[FairfieldLife] Re: Dualistic & Unitary "meditation"

2008-03-01 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "The observer and the observed create a dualistic > reality, while the aspirant's aim is to realize the Absolute > Truth. Here meditation ends, and the higher step of > contemplation helps one to realize that one's real self i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "itsstevemartin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Absolutely beautiful, > Thanks for the post. > Steve > *** http://www.yogiphotos.com/index.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: BushCo's $4 a gallon gas

2008-03-01 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > new.morning wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > >> new.morning wrote: > >> > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: [snip] > But it puts you in the same

[FairfieldLife] 'Don't count the Clintons's out...'

2008-03-01 Thread Robert
February 28, 2008, 6:14 pm Why I’m Afraid of the Clintons By Dan Schnur If it’s not the first rule of Republican politics, it should be: never, ever, ever underestimate anybody whose last name is Clinton. Not Bill, not Hillary. Not Chelsea, not even George. They’re very good at what they

[FairfieldLife] Re: BushCo's $4 a gallon gas

2008-03-01 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > shempmcgurk wrote: > > But, Barfitu, you and the Global Warming crowd are AGAINST wanton > > gasoline consumption. The higher the price of gas, the lower the > > consumption and the less emission of the evil carbon int

[FairfieldLife] 'In The Beginning was the Word...'

2008-03-01 Thread Robert
Word Vs. Action Word comes first, Action follows. And the intention of the word, of the desire, in most important of all Because, Purity of Intention: Gathers the means of fulfillment - Surrounding that purpose... - Never miss

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dualistic & Unitary "meditation"

2008-03-01 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 10:09 PM, matrixmonitor wrote: > > > -on Swami Rama from the Rick Cross website: > > > > Dr. Elmer Green says that he and his wife have heard from a number of > > women who said they were sexually explo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 5:01 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander > > wrote: > > > > > > a person in unity according to your understanding no > > > longer experiences life? My under

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander > > wrote: > > > > > > I didn't say it was of no value. I said I don't see > > > w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 9:04 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 6:58 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > Yeah, but you gotta live in a cave,

[FairfieldLife] Re: audio: Two mystical experiences by Governors after Maharishi's departure

2008-03-01 Thread george_deforest
havent you heard? the maharishi died last month. some course participants had some mystical experiences related to the death, and their loss; their experiences are pretty far out there, and you can download the recording and listen. >> PavlovsDog wrote: >> >> What are you talking about? >> >>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Editor: > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 8:59 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 8:02 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoog

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FF Directory, Active Spiritual Practice Groups

2008-03-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 1, 2008, at 8:23 PM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: Satsangs & coffee Great name for a documentary about FF. Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: audio: Two mystical experiences by Governors after Maharishi's departure

2008-03-01 Thread pavvlovs_dog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "george_deforest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > after Maharishi's departure>> What are you talking about? --PavlovsDog

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-01 Thread pavvlovs_dog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Long ago as a young adult I agreed with Freud in his saying: "Religion > is opium to the people.">> Have you ever tried Opium? I think Opium should be a Religion. --PavlovsDog

[FairfieldLife] Re: FF Directory, Active Spiritual Practice Groups

2008-03-01 Thread pavvlovs_dog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >, run your finger down this directory a moment. Really, it is > > not just a few people… > > > > A Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups in Fairfield: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/messa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mayan Calendar - 2012

2008-03-01 Thread pavvlovs_dog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > I posted this at another message board: > > > > I know little about 2012, but an idea came that I haven't seen > > in any reports I've read - few that t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dualistic & Unitary "meditation"

2008-03-01 Thread Vaj
On Mar 1, 2008, at 10:09 PM, matrixmonitor wrote: -on Swami Rama from the Rick Cross website: Dr. Elmer Green says that he and his wife have heard from a number of women who said they were sexually exploited by Swami Rama. "If someone is a saint, celibacy would be his normal condition," Dr. Gr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread Bhairitu
Stu wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I keep wondering why people here continue to intellectually masturbate >> over these states of consciousness. Once you are on your way down the >> road it doesn't matter. In my tradition the guru just

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread Vaj
On Mar 1, 2008, at 9:04 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 6:58 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > Yeah, but you gotta live in a cave, spend most of > > your time meditating, eat vegetarian, wear nothing > > but a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread Vaj
Dear Editor: On Mar 1, 2008, at 8:59 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 8:02 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 6:49 PM, itsstevemartin wrot

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dualistic & Unitary "meditation"

