[FairfieldLife] A story, plus revealing reactions to it
A friend of mine who maintains a mailing list of... uh...Newagey people recently posted this story: Raja Ravi Varma was a great devotee of Parashakti, the Divine Mother. He was asked to paint the portrait of King George. While doing so, King George noticed that Raja Ravi Varma didn't take his eyes off his subject while his hand painted. King George asked Why don't you look at the canvas? Raja Ravi Varma replied, If I would look at the canvas, She would stop painting. Reactions ranged from Wow, really? to u r correct... divine stops working when we start to who to this proves the existence of the Divine Mother. If I were to ask this group of people, How many of you typed your replies without having to glance at the keyboard?, what do you think the reply would be? Is touch typing proof of the existence of the Divine Mother? If they had no need to look at the keyboard when replying, does this mean that the Divine Mother typed their replies? I guess my point, if I have one, is that people who have a Woo Woo view of the universe are able to see Woo Woo in anything. I've hung with artists for years, and know easily half a dozen of them who don't need to look at what they're drawing to render it perfectly. Not once has it occurred to me to think that someone or something else was doing the drawing for them, no more than it occurs to me to think Someone or some- thing else is thinking my thoughts when I type them without looking at the keyboard. I think that this is a classic example of drawing bullseyes around arrows; that is, starting with a premise and interpreting anything one sees as valid- ation of that premise. What do you think? Was Raja Ravi Varma doing his own painting using an artist's version of touch typing, or was someone or some- thing else doing the painting for him? I think the responses here would be revealing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Just in C.C.'??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote: Anyone know anyone, who is just in CC.?? Even transcending blends in other higher states of consciousness, as everyone who has had prolonged transcending knows. I'm not sure if your question is serious, but CC is not a static state but is a signpost on the road to development of freedom. As Jim has stated here several times CC is just compared to the glimpses of reality that has been revealed. However, it is possible to determine the exact state of consciousness of any human being. Benjamin Creme has a system ranging from about o,5 to 7,o very accurately determining the point of evolution of any person at the time of leaving the body. You'll find his latest list in Maitreyas Mission vol. III. The updated list will hopefully be published soon.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A story, plus revealing reactions to it
Your question is very funny Barry, do you believe in metaphors or only in literal interpretations of words? Regardless of if the Raja believed in his own abilities or credited the divine mother, it is clear that he had a special talent. For me divine mother is symbolic of the higher self, existence or whatever else you call it. So Raja can be proud of his special ability or he can acknowledge there are several unknown factors that have contributed to his abilities, karma, purva punya, grace. He has obviously chosen the latter and by crediting the Divine Mother he is being humble and he is crediting the grace of the existence, supreme self, woo woo or what ever else you might refer it to as. That he is not merely an island or isolated entity, but that he is a vital, meaningful part of an organic unity. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: A friend of mine who maintains a mailing list of... uh...Newagey people recently posted this story: Raja Ravi Varma was a great devotee of Parashakti, the Divine Mother. He was asked to paint the portrait of King George. While doing so, King George noticed that Raja Ravi Varma didn't take his eyes off his subject while his hand painted. King George asked Why don't you look at the canvas? Raja Ravi Varma replied, If I would look at the canvas, She would stop painting. Reactions ranged from Wow, really? to u r correct... divine stops working when we start to who to this proves the existence of the Divine Mother. If I were to ask this group of people, How many of you typed your replies without having to glance at the keyboard?, what do you think the reply would be? Is touch typing proof of the existence of the Divine Mother? If they had no need to look at the keyboard when replying, does this mean that the Divine Mother typed their replies? I guess my point, if I have one, is that people who have a Woo Woo view of the universe are able to see Woo Woo in anything. I've hung with artists for years, and know easily half a dozen of them who don't need to look at what they're drawing to render it perfectly. Not once has it occurred to me to think that someone or something else was doing the drawing for them, no more than it occurs to me to think Someone or some- thing else is thinking my thoughts when I type them without looking at the keyboard. I think that this is a classic example of drawing bullseyes around arrows; that is, starting with a premise and interpreting anything one sees as valid- ation of that premise. What do you think? Was Raja Ravi Varma doing his own painting using an artist's version of touch typing, or was someone or some- thing else doing the painting for him? I think the responses here would be revealing.
[FairfieldLife] Barbie Like a Virgin?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja Harris speaks on the Brahmasthan of India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: You are just one of those people Peter. If I had met you in a robe you could easily been my Maharishi. Some people just project an abundance of what-the-fuck! I can't explain it. But the difference between you a Maharishi is context. Just context. And wardrobe. O M G, And to think he was found out amongst us on F F L. And it came to pass that after these days they found him sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions. And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers. Will He as Peter be coming to Fairfield anytime soon? All the great spiritual teachers of these times come forth to Fairfield. It is time. -Buck in FF We should definitely hang again sometime so I can give an more up to date cosmic reading on you. But from what I remember, you are the real deal. You got it. It's all there. Why the fuck chase the dysentery to find it. Oh yeah, I forgot , Peter forgets to wear robes! Damn Peter, what a cult you could have in a dhoti! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I actually hate being that cynical. Actually I'm not that cynical. I walk around in transcendent bliss all the time. So, I don't even know where that comes from! I've gained so much from TM that all the other crap doesn't even matter. Like being given the best sports car in the world, a Ferrari Enzo and complaining that there's some lint in the glove box. This is outrageous. lint!!! --- On Wed, 4/20/11, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: From: wayback71 wayback71@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raja Harris speaks on the Brahmasthan of India To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 4:08 PM Before I ever donate to anything TM related I want to know this: - How much to the Shrivastava's of India, who grew from very middle class to rich in the last 30 years since MMY's organization took in money - how much do they contribute to TM sponsored projects? Why doesn't someone from a genuine accounting firm look at the books (if they exist) and tell us. That would be inspiring news, wouldn't it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote: So very, very close to Heaven On Earthdig deep! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Completion isjust around the corner if we can only raise 20 million more ! --- On Wed, 4/20/11, merlin vedamerlin@ wrote: From: merlin vedamerlin@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] Raja Harris speaks on the Brahmasthan of India To: Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 11:28 AM Tonight at 20.30 Holland time in the Global Maharishi Family Chat, our dear Raja Harris will speak on the Brahmasthan of India, with lots of pictures ... See also this new webpage http://maharishiindiacourses.com/ J a i G u r u D e v To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Adyashanti in Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: when I saw Adya in Manhattan a few days ago, he said some of the same things, but it sounds as if he brought out more things to the fairfield group. I would like toa ttend one of his silent retreats someday. In California, where he is very popular, the retreats are by lottery since so many want to attend. He was so easy to be around and to listen - a lightness and ease and humility combined with wisdom. I liked it . I have that stillness inside, but still don't perceive it in a way I would call being Awakened. I thought maybe the no thoughts was a symptom of getting older! