Just to clarify, my raps about Patanjali this week
have all been pursuant to a certain theme. That is,
that there is a certain down side to considering
someone enlightened, given the definition of that
state that has been presented to us as knowers
of Truth. What seems to happen IMO is the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@...
that any experience is 'painful' if it overshadows ones
'Presence or Being'...
Without Pure Consciousness or Being established in one's
awareness, then all experience will be found to be lacking,
due to the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
I, for one, am not convinced that imbuing the supposedly-
enlightened with this much authority -- the
state of their words being considered Truth,
and thus immune to critical examination -- is
a good thing.
Agreed - you
John 1:1, the original Greek:
en arkhe en ho logos, kai ho logos en pros ton theon,
kai *theos en ho logos*.
Most modern translations (at least the Indo-European ones,
and Finnish) change the word order of the last clause(?) as
if it'd been 'ho logos en [article here?] theos'. For instance,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Take Patanjali's statement that all experience
is painful. *Most* people, no matter how much
they buy into Hindu nihilism, would not describe
*every experience they've had in life other than
transcendence* as painful.
Although I've never lived there ( Chicago doesn't really count as the
Midwest :-), I consulted for many years in the Midwest, flying there and
working in places like Minneapolis or Madison four days a week, before
returning to Santa Fe. It was a surreal experience in many ways, some of
which this
Seems to me that Satan is not the guy we need to be worried about. :-)
[http://i.imgur.com/w67JK.jpg]
Courtesy of Cracked, gleaned from original scripts, people who read
them, lip reading, and other sources. Thought you'd want to know for
your next Trivia Party. :-)
#7. Pulp Fiction -- What's in the Briefcase?
#6. The Sopranos Finale -- Did Tony Soprano Die?
#5. Cast Away -- What Was in the FedEx
O what a bunch of evil sophistry.
This thread reads as careful veiled spiritual hate.
The beating of poor old Patanjali by mob.
Nice writing but it still smells like the sophistry
of limited epistemology. However, if you just had more
experience then you'd see.
Nice writing though, it's a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
O what a bunch of evil sophistry.
This thread reads as careful veiled spiritual hate.
The beating of poor old Patanjali by mob.
One guy, having fun with an imaginary conversation
with a possibly imaginary guy, is a *mob*?
http://www.atomicmom.org/
For some context:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_1:1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
John 1:1, the original Greek:
en arkhe en ho logos, kai ho logos en pros ton theon,
kai *theos en ho logos*.
Most modern translations (at least the Indo-European
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Ignoring attempts to derail this thread and make it
all about Buddhism, I'm going to bring it back to its
original subject, Patanjali, and a quote of his from
the Yoga Sutras.
However, the wise (though their own mind
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Seems to me that Satan is not the guy we need to be worried about. :-)
[http://i.imgur.com/w67JK.jpg]
Chuckle.God IS Satan. The force the works for GOOD, though scheming ILL.
Faust
Hello,
My name is Daniel. I've been subscribed to this group for quite a while and
never really posted any requests in the past.
Here is:
I'm launching this french yoga site this coming week and need user experience
feedbacks. Could someone who speaks french be willing to go through
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
Ignoring attempts to derail this thread and make it
all about Buddhism, I'm going to bring it back to its
original subject, Patanjali, and a quote of his from
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
O what a bunch of evil sophistry.
This thread reads as careful veiled spiritual hate.
The beating of poor old Patanjali by mob.
One guy, having fun
I cannot the mere Word so highly prizeJ.W.G.
heia emptybill a good link
a very extensive overview with it sordid past and a myriad of
interpretations...with no magical shortcut [;)]
so full of love for Cardmaster
may be too much to digest for him [:D]
but may be With honest purpose to explore,
You all need to understand that *only Barry's
conclusions* can be considered the result of
critical examination, of Patanjali or anything else.
If your conclusions differ from Barry's, you just
have to face the fact that you haven't been
examining critically, because if you had been
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Hindu nihilism. Some of us do not desire to be free
from rebirth. Some of the enlightened do not believe
that being enlightened means that there is no rebirth.
And most important, if the enlightened are so affronted
by
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote:
Curtis, as always, I think there is lots of wisdom in your posts. I too think
of the early years in TM - it took me a few year to figure out that
non-meditators had a lot to offer in the way of living life, too, and could
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
O what a bunch of evil sophistry.