2008-03-01 Thread matrixmonitor
-on Swami Rama from the Rick Cross website: Dr. Elmer Green says that he and his wife have heard from a number of women who said they were sexually exploited by Swami Rama. "If someone is a saint, celibacy would be his normal condition," Dr. Green comments. "A lot of people have confused the si

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 8:04 PM, authfriend wrote: > > >> So you're saying MMY was a fraud, Judy? He hardly did any > >> of those things. > > > > Oh, gosh, Sal, you appear once again to have snipped > > the context. Isn

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 1, 2008, at 8:04 PM, authfriend wrote: So you're saying MMY was a fraud, Judy? He hardly did any of those things. Oh, gosh, Sal, you appear once again to have snipped the context. Isn't it funny how you keep doing that? I do it for your amusement, Judy. :) No, I wasn't saying anyth

[FairfieldLife] Dualistic & Unitary "meditation"

2008-03-01 Thread Vaj
"The observer and the observed create a dualistic reality, while the aspirant's aim is to realize the Absolute Truth. Here meditation ends, and the higher step of contemplation helps one to realize that one's real self is the Self of all. One also realizes that the realities experienced during wak

[FairfieldLife] Re: FF Directory, Active Spiritual Practice Groups

2008-03-01 Thread dhamiltony2k5
>, run your finger down this directory a moment. Really, it is > not just a few people… > > A Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups in Fairfield: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/162814 Noted also: the floating Fairfield coffee shop satsangs. Satsangs & coffee. Spr

[FairfieldLife] New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2008-03-01 Thread FairfieldLife
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Meditation Techniques/enlightenment-without-god-swami-rama.pdf Uploaded by : vajradhatu108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Description : Enlightenme

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-01 Thread Angela Mailander
My questions were addressed to Hagen because he was the one talking about things that should be banned and prevented. I am familiar with the cultural memes Beck et al speak about, and they are seductive, but too simplistic in my view. I've lived in India and in China, and the realities of these

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread Stu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I keep wondering why people here continue to intellectually masturbate > over these states of consciousness. Once you are on your way down the > road it doesn't matter. In my tradition the guru just looks at your > face

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 6:58 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > Yeah, but you gotta live in a cave, spend most of > > your time meditating, eat vegetarian, wear nothing > > but a loincloth winter and summer. No TV or CD player

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-01 Thread Stu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > HOW exactly are you going to ban and prevent the > things you advocate banning and preventing? And WHO > exactly will decide what should be banned and > prevented? > Nobody is suggesting using the tools of reli

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread Angela Mailander
What makes you think I have not consulted teachers or that the teachers I have consulted were bogus? On the other hand: I have not lost the ability to live the state some of us are pleased to call the state of ignorance. I don't personally like that term for it. There is nothing ignorant abou

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 8:02 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 6:49 PM, itsstevemartin wrote: > > > > > > > Absolutely beautiful, > > > > Thanks for the

[FairfieldLife] FW: Uttar Kashi Ceremonies for Maharishi

2008-03-01 Thread dhamiltony2k5
e-mail: Subject: Uttar Kashi Ceremonies for Maharishi On Thursday 28 February, the Uttarkashi Purusha, a good number of other westerners, many pandits, and also many other Indians, all gathered at the Maharishi Vidya Mandir (the Maharishi School). A large group of very elderly Dhanda swamis a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote: > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 5:01 PM, sparaig wrote: > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > a person in unity according to your understanding no >> > longer experiences life? My understanding is that one >> > does still experience l

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 1, 2008, at 6:58 PM, authfriend wrote: Yeah, but you gotta live in a cave, spend most of your time meditating, eat vegetarian, wear nothing but a loincloth winter and summer. No TV or CD player or Internet, probably no electricity or indoor plumbing. Beer and guitar are most likely out to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread Vaj
On Mar 1, 2008, at 2:31 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I didn't say it was of no value. I said I don't see > why the state is "higher." If I experience two > radically different states of consciousness at will, > then w

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread Vaj
On Mar 1, 2008, at 5:01 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > a person in unity according to your understanding no > longer experiences life? My understanding is that one > does still experience life, but knowledge is certainl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread Vaj
On Mar 1, 2008, at 5:01 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > a person in unity according to your understanding no > longer experiences life? My understanding is that one > does still experience life, but knowledge is certainl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread Vaj
On Mar 1, 2008, at 8:02 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 6:49 PM, itsstevemartin wrote: > > > Absolutely beautiful, > > Thanks for the post. > > Steve > > If of course he wasn't on the early payroll of MMY, Inc. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your own story about MMY