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Nice account of the evening by someone: John and i were blown away- Adya is amazing- so simple and clear- no fancy stuff- and the crowd was great- there were about 350 people- we're going back tonight and taking our neighbor- there were a few questions and really good ones- one gal i know asked one- she said she has had so many experiences of emptiness but was bummed that she is still a seeker - yeah, that is true, and i loved her honesty- Adya told her to look within to find herself- she said she just couldn't find herself- he kept with her and when she kind of frustratedly said that there just wasn't something that was there, he said BINGO! and she got it- so simple- he told her that that emptiness doesn't seem like a great thing at first but to keep being with that- and a kind of devotion to that develops- great- that is the deal- eventually, and he said he didn't want to say this now and to forget he said it but it is true anyway... eventually that emptiness is found to be everything- fullness- all that is- i am making it sound not fabulous, but he was- his simplicity and true humility and naturalness were amazing- this was like ointment for this gal- i was so happy for her. he said that each of us can see that within ourselves any and all the time, and we can also see it in our loved ones and friends and then also in everyone and everything. he brought it down so that it was completely accessible to everyone there. Yep, that was a communal question she asked and he led through it as a guided meditation so well. You kind of had to have been there to appreciate it. one guy started it out by asking about addictions- he goes between Peace and addictions- Adya was completely non-judgemental- beautiful- talked about the shadow side being just as important as the Light side- both duality- and when we sit in the Light, we have to embrace the Dark, or the Dark will come knocking on our door so that we can see that the jewel of Emptiness is also found even in the Shadows- He told him to keep asking himself what he really wanted from the addiction- deep- it helped the guy a lot, and it addressed 'embodiment', which was great for the Bonder people who were there. I walked out with one of them. she was prepared not to like him but loved him after. Another was totally a head guy- obvious- Adya got him to see the Space- to acknowledge the realization of that. Soothing and freeing. When he was talking, he said that it is interesting that when he sometimes will tell the people at his retreats, 'ok, now let's meditate'- all of a sudden there is a lot of shifting in seats and movement to get comfortable for the meditation- he laughs and says that it is so funny because they are getting READY to find what is already here- that was a cool thing! and so true! The Gita stuff was intersting... Krishna showed Arjuna the whole trip, but Ar. wasn't quite ready for all the shadow stuff. The war was about the war of not wanting to let go- when we awaken, we let go of not only the bad but also the good- and that is the hard part- like Arjuna having to kill his relatives (the good parts about life that we are attached to). Since so many people go to the domes, i don't know who was there who go and who don't- i think it was well mixed, and there were people there that we know and many we have never seen before and a good mix of our age and younger- I'll be interested to see tonight how many are repeats and how many new- I completely recommend that anyone go. Can't imagine anyone being put off by him. Oh yeah, he also talked about the infinite variety of awakenings and also how an awakening is just the beginning- it is walking through the portal and not the end. He said some have huge blown awakenings, and that is lovely but also can trap them, cuz they deep down keep referring to that big one- and there is a kind of attachment to it in their being. And some just have an, 'Oh, for goodness sake, well, i'll be darned' kind of awakening- adorable of him'- and said that these kind can be easier, cuz there is no
[FairfieldLife] Re: Adyashanti in Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: when I saw Adya in Manhattan a few days ago, he said some of the same things, but it sounds as if he brought out more things to the fairfield group. I would like toa ttend one of his silent retreats someday. In California, where he is very popular, the retreats are by lottery since so many want to attend. He was so easy to be around and to listen - a lightness and ease and humility combined with wisdom. I liked it . I have that stillness inside, but still don't perceive it in a way I would call being Awakened. I thought maybe the no thoughts was a symptom of getting older! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Nice account of the evening by someone: John and i were blown away- Adya is amazing- so simple and clear- no fancy stuff- and the crowd was great- there were about 350 people- we're going back tonight and taking our neighbor- there were a few questions and really good ones- one gal i know asked one- she said she has had so many experiences of emptiness but was bummed that she is still a seeker - yeah, that is true, and i loved her honesty- Adya told her to look within to find herself- she said she just couldn't find herself- he kept with her and when she kind of frustratedly said that there just wasn't something that was there, he said BINGO! and she got it- so simple- he told her that that emptiness doesn't seem like a great thing at first but to keep being with that- and a kind of devotion to that develops- great- that is the deal- eventually, and he said he didn't want to say this now and to forget he said it but it is true anyway... eventually that emptiness is found to be everything- fullness- all that is- i am making it sound not fabulous, but he was- his simplicity and true humility and naturalness were amazing- this was like ointment for this gal- i was so happy for her. he said that each of us can see that within ourselves any and all the time, and we can also see it in our loved ones and friends and then also in everyone and everything. he brought it down so that it was completely accessible to everyone there. Yep, that was a communal question she asked and he led through it as a guided meditation so well. You kind of had to have been there to appreciate it. one guy started it out by asking about addictions- he goes between Peace and addictions- Adya was completely non-judgemental- beautiful- talked about the shadow side being just as important as the Light side- both duality- and when we sit in the Light, we have to embrace the Dark, or the Dark will come knocking on our door so that we can see that the jewel of Emptiness is also found even in the Shadows- He told him to keep asking himself what he really wanted from the addiction- deep- it helped the guy a lot, and it addressed 'embodiment', which was great for the Bonder people who were there. I walked out with one of them. she was prepared not to like him but loved him after. Yup, he was practical and particular in spiritual teaching through out. Another was totally a head guy- obvious- Adya got him to see the Space- to acknowledge the realization of that. Soothing and freeing. When he was talking, he said that it is interesting that when he sometimes will tell the people at his retreats, 'ok, now let's meditate'- all of a sudden there is a lot of shifting in seats and movement to get comfortable for the meditation- he laughs and says that it is so funny because they are getting READY to find what is already here- that was a cool thing! and so true! The Gita stuff was intersting... Krishna showed Arjuna the whole trip, but Ar. wasn't quite ready for all the shadow stuff. The war was about the war of not wanting to let go- when we awaken, we let go of not only the bad but also the good- and that is the hard part- like Arjuna having to kill his relatives (the good parts about life that we are attached to). Since so many people go to the domes, i don't know who was there who go and who don't- i think it was well mixed, and there were people there that we know and many we have never seen before and a good mix of our age and younger- I'll be interested to see tonight how many are repeats and how many new- I completely recommend that anyone go. Can't imagine anyone being put off by him. Oh yeah, he also talked about the infinite variety of awakenings and also how an awakening is just the beginning- it is walking through the portal and not the end. He said some have huge blown awakenings, and that is lovely but also can trap them, cuz they deep down keep referring to that big one-
[FairfieldLife] Re: Adyashanti in Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: when I saw Adya in Manhattan a few days ago, he said some of the same things, but it sounds as if he brought out more things to the fairfield group. I would like toa ttend one of his silent retreats someday. In California, where he is very popular, the retreats are by lottery since so many want to attend. He was so easy to be around and to listen - a lightness and ease and humility combined with wisdom. I liked it . I have that stillness inside, but still don't perceive it in a way I would call being Awakened. I thought maybe the no thoughts was a symptom of getting older! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Nice account of the evening by someone: John and i were blown away- Adya is amazing- so simple and clear- no fancy stuff- and the crowd was great- there were about 350 people- we're going back tonight and taking our neighbor- there were a few questions and really good ones- one gal i know asked one- she said she has had so many experiences of emptiness but was bummed that she is still a seeker - yeah, that is true, and i loved her honesty- Adya told her to look within to find herself- she said she just couldn't find herself- he kept with her and when she kind of frustratedly said that there just wasn't something that was there, he said BINGO! and she got it- so simple- he told her that that emptiness doesn't seem like a great thing at first but to keep being with that- and a kind of devotion to that develops- great- that is the deal- eventually, and he said he didn't want to say this now and to forget he said it but it is true anyway... eventually that emptiness is found to be everything- fullness- all that is- i am making it sound not fabulous, but he was- his simplicity and true humility and naturalness were amazing- this was like ointment for this gal- i was so happy for her. he said that each of us can see that within ourselves any and all the time, and we can also see it in our loved ones and friends and then also in everyone and everything. he brought it down so that it was completely accessible to everyone there. Yep, that was a communal question she asked and he led through it as a guided meditation so well. You kind of had to have been there to appreciate it. one guy started it out by asking about addictions- he goes between Peace and addictions- Adya was completely non-judgemental- beautiful- talked