of that,
> move on to the next.  Criticism of MMY and the
> TMO along party lines; a bit of tame dissent is
> OK here and there, as long as it doesn't get in
> anybody's face. Above all, keep it *safe*. Avoid
> disturbance at all costs.
> 
> TomT:
> Way better than the 50+ posts a day from you on the subject of

I never made anywhere near that many posts
per day on *any* subject, liar.

 he said
> she said 14 lifetimes ago and Judy has the quotes to prove it.

Sorry, same lifetime. Barry's the one who tries
to make points based on his alleged past lives.

Barry is also the one who *began* this bickering
and has relentlessly perpetuated it, but God forbid
you should cast any aspersions on him.

 You
> lost your soapbox and no amount of whining or bitching (AKA as
> harrassing)is going to bring it back.

As usual, you don't know what you're talking about.
I'm not "whining" about losing a soapbox; I've asked
Rick twice now, explicitly, to put Barry and me on
moderation to keep him under the kind of restraint
he is obviously unable to exercise himself, because
the five-post limit hasn't, and won't, do the trick.

Of course I wasn't talking about a lack of opportunity
to "harass" (which, BTW, is what you're doing now to
me and have for quite some time, hypocrite).

What I'm regretting is the decline in vibrant, dynamic,
intellectually challenging conversation since the
five-post limit was imposed.
 
> The present volume is readable
> and enjoyable for those of us who have a life beyond this forum.

Yes indeed, just as I said:

Rick and most of the others here *like* it that
way, nice and bland, minimal spontaneity, minimal
interaction, a showcase for those who like to do
set pieces, a little of this, a little of that,
move on to the next.  Criticism of MMY and the
TMO along party lines; a bit of tame dissent is
OK here and there, as long as it doesn't get in
anybody's face. Above all, keep it *safe*. Avoid
disturbance at all costs.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Narada, a cup of tea and, please, don't spi

[tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis]

Judy writes:
Rick and most of the others here *like* it that
way, nice and bland, minimal spontaneity, minimal
interaction, a showcase for those who like to do
set pieces, a little of this, a little of that,
move on to the next.  Criticism of MMY and the
TMO along party lines; a bit of tame dissent is
OK here and there, as long as it doesn't get in
anybody's face. Above all, keep it *safe*. Avoid
disturbance at all costs.

TomT:
Way better than the 50+ posts a day from you on the subject of he said
she said 14 lifetimes ago and Judy has the quotes to prove it. You
lost your soapbox and no amount of whining or bitching (AKA as
harrassing)is going to bring it back. The present volume is readable
and enjoyable for those of us who have a life beyond this forum.

[FairfieldLife] Note to Shemp

[Rick Archer]

We approved 5 posts this morning which you had sent, over the limit,
yesterday. So you're maxed out for the day. The things you're posting now
won't be approved 'till tomorrow.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pity, the Poor Pundits

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of feste37
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:27 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pity, the Poor Pundits

 

One thing's for sure: the pundits don't need your pity. Spare that for
people 
whose chief interest is spreading rumors designed to discredit the TMO. 

The TMO discredits itself through its unethical tactics. The culture of
secrecy shrouding it all these years was established to hide some pretty
damning secrets. We’re not trying to spread rumors here. Just to get to the
truth. That truth makes TBs squirm because it clashes with their naïve,
idealistic notions of MMY and the TMO.

[FairfieldLife] God machine

[claudiouk]

http://www.slate.com/id/2165004/
How to wire your brain for religious ecstasy. By John Horgan
Posted Thursday, April 26, 2007, at 7:19 AM ET 

Eight years ago, I flew to Laurentian University in Midwestern Canada 
to test a gadget that some journalists called the "God machine." The 
device consisted of computer-controlled solenoids that fit over the 
skull and stimulate the brain with electromagnetic pulses. Its 
inventor, neuroscientist Michael Persinger, claimed that it could 
induce mystical experiences, including, as Wired magazine put it, 
visions of "Jesus, the Virgin Mary, Mohammed, the Sky Spirit." 

