[FairfieldLife] Re: This morning. . .
Cool story, and well told. I just love those moments in nature when you realize that you have the choice whether to stand out or fit in. It makes the Castanedan idea of inaccessibility real. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote: Took off work this morning with the expectation that I could get out and get in a couple hours of surfing before the big waves come in this weekend (25-foot swells, so far beyond my abilities as to be inconceivable), but as it turned out, there was nothing firing at any of the surfbreaks I checked except for hundreds of yards of white water (dubbed the boneyard) that I could never paddle out through even if there were fine sets beyond. Anyway, I stopped at several places with no luck (and no one else out) and then took the back way to Eureka, heading south along the peninsula that's on the west side of Humboldt Bay. I stopped at the Manila dunes (for some reason there are several place names here based on, I suppose, someone's wishful dreaming of warmer climes: Trinidad, Manila, Samoa, the last two are on the peninsula and Trinidad is north of Arcata) and hiked across the dunes from where I parked to see if there was anything breaking there. Same story as the other breaks I checked, but when I crested the last dune and finally came up to the breakers I found a whole colony of these tiny shorebirds (http://tinyurl.com/5cptkk). (That's not my picture but one I downloaded from someone's flickr album.) Anyway, these little birds, each about the size of a small mushroom were all hunkered down in the sand (not rocks as in the photo, above), maybe half-an-acre of these little guys. As I came over the top of the dune, a few hundred or so got up and milled around a little bit but no one flew off and I was totally tempted to walk down just a few more feet to see the whole flock take wing. There's maybe, I don't know, maybe a few hundred thousand right there on the sand, not 50 feet away. When these little guys flock it's a shimmering, pulsing joy to watch. Their bellies are ivory and their tops are a rich sandy brown, and the alternation of how they wheel and spew low across the sand and water creates these bursts of white pointillism followed by almost complete invisibility, only to be followed by another flash of white fireworks. It's really cool to see. So I was tempted to initiate the chain reaction but then considered just how much total caloric energy expenditure I'd be responsible for and just stood and watched for a while instead. No big deal one way or the other, but still a fine and gentle experience that filled in for the lack of catching waves today. Nothing more than that. **
[FairfieldLife] Re: Institutionalized Sexual Abuse, period
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: speaking of mindfucks, your answer sounds like a mindfuck. so much bobbing and weaving around an indefensible position. your assignment is to just answer the points made in the article, one by one. i know you are incapable of this, but just thought i'd throw it out there-- your answers always entertain us. Well, in the interest of entertainment, and even though it appears that ED11 will not be around to respond (if she had the chops to do so), I *will* address her points one by one, just for the fun of it. The reason is that I've realized that June Campbell was the subject of a radio interview I heard last time I was in the UK, and so I know a bit about her background and some of her other possible motives for having written this book, and conducting her one-woman demonization campaign against Tibetan Buddhism. (Please note that I am *not* a Tibetan Buddhist per se, and neither is Vaj, although I think we both appreciate many things from that tradition.) Excerpt from Traveller in Space, a book by June Campbell: The Tibetan Buddhists developed the belief that enlightenment could be accelerated by the decision to enlist the passions in one`s religious practice, rather than to avoid them. The stategy is considered extremely risky yet so efficacious that it could lead to enligthenment in one lifetime. Nothing to comment on here. All true. Monks of a lower status confined themselves to visualising an imaginary sexual relationship during meditation. Not true. Visualization vs. actualization (that is, having real sex) has nothing to do with lowered or higher status in an ashram or in a spiritual hierarchy, merely preference. Phrasing it this way is the author's way of insinuating that having real sex was something done only by the folks at the top, which she should know from experience is not true. But, her book sets out, the masters reach a point where they decide that they can engage in sex without being tainted by it. True. As do some rank-and-filers. Whether this is true is a matter of opinion. Again, it has nothing to do with whether one is a master or not. As has been pointed out in the press, the author still seems more than a little pissed off that her 3-year rela- tionship with Kalu Rinpoche didn't turn out the way she wanted it to, and that tends to color her writing on the subject. The instructions in the so-called secret texts spell out the methods which enable the man to control the flow of semen through yogic breath control and other practices. The idea is to drive the semen upwards, along the spine, and into the head. The more semen in a man`s head, the stronger intellectually and spiritually he is thought to be. All this is true. Then again, there are *other* teachings which say completely different things. The author is attempting to pretend that one teaching, held by *some* people or sects in Buddhism, represents all of Buddhism. T'ain't true. It's the counterpart of saying that the beliefs held by Southern Baptists or Mormons represent all of Christianity. The reverse of ordinary sex expresses the relative status of the male and female within the ritual. I don't have any earthly idea what the author is trying to say here, and suspect that she didn't, either. I'm also not sure which position in the Kama Sutra would constitute the reverse of ordinary sex. :-) More than that, he is said to gain additional strength from absorbing the woman`s sexual fluids at the same time as withholding his own. Given my understanding of such techniques, 1) they have nothing whatsoever to do with actual fluids; that is the author just using that term for shock value. The actual techniques are about an exchange of subtle pranic energy and are clearly described in those terms. As far as I can tell, the invention of the idea of female fluids is just that, an invention. And 2) everything I've ever heard or been taught was clear that it was a *two-way* exchange of energies, not what the author characterizes it as. *Both* parties gain from the exchange of energies. This is so fundamental to the teachings themselves that one has to wonder about someone (the author) getting it so fundamentally wrong; it almost seems as if there is an *intent* to present it wrongly. This reverse of ordinary sex, said June Campbell, expresses the relative status of the male and female within the ritual, for it signals the power flowing from the woman to the man. Again, I'd like to see a reference to a text or a publicly-available teaching that *ever* hints that the energy flow is one-directional, from the woman to the man. Tibetan Buddhist literature is *full* of stories of women becoming enlightened during Tantric sex with men. Not the least of these stories involves Sky Dancer herself, Yeshe Tsogyal, the female patron saint of Tibet. If the author spent three years with Kalu Rinpoche
[FairfieldLife] Re: Classic Movement goodies
How about tape 8 of the Science of Creative Intelligence? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Several classic Movement-related items are available through Steve Guich's web site. Beacon Light of the Himalayas, jpg's of each page. Chronicle's Maharishi's first steps of teaching in India, before he started his world tours: http://www.rencapp.com/BeaconLightoftheHimalayas.zip http://www.rencapp.com/BeaconLightoftheHimalayas.zip A collection of pics of MMY: http://www.rencapp.com/TMPics.zip http://www.rencapp.com/TMPics.zip http://www.rencapp.com/TMPics.zip The Whole Thing; The Real Thing, pdf format, a small book from Delhi Photo on the life of Guru Dev: http://www.rencapp.com/TheWholeThing.pdf http://www.rencapp.com/TheWholeThing.pdf The History Channel's biography of Maharishi: http://www.rencapp.com/MMY_History_Channel.mp4 http://www.rencapp.com/MMY_History_Channel.mp4 Sage of a New Generation, an early movie on Maharishi's mission to the world: http://www.rencapp.com/EarlyTM_movie_Sage108.avi http://www.rencapp.com/EarlyTM_movie_Sage108.avi Howard Stern's very respectful radio show on Maharishi, shortly after his Mahasamadhi: http://www.rencapp.com/Howard_Stern_on_Maharishi_02_06_2008.mp3 http://www.rencapp.com/Howard_Stern_on_Maharishi_02_06_2008.mp3 A well-done animated version of Ramayana: http://www.rencapp.com/Ramayana_(The_Prince_Of_Light).avi http://www.rencapp.com/Ramayana_(The_Prince_Of_Light).avi
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
Om, word on the street is that SCI is being dropped as a course because is so unpopular with the students. So, the Rajas have concluded. Would that also be related to working TM's positioning on the religion issue. The man is dead not even a year, and they chuck his Science of Creative Intelligence? what are they doing with all his money? 1971, Maharishi's Year of Science of Creative Intelligence. Maharishi formulated the Science of Creative Intelligence as the scientific theory for the development of higher states of sconsciousness, which naturally develop through the practice of Transcendental Meditations. Maharishi establishes Maharishi International University in the USA, to serve as a model of ideal education in the world. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: -Original Message- From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davi...@] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:40 PM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion Dear Colleagues, I have just posted on wwwTruthAboutTM.com a profound letter by a leading attorney on the question of whether the TM program is a religion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Institutionalized Sexual Abuse, period
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Go read the Sexy Sadie files. It's SexySadie.rtf, at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/TMO%20--%20the% 20Odd%20Side/ or http://tinyurl.com/bt7sp Thanks, had forgot it was there had not looked in a while. Is new and improved, for research. Related to MMY's alleged sexual exploits - reorganized and significantly expanded
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
Oh okay, then its a cultic religion by definition test. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: -Original Message- From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davi...@...] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:40 PM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion Dear Colleagues, I have just posted on wwwTruthAboutTM.com a profound letter by a leading attorney on the question of whether the TM program is a religion. He considers the issue from the perspective of the legal definition of religion, and concludes that Page 3 It has been asserted that the TM program was previously declared a religious practice in federal court. This, however, is demonstrably not so. In a Third Circuit case from 1979, the Court found that an elective course on the Science of Creative Intelligence was a religious activity. Malnak v. Yogi, 592 F.2d 197 (3d Cir. 1979). To be sure, the elective course included the use of the TM technique, but the Court's focus was on the Science of Creative Intelligence. Judge Adams explained, in his separate opinion, that the belief in Creative Intelligence was a comprehensive system for looking at issues of ultimate concern- answering affirmatively the first two questions later delineated in Africa. Malnak, 592 F.2d at 213 (Adams, J. concurring). The Court certainly did not decide whether TM by itself was a religious activity. Id. ([TM] by itself might be defended ... as primarily a relaxation or concentration technique with no 'ultimate' significance). Some have suggested that the religious nature of the TM program is revealed in the single ceremony called the Puja. Prior to a practitioner engaging in the TM technique for the first time, the practitioner witnesses the Puja. After the ceremony each individual being instructed is given a mantra to use-a word, to which no meaning is ascribed, to silently repeat during the TM technique. The Puja is not a religious activity, though it may have the look of a religious ceremony. Because it is performed entirely in Sanskrit, no student and maybe not even the teacher who leads the Puja, know what the foreign words mean in English. See id. at 203. Simply put, the Puja does not have religious significance (it does not address ultimate questions) and is merely a ceremonial method by which mantras are assigned. In addition, it is practiced only once for each student. TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION AS PART OF A QUIET TIME PROGRAM IS CONSTITUTIONAL Even if it were to be assumed that the TM program is a religious practice, its use in the context of a Quiet Time program is constitutional. No Court has ever ruled that a school policy, which provides for a period of quiet for its students to do what they deem fit, is unlawful or --- April 9, 2007 Page 4 unconstitutional. Indeed, it is quite clear that students could engage in religious or non-religious activities during a neutrally implemented period of voluntary quiet, without raising an issue under the First Amendment. The Supreme Court's decision in Wallace v. Jaffree, confirmed the constitutional right to a voluntary period of meditation in the classroom with a clearly secular purpose in the pre-existing State legislation when it struck down the proposed new legislation, which impermissibly sought to promote religious prayer: The legislative intent to return prayer to the public schools is, of course, quite different from merely protecting every student's right to engage in voluntary prayer during an appropriate moment of silence during the school day. The [pre-existing] statute already protected that right, containing nothing that prevented any student from engaging in voluntary prayer during a silent minute of meditation. 472 U.S. at 58. Moment of silence or quiet time laws or policies are constitutional when they demonstrate neutrality to religion, have a clearly secular purpose, and do not entangle schools in religious issues. Id. at 56; see Brown v. Gilmore, 258 F.3d 265 (4th Cir. 2001), cert. denied, 534 U.S. 996 (2001) (upholding neutral quiet time law with clearly secular purpose against Establishment Clause challenge); Brown v. Gwinnett County Sch. Dist., 112 F.3d 1464 (11th Cir. 1997) (same). The Quiet Time program, as it is currently instituted in public schools, does not raise an issue under the Establishment Clause. First, it maintains the school's complete neutrality to religion. The Quiet Time program allows students to engage in any quiet activity that they choose. The school does not favor one practice over another. Second, even if the TM technique were a religious activity, the Quiet Time program has a clearly secular purpose: it allows students a quiet period during which
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
It is not 6 or 8 means but, significantly, limbs of yoga. When you pull one leg of a chair the whole chair follows. So even if you disregard the 10 or so sutras concerning Ishwara out of the 195 Sutras of Yoga Sutra, you can practice easily Yoga or Meditation without being concerned with a religion. And derive great benefits of TM. And when it is assumed, I know it is a far fetched assumption, that what the churches teach is a religion then by all counts TM is NOT a religion. So let the churches out of schools: An organisation with such a mafia history and ingnorant present (e.g. the world is 6000 yrs old), should not be allowed to bend the minds of our children. But if we want to improve minds and health in an easy and graceful manner - make sure to do 20 min. twice a day in every schools and everywhere else, too. With best wishes Shaas --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Although the meditation itself is not (or at least doesn't *have* to be done as) a religious practice, the puja certainly is and every initiator is schooled and tested on exactly what the Sanskrit words mean and what internal feelings those words are supposed to evoke in the initiator. To say that the teacher may not know what they mean is not just disingenuous, it's a lie. And the puja unquestionably deals with and articulates a point of view regarding the ultimate truth. The initiator may not ultimately subscribe to the teachings contained in the puja, but we were all mightily encouraged to adopt and conform to those teachings and most, if not all my initiator colleagues did, and without question. If anything, we were eager to be taught what it really meant and what was the real truth behind what it was we were initiating people into. It seems absurd to me that movement apologists continue dancing around the issue. Who cares? For myself, I'm happy to have been a devoted member of a hindu cult; I'm happy to continue to subscribe to some of the tenets, though not as fervently or dogmatically as in the past; but pujas and yagyas and all day meditation programs at one end of the spectrum are certainly religious, even if twice daily meditation at the other end of the spectrum may not be. I agree with you. IMO TM is a science of Religion, or a Religious Science. The reason Religion is such a big 'bug a boo' to the TMorg and MMY is the deplorable state Religion is in todaywho wants that! Ha! Also MMY determined he could have a broader appeal if he eliminated any Religious connotations, (like Patanjali's first two limbs, Yama and Niyama) and he was right, unfortunately that leaves you with a half a loaf and reduces the effectiveness of TM by ignoring the recommendations Patanjali had. With MMY there are only 6 *means* to Yoga and not 8 like Patanjali had recommeded. When or if he was ever going to reinstate the full 8 limbs or means to Yoga is anybody's guessI guess it's too late for that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, amritasyaputra amritasyapu...@... wrote: It is not 6 or 8 means but, significantly, limbs of yoga. When you pull one leg of a chair the whole chair follows. So even if you disregard the 10 or so sutras concerning Ishwara out of the 195 Sutras of Yoga Sutra, you can practice easily Yoga or Meditation without being concerned with a religion. And derive great benefits of TM. And when it is assumed, I know it is a far fetched assumption, that what the churches teach is a religion then by all counts TM is NOT a religion. So let the churches out of schools: An organisation with such a mafia history and ingnorant present (e.g. the world is 6000 yrs old), should not be allowed to bend the minds of our children. But if we want to improve minds and health in an easy and graceful manner - make sure to do 20 min. twice a day in every schools and everywhere else, too. With best wishes Shaas Just as a question, Shaas, because you haven't posted here very much, since improving the minds of our children in an easy and graceful manner is so important, would you say that it should be made *mandatory* in schools and everywhere else? That is, if a law could be written or policy enacted that made it the rule of law that every person practice TM 20 minutes twice a day, would you accept such a law and think that it was a good idea? If it were a law, and someone violated it by refusing to meditate 20 minutes twice a day, or by practicing some other form of prayer, meditation, or spiritual sadhana, what do you think would be a suitable punishment or fine?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Institutionalized Sexual Abuse, period
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: article i posted in under 30 seconds- the tradition of tibetan buddhism isn't as pure as you may imagine it to be. and i am not in vengeance mode, whatever that is. i actually posted the article to illustrate what a rotten tradition jiveradhatu follows - didn't have much to do with you at all. What's a jiveradhatu? vaj=jive LOL Perfectly fitting
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Should Obama tap Ron Paul?