about the shadow side being just as important as the Light side- both duality- and when we sit in the Light, we have to embrace the Dark, or the Dark will come knocking on our door so that we can see that the jewel of Emptiness is also found even in the Shadows- He told him to keep asking himself what he really wanted from the addiction- deep- it helped the guy a lot, and it addressed 'embodiment', which was great for the Bonder people who were there. I walked out with one of them. she was prepared not to like him but loved him after. Yup, he was practical and particular in spiritual teaching through out. Another was totally a head guy- obvious- Adya got him to see the Space- to acknowledge the realization of that. Soothing and freeing. Yea, the three questions were perfect. As it turned out it was an excellent spectrum of spiritual questions between the three questioners on the first Fairfield nite. Was a great teaching moment all-together. When he was talking, he said that it is interesting that when he sometimes will tell the people at his retreats, 'ok, now let's meditate'- all of a sudden there is a lot of shifting in seats and movement to get comfortable for the meditation- he laughs and says that it is so funny because they are getting READY to find what is already here- that was a cool thing! and so true! The Gita stuff was intersting... Krishna showed Arjuna the whole trip, but Ar. wasn't quite ready for all the shadow stuff. The war was about the war of not wanting to let go- when we awaken, we let go of not only the bad but also the good- and that is the hard part- like Arjuna having to kill his relatives (the good parts about life that we are attached to). Since so many people go to the domes, i don't know who was there who go and who don't- i think it was well mixed, and there were people there that we know and many we have never seen before and a good mix of our age and younger- I'll be interested to see tonight how many are repeats and how many new- I completely recommend that
[FairfieldLife] Re: Adyashanti in Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Yea, the three questions were perfect. As it turned out it was an excellent spectrum of spiritual questions between the three questioners on the first Fairfield nite. Was a great teaching moment all-together. Evidently so great that you elected to skip the second meeting and go to the same old, same old satsang for the second night. Or so you said. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Adyashanti in Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: when I saw Adya in Manhattan a few days ago, he said some of the same things, but it sounds as if he brought out more things to the fairfield group. I would like toa ttend one of his silent retreats someday. In California, where he is very popular, the retreats are by lottery since so many want to attend. He was so easy to be around and to listen - a lightness and ease and humility combined with wisdom. I liked it . I have that stillness inside, but still don't perceive it in a way I would call being Awakened. I thought maybe the no thoughts was a symptom of getting older! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Nice account of the evening by someone: John and i were blown away- Adya is amazing- so simple and clear- no fancy stuff- and the crowd was great- there were about 350 people- we're going back tonight and taking our neighbor- there were a few questions and really good ones- one gal i know asked one- she said she has had so many experiences of emptiness but was bummed that she is still a seeker - yeah, that is true, and i loved her honesty- Adya told her to look within to find herself- she said she just couldn't find herself- he kept with her and when she kind of frustratedly said that there just wasn't something that was there, he said BINGO! and she got it- so simple- he told her that that emptiness doesn't seem like a great thing at first but to keep being with that- and a kind of devotion to that develops- great- that is the deal- eventually, and he said he didn't want to say this now and to forget he said it but it is true anyway... eventually that emptiness is found to be everything- fullness- all that is- i am making it sound not fabulous, but he was- his simplicity and true humility and naturalness were amazing- this was like ointment for this gal- i was so happy for her. he said that each of us can see that within ourselves any and all the time, and we can also see it in our loved ones and friends and then also in everyone and everything. he brought it down so that it was completely accessible to everyone there. Yep, that was a communal question she asked and he led through it as a guided meditation so well. You kind of had to have been there to appreciate it. one guy started it out by asking about addictions- he goes between Peace and addictions- Adya was completely non-judgemental- beautiful- talked about the shadow side being just as important as the Light side- both duality- and when we sit in the Light, we have to embrace the Dark, or the Dark will come knocking on our door so that we can see that the jewel of Emptiness is also found even in the Shadows- He told him to keep asking himself what he really wanted from the addiction- deep- it helped the guy a lot, and it addressed 'embodiment', which was great for the Bonder people who were there. I walked out with one of them. she was prepared not to like him but loved him after. Yup, he was practical and particular in spiritual teaching through out. Another was totally a head guy- obvious- Adya got him to see the Space- to acknowledge the realization of that. Soothing and freeing. Yea, the three questions were perfect. As it turned out it was an excellent spectrum of spiritual questions between the three questioners on the first Fairfield nite. Was a great teaching moment all-together. The three questioners showed an incredible lot of courage standing and staying there at the question mic so clearly revealing themselves before a large public audience. He was just so patient and kind in handling publicly what came as personalized. It was incredibly masterful. When he was talking, he said that it is interesting that when he sometimes will tell the people at his retreats, 'ok, now let's meditate'- all of a sudden there is a lot of shifting in seats and movement to get comfortable for the meditation- he laughs and says that it is so funny because they are getting READY to find what is already here- that was a cool thing! and so true! The Gita stuff was intersting... Krishna showed Arjuna the whole trip, but Ar. wasn't quite ready for all the shadow stuff. The war was about the war of not wanting to let go- when we awaken, we let go of not only the bad but also the good- and that is the hard part- like Arjuna having to
[FairfieldLife] Re: Adyashanti in Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: when I saw Adya in Manhattan a few days ago, he said some of the same things, but it sounds as if he brought out more things to the fairfield group. I would like toa ttend one of his silent retreats someday. In California, where he is very popular, the retreats are by lottery since so many want to attend. He was so easy to be around and to listen - a lightness and ease and humility combined with wisdom. I liked it . I have that stillness inside, but still don't perceive it in a way I would call being Awakened. I thought maybe the no thoughts was a symptom of getting older! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Nice account of the evening by someone: John and i were blown away- Adya is amazing- so simple and clear- no fancy stuff- and the crowd was great- there were about 350 people- we're going back tonight and taking our neighbor- there were a few questions and really good ones- one gal i know asked one- she said she has had so many experiences of emptiness but was bummed that she is still a seeker - yeah, that is true, and i loved her honesty- Adya told her to look within to find herself- she said she just couldn't find herself- he kept with her and when she kind of frustratedly said that there just wasn't something that was there, he said BINGO! and she got it- so simple- he told her that that emptiness doesn't seem like a great thing at first but to keep being with that- and a kind of devotion to that develops- great- that is the deal- eventually, and he said he didn't want to say this now and to forget he said it but it is true anyway... eventually that emptiness is found to be everything- fullness- all that is- i am making it sound not fabulous, but he was- his simplicity and true humility and naturalness were amazing- this was like ointment for this gal- i was so happy for her. he said that each of us can see that within ourselves any and all the time, and we can also see it in our loved ones and friends and then also in everyone and everything. he brought it down so that it was completely accessible to everyone there. Yep, that was a communal question she asked and he led through it as a guided meditation so well. You kind of had to have been there to appreciate it. one guy started it out by asking about addictions- he goes between Peace and addictions- Adya was completely non-judgemental- beautiful- talked about the shadow side being just as important as the Light side- both duality- and when we sit in the Light, we have to embrace the Dark, or the Dark will come knocking on our door so that we can see that the jewel of Emptiness is also found even in the Shadows- He told him to keep asking himself what he really wanted from the addiction- deep- it helped the guy a lot, and it addressed 'embodiment', which was great for the Bonder people who were there. I walked out with one of them. she was prepared not to like him but loved him after. Yup, he was practical and particular in spiritual teaching through out. Another was totally a head guy- obvious- Adya got him to see the Space- to acknowledge the realization of that. Soothing and freeing. Yea, the three questions were perfect. As it turned out it was an excellent spectrum of spiritual questions between the three questioners on the first Fairfield nite. Was a great teaching moment all-together. The three questioners showed an incredible lot of courage standing and staying there at the question mic so clearly revealing themselves before a large public audience. He was just so patient and kind in handling publicly what came as personalized. It was incredibly masterful. The young questioner with his frustrations about his own spiritual progress and addictions was poignant and real life in the body. Time and again it gets said and AdyaS offered this again then; The work, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much... And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace. The all-forgivingness of divine love was demonstrated time and again in those who made themselves devotionally receptive to the [Unified Field] in Jesus. His words to the woman of sinful repute gave voice to the redeeming compassion of [the Lagrangian Field] that responds in full measure to a devotee's heart-offering