I sat in a ratty armchair in a soundproof chamber and pulled the God 
machine onto my head as, outside the chamber, a graduate student 
tapped a computer keyboard. As he bombarded my brain with 
electromagnetic bursts patterned after brain waves of epileptics in 
the throes of religious visions, I waited for God or even a minor 
deity or demon to appear—in vain. Persinger told me later that the 
device doesn't work on skeptics, implying that it "works" merely by 
exploiting subjects' suggestibility. 

Persinger is one of the more colorful characters in the fast-growing, 
flakey field of neurotheology, which studies what is arguably the 
most complex manifestation—spirituality—of the most complex 
phenomenon—the human brain—known to science. Given that brain 
researchers have no idea how I conceived and typed this sentence, I 
doubt they will ever account for religious experiences in all their 
vast diversity and subtlety. Nor will they solve the riddle of 
whether God actually exists or is a figment of our evolved 
imaginations, like unicorns or superstrings. Neurotheology may 
nonetheless have a profound social impact, by yielding more potent, 
reliable methods of inducing spiritual experiences.

Surveys suggest that only about one in three people has ever had a 
mystical experience, defined by one poll as the sensation of "a 
powerful spiritual force that seemed to lift you out of yourself." 
Humans have long sought such experiences through meditation, yoga, 
prayer, guru-worship, fasting, and flagellation, but these methods 
are unreliable, notes James Austin, author of Zen and the Brain, one 
of the best books on neurotheology. Austin hopes that neurotheology 
will eventually yield much more potent, precise methods of inducing 
transcendent experiences, from fleeting feelings of connectedness all 
the way up to "the full moon of enlightenment." Persinger's God 
machine may not have done much for me, but here's a brief status 
report on four mystical technologies with potential:

Mystical Brain Chips

In the 1950s, Canadian neurosurgeon Wilder Penfield, while preparing 
epileptic patients for surgery, stimulated their exposed brains with 
electrodes. Some patients heard voices or music and saw apparitions 
when their temporal lobes were stimulated. Upon learning about 
Penfield's experiments, Aldous Huxley wrote: "Is there, one wonders, 
some area in the brain from which the probing electrode could elicit 
Blake's Cherubim?"

One still wonders. A Swiss team recently induced out-of-body 
experiences in an epileptic patient about to undergo surgery by 
stimulating her right angular gyrus, which underpins spatial 
awareness. Other groups have shown that implanted electrodes can 
trigger euphoria, and in fact they are now being tested as treatments 
for severe depression (as well as paralysis, tremors, and epilepsy). 
In principle, implants would provide the most precise, powerful means 
of inducing religious ecstasy. Indeed, self-described "Wireheads" 
look forward to the day when these devices will vanquish mental 
suffering and deliver ecstasy on demand. But for now, this technology—
which requires inserting wires into the brain through holes drilled 
in the skull—remains too risky for all but the most desperate 
patients. 

Magic Wands

Transcranial magnetic stimulation, or TMS, is noninvasive and hence 
safer and easier to test than implants. Researchers have reported 
success in treating depression and other disorders with this method, 
which often employs electromagnetic "wands" as well as headsets. 
Persinger insists that TMS, properly used, can also induce intense 
mystical experiences.

A group at Uppsala University has tried and failed to replicate 
Persinger's results in a controlled, double-blind experiment. Todd 
Murphy, a neuroscientist who has worked with Persinger, is 
nonetheless marketing a version of the God machine called 
the "Shakti" (a Hindu term for divinity), which according to Murphy's 
Web site "uses magnetic fields to create altered states."

Tweaking the God Gene

The work of Dean Hamer, a geneticist at the National Cancer 
Institute, raises the prospect of genetically engineered mystics. 
Hamer claims to have found a gene associated with "self-
transcendence" or "spirituality" in a group of 1,000 subjects who 
filled out surveys that probed their beliefs in God, ESP, and s

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pity the Poor Pundits

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of off_world_beings
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:17 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pity the Poor Pundits

 

I suspect the loan indentured story to be more made-up unverifiable 
anti-TM propaganda, but if someone credible investigates it, then it 
would be interesting. 