2008-03-01 Thread george_deforest
> TurquoiseB wrote: > > The original story: > > Ah. Your stories are so uplifting that they > made me smile with the memory of the mindset. > Can't fault that, eh? WAY positive. > > So here's one of mine, that captures a little > of the same mindset that used to be so easily > inspired. Back whe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-01 Thread Angela Mailander
HOW exactly are you going to ban and prevent the things you advocate banning and preventing? And WHO exactly will decide what should be banned and prevented? --- "Hagen J. Holtz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Religion has no relationship with spirituality.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 6:49 PM, itsstevemartin wrote: > > > Absolutely beautiful, > > Thanks for the post. > > Steve > > If of course he wasn't on the early payroll of MMY, Inc. > > Please keep in mind traditional renunciates w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Student: Does he think that his way of life helps the rest of > mankind or only him? > > > > TWB: All these saints meditating and established in the Self, > > they are the basis for all this running of the enti

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
> Certainly Tat Wale Baba's successor will tell you that Mahesh made > some errors with his "TM Sidhi Program"! So we do know--from the > perspective of Tat Walla Baba's tradition, there are 'errors'. Gotta love the counter evidence to the the Heyam Dukham Anagitam (sp?)rap too! It will mak

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BushCo's $4 a gallon gas

2008-03-01 Thread Bhairitu
new.morning wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> new.morning wrote: >> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >>> >>> >>> >> Your economic logic sounds like that of the Austrian economist whose >> philosophy i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread Vaj
On Mar 1, 2008, at 6:49 PM, itsstevemartin wrote: Absolutely beautiful, Thanks for the post. Steve If of course he wasn't on the early payroll of MMY, Inc. Please keep in mind traditional renunciates will almost always, without fail, follow the scriptural injunction not to speak ill of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
Student: Does he think that his way of life helps the rest of mankind > or only him? > > TWB: All these saints meditating and established in the Self, they > are the basis for all this running of the entire universe, and they > are the basis of the whole thing, and not for themselves alone. Their >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment Without God

2008-03-01 Thread new . morning
Oh my. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > I hope confusion, obsfucation and fairy tales bring you great > > happiness Do. But if in the future you are going to again post wild > > clai

[FairfieldLife] Re: BushCo's $4 a gallon gas

2008-03-01 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > new.morning wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > >> > Your economic logic sounds like that of the Austrian economist whose > philosophy is almost 150 years out of date. That certainl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tat Wale Baba lectures to a 60's Teacher Training Course in India, > and Maharishi translates. > > Here is an interview with one of India's greatest saints, Tat Wale > Baba, who Maharishi once described as being in a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread itsstevemartin
Absolutely beautiful, Thanks for the post. Steve --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tat Wale Baba lectures to a 60's Teacher Training Course in India, > and Maharishi translates. > > Here is an interview with one of India's greatest saints, Tat Wale

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-01 Thread Hagen J. Holtz
Stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Religion has no relationship with spirituality. Religions are a cultural phenomenon. Aside from their questionable view on human rights, they all share the dangerous notion of believing they are right and everyone else is wrong. That one fault is reason enough

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM Dress Code Relaxed

2008-03-01 Thread Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 12:05 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > The policy was just dramatically relaxed. Now students can wear > > > blue jeans, grow

[FairfieldLife] Tat Wale Baba lecture

2008-03-01 Thread bob_brigante
Tat Wale Baba lectures to a 60's Teacher Training Course in India, and Maharishi translates. Here is an interview with one of India's greatest saints, Tat Wale Baba, who Maharishi once described as being in a "good state of Unity Consciousness." In the early days of the Movement, Maharishi invited

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment Without God

2008-03-01 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > > > > > Everybody wants to be happy. Adharmic behavior results in unhappiness. > > Dharmic behavior results in happiness. It's up to each individual to > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: SEEKIN'

2008-03-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 'Tehachapi to Tonapah' - so that's what Lowell George sang ! - Yup. Obvious to those of us from the Southwest, but a tad challenging to those who haven't driven the roads he was writing about. > Thanks, Turq,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread Angela Mailander
Well, there's another example of how worthless it is to try to have a conversation about experiences of "other" states of consciousness. --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela > Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > a person in unity accor

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your own story about MMY

2008-03-01 Thread Vaj
On Mar 1, 2008, at 3:16 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: He was an amazing man, and he was a shitty "perfect mythological holy man." I see his followers tying to build him up bigger than life even more than when he was alive, and I think robbing him of his humanity is a huge mistake. Bingo, therei

[FairfieldLife] Re: SEEKIN'