This thread reads as careful veiled spiritual
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
O what a bunch of evil sophistry.
This thread reads as careful veiled spiritual hate.
The beating of poor old Patanjali by mob.
Nice writing but it still smells like the sophistry
of limited epistemology. However, if
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and
25th Ave., I decided to take the scenic drive starting at
Lincoln Park golf course. I ended up parking my car on
Hyde Street where the cable cars pass to get to the
Square.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
O what a bunch of evil sophistry.
This thread reads as careful veiled
On 04/18/2011 12:18 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
Just to clarify, my raps about Patanjali this week
have all been pursuant to a certain theme. That is,
that there is a certain down side to considering
someone enlightened, given the definition of that
state that has been presented to us as knowers
Rumor has it he is, but it's being covered up in the hospital while attempts
are made to get hold of the funds that the Sai org has hidden.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and
25th Ave., I decided to take the scenic drive starting at
Lincoln Park golf course. I ended up parking
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@... wrote:
Thanks for the follow-up. A few responses interleaved below.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote:
snip
So that would seem to be the answer where sex robots are
concerned: make them *so* realistic they
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
Rumor has it he is, but it's being covered up in the hospital while attempts
are made to get hold of the funds that the Sai org has hidden.
Miracles of a 'God-Man'?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9QqaPbFE78feature=related
You should visit the City more often. Have lunch at the Indian restaurant.
The price is reasonable and it's all you can eat. Then, take the scenic drive
as I did.
JR
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:
Love that place, haven't been to the city in a long
turquoiseB:
Take Patanjali's statement that all experience
is painful. *Most* people, no matter how much
they buy into Hindu nihilism, would not describe
*every experience they've had in life other than
transcendence* as painful.
Apparently you've totally misunderstood Hinduism
and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and
25th Ave., I decided to take the
I don't need no single source of OPINIONS
about the nature of reality and of life itself...
Bhairitu:
So is the purpose of enlightenment to sit around
and think about how we think? I would think the
purpose of enlightenment is to enjoy it...
So, that's what you think.
Well, it's
authfriend:
Life is so much simpler when we have Barry to tell
us what to think...
Turq got mixed up again - nihilism means that life is
without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value.
Turq seems to be the nihilist when he asserts that
morality, norms, rules, or laws do not
turquoiseb:
See what happens when you stop considering
these guys holy or wise?
It has nothing to do with being holy or wise.
The point is, if your life is satisfactory
and without any suffering or pain, then why
would you be practicing a yoga to gain release?
You are either free or you
http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1528.html
turquoiseb:
Ignoring attempts to derail this thread and make it
all about Buddhism, I'm going to bring it back to its
original subject, Patanjali...
Samadhi, dukkha, suffering, nirodha (cessation) are crucial
terms in Buddhist vocabulary. The doctrine of suffering is
the core of what
curtisdeltablues:
I just think he was full of it and that
his premises about reality are bogus...
But, for some reason you practiced yoga for
fourteen years and majored in philosophy at
MUM? It just doesn't make any sense!
Samkhya is the philosophical foundation of
all Indian culture,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote:
You are either free or you are bound. If free,
then you have no need for a yoga; if bound, by
what means can you free yourself?
So you are back from hunting prairie-dogs in Wyoming
but still feel the torment of unnatural
fish market, 1935
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/32470.jpg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote:
curtisdeltablues:
I just think he was full of it and that
his premises about reality are bogus...
But, for some reason you practiced yoga for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote:
Curtis, as always, I think there is lots of wisdom in your posts. I too
think of the early years in TM - it took me a few year to figure
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote:
curtisdeltablues:
I just think he was full of it and that
his premises about reality are bogus...
But, for some reason you practiced yoga for
fourteen years and majored in philosophy at
MUM? It just doesn't make
You are either free or you are bound. If free,
then you have no need for a yoga; if bound, by
what means can you free yourself?
azgrey:
So you are back from hunting prairie-dogs in
Wyoming but still feel the torment of unnatural
urges.