[FairfieldLife] Re: Adyashanti in Fairfield
by asking about addictions- he goes between Peace and addictions- Adya was completely non-judgemental- beautiful- talked about the shadow side being just as important as the Light side- both duality- and when we sit in the Light, we have to embrace the Dark, or the Dark will come knocking on our door so that we can see that the jewel of Emptiness is also found even in the Shadows- He told him to keep asking himself what he really wanted from the addiction- deep- it helped the guy a lot, and it addressed 'embodiment', which was great for the Bonder people who were there. I walked out with one of them. she was prepared not to like him but loved him after. Yup, he was practical and particular in spiritual teaching through out. Another was totally a head guy- obvious- Adya got him to see the Space- to acknowledge the realization of that. Soothing and freeing. Yea, the three questions were perfect. As it turned out it was an excellent spectrum of spiritual questions between the three questioners on the first Fairfield nite. Was a great teaching moment all-together. The three questioners showed an incredible lot of courage standing and staying there at the question mic so clearly revealing themselves before a large public audience. He was just so patient and kind in handling publicly what came as personalized. It was incredibly masterful. The young questioner with his frustrations about his own spiritual progress and addictions was poignant and real life in the body. Time and again it gets said and AdyaS offered this again then; The work, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much... And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace. The all-forgivingness of divine love was demonstrated time and again in those who made themselves devotionally receptive to the [Unified Field] in Jesus. His words to the woman of sinful repute gave voice to the redeeming compassion of [the Lagrangian Field] that responds in full measure to a devotee's heart-offering that is singularly replete with love.. Centuries of misunderstanding of Biblical concepts of sin and its supposed abomination in the sight of God have created a popularly accepted image of the Almighty whose wrath against sinners is heartless, exactingly and vengefully severe... But Saints of all religious persuasions who have entered the Divine Presence in interiorized personal communion universally declare that omnipotence is expressed not as vengeance but as compassion, love, and goodness... There is no doubt about this divine assurance; Any sin, and its consequence, can be forgiven the repentant devotee who loves [the Unified Field] deeply enough, and thereby puts his life in tune with the all-compassionate Lord. -Paramahansa Yogananda The qualities of the Unified Field, as derived from the Lagrangian (mathematical description of the Unified Field), are found to be developing in the individual through the regular practice of spiritual Meditation. -MMY
[FairfieldLife] Re: A story, plus revealing reactions to it
Interesting...I've worked with several jazz artists who, when in the midst of their most intense improvisational flights, feel as if they stopped authoring the improv and something else was playing though them...that they had become a conduit for something else. I'd have to gather them up but there are similar statements from musicians such as John Coltrane, Sonny Rollins and Charles Lloyd, not that you these observations are limited to tenor sax players only. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: A friend of mine who maintains a mailing list of... uh...Newagey people recently posted this story: Raja Ravi Varma was a great devotee of Parashakti, the Divine Mother. He was asked to paint the portrait of King George. While doing so, King George noticed that Raja Ravi Varma didn't take his eyes off his subject while his hand painted. King George asked Why don't you look at the canvas? Raja Ravi Varma replied, If I would look at the canvas, She would stop painting. Reactions ranged from Wow, really? to u r correct... divine stops working when we start to who to this proves the existence of the Divine Mother. If I were to ask this group of people, How many of you typed your replies without having to glance at the keyboard?, what do you think the reply would be? Is touch typing proof of the existence of the Divine Mother? If they had no need to look at the keyboard when replying, does this mean that the Divine Mother typed their replies? I guess my point, if I have one, is that people who have a Woo Woo view of the universe are able to see Woo Woo in anything. I've hung with artists for years, and know easily half a dozen of them who don't need to look at what they're drawing to render it perfectly. Not once has it occurred to me to think that someone or something else was doing the drawing for them, no more than it occurs to me to think Someone or some- thing else is thinking my thoughts when I type them without looking at the keyboard. I think that this is a classic example of drawing bullseyes around arrows; that is, starting with a premise and interpreting anything one sees as valid- ation of that premise. What do you think? Was Raja Ravi Varma doing his own painting using an artist's version of touch typing, or was someone or some- thing else doing the painting for him? I think the responses here would be revealing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Afternoon at the Ghirardelli Square
On 04/19/2011 09:58 AM, Bhairitu wrote: And this weekend is woo-woo weekend at 8th and Brannon with the New Living Expo. For $15 you can see all the crystals, astrologers, gurus, water filtering system and eat all kinds of vegetarian food. These are kinda fun especially in the 1990s when they were huge and next door at the Fashion Center with shows spilling over to other nearby buildings. Then you could even park across the street for $5. Now those parking lots have been replaced by condos and the nearest parking the last time I went was $15 for the day. Add the cost of gas and the bridge toll and it makes for an expensive day. Of course you can take BART ... if you want to. :-D http://newlivingexpo.com/ Oops, I didn't mean this weekend but the weekend of the 29th which anyone interested who would have clicked on the link would have discovered. Obviously having such an event over Easter weekend would have been a disaster.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Just in C.C.'??
On 04/21/2011 12:54 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robertbabajii_99@... wrote: Anyone know anyone, who is just in CC.?? Even transcending blends in other higher states of consciousness, as everyone who has had prolonged transcending knows. I'm not sure if your question is serious, but CC is not a static state but is a signpost on the road to development of freedom. As Jim has stated here several times CC is just compared to the glimpses of reality that has been revealed. One is just moving towards Brahman anyway so these are just the scenery along the way. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Adyashanti in Fairfield
Adyashanti was brilliant last night, even better than the first night. An amazing performance: absolutely clarity, beautifully expressed, all the time--and very entertaining, too. All the talk about living in the nothing and going within and finding no one there reminded me of Emily Dickinson: I'm nobody! Who are you? Are you nobody, too? Then there's a pair of us don't tell! They'd banish us, you know. How dreary to be somebody! How public, like a frog To tell your name the livelong day To an admiring bog!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kill Team
You're still subscribing and reading Rolling Stone? Go figure. Vaj: Don't worry, I suspect no one from Rolling Stone will be coming down to Austin to hold a gun to your head and make you read some good journalism. Yeah, some good journalism - that's what we need! Barack Obama owes General McChrystal an apology says the Telegraph. They're both talking about the same thing, as are many other papers and blogs a Pentagon report has found that many of the damaging allegations contained in an article in Rolling Stone magazine last year, written by a reporter who'd spent considerable time with McChrystal and his staff, were either untrue or cannot be proven... National Post: http://tinyurl.com/3jb5yob Gen. Stanley McChrystal Exonerated: http://tinyurl.com/3pzjsg5
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Just in C.C.'??
CC is not a static state but is a signpost on the road to development of freedom... Bhairitu: One is just moving towards Brahman anyway so these are just the scenery along the way... Actually, people are not moving anywhere. Brahman is an already existent; not an object of cognition, and absent all movement. All people need to do is *isolate* the scenery from the Reality. The scenery is just apparently moving, but not really - things don't really move about from one place to another. Perceived movement is just a series of thought instants. Movement is impossible - it's just an illusion.
Re: [FairfieldLife] What will be new in Mac World this year?