The loan was for a SV house that each pundit was obligated to have built for
his family. I don't know whether that means his own wife and kids, his
parents, or what. I'll find out.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of boo_lives
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 8:36 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 ]
> On Behalf Of Peter
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 10:40 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 

> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
> 
> 
> 
> > Creepy? Very. Cross him at your peril. The core of
> > the movement mafia.
> 
Something funny - you used to see Dr. Girish Varma listed as an
officer on almost all of the tmo's official filings (along with the
other nephew and the usual names like Bevan etc), but recently his
name has been dropped from many of them, though there's now a Dr.
Girish Momaya listed. Same guy? Why the name change?

I'm pretty sure that's a different guy. I heard of him years ago and used to
get the two confused. Probably Girish I a common name.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pity the Poor Pundits

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "george_deforest" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > > Wow.
> > > 
> > > This is potentially a time bomb...and the key word here 
> > > is "indentured".  Because "indentured servitude" is close to 
if 
> not 
> > > on a par with "slavery", which is illegal in most parts of the 
> world 
> > > (in the U.S., anyway).
> > > there are specific laws that seem to prohibit the kind of 
activity
> > > described above by Rick Archer and, if true, it is a 
> > > veritable scandal in the making.
> > > 
> > > I can see the headline now: indentured slavery alive and well 
in 
> the 
> > > cornfields of Iowa...
> > > 
> > > ...or...
> > > 
> > > The Maharishi enslaves Indian serfs; confines them like cattle.
> > 
> > not only is this a potential scandal with bad publicity;
> > it is also, IMO a great sin.
> > 
> > are not these pandit boys all of the highest brahmin cast,
> > and doing "gods work" (ie, "nature support")?
> > 
> > they if anyone deserve respectful treatment, let alone 
> > freedom from outright abuse. if these rumors are true, 
> > shame on those responsible! the idealist in me is shocked!
> > i hope these kind of stories turn out to be just
> > ill founded rumors, or misunderstandings.
> 
> Who paid for their airfare, the room and board, their clothing and 
> education ? If they are let free to roam around they'll soon 
> disappear, smitten by the markedforces, with the result that 
> superadiance will go down. Not to mention that the american 
> authorities hardly will let more Pundits into america. Is that 
what 
> you want ? Grow up, don't let the fool in you be "shocked".
>  
> It boils down to the same thing over and over again; to be a 
follower 
> of Maharishi is not for the fainthearted idealists but for those 
who 
> are seriously wanting to make sacrifises for growth on a difficult 
> and somewhat lonely path. If you are not willing to do that; jump 
the 
> ship.
> 
> I know of groups in your country who are working very hard to make 
> the Pundit-project a failure.
> Don't be a part of their group Mr !>>


Good points. Purusha in India are not allowed to roam around freely, 
and they accept that. Why should pundits in America be any 
different? In fact, pundits in America are at a very high risk of 
being in danger if they wander off.

I suspect the loan indentured story to be more made-up unverifiable 
anti-TM propaganda, but if someone credible investigates it, then it 
would be interesting. So far no-one credible has come forth, so 
until then the anti-Tm propaganda will continue for years. 
Conspiracy theories are what keep some people from fading away into 
a lonely death.

OffWorld

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of claudiouk
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:56 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

 

"Dr Girish Chandra Varma, Director-General of the Maharishi World 
Capital of Peace at the Brahmasthan of India, performs Vedic Puja to 
inaugurate Raam Nomi, Brahmasthan of India, 27-29 March 2007"

I thought it was only proper pandits who were supposed to do Vedic 
pujas etc.. Is Girish a Brahmin, where MMY is not?