Is Obama gay? Is Ron Paul gay? More to the point, is Obama a top or a bottom? Why does Obama want to tap Ron Paul's ass? Is this a Chicago thing? --- On Fri, 12/12/08, raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Should Obama tap Ron Paul? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 11:51 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Put your partisanship in politics aside, and any prejudice against OffWorld as well, and answer me this: Should Obama be encouraged to tap Ron Paul? Pros and cons please. Both please. Or, just shut the fuck up because it just means you do not have a brain if you cannot do pros and cons in an open-minded honest way. Top rated on YouTube today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc1fDjS0YF4 OffWorld - pwns. They are polar opposites. Ergo, he should not tap him. Hell, they're not even close on the Iraq War, which used to be the only thing they had in common. Only psychotic nutjobs could have supported both men. The hatred in your heart is eating you up Shemp. Its your ego eating your body. You can feel it, but you won't admit it, because your ego has created the hate you express all the time. I feel sorry for you. You did not answer the question. Ron Paul and Obama were against the war. You, Raunchy, Richard, Mdixon, and a couple of others are the only people left on the planet who do not admit the Iraq war was wrong. I feel sorry for you and your hate-filled-friend you cuddle up to at night. OffWorld Where did you get the idea I thought the Iraq war O.K.? You are Off on that one for sure. What was the purpose of this question anyway? If you are a Ron Paul hold out, and you think Obama will give him the recognition you think his deserves, you are mistaken. I've already stated my reasons why I think it will not happen, so asking if Obama should tap Paul is completely irrelevant. If I were to frame my response with should I'd say should not because other than the being against Iraq War, they have zero common ground. Now that you got a few people to respond to you and none of their responses satisfy you, it's your turn to answer the question. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Share International New Release, 11. December 2008
SHARE INTERNATIONAL www.share-international.org NEWS RELEASE NO. 87, 11 DECEMBER 2008 Christmas Miracle For years the world has been filled with miracles of all kinds. In April 1995 Time magazine devoted an eight-page spread to its cover story on miracles, and concluded: People are hungry for signs. Look now for the biggest miracle of all. In the very near future a large, bright star will appear in the sky visible to all throughout the world night and day. Unbelievable? Fantasy? No, a simple fact. Around a week later Maitreya, the World Teacher for all humanity, will begin His open emergence and though not yet using the name Maitreya will be interviewed on major US television. In 1988 CNN and other media reported on Maitreya's miraculous appearance to 6,000 people in Nairobi, Kenya, on Saturday 11 June. A week before the event a remarkable sign occurred: On Saturday 4 June a big, bright star was sighted, unusually brighter than ordinary stars, reported Kenya Times editor Job Mutungi. For over 30 years artist, author and lecturer Benjamin Creme has been preparing the way for the biggest event in history the emergence of Maitreya and His group, the Masters of Wisdom. In May 1982 Creme revealed at a packed press conference in Los Angeles that Maitreya had been living in the Asian community of London since 19 July 1977. Awaited by all faiths under different names, Maitreya is the Christ to Christians, the Imam Mahdi to Muslims, Krishna to Hindus, the Messiah to Jews, and Maitreya Buddha to Buddhists. He is the World Teacher for all, Maitreya's miraculous appearance to 6,000 religious or not, an educator in the broadest sense. people in Nairobi, Kenya, 11 June 1988 As a modern man concerned with today's problems, Maitreya works behind the scenes of our changing world. The outpouring of His extraordinary energy has been the stimulus for dramatic developments on many fronts: the ending of the cold war; the break-up of the Soviet Union; the reunification of Germany; the ending of apartheid in South Africa; the growing power of the people's voice, leading to demands for freedom and justice; and the worldwide focus on preserving the environment. Maitreya's message can be summarized as share and save the world. He will seek to inspire humanity to see itself as one family, and to create world peace through sharing, economic justice and global co-operation. With Maitreya and His group working openly in the world, humanity is assured not only of survival but of the creation of a brilliant new civilization. For more information visit: www.share-international.org T elephone: +44 (0)207 482 1113
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blago setup for a Fitzkill?
raunch wrote: The question is, will Obama have enough integrity to keep Fitzgerald in his administration as a US attorney? But Zero has already said that nobody from his camp *had* talked to the Blog. Or, was that Axelrod who said Obama *had* talked to the Blog? The point is with Fitz, it's not so much what was said, or not, but who did not tell him, the Fitz, what was going down. Fitz wanted to get Rove, but he got only Libby. But whatever Fitz wants, he will get - somebody - silence usually indicates agreement. The coverup has alredy begun. Now, the Mayor of Chicago, who seems to make deals with everyone, will have to talk to Fitz. Fitz will be onto Daley, if he isn't already bugging Daly's phone. It's *Fitzmas*, all over again, except this time it's the Dems who will not be partying like it's 1999 - nobody will be partying after this one. Next batter up for Fitz - a guy who lives in Chicago, on 1/6 of a plot of land, that used to belong to Mrs. Tony Rezko? I wonder what she's up to these days?
[FairfieldLife] David Mamet's take on Blagojevich
Priceless. :-) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-mamet/my-take-on-blagojevich_b_150056.html Editor's Note: More than one commentator, including our own Jason Linkins, has compared Gov. Rod Blagojevich's obscenity-filled wiretapped conversations to the profane poetry of a David Mamet play. So we asked Mamet for his take on Blagojevich. I am from Chicago, and, so, having been disillusioned with politics at an early age I do not become involved. The only reason I vote is because they pay me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal L.Shaddai@ wrote: In http://www.trancenet.net/law/denarot.shtml#fraud, the DeNaro Affidavit, there is mentionion the 108s. Could someone tell me who and what these people were? I heard them mentioned by a TM initiator many years ago. All I heard was that these were rich people who donated a lot to the TMO and could attend any course merely by signing their name with the designation 108. Gene Menetly, do I have to do all the answering around this joint! Can't believe no one had the courtesy to answer this up until this point:) Here's my wikepedia definition, subject to additions and modifications. The 108's were the forerunners of the TMO elites, although at the time of the 108's, the TMO was more fun. In most cases the 108's were self sufficient (in the financial sense) individuals able to participate in the different projects M cooked up, and who also were in a position to spend more time with M, in between these projects. I don't think they were hit up for money, but rather they just had the means to be with M. I was a newbie teacher on the very first six month course in Courcheval France, and had an opportunity to be with some of these guys. As reported previously, I remember one of our jobs was to answer mail from some the 108's on assignment in different parts of the world. In particular, I remember corresponding with one of the guys in Iran. His name was Michael __ (can't remember his last name). He was being harassed by the Savik (?), the Shah's secret police as they suspected he was a spy. He seemed pretty depressed about it. One of the 108's in our group was a guy named Ray Masson. I've often wondered what happened to him. Real nice guy. Over time the 108's got superceded by the Ministers of the AE, and the succession of titles after that. Oh, name derived from what I believe was said to be an auspicious number, 9. Also, said to have significance as a multiple of 36, and of course the original World Plan was based on a world population of 3.6 billion people, with centers built accordingly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: snip The 108's were the forerunners of the TMO elites, although at the time of the 108's, the TMO was more fun. In most cases the 108's were self sufficient (in the financial sense) individuals able to participate in the different projects M cooked up, and who also were in a position to spend more time with M, in between these projects. I don't think they were hit up for money, but rather they just had the means to be with M. Just to add, 108 is a sacred number in Hinduism and a huge number of other spiritual traditions. It has some special mathematical properties (see Wikipedia). Why it was applied to this group, I have no idea; I don't think it had anything to do with how many men were in the group. Maybe someone else can expand on this.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Just as a question, Shaas, because you haven't posted here very much, since improving the minds of our children in an easy and graceful manner is so important, would you say that it should be made *mandatory* in schools and everywhere else? That is, if a law could be written or policy enacted that made it the rule of law that every person practice TM 20 minutes twice a day, would you accept such a law and think that it was a good idea? If it were a law, and someone violated it by refusing to meditate 20 minutes twice a day, or by practicing some other form of prayer, meditation, or spiritual sadhana, what do you think would be a suitable punishment or fine? Shaas: So let the churches out of schools: An organisation with such a mafia history and ingnorant present (e.g. the world is 6000 yrs old), should not be allowed to bend the minds of our children. Barry you're responding to a guy who doesn't know that churches don't teach in public schools. So any argument he could make for it is moot. As you know, the fundies have been fighting to have prayer in public school for years. In recent years, in their new approach they claim that public schools teach a form of religion they call secular humanism and therefore public schools should allow prayer. No matter what kind of convoluted logic they use to challenge our tradition of separation of church and state, I hope it will never happen and the same goes for TM. It's a stretch but the only thing a public school could offer is extracurricular activity, like a TM or prayer club, and it would be totally voluntary. The benefits of TM are great for kids but you can't force it. If a private school wants to focus on religion or TM, fine. Just don't expect taxpayers to support it with school vouchers. Diverting tax dollars from public to private schools, is a sneaky damn way to destroy public schools and it thoroughly pisses me off. No Child Left Behind came from a guy who said, Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning? Bush's educational program is a disaster. It's designed to destroy public schools and it fits right in with the Republican mind set that privatizing everything, including schools is good for the economy. So in addition to bleeding public schools with vouchers for private schools, No Child Left Behind requires that a school meet testing standards or loose government funding, forcing it to close. It's yet another Republican nail in the coffin of public schools. Teachers are so overburdened complying with piles of NCLB mandates, there is little joy left in teaching. I taught school in Detroit and enjoyed it for many years. I have friends who teach in Fairfield public schools and I wouldn't want any part of what they have to put up with.