On 04/20/2011 07:01 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote: Very interested in seeing whatever they might come up with, since I can't really imagine they're going to design bigger computers than the 17 MacBook Pro and 27 iMac they already have. (And bigger every year seems to have been their MO for quite a while now, but at what point do a laptop and a desktop cease to fit those definitions?) And iPad 2 is already out. I heard about a new OS, but that will only work on the very latest computers~~seems to me they won't be satisfied with just that. So what are they going to come up with~~any thoughts? Sal They will be announcing an Android based iPhone and iPad. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] I Hate Republicans song
I didn't write this one but it is quite funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWzyjVUGtC0 He needs to do an I Hate Ayn Rand one. :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: A story, plus revealing reactions to it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@... wrote: Interesting...I've worked with several jazz artists who, when in the midst of their most intense improvisational flights, feel as if they stopped authoring the improv and something else was playing though them...that they had become a conduit for something else. I hear this frequently from writers as well. This experience among creative artists is the basis of the Muse notion. (A client of mine and I joke that his communications from his Muse are occasionally blocked by static; and when I edit the material, she communicates with me to fill in what she couldn't get through to him.) But what Barry's asking about is whether a Muse-type experience would enable a painter to paint a portrait without looking at the canvas. Of course, touch-typing is an absurd attempt at a parallel to disprove the notion of supernatural intervention in the artistic process. You might conceivably compare touch-typing to a musician improvising without watching his/her hands, but that just doesn't translate to painting. I seriously doubt, moreover, whether any of Barry's artist friends would tell him they could paint a portrait without looking at the canvas. Some types of drawing could be done that way, but not a painted portrait, especially not in Varma's realistic, academic style. So do I think Divine Mother was painting the portrait of King George? No. My guess is that the story is apocryphal, or significantly exaggerated. I'd have to gather them up but there are similar statements from musicians such as John Coltrane, Sonny Rollins and Charles Lloyd, not that you these observations are limited to tenor sax players only. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: A friend of mine who maintains a mailing list of... uh...Newagey people recently posted this story: Raja Ravi Varma was a great devotee of Parashakti, the Divine Mother. He was asked to paint the portrait of King George. While doing so, King George noticed that Raja Ravi Varma didn't take his eyes off his subject while his hand painted. King George asked Why don't you look at the canvas? Raja Ravi Varma replied, If I would look at the canvas, She would stop painting. Reactions ranged from Wow, really? to u r correct... divine stops working when we start to who to this proves the existence of the Divine Mother. If I were to ask this group of people, How many of you typed your replies without having to glance at the keyboard?, what do you think the reply would be? Is touch typing proof of the existence of the Divine Mother? If they had no need to look at the keyboard when replying, does this mean that the Divine Mother typed their replies? I guess my point, if I have one, is that people who have a Woo Woo view of the universe are able to see Woo Woo in anything. I've hung with artists for years, and know easily half a dozen of them who don't need to look at what they're drawing to render it perfectly. Not once has it occurred to me to think that someone or something else was doing the drawing for them, no more than it occurs to me to think Someone or some- thing else is thinking my thoughts when I type them without looking at the keyboard. I think that this is a classic example of drawing bullseyes around arrows; that is, starting with a premise and interpreting anything one sees as valid- ation of that premise. What do you think? Was Raja Ravi Varma doing his own painting using an artist's version of touch typing, or was someone or some- thing else doing the painting for him? I think the responses here would be revealing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] What will be new in Mac World this year?
On Apr 21, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Bhairitu wrote: On 04/20/2011 07:01 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote: Very interested in seeing whatever they might come up with, since I can't really imagine they're going to design bigger computers than the 17 MacBook Pro and 27 iMac they already have. (And bigger every year seems to have been their MO for quite a while now, but at what point do a laptop and a desktop cease to fit those definitions?) And iPad 2 is already out. I heard about a new OS, but that will only work on the very latest computers~~seems to me they won't be satisfied with just that. So what are they going to come up with~~any thoughts? Sal They will be announcing an Android based iPhone and iPad. ;-) I can't wait...:) Sal
[FairfieldLife] 3 levels of Siddhis
3 somewhat different levels: 1. An enhanced, superior ability of some type; but not supernatural, linked in some way to Spiritual techniques. The shortcoming of this set is that such abilities can be gained by those not practicing any Spiritual Sadhana, so there's a difficulity associating the Siddhis to the Sadhana, as to cause and effect. Examples: Certain disciples of Sri Chinmoy have in the past broken various athletic records, claiming an association to their meditation techniques and Chinmoy. Chinmoy himself bragged about dead-lifting weights, putting himself into some type of extraordinary category; but further investigation into his exploits turned up nothing of the kind. ... In short, enhanced abilities in this category can't be proven to be caused by Spiritual techniques. Anybody can butt-bounce. 2. Very extraordinary abilities that can't easily be explained, but short of supernatural. Example: the mathematical discoveries of Ramanujan, definitely astounding and inexplicable by ordinary standards. He seemed to be able to pluck formulas out of thin air (but not all of the formulas have panned out as being true). He first attributed his abilities to a certain Divine Mother Goddess; but after living in England, disavowed any assoication with the Deity (and continuing to make remarkable discoveries)...; so go figure. 3. Abilities clearly in the supernatural category, such as manifesting trinkets our Vibhuti out of thin air; amazing but improbable mental feats, true levitation, invisibility, etc. Manifesting Vibhuti out of thin air seems to be a well known phenomenon in India. I've seen it myself and would swear that no tricks were involved. '
[FairfieldLife] Re: A story, plus revealing reactions to it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@... wrote: Interesting...I've worked with several jazz artists who, when in the midst of their most intense improvisational flights, feel as if they stopped authoring the improv and something else was playing though them...that they had become a conduit for something else. Although I'm not a drummer by any standard, several years ago, when I was living in a suburban area near the border of Nokia (sheesh!), I had a TAMA Royal Star set (instead of the crappy Roland TD-4K which I recently bought; OTOH, I'm not a great fan of TAMA drums, even Yamaha_s sound better, IMO, let alone KUMUs, heh...). When playing (or at least trying to play) an improvised syncopated 7/4ths jazzy rhythm, I occasionally experienced that feeling of just watching my hands and feet move seemingly without any effort on my part. 'Twas a way cool feeling. Also, noticed that my hands didn't seem to get tired no matter how long I kept playing. I'd have to gather them up but there are similar statements from musicians such as John Coltrane, Sonny Rollins and Charles Lloyd, not that you these observations are limited to tenor sax players only. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: A friend of mine who maintains a mailing list of... uh...Newagey people recently posted this story: Raja Ravi Varma was a great devotee of Parashakti, the Divine Mother. He was asked to paint the portrait of King George. While doing so, King George noticed that Raja Ravi Varma didn't take his eyes off his subject while his hand painted. King George asked Why don't you look at the canvas? Raja Ravi Varma replied, If I would look at the canvas, She would stop painting. Reactions ranged from Wow, really? to u r correct... divine stops working when we start to who to this proves the existence of the Divine Mother. If I were to ask this group of people, How many of you typed your replies without having to glance at the keyboard?, what do you think the reply would be? Is touch typing proof of the existence of the Divine Mother? If they had no need to look at the keyboard when replying, does this mean that the Divine Mother typed their replies? I guess my point, if I have one, is that people who have a Woo Woo view of the universe are able to see Woo Woo in anything. I've hung with artists for years, and know easily half a dozen of them who don't need to look at what they're drawing to render it perfectly. Not once has it occurred to me to think that someone or something else was doing the drawing for them, no more than it occurs to me to think Someone or some- thing else is thinking my thoughts when I type them without looking at the keyboard. I think that this is a classic example of drawing bullseyes around arrows; that is, starting with a premise and interpreting anything one sees as valid- ation of that premise. What do you think? Was Raja Ravi Varma doing his own painting using an artist's version of touch typing, or was someone or some- thing else doing the painting for him? I think the responses here would be revealing.
[FairfieldLife] bio of Lama Wangdu
Chod expert, Lama Wangdu. Appeared to me in a dream once, revealing some confidential but very relevant/important information (which shall be revealed at a later date)...: http://www.lamawangdu.org/
[FairfieldLife] Movie: Hanna
Excellent thriller, starring two great actresses. One, 41 at the time of filming, has had decades to establish her 'street cred' as an actress, to the tune of four Oscar nominations and one Oscar win. The other is a lightweight by comparison, and has only been nominated for one Oscar. But then she's only 16. Cate Blanchett is good in this movie, but Saoirse Ronan is much, much better. Imagine that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zd4zGt13IE
Re: [FairfieldLife] Bible statistics - who killed more, God or Satan?
G Barry, just now figuring that out? What do you think all those Baptist ministers have been screaming about all your life? Check- out the Book of Revelation after reading Genesis(flood). From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 3:54:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Bible statistics - who killed more, God or Satan? Seems to me that Satan is not the guy we need to be worried about. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Conspirators
Saw it the day it came out. It was very well done. It was kind of funny to listen to the attorneys in the audience chuckling and giggling about how outrageous the Military(Kangaroo) Court was. From: Yifu Xero yifux...@yahoo.com To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, April 19, 2011 1:43:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Conspirators - Subject: Conspirators fairly good movie, Conspirators (or Conspirator?) mostly about the trial, convinction, and hanging of Mary Surratt; (along with the other 3). Directed by Robert Redford, recommended if you're into history and/or Constitutional Law. Basically, presented as a gross miscarriage of justice re: Mary Surratt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Execution_Lincoln_assassins.jpg http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/37178.jpg .