Maybe he's just doing a plain vanilla TM puja. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pity, the Poor Pundits

[feste37]

One thing's for sure: the pundits don't need your pity. Spare that for people 
whose chief interest is spreading rumors designed to discredit the TMO. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> What say a true-believer here? Like our friend, Feste37 here, 
> defender that could shed light and bring some transparency to this?  
> 
> How about check on this, and get back to us, a little quicker than 
> Guidestar can report what is going on here in FF?  The movement don't 
> have no web-link to their finacial numbers?  MUM?  Like, money in and 
> money out?
> 
> -Gov Doug in FF
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Some pundit news from a well-informed inside source:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > . The pundits were not given a clear idea of what their 
> living
> > conditions here would be. They were not told they would be 
> cloistered behind
> > fences. They understood that they would be free to move about and 
> see new
> > things here. Most of them are very frustrated and stir-crazy in 
> their
> > confinement.
> > 
> > . The tuberculosis rumors are true. I don't know how many 
> are
> > infected, but anyone who has had contact with the pundits has been 
> tested.
> > 
> > . In his sales pitch to lure them here, Bob "Raja" Wynne 
> promised
> > them a $300 monthly stipend, but they are only getting $30.
> > 
> > . The pundits are indentured to the TMO for at least 20 
> years. They
> > were all obligated to take out loans to help build some SV 
> structure. It's
> > not clear to me what the structure is. Perhaps their living and 
> chanting
> > facility in India. I'll find out. Anyway, as long as they are 
> punditing, the
> > movement covers the payments, but if they leave, they have to cover 
> them. If
> > they don't Anand and Prakash Srivastava sic the police on them. This
> > happened to the ex-pundit from whom I got this information.
> > 
> > . This pundit also said that the Srivastavas are very rich 
> and
> > basically say to MMY, "Look, you're very old. Don't worry about 
> these
> > financial matters. We'll take care of them."
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > On a related note, I'm always arguing that MMY micromanages the 
> movement and
> > no one tells him what to do. I think that generally this is the 
> case, but I
> > can think of one incident which refutes this. When the Natural Law 
> Party was
> > doing its thing, John Gray donated $50,000. He was promptly invited 
> to come
> > to Vlodrop. When he got there, there was a tussle between Bevan and 
> Hagelin,
> > Bevan arguing that John wrote "inappropriate" books and shouldn't be
> > permitted to meet with Maharishi and Hagelin arguing that the books 
> helped
> > people and that he should meet with him. Apparently MMY let the two 
> of them
> > work out the issue, although I've often seen him do that and then 
> in the
> > end, do what he wanted to do anyway. A compromise was reached in 
> which John
> > talked with MMY on the phone. I don't know whether that reflected 
> MMY's
> > desire or not. In the conversation, MMY tried to recruit John to do 
> stuff
> > for the movement, but John declined, saying he liked the way his 
> life was
> > going.
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pity, the Poor Pundits

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/1/2007 8:10:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
We, really want angry bitter men doing yagya? Sounds dangerous on 
many  levels of intention.