[FairfieldLife] Press Release from Share International
SHARE INTERNATIONAL www.share-international.org http://www.share-international.org NEWS RELEASE NO. 87, 11 DECEMBER 2008 Christmas Miracle For years the world has been filled with miracles of all kinds. In April 1995 Time magazine devoted an eight-page spread to its cover story on miracles, and concluded: People are hungry for signs. Look now for the biggest miracle of all. In the very near future a large, bright star will appear in the sky visible to all throughout the world night and day. Unbelievable? Fantasy? No, a simple fact. Around a week later Maitreya, the World Teacher for all humanity, will begin His open emergence and though not yet using the name Maitreya will be interviewed on major US television. In 1988 CNN and other media reported on Maitreya's miraculous appearance to 6,000 people in Nairobi, Kenya, on Saturday 11 June. A week before the event a remarkable sign occurred: On Saturday 4 June a big, bright star was sighted, unusually brighter than ordinary stars, reported Kenya Times editor Job Mutungi. For over 30 years artist, author and lecturer Benjamin Creme has been preparing the way for the biggest event in history the emergence of Maitreya and His group, the Masters of Wisdom. In May 1982 Creme revealed at a packed press conference in Los Angeles that Maitreya had been living in the Asian community of London since 19 July 1977. Awaited by all faiths under different names, Maitreya is the Christ to Christians, the Imam Mahdi to Muslims, Krishna to Hindus, the Messiah to Jews, and Maitreya Buddha to Buddhists. He is the World Teacher for all, religious or not, an educator in the broadest sense. As a modern man concerned with today's problems, Maitreya works behind the scenes of our changing world. The outpouring of His extraordinary energy has been the stimulus for dramatic developments on many fronts: the ending of the cold war; the break-up of the Soviet Union; the reunification of Germany; the ending of apartheid in South Africa; the growing power of the people's voice, leading to demands for freedom and justice; and the worldwide focus on preserving the environment. Maitreya's message can be summarized as share and save the world. He will seek to inspire humanity to see itself as one family, and to create world peace through sharing, economic justice and global co-operation. With Maitreya and His group working openly in the world, humanity is assured not only of survival but of the creation of a brilliant new civilization. For more information visit: www.share-international.org http://www.share-international.org Telephone: +44 (0)207 482 1113
[FairfieldLife] Why the posting limits work :-)
http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech/2008/12/11/not-tonight-dear-id-rather-blog/ Not Tonight Dear, I'd Rather Blog Men have always faced challenges when it comes to romance. Here's a sign that technology may have raised another hurdle. An online survey commissioned by Intel has found, among other things, that 46% of women would rather go without sex for two weeks than give up the Internet for that long. The numbers get bigger for certain age groups; 49% of women aged 18-34 would make that choice, and 52% of women aged 35-44. Not that males are immune from the siren call of the Web, but the numbers aren't so dramatic. Some 30% of all men would swap sex for the Internet for two weeks, if they had to, with 39% of men aged 18-34 willing to make that sacrifice, according to the survey. Only 23% of men aged 35-44 said they would do so. Intel, it should be noted, did not set out to prove a point about modern sexual behavior. And some people might try to poke holes at these findings; for one thing, respondents of online surveys are typically drawn from panels of people who sign up for them, which could make them imperfect proxies for all Internet users. (In this case, Harris Interactive conducted the survey for Intel, putting the questions to 2,119 adults last month). The company's goal, not surprisingly, was to show how essential the Internet has become to peopleeven during tough economic times. That's important to Intel, since many people get online with computers that use Intel microprocessors. And of course, the survey came up with other examples to make that case: For example, 95% of respondents said it is very important, important or somewhat important for people to have devices that allow them to access the Internet, and 84% said they saved money by comparing prices online and finding the best deals before making purchase decisions. But those findings, let's face it, are not quite so sexy. [ and here, just for fun, a commentary on science ] http://www.theonion.com/content/node/67259
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: The man is dead not even a year, and they chuck his Science of Creative Intelligence? It IS rather astounding. I was one who thoroughly enjoyed the course, although I took in Humboldt, Ca. at the Cobb Mountain Academy, and had an awesome instructor. So perhaps that had a lot to do with it. On the other hand, in the field, I taught it a time or two, and still enjoyed it. Then some time later, (within the last few years), I had occassion to see one of the tapes, and could not get through five minutes because of the dullness. Go Figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blago setup for a Fitzkill?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I'm not an Emanuel fan, but he's not stupid. The last thing he's going to do is discuss quid pro quos over the phone with a guy he knows is under investigation for corruption. If he were involved in any finagling--which I think is highly unlikely-- it would be through a third party, with tracks very carefully covered. (A TalkingPointsMemo commenter points out that if any Blago-Emanuel conversations were recorded, the transcript will have to be entirely redacted with 'bleeps.') (That is, because they share a penchant for foul language.) I wrote about Obama covering his tracks earlier: http://tinyurl.com/5ebfr7 If there is any third party finagling to be done, Emanuel would be the finagler in chief. He has a history of picking a choosing who got to play in Congress. It wouldn't be a stretch to imagine him as the person most capable of engineering a sneaky pick for Obama's Senate seat. Prolly so, but so far it's no more than imagination, and there are distinct indications it may never be (e.g., Blago's outrage that Obama wasn't going to give him anything more than appreciation for his pick for Senate). My guess: If tapes turn up of a Blago-Emanuel conversation, they'll feature Emanuel ignoring or rejecting any suggestions by Blago that he receive something in return for the appointment. This scandal isn't going away but a regular application of media teflon will probably protect him as well as Obama. Actually, at this point the MSM is going all-out to try to suggest the Obama team was involved in the pay-to-play aspect. As Joe Conason says in his Salon column, the Clinton rules have been reinstituted. See Jamison Foser on Media Matters for details: http://mediamatters.org/items/200812120015?f=i_latest Fitzgerald, respected prosecutor of Scooter Libby, has many more cards to play at a Blagojevich's trial and I suspect Rezko is in good voice for a canary aria. So who knows where the winding trail of Obama's bodies under the bus will lead? The question is, will Obama have enough integrity to keep Fitzgerald in his administration as a US attorney? He said he would well before this broke, so it would be very difficult for him to back down now. I suspect if Obama ends up in any kind of trouble over this, it won't be because he has anything to hide, but because he *acts* as if he does, witholding instead of being generous with information. If that's the case, it will be partly the media's fault, because he knows they'll magnify out of all proportion anything that looks even faintly as if it could be funky, even if it isn't. But I'll be surprised if Obama ends up being anywhere near as transparent as he has promised, given his previous opacity on some potentially troublesome issues. On his transition Web site, there's a feature where visitors can ask questions they'd like Obama to respond to, and they can rate up or down other people's questions or rank them as inappropriate. Apparently Obama supporters have been busily labeling all questions about the Blago matter as inappropriate, including perfectly reasonable, respectful ones, pushing them off the main page (they haven't been removed entirely, but you have to search for them on the back pages).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
On Dec 13, 2008, at 7:29 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: f it were a law, and someone violated it by refusing to meditate 20 minutes twice a day, or by practicing some other form of prayer, meditation, or spiritual sadhana, what do you think would be a suitable punishment or fine? Make em take SCI--3X!--like I did. If that isn't punishment enough, I don't know what would be. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Purusha Program Newsletter
Peter my friend, here is that big fucking KING-SIZED BREAK you asked fordo you need anything else? BB --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: Give me a big fucking king-sized break! They transferred their worship of Maharishi to Tony. What the fuck! Bondage of the most glorious sattva. What could Tony possibly say as King that would having bearing on anything? Try, NOTHING. --- On Fri, 12/12/08, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: Rick Archer r...@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Purusha Program Newsletter To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 11:42 AM From: Maharishi Purusha Program Newsletter [mailto:newslet...@...] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 7:09 AM To: Maharishi Purusha Program Newsletter Subscriber Subject: Maharishi Purusha Program Newsletter Newsletter - December 12, 2008 Grand Purusha Celebration Update Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam to address Global Purusha Celebration Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam It is our joy to announce that Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam will address the Global Purusha Celebration in the Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome Saturday afternoon, December 13, 1:30 PM. The Celebration will also feature Dr. Bevan Morris, Prime Minister of the Global Country of World Peace, Raja John Hagelin, Raja of Invincible America and Purusha Raja Rafael David. For the first time the men of Fairfield will enjoy recitation of the Purusha Sukta by a group of over 700 Maharishi Vedic Pandits from their campus in Maharishi Vedic City. Participants will see and hear about the site of the Purusha Capital of the Western World in West Virginia and will also see a video from Purusha Rajas who are at the Brahmastan of India. A rich array of desserts and refreshments will be served. The 2009 Purusha Calendar will be distributed to everyone. Come and enjoy an afternoon of Vedic knowledge, experience and celebration with Purusha. When and where: 1:30 pm Saturday December 13, 2008 Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge, MUM campus For those who call in to the telephone bridge: Please remember to mute your telephone carefully, otherwise it will be difficult for others to hear the event. If you do not have a mute button on your phone, it is better not to use the phone bridge. For more information on the Purusha Program please go to: www.purusha.org For more details on the Grand Purusha Celebration, click here Jai Guru Dev The Maharishi Purusha Program Subscription Info ©2008 Maharishi Purusha Program. All rights reserved. You may automatically unsubscribe from the Maharishi Purusha Program Newsletter at any time by visiting the following URL: http://www.purusha.org/cgi- bin/dada/mail.cgi/u/newsletter/swinehart/blueridgemail.com If the above URL is inoperable, make sure that you have copied the entire address. Some mail readers will wrap a long URL and thus break this automatic unsubscribe mechanism. If you're still having trouble, please contact the list owner at: newslet...@...
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: The man is dead not even a year, and they chuck his Science of Creative Intelligence? SCI held out the hope that there was some profound, coherent theoretical basis for the practice of TM. But like everything else Maharishi did intellectually, it all boiled down to a long infomercial for TM and TM courses. Since it is really a bunch of circular arguments that TM is wonderful, it kind of makes sense that they need a new after sale marketing angle to convince people to take more courses. Back then Maharishi got so much mileage out of it being sciencey. Today's public has been around the marketing block more, so SCI's thin 3 out of 4 dentists surveyed style lacks the modern pizazz of Ronco's Ron Popeil pitching his latest pasta making gizmo. Plus today's public has been exposed to so many versions of Eastern philosophy that SCI would come off as more Mike Myers parody than intended. And now the organizations strong facade hiding its Hindu roots has really come down by its own choice. The movement has a real problem in appealing to a youthful public raised on the Internet and South Park. It is harder to find the wide eyed idealists, fat and happy enough with our baby boom economics to be so impractical. Like cigarette manufacturers, the future of the movement is probably in some other country, perhaps one of the Eastern Block countries or Russia if they ever take off economically. They might have the same spirituality/anti-establishment mix that made us such great marks. I'll bet that by now Maharishi expected more of a scientific consensus about how great all things TM were. But it hasn't happened. The believers think the science is compelling and the rest of the world gives it all a collective yawn and logs on to an instant teach yourself meditation site for FREE, supported by ads for yoga retreats, foam yoga mats made in China, and the latest Indian amalaki fruit elixir guaranteed to cure what ails ya (now with pomegranate juice added!) I think we all shared a very brief moment that may never be repeated. And although I tend to be a bit of a nostalgia sap, I know that is not such a bad thing. If the next generations is really gunna find the solution to ALL life's problems they need to check The Science of Creative Intelligence off their list and move one. We were the test and we gave it out all. It IS rather astounding. I was one who thoroughly enjoyed the course, although I took in Humboldt, Ca. at the Cobb Mountain Academy, and had an awesome instructor. So perhaps that had a lot to do with it. On the other hand, in the field, I taught it a time or two, and still enjoyed it. Then some time later, (within the last few years), I had occassion to see one of the tapes, and could not get through five minutes because of the dullness. Go Figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Auto Bailout Circus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: snip It is not the job of the American taxpayer to bail out badly run businesses period! Badly run business should fail and go away. It amazes me that some people think the proposed Big Three bailout would be purely for the benefit of the car companies, when their collapse would have a ripple effect that would impose widespread grinding hardship in the form of lost jobs, not just for those who work for the car companies but the employees of thousands of businesses that interface with the car companies in one way or another, as well as those that interface with *them*, and so on in ever-expanding circles. We should do what we can to prop them up until the economy is back on its feet. If we're going to let them fall apart, let's wait to do so until the economy is strong enough to withstand the blow. Otherwise the recession will be sigificantly worsened and prolonged.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Purusha Program Newsletter
A...the break I requested! Thank you Betty blue. By the way, you're looking quite lovely today! Your eyes are mesmerizing in the full-moon light --- On Sat, 12/13/08, bettyblue109 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: bettyblue109 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Purusha Program Newsletter To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 10:38 AM Peter my friend, here is that big fucking KING-SIZED BREAK you asked fordo you need anything else? BB --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: Give me a big fucking king-sized break! They transferred their worship of Maharishi to Tony. What the fuck! Bondage of the most glorious sattva. What could Tony possibly say as King that would having bearing on anything? Try, NOTHING. --- On Fri, 12/12/08, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: Rick Archer r...@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Purusha Program Newsletter To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 11:42 AM From: Maharishi Purusha Program Newsletter [mailto:newslet...@...] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 7:09 AM To: Maharishi Purusha Program Newsletter Subscriber Subject: Maharishi Purusha Program Newsletter Newsletter - December 12, 2008 Grand Purusha Celebration Update Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam to address Global Purusha Celebration Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam It is our joy to announce that Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam will address the Global Purusha Celebration in the Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome Saturday afternoon, December 13, 1:30 PM. The Celebration will also feature Dr. Bevan Morris, Prime Minister of the Global Country of World Peace, Raja John Hagelin, Raja of Invincible America and Purusha Raja Rafael David. For the first time the men of Fairfield will enjoy recitation of the Purusha Sukta by a group of over 700 Maharishi Vedic Pandits from their campus in Maharishi Vedic City. Participants will see and hear about the site of the Purusha Capital of the Western World in West Virginia and will also see a video from Purusha Rajas who are at the Brahmastan of India. A rich array of desserts and refreshments will be served. The 2009 Purusha Calendar will be distributed to everyone. Come and enjoy an afternoon of Vedic knowledge, experience and celebration with Purusha. When and where: 1:30 pm Saturday December 13, 2008 Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge, MUM campus For those who call in to the telephone bridge: Please remember to mute your telephone carefully, otherwise it will be difficult for others to hear the event. If you do not have a mute button on your phone, it is better not to use the phone bridge. For more information on the Purusha Program please go to: www.purusha.org For more details on the Grand Purusha Celebration, click here Jai Guru Dev The Maharishi Purusha Program Subscription Info ©2008 Maharishi Purusha Program. All rights reserved. You may automatically unsubscribe from the Maharishi Purusha Program Newsletter at any time by visiting the following URL: http://www.purusha.org/cgi- bin/dada/mail.cgi/u/newsletter/swinehart/blueridgemail.com If the above URL is inoperable, make sure that you have copied the entire address. Some mail readers will wrap a long URL and thus break this automatic unsubscribe mechanism. If you're still having trouble, please contact the list owner at: newslet...@... To subscribe, send a message to:
[FairfieldLife] Bettyblue Nude (almost)
Here's a pic of me and Bettyblue right after I got off of Purusha. She wears better underwear now. http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/images/NoelMegahey/bettyblue2.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bettyblue Nude (almost)
Peter that is my twin sister, boy we had you fooled! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: Here's a pic of me and Bettyblue right after I got off of Purusha. She wears better underwear now. http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/images/NoelMegahey/bettyblue2.jpg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Bettyblue Nude (almost)
By the way, she really manages my portfolio nicely. A few months ago she got me into this strange cash position. It was a little painful at first, but once I relaxed I reaped the benefits! --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Peter drpetersutp...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Peter drpetersutp...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Bettyblue Nude (almost) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 11:00 AM Here's a pic of me and Bettyblue right after I got off of Purusha. She wears better underwear now. http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/images/NoelMegahey/bettyblue2.jpg To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bettyblue Nude (almost)
Dang! I could never tell you guys apart! You little minx, you! --- On Sat, 12/13/08, bettyblue109 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: bettyblue109 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bettyblue Nude (almost) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 11:07 AM Peter that is my twin sister, boy we had you fooled! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: Here's a pic of me and Bettyblue right after I got off of Purusha. She wears better underwear now. http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/images/NoelMegahey/bettyblue2.jpg To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Should Obama tap Ron Paul?