2008-03-01 Thread mainstream20016
'Tehachapi to Tonapah' - so that's what Lowell George sang ! - Thanks, Turq, for the clarification of 'Willin' lyrics. Regarding 'Seekin', your best line is: 'Stayed on the program so I never got laid'. A FFL gathering including such songs would be a blast. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > a person in unity according to your understanding no > longer experiences life? My understanding is that one > does still experience life, but knowledge is certainly > different in that state. I don't experienc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your own story about MMY

2008-03-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm sure I will think of some more contributions for your > > > book that will help preserve the fragile myth of Maharishi's > > > perfection. > > > > Oh, for chrissakes, Curtis, don't be such a sourpuss! >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-01 Thread Angela Mailander
I didn't write the thing below. However, historically, religions and spirituality do have a relationship, one which is often strained. Historians of religion differentiate between exoteric and esoteric religion. Exoteric religion is what you are describing, but all mystics reject exoteric religi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-01 Thread Stu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Religion and spirituality have the important > > function of a helping us > > to connect to our depth, or the collective depth and > > creating values > > to follow. But this area has also severe defects and > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BushCo's $4 a gallon gas

2008-03-01 Thread Angela Mailander
Yeah, you can look at history as a progressive erosion of the divine right of rulership. The landed aristocracy wanted a piece of the action and won it. Then the mercantile class wanted a voice. Then, scaring the shit out of everybody, ordinary people demanded to be heard in the French Revolutio

[FairfieldLife] Re: 4 out of 3 people don't understand fractions

2008-03-01 Thread Stu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "itsstevemartin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can see through experience that the chair has three legs and through faith know the fourth leg holds it up. You may want to open your eyes and note if the fourth leg really exists or not before you end up flat on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment Without God

2008-03-01 Thread Stu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Everybody wants to be happy. Adharmic behavior results in unhappiness. > Dharmic behavior results in happiness. It's up to each individual to > live their dharma, whatever it is at their stage in life. I'd sugges

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your own story about MMY

2008-03-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm sure I will think of some more contributions for your > > > book that will help preserve the fragile myth of Maharishi's > > > perfection. > > > > Oh, for chrissakes, Curtis, don't be such a sourpuss!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander > wrote: > > > > I didn't say it was of no value. I said I don't see > > why the state is "higher." If I experience two > > radically different states of con

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your own story about MMY

2008-03-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
> > I'm sure I will think of some more contributions for your > > book that will help preserve the fragile myth of Maharishi's > > perfection. > > Oh, for chrissakes, Curtis, don't be such a sourpuss! It did hit my oppositional reflex. Since I wrote some nice things about my memories with Mahari

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread Angela Mailander
a person in unity according to your understanding no longer experiences life? My understanding is that one does still experience life, but knowledge is certainly different in that state. I don't experience the world as separate from me. Another way of saying the same thing is that I don't experi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BushCo's $4 a gallon gas

2008-03-01 Thread Bhairitu
It's well known in history even at the time that this country was being founded that the elite did not like the "commoners" owning property. That remains true today. Furthermore I would propose they also hated in the late 20th century that cheap air travel made it possible for the "commoners"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "abutilon108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander > wrote: > > > > I didn't say it was of no value. I said I don't see > > why the state is "higher." If I experience two > > radically different states of cons

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread Larry
I know what you're getting at - and add the element that it almost seems like BeinginCoitus, there is a tad of guilt associated - or a little yuck, I am That and you are Gross :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, exactly. I am that...etc.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Sleep (15)

2008-03-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 2:29 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > Not really. Think of it as test-driving samadhi in the virtual world > > > of your own sleep/holodeck. The parallels are really too significant > > > for any yogi to

[FairfieldLife] audio: Two mystical experiences by Governors after Maharishi's departure

2008-03-01 Thread george_deforest
Re: Two experiences of Governors after Maharishi's departure as reported on Global Family Chat Feb 24, 2008 this is an audio of the broadcast, you can download the mp3 here: http://rapidshare.com/files/96244515/FamilyChat24Feb08.mp3.html ps - the site will invite you to join and pay for premi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread abutilon108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I didn't say it was of no value. I said I don't see > why the state is "higher." If I experience two > radically different states of consciousness at will, > then why would I call one higher than the other? The

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Sleep (15)

2008-03-01 Thread Vaj
On Mar 1, 2008, at 2:29 PM, sparaig wrote: > > Not really. Think of it as test-driving samadhi in the virtual world > of your own sleep/holodeck. The parallels are really too significant > for any yogi to ignore (thus the importance of such practices in > Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism, etc). >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread sparaig
Top-posting again: UC, as defined by MMY, includes the ability to manifest the final stage of any siddhi when decided upon... The question, or course, arises: who is deciding? ...but at the last, claiming that you can go into unity when you decide to is an odd thing to claim unless you als