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Some pundit news from a  well-informed inside source:
> 
> 
> 
> . The pundits  were not given a clear idea of what their 
living
> conditions here  would be. They were not told they would be 
cloistered behind
>  fences. They understood that they would be free to move about and 
see  new
> things here. Most of them are very frustrated and stir-crazy in  
their
> confinement.
> 
> . The tuberculosis rumors are  true. I don't know how many 
are
> infected, but anyone who has had  contact with the pundits has been 
tested.
> 
> . In his sales  pitch to lure them here, Bob "Raja" Wynne 
promised
> them a $300  monthly stipend, but they are only getting $30.
> 
> . The pundits  are indentured to the TMO for at least 20 
years. They
> were all  obligated to take out loans to help build some SV 
structure. It's
>  not clear to me what the structure is. Perhaps their living and  
chanting
> facility in India. I'll find out. Anyway, as long as they  are 
punditing, the
> movement covers the payments, but if they  leave, they have to cover 
them. If
> they don't Anand and Prakash  Srivastava sic the police on them. This
> happened to the ex-pundit from  whom I got this information.
> 
> . This pundit also said that the  Srivastavas are very rich 
and
> basically say to MMY, "Look, you're  very old. Don't worry about 
these
> financial matters. We'll take  care of them."
> 
> 
> 
> On a related note, I'm  always arguing that MMY micromanages the 
movement and
> no one tells  him what to do. I think that generally this is the 
case, but I
> can  think of one incident which refutes this. When the Natural Law 
Party  was
> doing its thing, John Gray donated $50,000. He was promptly  invited 
to come
> to Vlodrop. When he got there, there was a tussle  between Bevan and 
Hagelin,
> Bevan arguing that John wrote  "inappropriate" books and shouldn't be
> permitted to meet with  Maharishi and Hagelin arguing that the books 
helped
> people and  that he should meet with him. Apparently MMY let the two 
of them
>  work out the issue, although I've often seen him do that and then 
in  the
> end, do what he wanted to do anyway. A compromise was reached in  
which John
> talked with MMY on the phone. I don't know whether that  reflected 
MMY's
> desire or not. In the conversation, MMY tried to  recruit John to do 
stuff
> for the movement, but John declined,  saying he liked the way his 
life was
> going. 
> What a circus act. Can you imagine what will happen when MMY passes  over 
in July or August. A holy ego war is about to happen in the TMO. The  pundits 
should not be lied too in regards to the agreements made and this will  
backfire on the TMO and MMY. Lsoma. 
>


 


 



** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Narada, a cup of tea and, please, don't spill a drop

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> If Marek and DharmaMitra want to go on all night telling nice 
puranic
> stories, 10-20 posts each, they have my vote. 
> 
> Sometimes the grahas grab you, the sun shines in your heart a
> certain way, one is in the zone with a particular idea. I say
> when that happens -- go for it. Pursue the thought and dialogue
> for all to enjoy. A strict anal five post a day limit squeezes
> the life out of such moments. And squeezes the life out of FFL.

Rick and most of the others here *like* it that
way, nice and bland, minimal spontaneity, minimal
interaction, a showcase for those who like to do
set pieces, a little of this, a little of that,
move on to the next.  Criticism of MMY and the
TMO along party lines; a bit of tame dissent is
OK here and there, as long as it doesn't get in
anybody's face. Above all, keep it *safe*. Avoid
disturbance at all costs.

[FairfieldLife] Re: I found a new one!

[curtisdeltablues]

This thread rocks!  There are so many designations of specialness.

Purusha "inactive wiener, kinky loin cloths."

Mother Divine "inactive uh,... oh you get the point!  Must be fun
explaining to the relatives the difference between 'Mother Divine' and
'Spinster' on holidays."

Rising Citizen "hasn't forked over the dough yet, Washes pots and pans
in movement facilities."

Citizen "too weird for your non meditating friends but no movement
status.  You need to move the foam up to the 4th floor while we
Governors do our extra long program."

Rising Governor "You're gunna be working around the center a lot and
you better be smil'n."

Governor "Now I'm at the top, doh!  Executive governors!"

Minister " the course cost a lot but it gave you zero pull afterwards,
sorry."

Raja "Silly hat silly grin, you are off your meds again aren't you?"


I think my favorite is "His Divinity" which refers to Guru Dev's
nature as beyond human.  How far beyond human you may ask?  Whip up a
batch and find out!


Heritage Recipe
Aunt Shirley's Divine Divinity
Ingredients:

2-1/2 cups sugar
1/2 cup corn syrup
1/2 cup water
2 egg whites
1 teaspoon vanilla
walnuts (optional)

Prepare waxed paper first. (You'll need to work fast when dropping
divinity onto buttered waxed paper.) Cook sugar, corn syrup, and water
until candy thermometer reads 230 degrees. While cooking syrup, whip
egg whites. Pour 1/2 of the syrup into egg whites. Let remaining syrup
boil to 250 degrees and then pour into mixture. Beat until dull. Add
vanilla. Add walnuts if desired. Drop on paper quickly in desired
size; mixture will set up fast! Store in sealable container.