Curtis, I couldn't resist! Probably one of the funniest crude phrases out there:Yeah, I could tap that! --- On Sat, 12/13/08, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Should Obama tap Ron Paul? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 10:20 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: Is Obama gay? Is Ron Paul gay? More to the point, is Obama a top or a bottom? Why does Obama want to tap Ron Paul's ass? Is this a Chicago thing? We are cut from the same cloth Peter. I couldn't get past that phrase: Should Obama be encouraged to tap Ron Paul? without the Bevis and Butthead in me giggling! --- On Fri, 12/12/08, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: From: raunchydog raunchy...@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Should Obama tap Ron Paul? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 11:51 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Put your partisanship in politics aside, and any prejudice against OffWorld as well, and answer me this: Should Obama be encouraged to tap Ron Paul? Pros and cons please. Both please. Or, just shut the fuck up because it just means you do not have a brain if you cannot do pros and cons in an open-minded honest way. Top rated on YouTube today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc1fDjS0YF4 OffWorld - pwns. They are polar opposites. Ergo, he should not tap him. Hell, they're not even close on the Iraq War, which used to be the only thing they had in common. Only psychotic nutjobs could have supported both men. The hatred in your heart is eating you up Shemp. Its your ego eating your body. You can feel it, but you won't admit it, because your ego has created the hate you express all the time. I feel sorry for you. You did not answer the question. Ron Paul and Obama were against the war. You, Raunchy, Richard, Mdixon, and a couple of others are the only people left on the planet who do not admit the Iraq war was wrong. I feel sorry for you and your hate-filled-friend you cuddle up to at night. OffWorld Where did you get the idea I thought the Iraq war O.K.? You are Off on that one for sure. What was the purpose of this question anyway? If you are a Ron Paul hold out, and you think Obama will give him the recognition you think his deserves, you are mistaken. I've already stated my reasons why I think it will not happen, so asking if Obama should tap Paul is completely irrelevant. If I were to frame my response with should I'd say should not because other than the being against Iraq War, they have zero common ground. Now that you got a few people to respond to you and none of their responses satisfy you, it's your turn to answer the question. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: -Original Message- From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davi...@...] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:40 PM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion Dear Colleagues, I have just posted on wwwTruthAboutTM.com a profound letter by a leading attorney on the question of whether the TM program is a religion. He considers the issue from the perspective of the legal definition of religion, and concludes that the TM program is not a religion. Who is this so called leading attorney? Why should we respect his opinion? And where is the legal definition of religion? There is no law which defines religion. Our definitions of religion in the west are colored by the types of religions we have in the west. This short article (not about TM) was helpful to me in understanding a bit about why the TBs are so adamant that TM (not just the technique, but the theories behind the technique) is scientific and not religious: http://tinyurl.com/6sbd8d http://www.svabhinava.org/HinduCivilization/MeeraNanda/ScienceHinduNationalism.htm The flip side of this relativism is what is called bandhu or correspondences in traditional Hindu texts and what postmodernists call bricolage or pastiche. If all ways of knowing or achieving nirvâna are considered merely partial or context-bound expressions of the same aspiration, or the same goal, to know reality of Brahman, then, one is free to simply treat different ways as functional homologues, as saying the same thing, or based upon similar fundamentals, differing only in their level of complexity and in their choice of words. If this is so, then one can safely take in an element from an alien tradition, for e.g. quantum physics which deals with non-causal, indeterminate mechanisms, and proclaim it to be similar to, saying the same thing as the Vedantic description of consciousness working through matter. The two become simply different standpoints, different perspectives on a given slice of reality. This kind of parallelism is repeatedly invoked by Hindu nationalists who simply proclaim that, to quote the words of Swami Vivekananda, the conclusions of modern science are the very conclusions Vedanta reached ages ago, only in modern science they are written in the language of matter (it is of no import that naturalism actually contradicts the present of spirit, or atman...) you appear generous and non-judgmental but you have evaded falsification by establishing a false analogy, or a false equivalence, between two entirely different or in fact contradictory systems of thought. Inotherwords, science and religion are the same thing.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Press Release from Share International
For years the world has been filled with miracles of all kinds. In April 1995 Time magazine devoted an eight-page spread to its cover story on miracles, and concluded: People are hungry for signs. Look now for the biggest miracle of all. In the very near future a large, bright star will appear in the sky visible to all throughout the world - night and day. Any idea what me means by very near future? Days, weeks, months? Unbelievable? Fantasy? No, a simple fact. Around a week later Maitreya, the World Teacher for all humanity, will begin His open emergence and - though not yet using the name Maitreya - will be interviewed on major US television. Is he Asian? (Has been living in the Asian community.) Any idea why he will be interviewed? In 1988 CNN and other media reported on Maitreya's miraculous appearance to 6,000 people in Nairobi, Kenya, on Saturday 11 June. A week before the event a remarkable sign occurred: On Saturday 4 June a big, bright star was sighted, unusually brighter than ordinary stars, reported Kenya Times editor Job Mutungi. Did astronomers offer any explanation for this?
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
I read in this forum years ago that Maharishi resisted the rigorous structure of the SCI course. He wanted to ramble and extemporize, but his secretaries insisted on a disciplined series of lessons. Perhaps the tapes are boring because he's not inspired. Comments interleaved below. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: dhamiltony2k5 wrote: The man is dead not even a year, and they chuck his Science of Creative Intelligence? It IS rather astounding. I was one who thoroughly enjoyed the course, although I took in Humboldt, Ca. at the Cobb Mountain Academy, and had an awesome instructor. So perhaps that had a lot to do with it. ;-) More on this below. On the other hand, in the field, I taught it a time or two, and still enjoyed it. Then some time later, (within the last few years), I had occassion to see one of the tapes, and could not get through five minutes because of the dullness. Go Figure. My experience with SCI was that the teacher made the difference. I took the SCI course two evenings a week during a long summer in 1975. John Lediaev, a brilliant math professor at the University of Iowa, taught the first half of the course. The classes ran long and we stayed up way too late every class, but the course had some electricity. Then John bolted for the first six-month course, and his then-wife Lucy took over. Lucy stuck to the schedule, for which I was grateful, but the classes lost some punch. When I taught SCI in Iowa City a few years later, I stuck to the schedule and ran, I guess, a boring class. I still embrace the SCI worldview - you know; consciousness becomes aware of itself, starts vibrating, creates the world and comes back around to know itself. I find it to be a robust way to look at life. Has the TMO for sure abandoned the SCI course? Is it reworking the curriculum? I wonder.
[FairfieldLife] Press release from Share Inernational
SHARE INTERNATIONAL www.share-international.org NEWS RELEASE NO. 87, 11 DECEMBER 2008 Christmas Miracle For years the world has been filled with miracles of all kinds. In April 1995 Time magazine devoted an eight-page spread to its cover story on miracles, and concluded: People are hungry for signs. Look now for the biggest miracle of all. In the very near future a large, bright star will appear in the sky visible to all throughout the world night and day. Unbelievable? Fantasy? No, a simple fact. Around a week later Maitreya, the World Teacher for all humanity, will begin His open emergence and though not yet using the name Maitreya will be interviewed on major US television. In 1988 CNN and other media reported on Maitreya's miraculous appearance to 6,000 people in Nairobi, Kenya, on Saturday 11 June. A week before the event a remarkable sign occurred: On Saturday 4 June a big, bright star was sighted, unusually brighter than ordinary stars, reported Kenya Times editor Job Mutungi. For over 30 years artist, author and lecturer Benjamin Creme has been preparing the way for the biggest event in history the emergence of Maitreya and His group, the Masters of Wisdom. In May 1982 Creme revealed at a packed press conference in Los Angeles that Maitreya had been living in the Asian community of London since 19 July 1977. Awaited by all faiths under different names, Maitreya is the Christ to Christians, the Imam Mahdi to Muslims, Krishna to Hindus, the Messiah to Jews, and Maitreya Buddha to Buddhists. He is the World Teacher for all, religious or not, an educator in the broadest sense. As a modern man concerned with today's problems, Maitreya works behind the scenes of our changing world. The outpouring of His extraordinary energy has been the stimulus for dramatic developments on many fronts: the ending of the cold war; the break-up of the Soviet Union; the reunification of Germany; the ending of apartheid in South Africa; the growing power of the people's voice, leading to demands for freedom and justice; and the worldwide focus on preserving the environment. Maitreya's message can be summarized as share and save the world. He will seek to inspire humanity to see itself as one family, and to create world peace through sharing, economic justice and global co-operation. With Maitreya and His group working openly in the world, humanity is assured not only of survival but of the creation of a brilliant new civilization. For more information visit: www.share-international.org Telephone: +44 (0)207 482 1113
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:23 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s? I was a newbie teacher on the very first six month course in Courcheval France, I was there too, so we must know each other. and had an opportunity to be with some of these guys. As reported previously, I remember one of our jobs was to answer mail from some the 108's on assignment in different parts of the world. In particular, I remember corresponding with one of the guys in Iran. His name was Michael __ (can't remember his last name). He was being harassed by the Savik (?), the Shah's secret police as they suspected he was a spy. He seemed pretty depressed about it. One of the 108's in our group was a guy named Ray Masson. I've often wondered what happened to him. Real nice guy. He was teaching TM and living in Phoenix for a while, but that was decades ago. Don't know where he is now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Press Release from Share International
On Dec 13, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Rick Archer wrote: For years the world has been filled with miracles of all kinds. In April 1995 Time magazine devoted an eight-page spread to its cover story on miracles, and concluded: People are hungry for signs. Look now for the biggest miracle of all. In the very near future a large, bright star will appear in the sky visible to all throughout the world – night and day. Any idea what me means by “very near future?” Days, weeks, months? Unbelievable? Fantasy? No, a simple fact. Around a week later Maitreya, the World Teacher for all humanity, will begin His open emergence and – though not yet using the name Maitreya – will be interviewed on major US television. Is he Asian? (Has been living in the Asian community.) Any idea why he will be interviewed? In 1988 CNN and other media reported on Maitreya's miraculous appearance to 6,000 people in Nairobi, Kenya, on Saturday 11 June. A week before the event a remarkable sign occurred: On Saturday 4 June a big, bright star was sighted, unusually brighter than ordinary stars, reported Kenya Times editor Job Mutungi. Did astronomers offer any explanation for this? Rick, I have the answers to all your questions, given to me through my own very special medium. I'll relate them to you free of charge. All I ask is a simple, $1,000,000 free will donation into my personal bank account. Details to follow. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
Inotherwords, science and religion are the same thing. It helps is you have a misunderstanding of and contempt for the the methods of science. Maharishi's belief system is basically unfalsifiable assertions on parade claiming to be science. (I was going to put some lipstick on a pig but it wouldn't hold still after the unfortunate mascara incident.) It also helps if you have a condescending view of religion (and I should know) which holds your Vedic system to be the root, and all religions to be the more limited branches of the tree. This view gives you permission to tell people what they need to hear for their own good so they can do TM and revive the root of their own tradition through the magical connection with being supplied by TM (Trademark protected.) David's attempt to make the case for TM (even just the practice) not being a belief system seems bogus to me. There are so many beliefs that you have to buy into to support the practice of TM and their source is all the same: Maharishi said so. What happens for long term practicers IMO is that they forget how many beliefs have to be in place to make it all work because they have become unconscious presuppositions which are beyond challenge. Our past discussion about the complex stress release normalizing the nervous system belief package is a case in point. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: -Original Message- From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davi...@] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:40 PM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion Dear Colleagues, I have just posted on wwwTruthAboutTM.com a profound letter by a leading attorney on the question of whether the TM program is a religion. He considers the issue from the perspective of the legal definition of religion, and concludes that the TM program is not a religion. Who is this so called leading attorney? Why should we respect his opinion? And where is the legal definition of religion? There is no law which defines religion. Our definitions of religion in the west are colored by the types of religions we have in the west. This short article (not about TM) was helpful to me in understanding a bit about why the TBs are so adamant that TM (not just the technique, but the theories behind the technique) is scientific and not religious: http://tinyurl.com/6sbd8d http://www.svabhinava.org/HinduCivilization/MeeraNanda/ScienceHinduNationalism.htm The flip side of this relativism is what is called bandhu or correspondences in traditional Hindu texts and what postmodernists call bricolage or pastiche. If all ways of knowing or achieving nirvâna are considered merely partial or context-bound expressions of the same aspiration, or the same goal, to know reality of Brahman, then, one is free to simply treat different ways as functional homologues, as saying the same thing, or based upon similar fundamentals, differing only in their level of complexity and in their choice of words. If this is so, then one can safely take in an element from an alien tradition, for e.g. quantum physics which deals with non-causal, indeterminate mechanisms, and proclaim it to be similar to, saying the same thing as the Vedantic description of consciousness working through matter. The two become simply different standpoints, different perspectives on a given slice of reality. This kind of parallelism is repeatedly invoked by Hindu nationalists who simply proclaim that, to quote the words of Swami Vivekananda, the conclusions of modern science are the very conclusions Vedanta reached ages ago, only in modern science they are written in the language of matter (it is of no import that naturalism actually contradicts the present of spirit, or atman...) you appear generous and non-judgmental but you have evaded falsification by establishing a false analogy, or a false equivalence, between two entirely different or in fact contradictory systems of thought. Inotherwords, science and religion are the same thing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