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bible statistics - who killed more, God or Satan?
thx,...curious statements in Genesis. Satan is associated with the Tree (of knowledge and experience); whereas YHVH is associated with outright acceptance of His Deity-ship. Due to the supposed Fall of Adam and Eve, a voice says now they're like us.(now you've got to learn things for yourself). ... My take on this: The culprit here is YHVH, not Satan. Satan's position is that people have to learn on their own through evolution, contrasting Good vs Evil, and acquiring Knowledge. ... YHVH's position is that humans were supposed to bypass the learning process altogether and accept Him as Lord. ... Sounds like MMY - something like...just accept what I say and you'll be happy. http://www.feebleminds-gifs.com/horned-demon.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: G Barry, just now figuring that out? What do you think all those Baptist ministers have been screaming about all your life? Check- out the Book of Revelation after reading Genesis(flood). From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 3:54:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Bible statistics - who killed more, God or Satan? Â Seems to me that Satan is not the guy we need to be worried about. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie: Hanna
Turq, I almost walked on this one. Sure, the girl's a sweet babe, and I've always loved C.B., but good lord, what a typical cliched spy-sleeper, rogue agent, DNA manipulation yawn fest. --- On Thu, 4/21/11, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Movie: Hanna To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 21, 2011, 5:32 PM Excellent thriller, starring two great actresses. One, 41 at the time of filming, has had decades to establish her 'street cred' as an actress, to the tune of four Oscar nominations and one Oscar win. The other is a lightweight by comparison, and has only been nominated for one Oscar. But then she's only 16. Cate Blanchett is good in this movie, but Saoirse Ronan is much, much better. Imagine that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zd4zGt13IE To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
[FairfieldLife] Speechless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZCl2bi-JDYfeature=youtube_gdata_player
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[FairfieldLife] Now It Can Be Told: 'Just in C.C.'
Zeno Nagarjuna reveals the dirty little secret. Yer jus' a figment of my imagination ... bitch! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote: CC is not a static state but is a signpost on the road to development of freedom... Bhairitu: One is just moving towards Brahman anyway so these are just the scenery along the way... Actually, people are not moving anywhere. Brahman is an already existent; not an object of cognition, and absent all movement. All people need to do is *isolate* the scenery from the Reality. The scenery is just apparently moving, but not really - things don't really move about from one place to another. Perceived movement is just a series of thought instants. Movement is impossible - it's just an illusion.
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: : WHAT DOES DONALD TRUMP KNOW ABOUT OBAMA?
---BeginMessage--- : WHAT DOES DONALD TRUMP KNOW ABOUT OBAMA? It's just common knowledge that citizens of a country and especially American citizens who even know that Andrew Jackson's wife smoked a corn cob pipe and was accused of adultery or that Lincoln never went to school or Kennedy wore a back brace or Truman played the piano. Good grief... we are Americans! We are known for our humanitarian interests and caring for our 'fellow man'. We care, but none of us know one single humanizing fact about the history of our own president. Honestly, and this is a personal thing...but it's niggled at me for ages that no one who ever dated him ever showed up. The simple fact of his charisma that caused the women to be drawn to him so obviously during his campaign, looks like some lady would not have missed the opportunity We all know about JFK's magnetism, McCain was no monk, Palin's courtship and even her athletic prowess were probed... Biden's aneurisms are no secret. Look at Cheney and Clinton.. we all know about their heart problems and certainly speaking of the opposite sex- how could I have left out Wild Bill before or during the White House? Nope not one lady has stepped up and said, He was s shy... or What a great dancer!! Now look at the rest of this... no classmates, not even the reco rder for the Columbia class notes ever heard of him .. I just don't know about this fellow. Who was the best man at his wedding? Start there. Then check groomsmen. Then get the footage of the graduation ceremony. Has anyone talked to the professors? It is odd that no one is bragging that they knew him or taught him or lived with him. When did he meet Michele and how? Are there photos there? Every president gives to the public all their photos, etc. for their library, etc. What has he released? And who in hell voted for him to be the most popular man in 2010? Does this make you wonder? Ever wonder why no one ever came forward from President Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc. ?? Not one person has ever come forward from his past. VERY, VERY STRANGE.. This should really be a cause for great concern. To those who voted for him, you may have elected an unqualified, inexperienced shadow man. Did you see a picture called The Manchurian Candidate?. Let's face it. As insignificant as we all are .. someone whom we went to school with remembers our name or face ... someone remembers we were the clown or the dork or the brain or the quiet one or the bully or something about us. George Stephanopoulos of ABC News said the same thing during the 2008 campaign. He questions why no one has acknowledged the president was in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or made impromptu speeches on campus. Stephanopoulos also was a classmate of Obama at Columbia -- the class of 1984. He says he never had a single class with him. While he is such a great orator, why doesn't anyone in Obama's college class remember him? And, why won't he allow Columbia to release his records? NOBODY REMEMBERS OBAMA AT COLUMBIA Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there, but none remembered him. Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, I don't know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia .. EVER! Nobody recalls him. Root adds that he was also, like Obama, Class of '83 political science, pre-law and says, You don't get more exact or closer than that.. Never met him in my life, don't know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack! And five years ago, nobody even knew who he was. The guy who writes the class notes, who's kind of the, as we say in New York, 'the macha' who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him. Obama's photograph does not appear in the school's yearbook and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia , provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia .. NOTE: Root graduated as Valedictorian from his high school, Thornton-Donovan School , then graduated from Columbia University in 1983 as a Political Science major in the same class in which Barack Hussein Obama states he was. Some other interesting questions.. Why was Obama's law license inactivated in 2002? Why was Michelle's law license inactivated by Court Order? It is circulating that according to the U.S.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Now It Can Be Told: 'Just in C.C.'
emptybill: Zeno Nagarjuna reveals the dirty little secret. Like Bradley, Nagarjuna would dialectically analyze every concept and show that it is neither existent, nor non-existent, nor both, nor neither. Yer jus' a figment of my imagination ... Actually, it is not correct, in the case of Shankara's Advaita, to say that things and events are a 'figment' of one's imagination, that is, imaginary constructs. Things and events are not real, yet not unreal, is a more accurate statement vis-a-vis Advaita. Illusions are real while they are being perceived, but it is a superimposition on the real. The rope, mistaken for a snake, is a real event, just not an accurate perception. Likewise, the horns on a hare, sky-flower, etc. So, we perceive that things move about, but all perceptions are filtered through our consciousness. See how the flag moves in the wind? Maybe it's your mind that is moving. - Old Zen Saying So, if I am driving down a Texas highway out by Eldorado and I see what looks like a wet spot on the road, even though it has not rained in sixty days, do I swerve and brake and run into a ditch? CC is not a static state but is a signpost on the road to development of freedom... One is just moving towards Brahman anyway so these are just the scenery along the way... Actually, people are not moving anywhere. Brahman is an already existent; not an object of cognition, and absent all movement. All people need to do is *isolate* the scenery from the Reality. The scenery is just apparently moving, but not really - things don't really move about from one place to another. Perceived movement is just a series of thought instants. Movement is impossible - it's just an illusion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bible statistics - who killed more, God or Satan?
'The Kingdom of Heaven is Within'... Your Divine Nature: is located within as your own 'Being'... Ego is located in your mind as your false self... The mind creating a false sense of self, that is not pure 'Being'... When you have gone the distance, and have lost interest in what the mind or ego has to offer... You understand that the only true self is Unmanifested Eternal Being. This has nothing to do with accepting what anyone says, but more to do with 'Direct Experience' of what Yeshua called the: 'Kingdom of Heaven' within... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: thx,...curious statements in Genesis. Satan is associated with the Tree (of knowledge and experience); whereas YHVH is associated with outright acceptance of His Deity-ship. Due to the supposed Fall of Adam and Eve, a voice says now they're like us.(now you've got to learn things for yourself). ... My take on this: The culprit here is YHVH, not Satan. Satan's position is that people have to learn on their own through evolution, contrasting Good vs Evil, and acquiring Knowledge. ... YHVH's position is that humans were supposed to bypass the learning process altogether and accept Him as Lord. ... Sounds like MMY - something like...just accept what I say and you'll be happy. http://www.feebleminds-gifs.com/horned-demon.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote: G Barry, just now figuring that out? What do you think all those Baptist ministers have been screaming about all your life? Check- out the Book of Revelation after reading Genesis(flood). From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 3:54:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Bible statistics - who killed more, God or Satan? Â Seems to me that Satan is not the guy we need to be worried about. :-)
[FairfieldLife] As Sai Baba's condition worsens, succession war hots up in Puttaparthi
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/As-Sai-Babas-condition-worsens-succ ession-war-hots-up-in-Puttaparthi/articleshow/8052662.cms?intenttarget=no http://tinyurl.com/3g69wcs
RE: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: : WHAT DOES DONALD TRUMP KNOW ABOUT OBAMA?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/columbia.asp
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus self-deceived?