Yields: approximately 2 dozen



Now aren't we all feeling a little Spacil!






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Just when I thought that the TMO had exhausted all the possible 
> titles in the English language, I just came across a new one: "His 
> Highness".
> 
> Apparently, there's a fellow running the show in ScorpionLand (the 
> country, not the theme park) with the Christian name of "Peter 
> Warburton" (which is funny enough in itself) who gets to put not 
> only "His Highness" in front of his name but also "Dr.":
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2z3gar
> 
> The following is not an exhaustive list but just off the top of my 
> head, here are as many TMO titles as I can think of:
> 
> His Holiness
> His Excellency
> His Highness
> Governor
> Initiator
> King
> Doctor
> Expert
> 
> And I'm quite sure there's a pecking order to the whole thing as 
> well.  Hey, even the English aristocracy's got an hierarchy to it.  
> For example, a "Sir" is lower than a "Lord", but a "Baron" is higher 
> than a "Lord" and a "King" is higher than an "Earl", etc.
> 
> Can you think of any more TMO titles I may have missed?
> 
> Try listing as many as you can...
> 
> FIRST PRIZE IS A 2008 CORVETTE STINGRAY!
> 
> ...and for extra bonus points, put them in hierarchical order!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[boo_lives]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Peter
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 10:40 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
> 
>  
> 
> > Creepy? Very. Cross him at your peril. The core of
> > the movement mafia.
> 
Something funny - you used to see Dr. Girish Varma listed as an
officer on almost all of the tmo's official filings (along with the
other nephew and the usual names like Bevan etc), but recently his
name has been dropped from many of them, though there's now a Dr.
Girish Momaya listed.  Same guy?  Why the name change?

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[claudiouk]

"Dr Girish Chandra Varma, Director-General of the Maharishi World 
Capital of Peace at the Brahmasthan of India, performs Vedic Puja to 
inaugurate Raam Nomi, Brahmasthan of India, 27-29 March 2007"

I thought it was only proper pandits who were supposed to do Vedic 
pujas etc.. Is Girish a Brahmin, where MMY is not?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> >wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Is this ...
> > > 
> > > http://tinyurl.com/2pgkuf 
> > > 
> > > ... the same guy as this:
> > > 
> > > http://tinyurl.com/2l72eu 
> > > 
> > > If so, he's one creepy bastard!  I think he fashions himself a 
> > Maharishi
> > > and can't wait for his uncle to die so that he can take a shot 
at
> > > sitting on the deer skin.
> > > 
> > > Anyone getting a similar vibe?
> > 
> > 
> > Boys and girls: can you say..."scism"?
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Girish! Girish! Girish! If Maharishi can't do it, Girishji can!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: "The best IT brains in the world"...

[lurkernomore20002000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
snip

> Also, did you know that Girish Varma is a "great visionary".

snip

I suppose someone knows what the succession plan is for TMO, but you 
can be sure this guy is going be in the thick of it, either as the 
designated heir, or a usurper.  If George Bush was "born on third base 
and thought he hit a triple", I can't imagine what this guy thinks.  
Maybe that MMY was John the Baptist for Girish.

lurk 
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[dhamiltony2k5]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Is this ...
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/2pgkuf 
> > 
> > ... the same guy as this:
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/2l72eu 
> > 
> > If so, he's one creepy bastard!  I think he fashions himself a 
> Maharishi
> > and can't wait for his uncle to die so that he can take a shot at
> > sitting on the deer skin.
> > 
> > Anyone getting a similar vibe?
> 
> 
> Boys and girls: can you say..."scism"?
>



Girish! Girish! Girish! If Maharishi can't do it, Girishji can!