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander > wrote: > > > > I didn't say it was of no value. I said I don't see > > why the state is "higher." If I experience two > > radically different states of con

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I didn't say it was of no value. I said I don't see > why the state is "higher." If I experience two > radically different states of consciousness at will, > then why would I call one higher than the other? Th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread Angela Mailander
Yes, exactly. I am that...etc. That is my experience. I like the experience, but it's not convenient when interacting with others to actually experience them in that way. So I don't go there when I'm talking to the guy at Walmart to ask him where the stuff is that I want. On the other hand, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Sleep (15)

2008-03-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Feb 26, 2008, at 3:14 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 26, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > > > > > Though this way of understanding dreamles

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BushCo's $4 a gallon gas

2008-03-01 Thread Bhairitu
new.morning wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> shempmcgurk wrote: >> >>> But, Barfitu, you and the Global Warming crowd are AGAINST wanton >>> gasoline consumption. The higher the price of gas, the lower the >>> consumption and the les

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment Without God

2008-03-01 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hope confusion, obsfucation and fairy tales bring you great > happiness Do. But if in the future you are going to again post wild > claims, you might think about actually trying to explain and defend > your position.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment Without God

2008-03-01 Thread new . morning
I hope confusion, obsfucation and fairy tales bring you great happiness Do. But if in the future you are going to again post wild claims, you might think about actually trying to explain and defend your position. Though pontification too has its strong adherents. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread Larry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander wrote: > > > > One of my favorite quotes from last week is this from > > Sandy Ego: > > > > Now I will explain myself, and please see if you can > > discriminate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment Without God

2008-03-01 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > New: > "W

[FairfieldLife] Uh, Oh...

2008-03-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
Get ready for some hardball tactics from the Clinton camp if she loses the Texas primary. "Democratic sources said both campaigns have made it clear that they might consider legal options over the complicated delegate selection process, which includes both a popular vote and evening caucuse

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I didn't say it was of no value. I said I don't see > why the state is "higher." If I experience two > radically different states of consciousness at will, > then why would I call one higher than the other? Th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread Angela Mailander
I didn't say it was of no value. I said I don't see why the state is "higher." If I experience two radically different states of consciousness at will, then why would I call one higher than the other? They are different. They each have their points. The fact that there are different states and

[FairfieldLife] Re: BushCo's $4 a gallon gas

2008-03-01 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > shempmcgurk wrote: > > But, Barfitu, you and the Global Warming crowd are AGAINST wanton > > gasoline consumption. The higher the price of gas, the lower the > > consumption and the less emission of the evil carbon int

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One of my favorite quotes from last week is this from > Sandy Ego: > > Now I will explain myself, and please see if you can > discriminate between what I am saying, and what you > think I am > saying. > > If

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One of my favorite quotes from last week is this from > Sandy Ego: > > Now I will explain myself, and please see if you can > discriminate between what I am saying, and what you > think I am > saying. > > If

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your own story about MMY

2008-03-01 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 11:28 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > I'm sure I will think of some more contributions for your > > > book that will help prese

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-01 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One of my favorite quotes from last week is this from > Sandy Ego: > > Now I will explain myself, and please see if you can > discriminate between what I am saying, and what you > think I am > saying. > > If

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting Take On Barack Vs. Hillary Campaigns

2008-03-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "CHICAGO -- Should Barack Obama end up winning his party's > nomination, he will give his acceptance speech at the Democratic > National Convention in Denver on August 28 -- 45 years to the day > Martin Luther

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment Without God

2008-03-01 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > [snip] > New: "Well, you have not addressed my point. To me thats fundamental. For you, not so

[FairfieldLife] Interesting Take On Barack Vs. Hillary Campaigns

2008-03-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
"CHICAGO -- Should Barack Obama end up winning his party's nomination, he will give his acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention in Denver on August 28 -- 45 years to the day Martin Luther King delivered his "I Have a Dream" speech on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. If thi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BushCo's $4 a gallon gas

2008-03-01 Thread Angela Mailander
Bhairitu, that's the best context I've seen to make the statement true: "They hate us for our freedom." --- Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > shempmcgurk wrote: > > But, Barfitu, you and the Global Warming crowd are > AGAINST wanton > > gasoline consumption. The higher the price of > gas,

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