They are the current day TM Rajas
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: David's attempt to make the case for TM (even just the practice) not being a belief system seems bogus to me. There are so many beliefs that you have to buy into to support the practice of TM and their source is all the same: Maharishi said so. What happens for long term practicers IMO is that they forget how many beliefs have to be in place to make it all work because they have become unconscious presuppositions which are beyond challenge. Our past discussion about the complex stress release normalizing the nervous system belief package is a case in point. Oh yes, you have to take this on faith. They say you do not have to believe anything to practice TM, but I say why would you practice TM unless you believed in it? You don't have to believe in God to pray either. Both are just techniques, after all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: They are the current day TM Rajas Sounds like the Crazy 88s from Kill Bill. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdjuS17DGlA
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: I was a newbie teacher on the very first six month course in Courcheval France, I was there too, so we must know each other. Well, everyone knows you Rick. You were always in the midst of things.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Press release from Share Inernational
Maitreya's message can be summarized as share and save the world. He will seek to inspire humanity to see itself as one family, and to create world peace through sharing, economic justice and global co-operation. So this is what he's got? The same message that I just heard over coffee in my local Starbucks from two white guys with their dreadlocks put up in a hemp woven beehive bun hat like a rasta Marge Simpson, and whose bodies gave off a constant perfume of high resin skunk weed and patchouli? This is what God has to say to us? The best he can do to help is to lay on us the equivalent of a Hallmark card? Tell him that if he can't show up with, at the very least, a cure for childhood cancer, he might as well stay in hiding. We already have enough people for the next Reggae Sunsplash featuring the surviving members of Bob Marley's Wailers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: SHARE INTERNATIONAL www.share-international.org NEWS RELEASE NO. 87, 11 DECEMBER 2008 Christmas Miracle For years the world has been filled with miracles of all kinds. In April 1995 Time magazine devoted an eight-page spread to its cover story on miracles, and concluded: People are hungry for signs. Look now for the biggest miracle of all. In the very near future a large, bright star will appear in the sky visible to all throughout the world night and day. Unbelievable? Fantasy? No, a simple fact. Around a week later Maitreya, the World Teacher for all humanity, will begin His open emergence and though not yet using the name Maitreya will be interviewed on major US television. In 1988 CNN and other media reported on Maitreya's miraculous appearance to 6,000 people in Nairobi, Kenya, on Saturday 11 June. A week before the event a remarkable sign occurred: On Saturday 4 June a big, bright star was sighted, unusually brighter than ordinary stars, reported Kenya Times editor Job Mutungi. For over 30 years artist, author and lecturer Benjamin Creme has been preparing the way for the biggest event in history the emergence of Maitreya and His group, the Masters of Wisdom. In May 1982 Creme revealed at a packed press conference in Los Angeles that Maitreya had been living in the Asian community of London since 19 July 1977. Awaited by all faiths under different names, Maitreya is the Christ to Christians, the Imam Mahdi to Muslims, Krishna to Hindus, the Messiah to Jews, and Maitreya Buddha to Buddhists. He is the World Teacher for all, religious or not, an educator in the broadest sense. As a modern man concerned with today's problems, Maitreya works behind the scenes of our changing world. The outpouring of His extraordinary energy has been the stimulus for dramatic developments on many fronts: the ending of the cold war; the break-up of the Soviet Union; the reunification of Germany; the ending of apartheid in South Africa; the growing power of the people's voice, leading to demands for freedom and justice; and the worldwide focus on preserving the environment. Maitreya's message can be summarized as share and save the world. He will seek to inspire humanity to see itself as one family, and to create world peace through sharing, economic justice and global co-operation. With Maitreya and His group working openly in the world, humanity is assured not only of survival but of the creation of a brilliant new civilization. For more information visit: www.share-international.org Telephone: +44 (0)207 482 1113
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:23 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s? I was a newbie teacher on the very first six month course in Courcheval France, I was there too, so we must know each other. Everyone knows you Rick. You were always in the midst of things. and had an opportunity to be with some of these guys. As reported previously, I remember one of our jobs was to answer mail from some the 108's on assignment in different parts of the world. In particular, I remember corresponding with one of the guys in Iran. His name was Michael __ (can't remember his last name). He was being harassed by the Savik (?), the Shah's secret police as they suspected he was a spy. He seemed pretty depressed about it. One of the 108's in our group was a guy named Ray Masson. I've often wondered what happened to him. Real nice guy. He was teaching TM and living in Phoenix for a while, but that was decades ago. Don't know where he is now. What a strange thought. Ray would be close to 70 know. Hard to get my head around that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Press Release from Share International
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Dec 13, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Rick Archer wrote: For years the world has been filled with miracles of all kinds. In April 1995 Time magazine devoted an eight-page spread to its cover story on miracles, and concluded: People are hungry for signs. Look now for the biggest miracle of all. In the very near future a large, bright star will appear in the sky visible to all throughout the world night and day. Any idea what me means by very near future? Days, weeks, months? It is more like Zeno's paradox. We ARE almost there, but to get there, you must first go half the distance to there, and then half of that distance, and then half of that distance. The result being that you never get there Unbelievable? Fantasy? No, a simple fact. Around a week later Maitreya, the World Teacher for all humanity, will begin His open emergence and though not yet using the name Maitreya will be interviewed on major US television. Is he Asian? (Has been living in the Asian community.) Any idea why he will be interviewed? In 1988 CNN and other media reported on Maitreya's miraculous appearance to 6,000 people in Nairobi, Kenya, on Saturday 11 June. A week before the event a remarkable sign occurred: On Saturday 4 June a big, bright star was sighted, unusually brighter than ordinary stars, reported Kenya Times editor Job Mutungi. Did astronomers offer any explanation for this? Rick, I have the answers to all your questions, given to me through my own very special medium. I'll relate them to you free of charge. All I ask is a simple, $1,000,000 free will donation into my personal bank account. Details to follow. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: snip Oh yes, you have to take this on faith. They say you do not have to believe anything to practice TM, but I say why would you practice TM unless you believed in it? Because you find it has beneficial effects in your life??? What a strange question.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Purusha Program Newsletter
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: On Dec 12, 2008, at 7:11 PM, Peter wrote: Give me a big fucking king-sized break! They transferred their worship of Maharishi to Tony. What the fuck! Bondage of the most glorious sattva. What could Tony possibly say as King that would having bearing on anything? Try, NOTHING. Have you heard him speak? He does have a very appropriate directness and natural, unfabricated elegance about him--but that is common for many people who've done a lot of Saraswati mantra. Yes, I have heard him speak. Quite direct and humble. Likeable fellow. I will be dialing into today's Purusha celebration conference call to listen to him and I'm packing to go to IA for the third time. I'm perhaps one of just a few people who participate here (albeit just a little) who still has a valid Dome badge and still goes on courses. FFL is my pressure relief valve. Reading here helps me deal with the mind fuck of the TMO and those endlessly boring presentations we have to listen to. I thank someone for observing the obvious the other day: that we don't have speakers with charisma anymore since MMY bought the farm. I was wondering what was lacking (beyond sincerity, truthfulness and reality).
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:56 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:23 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s? I was a newbie teacher on the very first six month course in Courcheval France, I was there too, so we must know each other. Everyone knows you Rick. You were always in the midst of things. Because I was an egotistical fool who was always compulsively shooting his mouth off. I'm sure Nabby will concur.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Press Release from Share International
Any idea what me means by “very near future?” Days, weeks, months? In this generation. :) Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Press Release from Share International To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 11:35 AM For years the world has been filled with miracles of all kinds. In April 1995 Time magazine devoted an eight-page spread to its cover story on miracles, and concluded: People are hungry for signs. Look now for the biggest miracle of all. In the very near future a large, bright star will appear in the sky visible to all throughout the world – night and day. Any idea what me means by “very near future?” Days, weeks, months? Unbelievable? Fantasy? No, a simple fact. Around a week later Maitreya, the World Teacher for all humanity, will begin His open emergence and – though not yet using the name Maitreya – will be interviewed on major US television. Is he Asian? (Has been living in the Asian community.) Any idea why he will be interviewed? In 1988 CNN and other media reported on Maitreya's miraculous appearance to 6,000 people in Nairobi, Kenya, on Saturday 11 June. A week before the event a remarkable sign occurred: On Saturday 4 June a big, bright star was sighted, unusually brighter than ordinary stars, reported Kenya Times editor Job Mutungi. Did astronomers offer any explanation for this?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
Rick, for some reason the word egotistical and you do not usually occur in the same sentence. ;-) --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 12:18 PM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:56 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:23 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s? I was a newbie teacher on the very first six month course in Courcheval France, I was there too, so we must know each other. Everyone knows you Rick. You were always in the midst of things. Because I was an egotistical fool who was always compulsively shooting his mouth off. I’m sure Nabby will concur.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Opps, get down to page 3 and SCI appears is mighty religious. People like DOJ say that the TM technique is not religious in and of itself. Simple TM doesn't appear overly strange to people and they might experience some relaxation benefit without buying into the whole TM metaphysical shebang. Note that DOJ says nothing about God consciousness or the like when he talks about the positive effects of TM. I bet $10 that not one non-believer has ever reached God consciousness. Without the belief system,which must be taken on faith, my bet is that most likely give TM up. (There is no research on this and can't be without the TMO's cooperation). Anecdotally, everyone I personally know who learned TM 2 X 20 no longer meditate except for the ones who went on to learn the siddhis and who buy into the theories of consciousness, etc. I can't imagine doing the siddhis unless I at least bought some of the theory behind them. Otherwise, it is just plan weird with the grunting and hopping and bronchial tubes, etc., no ifs, ands or buts about it. So anyone have any actual evidence that MUM has dropped SCI?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Press Release from Share International
Rick, I have the answers to all your questions, given to me through my own very special medium. I'll relate them to you free of charge. All I ask is a simple, $1,000,000 free will donation into my personal bank account. Details to follow. Sal I heard there was an option with the original enlightenment course for the course participants to gain admission for only $600,000, the catch being they would not get the lifetime of yagyas afterward that I can't imagine the TMO reneged on for the million dollar group. Can you offer Rick that option, Sal, or is it a mill firm? Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com wrote: From: Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Press Release from Share International To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 11:42 AM On Dec 13, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Rick Archer wrote: For years the world has been filled with miracles of all kinds. In April 1995 Time magazine devoted an eight-page spread to its cover story on miracles, and concluded: People are hungry for signs. Look now for the biggest miracle of all. In the very near future a large, bright star will appear in the sky visible to all throughout the world – night and day. Any idea what me means by “very near future?” Days, weeks, months? Unbelievable? Fantasy? No, a simple fact. Around a week later Maitreya, the World Teacher for all humanity, will begin His open emergence and – though not yet using the name Maitreya – will be interviewed on major US television. Is he Asian? (Has been living in the Asian community.) Any idea why he will be interviewed? In 1988 CNN and other media reported on Maitreya's miraculous appearance to 6,000 people in Nairobi, Kenya, on Saturday 11 June. A week before the event a remarkable sign occurred: On Saturday 4 June a big, bright star was sighted, unusually brighter than ordinary stars, reported Kenya Times editor Job Mutungi. Did astronomers offer any explanation for this? Rick, I have the answers to all your questions, given to me through my own very special medium. I'll relate them to you free of charge. All I ask is a simple, $1,000,000 free will donation into my personal bank account. Details to follow. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: snip Oh yes, you have to take this on faith. They say you do not have to believe anything to practice TM, but I say why would you practice TM unless you believed in it? Because you find it has beneficial effects in your life??? What a strange question. Not to me. The question is causality and the parameters of how you are measuring the benifits. I'll give you an example. Today I feel a bit extra energetic and able to take on tasks that I had been putting off. If I had meditated this morning I would have ascribed this feeling today to that. But since I did a little extra exercise yesterday and went to bed a bit earlier than usual, I give that the credit. The truth is that I really don't know the cause, I'm just guessing. So these are the variables that I pay attention to as a non meditator, and if I feel extra clear those variables get the credit. Now I have gone back and forth with these variables many many times, unlike a regular meditator who wont stop for weeks and then star again repeatedly as a test. But the truth is that I still don't understand all the variables in how I feel each day. I know that once you get used to meditating you miss it and feel better when you do it. But if you stop for a while then you stop feeling those ups and downs. That is the problem I have with me being a regular meditator. I feel the need for rest in the afternoon that I never feel if have stopped meditating for a while. So I still think it comes down to the belief that TM is causing how you feel on any certain day, rather than the new vitamin or exercise or health food, or the moon phase, or whatever is your personal causative belief agent in your life.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:29 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s? Rick, for some reason the word egotistical and you do not usually occur in the same sentence. ;-) Depends on who's uttering the sentence. .