The problem I see with Jesus being a man in UC,according to M's teaching, is that you need a master in UC to bring you into that awareness. The master enlightens the disciple with the Mahavakya, I am that, Thou art That , all This is That and nothing but That Is. I don't see any figures in Jesus' life to fit that bill. I know it's hard for many to believe the accounts of the Gospels, for whatever reasons they can come up with. I mean...if they were true,that would mean that all those mean, dastardly, vile, hypocrites were right and all my self exploration and self righteousness was a waste of time, money and a life. But after 41 years of off and on regular meditation and M teaching about yagyas, I had to ask myself, why couldn't God Almighty see mankind as so hopeless that only a particular *yagya*, descending as a man, living a perfect life and offering that perfect sinless life in atonement for all of mankind's sins was man's only hope. All that was required was acceptance of the *yagya*, the sacrifice, on your behalf and a repentant heart, not a perfect heart, but a repentant one. Of course, Jesus wasn't teaching Moksha, but redemption, salvation and resurrection. Perhaps both moksha and salvation both exist and we have a choice. Tens of thousands of life times doing your program and still entering heaven and hell between births to get liberated or one life time to attain salvation. Personally, I love the Gospel of John, Jesus' best friend and first disciple. In the beginning, the Word already existed. He was with God, and he was God.He was in the beginning with God. He created everything there is. Nothing exists that he didn't make. Life itself was in him,and this life gives light to everyone. The light shines through the darkness, and the darkness can never extinguish it. Life is about choices. Some see the light, others don't. From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 11:49:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus self-deceived? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: http://y-jesus.com/jesuscomplex_10.php Interesting question, and provocative in that we can pose the same question for any Teacher/Guru. The article here suggests that being a great moral teacher (acknowledging that premise) disallows a. His being and liar, (OK, we can suppose that); I think the writer pretty much demolishes that idea. But it isn't impossible that the God-claims were put in his mouth after the fact. ...but more important: b. that he was self-deceived. The writer argues this is incompatible with being a great moral teacher. Because such self-delusion would mean he was insane, the writer says. I reject this conclusion. Self-deception abounds! there's no end to it among all classes of people regardless of moral character. YMMV. I reject it too, but I'd suggest he may have been in Unity Consciousness and had no other way to interpret the experience. ...Thus, Jesus was self-deceived. That's my conclusion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: : WHAT DOES DONALD TRUMP KNOW ABOUT OBAMA?
wleed3: WHAT DOES DONALD TRUMP KNOW ABOUT OBAMA? Jerome Corsi's Where's the Birth Certificate continued questions will either be answered or remain inconclusive. However, no matter what the media says about the issue, people are curious as Corsi's book hit the Amazon charts hard and fast today... Hot Air: http://tinyurl.com/4xmmarl 'Where's the Birth Certificate?' The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President By Jerome Corsi http://tinyurl.com/3zvjkno
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: : WHAT DOES DONALD TRUMP KNOW ABOUT OBAMA?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of WillyTex Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: : WHAT DOES DONALD TRUMP KNOW ABOUT OBAMA? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Corsi wleed3: WHAT DOES DONALD TRUMP KNOW ABOUT OBAMA? Jerome Corsi's Where's the Birth Certificate continued questions will either be answered or remain inconclusive. However, no matter what the media says about the issue, people are curious as Corsi's book hit the Amazon charts hard and fast today... Hot Air: http://tinyurl.com/4xmmarl 'Where's the Birth Certificate?' The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President By Jerome Corsi http://tinyurl.com/3zvjkno
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus self-deceived?
thx, I totally agree. Moksha and Salvation - liberation from Duality, Heaven on Earth, and the Celestial Kingdom. Absolute Realization and relative fulfillment. Advaitins would argue that only the Self-Realization is important, since (they say); this would entail Happiness regardless of circumstances. ... I would argue that the circumstances are important too. One can live in a toxic environment, or a pure environment. http://www.feebleminds-gifs.com/wizard-flames.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: The problem I see with Jesus being a man in UC,according to M's teaching, is that you need a master in UC to bring you into that awareness. The master enlightens the disciple with the Mahavakya, I am that, Thou art That , all This is That and nothing but That Is. I don't see any figures in Jesus' life to fit that bill. I know it's hard for many to believe the accounts of the Gospels, for whatever reasons they can come up with. I mean...if they were true,that would mean that all those mean, dastardly, vile, hypocrites were right and all my self exploration and self righteousness was a waste of time, money and a life. But after 41 years of off and on regular meditation and M teaching about yagyas, I had to ask myself, why couldn't God Almighty see mankind as so hopeless that only a particular *yagya*, descending as a man, living a perfect life and offering that perfect sinless life in atonement for all of mankind's sins was man's only hope. All that was required was acceptance of the *yagya*, the sacrifice, on your behalf and a repentant heart, not a perfect heart, but a repentant one. Of course, Jesus wasn't teaching Moksha, but redemption, salvation and resurrection. Perhaps both moksha and salvation both exist and we have a choice. Tens of thousands of life times doing your program and still entering heaven and hell between births to get liberated or one life time to attain salvation. Personally, I love the Gospel of John, Jesus' best friend and first disciple. In the beginning, the Word already existed. He was with God, and he was God.He was in the beginning with God. He created everything there is. Nothing exists that he didn't make. Life itself was in him,and this life gives light to everyone. The light shines through the darkness, and the darkness can never extinguish it.      Life is about choices. Some see the light, others don't. From: authfriend jstein@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 11:49:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus self-deceived?  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: http://y-jesus.com/jesuscomplex_10.php Interesting question, and provocative in that we can pose the same question for any Teacher/Guru. The article here suggests that being a great moral teacher (acknowledging that premise) disallows a. His being and liar, (OK, we can suppose that); I think the writer pretty much demolishes that idea. But it isn't impossible that the God-claims were put in his mouth after the fact. ...but more important: b. that he was self-deceived. The writer argues this is incompatible with being a great moral teacher. Because such self-delusion would mean he was insane, the writer says. I reject this conclusion. Self-deception abounds! there's no end to it among all classes of people regardless of moral character. YMMV. I reject it too, but I'd suggest he may have been in Unity Consciousness and had no other way to interpret the experience. ...Thus, Jesus was self-deceived. That's my conclusion.
[FairfieldLife] Texas wild fires and rehab
I'm having a ball this week. I've been volunteering at a wildlife rehabilitation center that is bringing in lots of baby wild animals orphaned by the wild fires all over the state. With my falconry skills, I've been put in charge of taking care of a bunch of baby Red-Tailed hawks. They are so cute. Couldn't be more than a week old and too young to have any fear of humans. We hope to adopt them out to falconers so they can be taught how and what to hunt, since mom and dad normally do that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: : WHAT DOES DONALD TRUMP KNOW ABOUT OBAMA?