[FairfieldLife] Pity, the Poor Pundits

[dhamiltony2k5]

We, really want angry bitter men doing yagya?  Sounds dangerous on 
many levels of intention.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Some pundit news from a well-informed inside source:
> 
>  
> 
> . The pundits were not given a clear idea of what their 
living
> conditions here would be. They were not told they would be 
cloistered behind
> fences. They understood that they would be free to move about and 
see new
> things here. Most of them are very frustrated and stir-crazy in 
their
> confinement.
> 
> . The tuberculosis rumors are true. I don't know how many 
are
> infected, but anyone who has had contact with the pundits has been 
tested.
> 
> . In his sales pitch to lure them here, Bob "Raja" Wynne 
promised
> them a $300 monthly stipend, but they are only getting $30.
> 
> . The pundits are indentured to the TMO for at least 20 
years. They
> were all obligated to take out loans to help build some SV 
structure. It's
> not clear to me what the structure is. Perhaps their living and 
chanting
> facility in India. I'll find out. Anyway, as long as they are 
punditing, the
> movement covers the payments, but if they leave, they have to cover 
them. If
> they don't Anand and Prakash Srivastava sic the police on them. This
> happened to the ex-pundit from whom I got this information.
> 
> . This pundit also said that the Srivastavas are very rich 
and
> basically say to MMY, "Look, you're very old. Don't worry about 
these
> financial matters. We'll take care of them."
> 
>  
> 
> On a related note, I'm always arguing that MMY micromanages the 
movement and
> no one tells him what to do. I think that generally this is the 
case, but I
> can think of one incident which refutes this. When the Natural Law 
Party was
> doing its thing, John Gray donated $50,000. He was promptly invited 
to come
> to Vlodrop. When he got there, there was a tussle between Bevan and 
Hagelin,
> Bevan arguing that John wrote "inappropriate" books and shouldn't be
> permitted to meet with Maharishi and Hagelin arguing that the books 
helped
> people and that he should meet with him. Apparently MMY let the two 
of them
> work out the issue, although I've often seen him do that and then 
in the
> end, do what he wanted to do anyway. A compromise was reached in 
which John
> talked with MMY on the phone. I don't know whether that reflected 
MMY's
> desire or not. In the conversation, MMY tried to recruit John to do 
stuff
> for the movement, but John declined, saying he liked the way his 
life was
> going.
>

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BN - Bliss Ninny or Bliss Nazi
CC - Cosmic Consciousness
GC - God Consciousness
MMY - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
POV - Point of View
SBS - Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Maharishi's master
SCI – Science of Creative Intelligence
SSRS - Sri Sri Ravi Shankar (Pundit-ji)
SV - Stpathya Ved (Vedic Architecture)
TB - True Believer (in TM doctrines)
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TMO - The Transcendental Meditation organization
TTC – TM Teacher Training Course
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[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> Is this ...
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2pgkuf 
> 
> ... the same guy as this:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2l72eu 
> 
> If so, he's one creepy bastard!  I think he fashions himself a 
Maharishi
> and can't wait for his uncle to die so that he can take a shot at
> sitting on the deer skin.
> 
> Anyone getting a similar vibe?


Boys and girls: can you say..."scism"?

[FairfieldLife] David Lynch and TM make Drudge Report

[shempmcgurk]

http://tinyurl.com/3cx4ur

[FairfieldLife] I found a new one!

[shempmcgurk]

Just when I thought that the TMO had exhausted all the possible 
titles in the English language, I just came across a new one: "His 
Highness".

Apparently, there's a fellow running the show in ScorpionLand (the 
country, not the theme park) with the Christian name of "Peter 
Warburton" (which is funny enough in itself) who gets to put not 
only "His Highness" in front of his name but also "Dr.":

http://tinyurl.com/2z3gar

The following is not an exhaustive list but just off the top of my 
head, here are as many TMO titles as I can think of:

His Holiness
His Excellency
His Highness
Governor
Initiator
King
Doctor
Expert

And I'm quite sure there's a pecking order to the whole thing as 
well.  Hey, even the English aristocracy's got an hierarchy to it.  
For example, a "Sir" is lower than a "Lord", but a "Baron" is higher 
than a "Lord" and a "King" is higher than an "Earl", etc.