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Auto Bailout Circus
authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: snip It is not the job of the American taxpayer to bail out badly run businesses period! Badly run business should fail and go away. It amazes me that some people think the proposed Big Three bailout would be purely for the benefit of the car companies, when their collapse would have a ripple effect that would impose widespread grinding hardship in the form of lost jobs, not just for those who work for the car companies but the employees of thousands of businesses that interface with the car companies in one way or another, as well as those that interface with *them*, and so on in ever-expanding circles. We should do what we can to prop them up until the economy is back on its feet. If we're going to let them fall apart, let's wait to do so until the economy is strong enough to withstand the blow. Otherwise the recession will be sigificantly worsened and prolonged. Just one problem, the taxpayers can't afford to prop them up. Are you suggesting that the wealthiest 1% prop them up? That might be okay with me but there are other solutions that have taken place in other countries such as Argentina: let the union workers take over the companies. Boot the pompous, overpaid CEOs out. Nobody is that good at running a company anyway. Stockholders are fools for allowing such enormous salaries. There are plenty people who can do that at far less a price. And since you probably don't bother to read me much (as I you) then you missed that being a professional musician most of my life where you are most of time going from job to job I don't have much sympathy for those afraid of losing their jobs. If anything needs to be done for the people out of work is to help them out of any emotional depression they get into and provide counseling to them so they can see how their skills can be applied to other areas. And the bottom line is always that we have more people than we have jobs so we need to consider changing the whole way society works and probably just pay everyone a stipend. That's a very major change that the world needs to be drug kicking and screaming into.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religio
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 5:12 AM, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: The man is dead not even a year, and they chuck his Science of Creative Intelligence? what are they doing with all his money? Thanks for pointing that out. There is such an emphasis on continuity in the presentations that one intellectually but not emotionally knows he's dead. I've heard over and over again that consciousness maintains its own physiology and therefore Maharishi lives. Since he is dead a year, I asked the reverse of the question. Why hasn't much appeared to have changed in a year? I wonder what changes are coming? Merely making the TMO appear more secular would be quite a change, if it happens. We were warned to cool it at the dining hall in the Raj because outside business experts are often invited to advise the Raj and MAPI how to be marketable to the mainstream. Last time I stayed at the Rukmapura I was amazed to meet people who weren't TM oriented lodging there. And that was right after Maharishi died.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blago setup for a Fitzkill?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I wrote about Obama covering his tracks earlier: http://tinyurl.com/5ebfr7 If there is any third party finagling to be done, Emanuel would be the finagler in chief. He has a history of picking a choosing who got to play in Congress. It wouldn't be a stretch to imagine him as the person most capable of engineering a sneaky pick for Obama's Senate seat. Prolly so, but so far it's no more than imagination, and there are distinct indications it may never be (e.g., Blago's outrage that Obama wasn't going to give him anything more than appreciation for his pick for Senate). My guess: If tapes turn up of a Blago-Emanuel conversation, they'll feature Emanuel ignoring or rejecting any suggestions by Blago that he receive something in return for the appointment. If tapes exist there could have been a series of offers and counter offers before Emanuel said, No Deal The timing of conversations and sequence of events would figure into Fitzgerald's case. Imagination, yes but smelling smoke from Emanuel's pants on fire wouldn't be far from the truth. This scandal isn't going away but a regular application of media teflon will probably protect him as well as Obama. Actually, at this point the MSM is going all-out to try to suggest the Obama team was involved in the pay-to-play aspect. As Joe Conason says in his Salon column, the Clinton rules have been reinstituted. See Jamison Foser on Media Matters for details: http://mediamatters.org/items/200812120015?f=i_latest This a good historical perspective on the Clinton's. But, I am so accustomed to Obama getting media love that I can't help thinking Media Matters, long-time friend of Obama, has its own agenda to help Obama play the victim card and getting sympathy for weathering an under attack from the media. I don't buy it. Fitzgerald, respected prosecutor of Scooter Libby, has many more cards to play at a Blagojevich's trial and I suspect Rezko is in good voice for a canary aria. So who knows where the winding trail of Obama's bodies under the bus will lead? The question is, will Obama have enough integrity to keep Fitzgerald in his administration as a US attorney? He said he would well before this broke, so it would be very difficult for him to back down now. I suspect if Obama ends up in any kind of trouble over this, it won't be because he has anything to hide, but because he *acts* as if he does, witholding instead of being generous with information. We may never know whether or not he has anything to hide but you're right about getting in trouble, keeping the story alive, by appearing to have something to hide. Ed Rendell criticized team Obama for not being more upfront. American Thinker has an interesting take of it. http://tinyurl.com/5dyv3q If that's the case, it will be partly the media's fault, because he knows they'll magnify out of all proportion anything that looks even faintly as if it could be funky, even if it isn't. But I'll be surprised if Obama ends up being anywhere near as transparent as he has promised, given his previous opacity on some potentially troublesome issues. Transparency is an illusion in politics. It's a game of catch 22 whether the pol is guilty as sin or not. I blame the media as well. It has become so debased it's nearly impossible to sort fact from fiction anymore and the idiot TV pundits don't help the situation, endlessly spinning to favor one side or the other. I would trade the whole pack of them for one Uncle Walter Cronkite any day. On his transition Web site, there's a feature where visitors can ask questions they'd like Obama to respond to, and they can rate up or down other people's questions or rank them as inappropriate. Apparently Obama supporters have been busily labeling all questions about the Blago matter as inappropriate, including perfectly reasonable, respectful ones, pushing them off the main page (they haven't been removed entirely, but you have to search for them on the back pages). It's another version of his Fight the Smears page. These guys are experts at dissembling information that might cause Obama any embarrassment. Rove did it for Bush and Obama's presidency has David Axelrod and an army of bloggers doing it for him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
Of all the words that might well be applied to Maharishi's teachings, the words religious, cultic, Hindu, are probably the most apt. Maharishi was initially very open about the fact that TM had everything to do with gods and that selection of the mantra was solely based on which god you liked. It's true, I have a recording of him saying just this. He was telling this to westerners in the USA in 1959. So what changed? It seems that Maharishi eventually discovered that westerners were largely giving up on religion, in fact for many the word religion was fast becoming a dirty word. I guess it is possible that those in charge of PR at TM HQ do not know the history of the movement. So they come up with their 'look we can prove it is not a religion!' stance. Like the shift from casual clothes to cult-like business suits, discredit them and their verbose attempts to deny TM's religious connections only serve to make them look untrustworthy. For centuries people have been settling down with their 'guru mantra' and 'meditating' - letting go of the mantra and 'transcending'. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote: Although the meditation itself is not (or at least doesn't *have* to be done as) a religious practice, the puja certainly is and every initiator is schooled and tested on exactly what the Sanskrit words mean and what internal feelings those words are supposed to evoke in the initiator. To say that the teacher may not know what they mean is not just disingenuous, it's a lie. And the puja unquestionably deals with and articulates a point of view regarding the ultimate truth. The initiator may not ultimately subscribe to the teachings contained in the puja, but we were all mightily encouraged to adopt and conform to those teachings and most, if not all my initiator colleagues did, and without question. If anything, we were eager to be taught what it really meant and what was the real truth behind what it was we were initiating people into. It seems absurd to me that movement apologists continue dancing around the issue. Who cares? For myself, I'm happy to have been a devoted member of a hindu cult; I'm happy to continue to subscribe to some of the tenets, though not as fervently or dogmatically as in the past; but pujas and yagyas and all day meditation programs at one end of the spectrum are certainly religious, even if twice daily meditation at the other end of the spectrum may not be. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: -Original Message- From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davi...@] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:40 PM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion Dear Colleagues, I have just posted on wwwTruthAboutTM.com a profound letter by a leading attorney on the question of whether the TM program is a religion. He considers the issue from the perspective of the legal definition of religion, and concludes that the TM program is not a religion. Citing legal precedents, he argues that allowing TM practice in schools during quiet time does not conflict with the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. All the best, David - Individual Effects The Issue: Is the Transcendental Meditation program a religion? Carter Phillips Letter Re the Constitutionality of the TM Program in Public Schools. http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/ind ex .cfm#Phillips_letter#Phillips_letter -- -- -- -- --- April 9, 2007 Re: Transcendental Meditation Program in Public Schools Constitutional To Whom It May Concern: We have been asked to respond to concerns that the Transcendental Meditation (TM) Program, implemented in public schools, may violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. The Establishment Clause generally forecloses school sanctioned religious activity. Because the TM program is not a religious activity, the Establishment Clause does not preclude its use in public schools. Even if the TM program were deemed to be a religious activity, as long as it is implemented as part of a Quiet Time program, its practice in the public schools still would not violate the First Amendment. BACKGROUND The TM Program in public schools voluntarily instructs students in the beneficial Transcendental Meditation technique that they can practice for 15 to 20 minutes twice a day during a school's Quiet Time program The program has been implemented successfully in public schools and other institutions
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
On Dec 13, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Peter wrote: Rick, for some reason the word egotistical and you do not usually occur in the same sentence. ;-) But fool? Now that's a different story. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:29 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s? Rick, for some reason the word egotistical and you do not usually occur in the same sentence. ;-) Depends on who's uttering the sentence. Indeed. Having sat next to Rick on a couple of Wednesday nights I'd say Rick's quietness tends to convey the wrong first impression of him. There's tremendous power of self assuredness when Rick speaks. I wouldn't say egotistical so much as a well developed sense of self.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: -Original Message- From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davi...@] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:40 PM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion Dear Colleagues, I have just posted on wwwTruthAboutTM.com a profound letter by a leading attorney on the question of whether the TM program is a religion. He considers the issue from the perspective of the legal definition of religion, and concludes that the TM program is not a religion. Who is this so called leading attorney? Why should we respect his opinion? http://www.sidley.com/ourpeople/detail.aspx?attorney=123 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidley_Austin According to Wikipedia, President-elect Barack Obama was a summer associate in the Chicago office, but never joined the firm as a full-time associate. He met his wife, Michelle Obama (who was an associate at Sidley Austin at the time), while he was a summer associate at the firm. (For the gotcha crowd: This is just an interesting sidelight, not an argument for respecting Phillips's opinon, except perhaps to document that Sidley isn't some fly-by-night operation.) And where is the legal definition of religion? There is no law which defines religion. Phillips's letter argues that TM does not meet the definition of religion used by the courts to decide First Amendment (establishment clause) cases. It seems rather an obscurantist quibble to suggest this doesn't amount to a legal definition of religion. Our definitions of religion in the west are colored by the types of religions we have in the west. Irrelevant in the context of the definition used for First Amendment purposes. Anyone who is interested in becoming better informed on this issue might want to read a very thorough discussion by one of the appeals court judges in the Malnak v. Yogi case. It's in FFL's Files section: http://tinyurl.com/5lwzv4 Note that Judge Adams was exploring whether *TM + SCI* met the constitutional definition of a religion (this was a concurring opinion; the three judges were unanimous that TM + SCI did meet it). Phillips is discussing the same thing but with regard only to TM, the technique. This short article (not about TM) was helpful to me in understanding a bit about why the TBs are so adamant that TM (not just the technique, but the theories behind the technique) is scientific and not religious: But only a bit. The reasons are actually both more and less than what the quoted article proposes. For a much more complete understanding, see Ken Wilber's book Eye to Eye, chapters 1 and 2. (Wilber is not a TMer.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Press Release from Share International
On Dec 13, 2008, at 11:32 AM, gullible fool wrote: Rick, I have the answers to all your questions, given to me through my own very special medium. I'll relate them to you free of charge. All I ask is a simple, $1,000,000 free will donation into my personal bank account. Details to follow. Sal I heard there was an option with the original enlightenment course for the course participants togain admission for only $600,000, the catch being they would not get the lifetime of yagyas afterward that I can't imagine the TMO reneged on for the million dollar group. Can you offer Rick that option, Sal, or is it a mill firm? It's never firm, gull. Anything over that will also be acceptable. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Dec 13, 2008, at 7:29 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: f it were a law, and someone violated it by refusing to meditate 20 minutes twice a day, or by practicing some other form of prayer, meditation, or spiritual sadhana, what do you think would be a suitable punishment or fine? Make em take SCI--3X!--like I did. If that isn't punishment enough, I don't know what would be. Sal Well, at least you attained VC victim consciousness. That's something worth talking about, isn't it?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
On Dec 13, 2008, at 12:17 PM, raunchydog wrote: On Dec 13, 2008, at 7:29 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: f it were a law, and someone violated it by refusing to meditate 20 minutes twice a day, or by practicing some other form of prayer, meditation, or spiritual sadhana, what do you think would be a suitable punishment or fine? Make em take SCI--3X!--like I did. If that isn't punishment enough, I don't know what would be. Sal Well, at least you attained VC victim consciousness. That's something worth talking about, isn't it? Nah, I stopped just before that level, at BC--bullshit consciousness. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
On Dec 13, 2008, at 12:38 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I know that once you get used to meditating you miss it and feel better when you do it. But if you stop for a while then you stop feeling those ups and downs. That is the problem I have with me being a regular meditator. I feel the need for rest in the afternoon that I never feel if have stopped meditating for a while. Interesting insight, I had the same experience--I craved my 20 min. dive and esp. the corpse pose afterwards and the shakti working thru my body while I witnessed. When I gave up the belief, which I was conditioned on, that meditation had to be done before dinner, the whole deep rest trip and more importantly for me, meditating with my eyes closed (now mostly they're open), that fell away. Instead of transcending and then engaging in activity, eyes open meditation has one constantly alternating between inner and outer, so the buzz of withdrawal is replaced by a solid in the worldness and in the bodyness. Esp. if you do some walking meditation afterwards. Now I meditate whether I ate of not, I don't retreat into a hypnotic me-trance and the sense of connectedness, alertness and expansion of awareness is finer and more long-lasting. The need to retreat into something just isn't there anymore. Bye-bye withdrawn me decade, hello interconnected world and beings. I remember watching the recent BBC special on meditation which had a section on TM and FF. They go to interview this one TM physician via international teleconferencing--and the guys in meditation when he comes up on the TV. You can tell he's clearly aware that the others are waiting for him to come out of his hole, so the TM PR guy who's with the BBC scientist-reporter explains 'when we're in TM it's a deep rest, so we come out slowly, blah blah blah', I just had to chuckle at the robotic belief repetition and how little I missed that (now seeming) rather lame belief.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blago setup for a Fitzkill?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Actually, at this point the MSM is going all-out to try to suggest the Obama team was involved in the pay-to-play aspect. As Joe Conason says in his Salon column, the Clinton rules have been reinstituted. See Jamison Foser on Media Matters for details: http://mediamatters.org/items/200812120015?f=i_latest This a good historical perspective on the Clinton's. But, I am so accustomed to Obama getting media love that I can't help thinking Media Matters, long-time friend of Obama, has its own agenda to help Obama play the victim card and getting sympathy for weathering an under attack from the media. I don't buy it. I think he's on target with this, though. It's not just a retrospective on the Clinton rules; he quotes from various MSM reports on the Blago mess as examples of how they've been revived. I had already read many of these stories and had the same impression before I ever read his piece.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of I am the eternal Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s? On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com mailto:rick%40searchsummit.com wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:29 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s? Rick, for some reason the word egotistical and you do not usually occur in the same sentence. ;-) Depends on who's uttering the sentence. Indeed. Having sat next to Rick on a couple of Wednesday nights I'd say Rick's quietness tends to convey the wrong first impression of him. There's tremendous power of self assuredness when Rick speaks. I wouldn't say egotistical so much as a well developed sense of self. Thanks for the compliment, but 30 years ago, I was rather full of myself. Even my mother called me on it. I think being a Golden Boy regional lecturer/TTC course leader dude had gone to my head.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: snip Oh yes, you have to take this on faith. They say you do not have to believe anything to practice TM, but I say why would you practice TM unless you believed in it? Because you find it has beneficial effects in your life??? What a strange question. Not to me. The question is causality and the parameters of how you are measuring the benifits. I'll give you an example. Today I feel a bit extra energetic and able to take on tasks that I had been putting off. If I had meditated this morning I would have ascribed this feeling today to that. But since I did a little extra exercise yesterday and went to bed a bit earlier than usual, I give that the credit. The truth is that I really don't know the cause, I'm just guessing. Well, but of course we could say that about practically anything. If you *consistently* feel more energetic after you've begun a practice when you haven't made any other lifestyle changes, it seems reasonable to attribute the improvement to the practice. snip Now I have gone back and forth with these variables many many times, unlike a regular meditator who wont stop for weeks and then star again repeatedly as a test. I did that as a test a number of times. snip I know that once you get used to meditating you miss it and feel better when you do it. I never had that experience. When I'd stop, I'd feel perfectly fine for awhile, then gradually find myself slipping back to the way I used to feel before I started TM. snip So I still think it comes down to the belief that TM is causing how you feel on any certain day, rather than the new vitamin or exercise or health food, or the moon phase, or whatever is your personal causative belief agent in your life. I don't think TM is causing how I feel on any certain day. It's been an overall, holistic, consistent, steady improvement over time. I don't think Ruth was suggesting the belief in question was that you feel better, in any case. I think she was saying you continue to do it because you believe TM is good for you even if you never experience any improvements.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Mamet's take on Blagojevich
David Mamet has taken a very interesting political journey in his life. The son of a socialist lawyer in Chicago, he's been the Left most of his life. Recently, he came out of the closet...the Conservative Closet that is...in a piece for the Village Voice entitled Why I am no longer a 'brain-dead liberal' : http://tinyurl.com/6jg3vj --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Priceless. :-) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-mamet/my-take-on- blagojevich_b_150056.html Editor's Note: More than one commentator, including our own Jason Linkins, has compared Gov. Rod Blagojevich's obscenity-filled wiretapped conversations to the profane poetry of a David Mamet play. So we asked Mamet for his take on Blagojevich. I am from Chicago, and, so, having been disillusioned with politics at an early age I do not become involved. The only reason I vote is because they pay me.