You are not making any sense - are you free or
an open ended question with the truth probably somewhere in between
http://www.abcgallery.com/G/grosz/grosz13.JPG
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote:
You are either free or you are bound. If free,
then you have no need for a yoga; if bound, by
what
You seem bound to post off-topic photos, so I guess
to that extend you are not free. Or, you feel free
to take up internet band-space for no good reason.
Yifu:
fish market, 1935
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/32470.jpg
I just think he was full of it and that
his premises
Any word on whether the death was long and painful?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
Rumor has it he is, but it's being covered up in the hospital while attempts
are made to get hold of the funds that the Sai org has hidden.
There's a deep message there.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote:
You seem bound to post off-topic photos, so I guess
to that extend you are not free. Or, you feel free
to take up internet band-space for no good reason.
Yifu:
fish market, 1935
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@... wrote:
Any word on whether the death was long and painful?
He was a planetary Avatar and beyond pain.
curtisdeltablues:
You may be overstating that since Samkhya
came a lot later than many of the
principles in Hinduism...
Samkhya came long before 'Hinduism'; before
the historical Buddha (563BCE), and before
Buddhism. That's why historians think the
Buddha may have been influenced by
Could he be both a pedophile fraud AND a planetary Avatar Nabby?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote:
Any word on whether the death was long and painful?
He was a planetary Avatar and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
Ignoring attempts to derail this thread and make it
all about Buddhism, I'm going to bring it back to its
original subject, Patanjali, and a quote of his
I doubt that such persons can be called Avatars; although evil people can
apparently get Enlightened (and still continue with evil (a-Dharmic) acts.)
Some people still maintain that all acts by Enlightened people are right or
Dharmic. I disagree with that position, but either assertion is
What you see is what you get.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote:
I doubt that such persons can be called Avatars; although evil people can
apparently get Enlightened (and still continue with evil (a-Dharmic) acts.)
Some people still maintain that all acts by
I did commute to the city for six years, so have travelled quite a bit around
the city. My favorite Indian place is Pakwan in Mission. As soon as my Saturn
dasha started I quit my work and now moved away from the West to the East Bay,
funny how things work out. My brother-in-law wanted me to
Newsweek article, April 18, 2011. (team of 20 leaders and experts suggests
small, common-sense ideas that can get America moving forward right now)
...
in 20 parts, here's part 1, excerpts...:
1.
From Bill Bradley: Introduce health courts.
The medicalmalpractice justice system has a 25 percent
cover article, TIME Magazine. Christian evangelical adopts the dangerous [for
his career as an Evangelical] position that there's no Hell.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2065080,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,2065275_2265761,00.html
Holiday home in Hell's Kitchen, NY; entrance to Hell is in NJ.
http://theinfosphere.org/Robot_Devil
I think you might both find this NYTimes article of
interest, from different perspectives. It's about new
research that aims to understand and quantify what
makes music expressive. It won't be revelatory--seems
to me the research only barely skims the surface--but
there are some intriguing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote:
You are either free or you are bound. If free,
then you have no need for a yoga; if bound, by
what means can you free yourself?
azgrey:
So you are back from hunting prairie-dogs in
Wyoming but still feel the
An antidote to BB (Blazing Brahman)?
http://theinfosphere.org/File:H_G_Blob.jpg
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What a find Judy! Big thanks, that was fascinating. This is why I love to
play my own rhythm as a one man band. Altering the timing during a song is one
of the most important ways I feel music.
I was reminded of how my vocal teacher used to listen to how I was playing at
such a higher level
Logos is utterance or calling forth ... vocalizing rather than
logic.
Similar idea to Vak/Vac in Veda - from whence comes shruti
. the
self revealing utterances or speaking forth of Brahman about Brahman in
Brahman.
Thus originally or principally (arche) there was the
calling/the sounding/the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
After having lunch at an Indian restaurant at Geary and
25th Ave.,You didn't tell us what time I decided to take the scenic
drive starting at
Lincoln Park golf course. I ended up parking my car on
Hyde Street where the cable
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
All of those scenes have a connection to FFL. For example, we are very
familiar with Indian foods and what they mean in physical and spiritual
sense.
The golf course represents the need for recreation to enjoy life and
experience
On Apr 18, 2011, at 10:13 PM, seventhray1 wrote:
Seems like you left out a lot of details here.
lol...
Sal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
After having lunch at an Indian
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