Can you think of any more TMO titles I may have missed?

Try listing as many as you can...

FIRST PRIZE IS A 2008 CORVETTE STINGRAY!

...and for extra bonus points, put them in hierarchical order!

[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Peter
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 10:40 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy
> 
>  
> 
> > Creepy? Very. Cross him at your peril. The core of
> > the movement mafia.
> 
> A chip off the old block: a beautiful, enlightened
> asura 
> 
> What makes you so sure about the two adjectives?


Every year, Forbes magazine includes Fidel Castro as being worth 
anywhere from $100 to $200 million.  Not necessarily because that 
amount of assets are in his name but because that is the portion of 
the Cuban economy in monetary terms from which he and his immediate 
family directly benefit.

I wonder how much Girish is worth?  $20 million?  $50 million?

[FairfieldLife] "The best IT brains in the world"...

[shempmcgurk]

...but they can't locate the spell check button.

Also, did you know that Girish Varma is a "great visionary".  Well, I 
suppose he must be the guy responsible for setting up the very 
lucrative slave-for-life indentured pundit program for the TMO.

A fiction writer couldn't come up with this crap.

Check out the spelling in the bottom paragraph:

http://tinyurl.com/2uf2z9

[FairfieldLife] (Don't) Pity the Poor Pundits(Please)-good vibrations/love and peace

[Robert Gimbel]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >
> >  
> > In a message dated 4/30/07 5:37:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > 
> > Who paid  for their airfare, the room and board, their clothing 
and 
> > education ? If  they are let free to roam around they'll soon 
> > disappear, smitten by the  markedforces, with the result that 
> > superadiance will go down. Not to  mention that the american 
> > authorities hardly will let more Pundits into  america. Is that 
> what 
> > you want ? Grow up, don't let the fool in you be  "shocked".
> > 
> > It boils down to the same thing over and over again; to be a  
> follower 
> > of Maharishi is not for fainthearted idealists but for those  who 
> > are seriously wanting growth on a difficult  
> > and somewhat lonely path. If you are not willing to do that; jump 
> the  
> > ship.
> > 
> > I know of groups in your country who are working very hard to  
make 
> > the Pundit-project a failure.
> > Don't be a part of their group Mr  !
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ummm you are joking... aren't you?   Plase.
> 
> Nope


Yes, how true it is, ask Mia;
Ask the Beatles; ask even Castro-
The Big M is no one to mess with.
And if you want to follow the Shiva path,
Well check out the picture sometime-
It's cold up there at the top, half too learn to keep yourself warm.
After all, Maharishi, lived in a cave for a time.
So, not for the faint of heart.
Those who are not willing to go where no man(or woman) has gone 
before.
Kind of like Captain Kirk, and the Starship Enterprise.
Hunting down and destroying evil and darkness, wherever it lurks.
Not for the faint-hearted.
This is true.
Maharishi is a Capricorn realist.
He has definitely left his mark on this planet.
>From astronauts, to physicists, to politicians to holy men, and 
woman, from the Beattles, to Mick Jagger, 
He's seen, and heard it all.
He's just the man, what can you say?
And so it goes.
> 
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pity the Poor Pundits

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 4/30/07 5:37:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Who paid  for their airfare, the room and board, their clothing and 
> education ? If  they are let free to roam around they'll soon 
> disappear, smitten by the  markedforces, with the result that 
> superadiance will go down. Not to  mention that the american 
> authorities hardly will let more Pundits into  america. Is that 
what 
> you want ? Grow up, don't let the fool in you be  "shocked".
> 
> It boils down to the same thing over and over again; to be a  
follower 
> of Maharishi is not for fainthearted idealists but for those  who 
> are seriously wanting growth on a difficult  
> and somewhat lonely path. If you are not willing to do that; jump 
the  
> ship.
> 
> I know of groups in your country who are working very hard to  make 
> the Pundit-project a failure.
> Don't be a part of their group Mr  !
> 
> 
> 
> Ummm you are joking... aren't you?   Plase.

Nope


>