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi: 'Which god you like?' - USA 1959
Questioner - Maharishi, how may a person find, you know, which of the, of the, the five materials [elements?] are predominant in them? Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - They, they have their method of, uh, oh, from the tendencies they know, from the, from the cut of the face they know. From the tendency. From the tendency. Q - Do you take that into consideration when you give the person a mantra? M M Y - I don't go into all these vibrations, botherations. I ask him Which god you like? He says Shiva - Okay, Shiva! [Maharishi laughs, very loudly] Where is the time to go into complications and all that? Ask him What he like? and that is it. [more laughter, the laughter now sounding strained] And somebody comes, Oh my, I don't have any liking for anybody, then I trace behind, And then, When you were young? and Which temple you were going more? and What your father was worshipping? and then he comes round. [Maharishi resumes the laughter] Q - How would you apply this to the westerners? M M Y - Oh here we don't go into these minute details. [more strained laughter] We get the mantra direct and that does all good for him. [yet more laughter] In to.. not into so much details. To listen to this use the following link: http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/sources/mp3s/Maharishi1959USA.mp3
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Auto Bailout Circus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: snip It is not the job of the American taxpayer to bail out badly run businesses period! Badly run business should fail and go away. It amazes me that some people think the proposed Big Three bailout would be purely for the benefit of the car companies, Actually, Judy, the #1 road block to the bailout may have been because many people believe the benefit will benefit not so much the car companies but another demographic: the UAW and its members who are making (depending upon which report you read and which accounting method is being employed) about $80.00 an hour, which is about $40.00 an hour more than some of their competitors. when their collapse would have a ripple effect that would impose widespread grinding hardship in the form of lost jobs, not just for those who work for the car companies but the employees of thousands of businesses that interface with the car companies in one way or another, as well as those that interface with *them*, and so on in ever-expanding circles. We should do what we can to prop them up until the economy is back on its feet. If we're going to let them fall apart, let's wait to do so until the economy is strong enough to withstand the blow. Otherwise the recession will be sigificantly worsened and prolonged.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: snip Without the belief system, which must be taken on faith, my bet is that most likely give TM up. Two points. First, belief system does not equate to religion. There are many purely secular belief systems as well. Second, in my case and in many others I've heard, belief per se followed rather than preceded good experiences with the technique (during program and in daily life). I came to believe TM was what MMY said it was on the basis of my experience with it. When I began TM, I thought the theory behind it was just so much mumbo-jumbo (and said as much to my teacher during the three days of checking).
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Auto Bailout Circus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I've been watching with amusement this circus being played out in Congress. It was preceded by the Great Wall Street Bailout Circus. Both I was opposed to. It is not the job of the American taxpayer to bail out badly run businesses period! Spoken like a true capitalist! Congrats! Badly run business should fail and go away. Spoken like a true capitalist! The Dems want to be heroes and are usually in the pockets of the unions. Unions are okay when you have worker exploitation. But answer me this? Where was the UAW while Detroit was pushing big gas guzzling cars and trucks which didn't make any sense to anyone with at least half a brain. The UAW is just as guilty IMO as the sleazy management in this debacle. A friend who grew up in Detroit, worked at GM and apparently still has relatives working there was arguing that we needed to bailout the Big Three. This guy was opposed to the Wall Street bailout. Some inconsistencies here? He happens to drive a BMW sports car. I asked him, so are you going to trade in your BMW for a Chevy? A his answer was no. Nuff said. Last night on San Francisco's big AM talk radio station KGO host Gene Burns asked his audience to call and indicate if they would be willing to buy a Ford car since Ford claims to not need so much help and says they have some promising models on the way. I was very amused. I don't know about you, I don't buy by brand. I buy by if a car knocks my socks off. Spoken like a true capitalist! (and, I would imagine, you also don't buy a product or service based upon the nationality of the owners of the company offering the product or service, either, which seems to be the case of the auto bailout). I read auto reviews. I gather the information on fuel economy, power and safety. I buy by whether it fits my needs. And overall I want those things along with the best bang for my buck. So far American auto makers have failed to knock my socks off. Spoken like a true capitalist! And my Subaru Forester is over 10 years old and still running great.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: snip The 108's were the forerunners of the TMO elites, although at the time of the 108's, the TMO was more fun. In most cases the 108's were self sufficient (in the financial sense) individuals able to participate in the different projects M cooked up, and who also were in a position to spend more time with M, in between these projects. I don't think they were hit up for money, but rather they just had the means to be with M. Just to add, 108 is a sacred number in Hinduism and a huge number of other spiritual traditions. The Jewish tradition has something similar: if memory serves me right, it's the number 18. So, on a birthday, you may get $18.00 or $36.00...something that is divisible by 18. It has some special mathematical properties (see Wikipedia). Why it was applied to this group, I have no idea; I don't think it had anything to do with how many men were in the group. Maybe someone else can expand on this.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: They are the current day TM Rajas Sounds like the Crazy 88s from Kill Bill. ...or the 5,6,7s, and 8s from Kill Bill... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdjuS17DGlA
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: I was a newbie teacher on the very first six month course in Courcheval France, I was there too, so we must know each other. Well, everyone knows you Rick. You were always in the midst of things. I never heard of the guy until I came to this forum.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: Thanks for the compliment, but 30 years ago, I was rather full of myself. Even my mother called me on it. I think being a Golden Boy regional lecturer/TTC course leader dude had gone to my head. I know the type. In the SE region we had a golden (haired even) boy named Bob Lee who had great celebrity status on residence courses. It is said he died of AIDS from doing drugs.
[FairfieldLife] An eyeful a day keeps the doctor away
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4161/is_2611/ai_n14504639
[FairfieldLife] A notice from Share International
Share International Press release notice December 2008 Dear Friends, On December 12, a press release titled Christmas Miracle was sent out by Share International centers worldwide. Here is an excerpt: ...Look now for the biggest miracle of all. In the very near future a large, bright star will appear in the sky visible to all throughout the world night and day. Unbelievable? Fantasy? No, a simple fact. Around a week later, Maitreya, the World Teacher for all humanity, will begin his open emergence and though not yet using the name Maitreya will be interviewed on a major US television program The complete release is available at: http://www.share-international.org/maitreya/Ma_xmasmiracle.htm http://www.share-international.org/maitreya/Ma_xmasmiracle.htm Please share this most hopeful information with others. Best wishes for a beautiful Holiday Season, The volunteers at Share International Heaven will walk on earth in this generation - Maharishi
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Auto Bailout Circus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: snip It is not the job of the American taxpayer to bail out badly run businesses period! Badly run business should fail and go away. It amazes me that some people think the proposed Big Three bailout would be purely for the benefit of the car companies, Actually, Judy, the #1 road block to the bailout may have been because many people believe the benefit will benefit not so much the car companies but another demographic: the UAW and its members who are making (depending upon which report you read and which accounting method is being employed) about $80.00 an hour, which is about $40.00 an hour more than some of their competitors. Right. But nobody who is well-informed, of course, believes that. The $80/hour notion has been quite thoroughly debunked; and in any case workers' pay amounts to only a very small percentage of the companies' expenses (something like 4%).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 9:02 AM, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net wrote: dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: The man is dead not even a year, and they chuck his Science of Creative Intelligence? It IS rather astounding. I was one who thoroughly enjoyed the course, although I took in Humboldt, Ca. at the Cobb Mountain Academy, and had an awesome instructor. Do you have your georgraphy right? Cobb Mountain is not far from the Wine Country. Humbuldt is way up the state.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David OJ: Attorney's Letter re TM Religion
Cobb Mtn. is in Lake County, adjacent to Mendocino, Napa, and Sonoma counties, among others. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 9:02 AM, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: The man is dead not even a year, and they chuck his Science of Creative Intelligence? It IS rather astounding. I was one who thoroughly enjoyed the course, although I took in Humboldt, Ca. at the Cobb Mountain Academy, and had an awesome instructor. Do you have your georgraphy right? Cobb Mountain is not far from the Wine Country. Humbuldt is way up the state.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: 'Which god you like?' - USA 1959
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandp...@... wrote: Of all the lowly creatures that post on FFL Paul Mason is the perhaps the lowliest, utterly devoted as he is to make a cheap little dollar. This fool, not understanding what he does to himself, will contiune to ruin whatever good fortune he built up during countless incarnations. Now he has taken on a battle against The Masters of Wisdom. Please pray for this lost soul.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: 'Which god you like?' - USA 1959
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Of all the lowly creatures that post on FFL Paul Mason is the perhaps the lowliest, utterly devoted as he is to make a cheap little dollar. This fool, not understanding what he does to himself, will contiune to ruin whatever good fortune he built up during countless incarnations. Now he has taken on a battle against The Masters of Wisdom. Please pray for this lost soul. I don't believe anyone here takes you seriously Mr Nablusoss.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An eyeful a day keeps the doctor away
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4161/is_2611/ai_n14504639 Now this is an exercise program I can stick with.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: 'Which god you like?' - USA 1959
Nablusoss1008, I disagree with your point of view, here. In my opinion, Paul is a fine man whose research and writing has been of inestimable value in understanding both Maharishi and Guru Dev. His criticism of Maharishi is neither mean-spirited nor without foundation. Furthermore, regardless of any critiques he may have leveled against Maharishi, it's my understanding that he maintains both respect and admiration for him and his mission. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Of all the lowly creatures that post on FFL Paul Mason is the perhaps the lowliest, utterly devoted as he is to make a cheap little dollar. This fool, not understanding what he does to himself, will contiune to ruin whatever good fortune he built up during countless incarnations. Now he has taken on a battle against The Masters of Wisdom. Please pray for this lost soul.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Auto Bailout Circus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: snip It is not the job of the American taxpayer to bail out badly run businesses period! Badly run business should fail and go away. It amazes me that some people think the proposed Big Three bailout would be purely for the benefit of the car companies, Actually, Judy, the #1 road block to the bailout may have been because many people believe the benefit will benefit not so much the car companies but another demographic: the UAW and its members who are making (depending upon which report you read and which accounting method is being employed) about $80.00 an hour, which is about $40.00 an hour more than some of their competitors. Right. But nobody who is well-informed, of course, believes that. The $80/hour notion has been quite thoroughly debunked; and in any case workers' pay amounts to only a very small percentage of the companies' expenses (something like 4%). The United Auto Workers say labor costs make up 10 percent of a vehicle's expenses. They address that and other questions here, including hourly wages: http://www.uaw.org/auto/12_02_08auto1.cfm
[FairfieldLife] Re: An eyeful a day keeps the doctor away
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4161/is_2611/ai_n14504639 This, from the woman who posted a link to an article explaining why so much research is so much baloney? Ruth, I admire the way you avoid predictability. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: Now this is an exercise program I can stick with. Let me guess: You're writing from a cafe, where you're getting your workout.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: 'Which god you like?' - USA 1959
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Of all the lowly creatures that post on FFL Paul Mason is the perhaps the lowliest, utterly devoted as he is to make a cheap little dollar. This fool, not understanding what he does to himself, will contiune to ruin whatever good fortune he built up during countless incarnations. Now he has taken on a battle against The Masters of Wisdom. Please pray for this lost soul. I don't believe anyone here takes you seriously Mr Nablusoss. ¨ We know you to be a good ol'classical fool from your postings here do.rflex, so your description is fine with me. Yet I do not believe that you will venture into the dark alleys of ego and money where Paul Mason has declared his kingdom.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An eyeful a day keeps the doctor away
On Dec 13, 2008, at 1:38 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4161/is_2611/ai_n14504639 Now this is an exercise program I can stick with. Does it count even if they're fake? She added that sexy stars like Dolly Parton, Heather Locklear, Anna Nicole Smith and Demi Moore had proved to be especially good for the men's health. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Auto Bailout Circus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: snip It is not the job of the American taxpayer to bail out badly run businesses period! Badly run business should fail and go away. It amazes me that some people think the proposed Big Three bailout would be purely for the benefit of the car companies, when their collapse would have a ripple effect that would impose widespread grinding hardship in the form of lost jobs, not just for those who work for the car companies but the employees of thousands of businesses that interface with the car companies in one way or another, as well as those that interface with *them*, and so on in ever-expanding circles. We should do what we can to prop them up until the economy is back on its feet. If we're going to let them fall apart, let's wait to do so until the economy is strong enough to withstand the blow. Otherwise the recession will be sigificantly worsened and prolonged. Congress has no problem helping wall street and screwing main street. Given the opportunity, Republicans will fatten their rich friends and crush the Unions every time.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: 'Which god you like?' - USA 1959
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote: Nablusoss1008, I disagree with your point of view, here. That's OK Marek, but also understand that all Paul Mason wants is to make a few dollars from his contact with one of the most influential Masters of these times. Do you consider this activity as highworthy ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: An eyeful a day keeps the doctor away
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4161/is_2611/ai_n14504639 Sorry to disappoint the oglers but Snopes says the story is as FALSE as falsies. http://tinyurl.com/29eluz
[FairfieldLife] Essay: Services R Us; auto woes point to era's end
WASHINGTON These are transformational times in a nation rooted for a century in a life of lunch buckets, calloused hands and belching smokestacks. That life is being upended and it's on to new, more ephemeral things. America doesn't build like it used to. Services R Us. The auto executives and labor bosses who came to Washington pleading for a bailout represented a waning industrial age that delivered decent wages, good benefits and stable employment for millions, over generations. They could not help but look like yesterday's men, grasping for a chance at tomorrow. They stood not just for a gasping industry or a shrunken labor movement but for America's wrenching transition from the familiar ways of putting food on the table and kids through college. How many people do you know who go to work each day and make something you can hold or touch? In most places, probably not many. Not even in Trenton, N.J., where the bold sign on a railroad bridge boasts Trenton Makes, the World Takes, harking back to when it made rubber, wristwatches, parachutes, linoleum, armaments, glassware, fine china, toilets, cars, wall plaster, farm tools, mattresses and cigars. Now it makes policy and bureaucracy, mostly employing people in state and local government. In that state, one worker in 10 makes something, down from one in two in 1950. So it goes across the country. Not quite one worker in 10 is in manufacturing. The swagger of the American blue-collar worker has been gone for so long that books about that endangered species have turned yellow at the edges. A Ford or a U.S. Steel is there, on the ground, like a ton of rocks, the Chicago labor lawyer Thomas Geoghegan wrote in a tough-love ode to the labor movement. His book, Which Side Are you On?, is more than 15 years old. Much rock has become rubble since then. Even then before Made in China became the norm there was a sense that the times of little pink houses were a-changing. Automation always seemed to lead to more jobs, somewhere, at some point, Geoghegan wrote. Now it seems to lead nowhere. Workers used to think: It's OK, it's leading to the next industrial revolution. But now the word on the street is: There isn't going to be a next industrial revolution. To be sure, America still makes more than Americans think it does. The products are less visible, unless you've got a semiconductor on your holiday list. The biggest export in recent years has been commercial aircraft and parts, worth over $100 billion last year. Next comes autos and auto parts, worth $80 billion, both from domestic and foreign factories in the U.S. Earth-moving equipment and MRI scanners are other examples of high-end products still made in the USA. U.S. manufacturers make more with fewer people. Some 3 million manufacturing jobs nearly one in four have been lost since 2000 while productivity has gone up. The service sector drives 80 percent of the economy. That's schlepping fast food, processing information technology and a lot in between. The industrial economy was built by bombastic corporate and union leaders working together and at head-butting odds during decades of negotiation, strikes and bloody confrontation. Now everyone hangs on to a swiftly tilting planet, a mix of the known and unknown. The sociologists Robert and Helen Lynd described it this way: A citizen has one foot on the relatively solid ground of established institutional habits, and another foot fast to an escalator erratically moving in several directions at a bewildering variety of speeds. They wrote that in the 1920s, while studying life in Muncie, Ind., when America was entering the industrial age it now appears to be exiting, job by outsourced job, industry by archaic industry. The auto and labor leaders of today came to Washington cowed and needy, no bombast to be heard. The company executives were shamed by lawmakers into driving from Detroit instead of flying in their corporate jets. The United Auto Workers officials were funneled into a make-or-break meeting where Republicans from states that host foreign carmakers with nonunion work forces demanded sharp wage concessions from the Detroit crowd as a condition for the rescue. The union said no, like the old days. ~~ Calvin Woodward - Associated Press http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081213/ap_on_re_us/smokestack_america
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: 'Which god you like?' - USA 1959
Nablusoss108, again I disagree with your fundamental premise here, namely that all Paul wants is to make money from his writings. I hope that he's successful in his writings and however much money he makes from that is entirely correlated with how much interest in his subjects the writing generates. Your criticism of him making money off of one of the most influential Masters could be (and has been) leveled against Maharishi, too. I've been fortunate enough to have a fair amount of correspondence with Paul about these matters, and he has expressed nothing but sincere interest in Maharishi and warm feelings for him. Paul's admiration and respect for Guru Dev is, I believe, of a higher caliber, yet. It seems clear to me that your own criticism of Paul is based on your own devotion to Maharishi and what you feel is unwarranted criticism of him. But I feel that Paul's point of view, though different than your own, may actually be in concert with the greater spiritual agenda you believe that Maharishi and Guru Dev were expressions and proponents for, as well. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Nablusoss1008, I disagree with your point of view, here. That's OK Marek, but also understand that all Paul Mason wants is to make a few dollars from his contact with one of the most influential Masters of these times. Do you consider this activity as highworthy ?
[FairfieldLife] Rachel Maddow: GOP Embraces Neo-Hooverism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4IzRNqt8hU
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Auto Bailout Circus
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I've been watching with amusement this circus being played out in Congress. It was preceded by the Great Wall Street Bailout Circus. Both I was opposed to. It is not the job of the American taxpayer to bail out badly run businesses period! Spoken like a true capitalist! Congrats! It don't think it has anything to do with a capitalist notion but more common sense. Badly run business should fail and go away. Spoken like a true capitalist! Again just common sense. The Dems want to be heroes and are usually in the pockets of the unions. Unions are okay when you have worker exploitation. But answer me this? Where was the UAW while Detroit was pushing big gas guzzling cars and trucks which didn't make any sense to anyone with at least half a brain. The UAW is just as guilty IMO as the sleazy management in this debacle. A friend who grew up in Detroit, worked at GM and apparently still has relatives working there was arguing that we needed to bailout the Big Three. This guy was opposed to the Wall Street bailout. Some inconsistencies here? He happens to drive a BMW sports car. I asked him, so are you going to trade in your BMW for a Chevy? A his answer was no. Nuff said. Last night on San Francisco's big AM talk radio station KGO host Gene Burns asked his audience to call and indicate if they would be willing to buy a Ford car since Ford claims to not need so much help and says they have some promising models on the way. I was very amused. I don't know about you, I don't buy by brand. I buy by if a car knocks my socks off. Spoken like a true capitalist! Again just common sense. But apparently there are a lot of people who will only buy American make cars. They can't say American Made anymore because many of the foreign car makers have plants here. (and, I would imagine, you also don't buy a product or service based upon the nationality of the owners of the company offering the product or service, either, which seems to be the case of the auto bailout). Nope, it's all based on the quality of the product I'm purchasing. The winner gets the money regardless of the country of origin. GM, Ford and Chrysler are about 3 years too late. They may soon become history. If they had started tooling up for what Americans want to buy 3 years ago they would have those cars on the market today.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
lurkernomore20002000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: In http://www.trancenet.net/law/denarot.shtml#fraud, the DeNaro Affidavit, there is mentionion the 108s. Could someone tell me who and what these people were? I heard them mentioned by a TM initiator many years ago. All I heard was that these were rich people who donated a lot to the TMO and could attend any course merely by signing their name with the designation 108. Gene Menetly, do I have to do all the answering around this joint! Can't believe no one had the courtesy to answer this up until this point:) Here's my wikepedia definition, subject to additions and modifications. The 108's were the forerunners of the TMO elites, although at the time of the 108's, the TMO was more fun. In most cases the 108's were self sufficient (in the financial sense) individuals able to participate in the different projects M cooked up, and who also were in a position to spend more time with M, in between these projects. I don't think they were hit up for money, but rather they just had the means to be with M. And on my TTC in 1975 people were so enamored by the concept that when they went home instead of being starving TM teachers they started businesses so they could become financially independent and spend more time with Maharishi. We know what happened then and that's why I credit MMY with creating Yuppies!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who/what were the 108s?
authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: snip The 108's were the forerunners of the TMO elites, although at the time of the 108's, the TMO was more fun. In most cases the 108's were self sufficient (in the financial sense) individuals able to participate in the different projects M cooked up, and who also were in a position to spend more time with M, in between these projects. I don't think they were hit up for money, but rather they just had the means to be with M. Just to add, 108 is a sacred number in Hinduism and a huge number of other spiritual traditions. It has some special mathematical properties (see Wikipedia). Why it was applied to this group, I have no idea; I don't think it had anything to do with how many men were in the group. Maybe someone else can expand on this. So is 3, 9, 18, 108, 1008, etc. 56 is another one but I don't recall offhand why. For example, ideally one practices 108 repetitions of a mantra (using japa beads) but if stuck for time 9 is okay.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Auto Bailout Circus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: snip It is not the job of the American taxpayer to bail out badly run businesses period! Badly run business should fail and go away. It amazes me that some people think the proposed Big Three bailout would be purely for the benefit of the car companies, when their collapse would have a ripple effect that would impose widespread grinding hardship in the form of lost jobs, not just for those who work for the car companies but the employees of thousands of businesses that interface with the car companies in one way or another, as well as those that interface with *them*, and so on in ever-expanding circles. We should do what we can to prop them up until the economy is back on its feet. If we're going to let them fall apart, let's wait to do so until the economy is strong enough to withstand the blow. Otherwise the recession will be sigificantly worsened and prolonged. Just one problem, the taxpayers can't afford to prop them up. The taxpayers can't afford the consequences of them collapsing. We can certainly afford to keep them going until the next administration and Congress can figure out a longer-term solution. snip And since you probably don't bother to read me much (as I you) then you missed that being a professional musician most of my life where you are most of time going from job to job I don't have much sympathy for those afraid of losing their jobs. Statements like that are why I don't bother to read you much. I might as well be reading Shemp for all the intelligence you exhibit.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Essay: Services R Us; auto woes point to era's end
do.rflex wrote: WASHINGTON – These are transformational times in a nation rooted for a century in a life of lunch buckets, calloused hands and belching smokestacks. That life is being upended and it's on to new, more ephemeral things. America doesn't build like it used to. Services R Us. The auto executives and labor bosses who came to Washington pleading for a bailout represented a waning industrial age that delivered decent wages, good benefits and stable employment for millions, over generations. They could not help but look like yesterday's men, grasping for a chance at tomorrow. They stood not just for a gasping industry or a shrunken labor movement but for America's wrenching transition from the familiar ways of putting food on the table and kids through college. How many people do you know who go to work each day and make something you can hold or touch? In most places, probably not many. Not even in Trenton, N.J., where the bold sign on a railroad bridge boasts Trenton Makes, the World Takes, harking back to when it made rubber, wristwatches, parachutes, linoleum, armaments, glassware, fine china, toilets, cars, wall plaster, farm tools, mattresses and cigars. Now it makes policy and bureaucracy, mostly employing people in state and local government. In that state, one worker in 10 makes something, down from one in two in 1950. So it goes across the country. Not quite one worker in 10 is in manufacturing. The swagger of the American blue-collar worker has been gone for so long that books about that endangered species have turned yellow at the edges. A Ford or a U.S. Steel is there, on the ground, like a ton of rocks, the Chicago labor lawyer Thomas Geoghegan wrote in a tough-love ode to the labor movement. His book, Which Side Are you On?, is more than 15 years old. Much rock has become rubble since then. Even then — before Made in China became the norm — there was a sense that the times of little pink houses were a-changing. Automation always seemed to lead to more jobs, somewhere, at some point, Geoghegan wrote. Now it seems to lead nowhere. Workers used to think: It's OK, it's leading to the next industrial revolution. But now the word on the street is: There isn't going to be a next industrial revolution. To be sure, America still makes more than Americans think it does. The products are less visible, unless you've got a semiconductor on your holiday list. The biggest export in recent years has been commercial aircraft and parts, worth over $100 billion last year. Next comes autos and auto parts, worth $80 billion, both from domestic and foreign factories in the U.S. Earth-moving equipment and MRI scanners are other examples of high-end products still made in the USA. U.S. manufacturers make more with fewer people. Some 3 million manufacturing jobs — nearly one in four — have been lost since 2000 while productivity has gone up. The service sector drives 80 percent of the economy. That's schlepping fast food, processing information technology and a lot in between. The industrial economy was built by bombastic corporate and union leaders working together and at head-butting odds during decades of negotiation, strikes and bloody confrontation. Now everyone hangs on to a swiftly tilting planet, a mix of the known and unknown. The sociologists Robert and Helen Lynd described it this way: A citizen has one foot on the relatively solid ground of established institutional habits, and another foot fast to an escalator erratically moving in several directions at a bewildering variety of speeds. They wrote that in the 1920s, while studying life in Muncie, Ind., when America was entering the industrial age it now appears to be exiting, job by outsourced job, industry by archaic industry. The auto and labor leaders of today came to Washington cowed and needy, no bombast to be heard. The company executives were shamed by lawmakers into driving from Detroit instead of flying in their corporate jets. The United Auto Workers officials were funneled into a make-or-break meeting where Republicans from states that host foreign carmakers with nonunion work forces demanded sharp wage concessions from the Detroit crowd as a condition for the rescue. The union said no, like the old days. ~~ Calvin Woodward - Associated Press http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081213/ap_on_re_us/smokestack_america I have never thought that being a lunch pail worker as being a goal in life. The reason we have unions in the first place was because of exploitation by the industrialists. So why in this day in age should be care about big companies and big factories? Things have changed. You don't need big factories to build things anymore. Cars could be built just as well at regional plants that are much smaller. They don't make everything at the car plants anymore anyway. They're only assembled there. With the Internet we have made