Billy, Rick hit Snopes before I did, but you have clearly identified yourself, with this post, as a person who believes whatever happens to fall into their e-mail in box as truth. That's just effing lazy man! Tell you whatif you want to cling to this birther bullshit write me off line. I'll bet you a large sum of money that it's a black hole of conspiracy nuts without any merit. Are you willing to put up? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3 WLeed3@... wrote:  : WHAT DOES DONALD TRUMP KNOW ABOUT OBAMA? It's just common knowledge that citizens of a country and especially American citizens who even know that Andrew Jackson's wife smoked a corn cob pipe and was accused of adultery or that Lincoln never went to school or Kennedy wore a back brace or Truman played the piano. Good grief... we are Americans! We are known for our humanitarian interests and caring for our 'fellow man'. We care, but none of us know one single humanizing fact about the history of our own president. Honestly, and this is a personal thing...but it's niggled at me for ages that no one who ever dated him ever showed up. The simple fact of his charisma that caused the women to be drawn to him so obviously during his campaign, looks like some lady would not have missed the opportunity We all know about JFK's magnetism, McCain was no monk, Palin's courtship and even her athletic prowess were probed... Biden's aneurisms are no secret. Look at Cheney and Clinton.. we all know about their heart problems and certainly speaking of the opposite sex- how could I have left out Wild Bill before or during the White House? Nope not one lady has stepped up and said, He was s shy... or What a great dancer!! Now look at the rest of this... no classmates, not even the reco rder for the Columbia class notes ever heard of him .. I just don't know about this fellow. Who was the best man at his wedding? Start there. Then check groomsmen. Then get the footage of the graduation ceremony. Has anyone talked to the professors? It is odd that no one is bragging that they knew him or taught him or lived with him. When did he meet Michele and how? Are there photos there? Every president gives to the public all their photos, etc. for their library, etc. What has he released? And who in hell voted for him to be the most popular man in 2010? Does this make you wonder? Ever wonder why no one ever came forward from President Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc. ?? Not one person has ever come forward from his past. VERY, VERY STRANGE.. This should really be a cause for great concern. To those who voted for him, you may have elected an unqualified, inexperienced shadow man. Did you see a picture called The Manchurian Candidate?. Let's face it. As insignificant as we all are .. someone whom we went to school with remembers our name or face ... someone remembers we were the clown or the dork or the brain or the quiet one or the bully or something about us. George Stephanopoulos of ABC News said the same thing during the 2008 campaign. He questions why no one has acknowledged the president was in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or made impromptu speeches on campus. Stephanopoulos also was a classmate of Obama at Columbia -- the class of 1984. He says he never had a single class with him. While he is such a great orator, why doesn't anyone in Obama's college class remember him? And, why won't he allow Columbia to release his records? NOBODY REMEMBERS OBAMA AT COLUMBIA Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there, but none remembered him. Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, I don't know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia .. EVER! Nobody recalls him. Root adds that he was also, like Obama, Class of '83 political science, pre-law and says, You don't get more exact or closer than that.. Never met him in my life, don't know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack! And five years ago, nobody even knew who he was. The guy who writes the class notes, who's kind of the, as we say in New York, 'the macha' who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him. Obama's photograph does not appear in the school's yearbook and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at
[FairfieldLife] Sergio the dead guitar player
by Summerlander in the Astropulse blog. I had a dream about a friend of mine whom I haven't seen in a long time. His name his Mark and I think he is currently living in Malaysia. In the dream, me, him and other friends were intruders in a big house where we found things that we liked. I was finding things that related to interests that me and Mark shared, especially to do with music. Then, Mark said that the owner of the house was coming and that he would not like to see me there so I left. Once I stepped outside, I became lucid. I was in a town full of casinos houses, arcade games and other entertainment. The scenery was no different to the waking world in quality. If I hadn't become lucid, I would have believed it to be physically real. I knelt down to feel the ground beneath me. The tactile sensation I experienced was realistic. I could still see things clearly in the dream even when I experienced a hissing pulsation in my head. I closed my eyes and opened them again to find myself in darkness. I decided to go somewhere random as I didn't have anything in mind and experienced motion before regaining physical awareness. I remained still in bed and it didn't take long for a strong vibrational surge to ensue. I rolled over and floated upwards and out of the body. Vision came not long after that. I hovered near the ceiling directly above the bed where Stacey lay, and, oddly, where I should be was my sister Vanessa tossing and turning as though she was having a nightmare. It didn't make any sense. Vanessa lives with my mother all the way across London from me. I started to explore the environment and glided into the hallway. I was in a metaphysical replica of my house. The atmosphere was sombre but the colours were sharpish and structures were well defined. I stepped into the hallway mirror slowly and went through it as though it was a portal to another world. On the other side I encountered what could be regarded as an small and darker extension of the dream house I was in. I scanned the room and found my deceased stepfather Sergio in the corner next to a luminescent mirror-entrance. He looked as young as a pre-teenager but he possessed a manly adult voice when he spoke. We greeted each other before he offered to play an acoustic guitar that was propped up against the wall. I noticed that the floor of that room was as soft as a mattress and was covered by blankets. As Sergio started to strum the guitar, I heard a funky bass line in my head which sounded like Michael Jackson's Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough. Then I heard the acoustic sounds which seemed to compliment the bass line well. I was overcome with emotion and started crying. He stopped playing and stared at me with his child-like face. He grabbed my arm and a tear escaped from his eye. We embraced and I felt that reality evanesce to be replaced by the awareness of laying in bed coupled with mild sizzling in my head.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus self-deceived?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: The problem I see with Jesus being a man in UC,according to M's teaching, is that you need a master in UC to bring you into that awareness. The master enlightens the disciple with the Mahavakya, I am that, Thou art That, all This is That and nothing but That Is. I don't see any figures in Jesus' life to fit that bill. John the Baptist? Or what about during the missing years? I'm not convinced it *has* to happen this way, though. I know it's hard for many to believe the accounts of the Gospels, for whatever reasons they can come up with. I mean... if they were true,that would mean that all those mean, dastardly, vile, hypocrites were right and all my self exploration and self righteousness was a waste of time, money and a life. I'm not getting this. Which hypocrites are you talking about? But after 41 years of off and on regular meditation and M teaching about yagyas, I had to ask myself, why couldn't God Almighty see mankind as so hopeless that only a particular *yagya*, descending as a man, living a perfect life and offering that perfect sinless life in atonement for all of mankind's sins was man's only hope. All that was required was acceptance of the *yagya*, the sacrifice, on your behalf and a repentant heart, not a perfect heart, but a repentant one. Thing is, all this about sacrifice and substitutionary atonement wasn't Jesus's teaching, it was Paul's. I happen to think it's an absolutely brilliant teaching psychologically, and it's obviously worked wonderfully for many people who believe in it. It's just way too anthropomorphic for me; it simply doesn't resonate. Of course, Jesus wasn't teaching Moksha, but redemption, salvation and resurrection. Perhaps both moksha and salvation both exist and we have a choice. Tens of thousands of life times doing your program and still entering heaven and hell between births to get liberated or one life time to attain salvation. Or maybe both...maybe you have to go through thouse tens of thousands of lives before you're ready to have that one life where you attain salvation. Personally, I love the Gospel of John, Jesus' best friend and first disciple. In the beginning, the Word already existed. He was with God, and he was God.He was in the beginning with God. He created everything there is. Nothing exists that he didn't make. Life itself was in him,and this life gives light to everyone. The light shines through the darkness, and the darkness can never extinguish it. Life is about choices. Some see the light, others don't. But is that really a *choice*, to see the light or not? I don't think you can choose to believe, in Jesus or anything else. I think belief is something that happens to you. And I actively *disbelieve* in the notion that God requires a certain very specific belief or you're out of luck. I find that repugnant. I envy those who have faith. But it's never been something I could talk myself into.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus self-deceived?
comment below that Substitutionary Atonement wasn't Jesus' teaching, but rather Paul's:. In support of a more global, supportive approach beyond Paul, proponents offer John 3:14-18, John 12:27-33; Isaiah 53: 1-12; I Peter 3:18, and Luke 4:16-22. (from Wiki): ... Technically speaking, substitutionary atonement is the name given to a number of Christian models of the atonement that all regard Jesus as dying as a substitute for others, instead of them. It is thought to be expressed in the Bible in passages such as He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness,[1 Pet. 2:24] and For Christ also died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God.[1 Pet. 3:18] (although other ways of reading passages like this are also offered).[1][2] There is also a less technical use of the term 'substitution' in discussion about atonement when it is used in 'the sense that [Jesus, through his death,] did for us that which we can never do for ourselves'.[3] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote: The problem I see with Jesus being a man in UC,according to M's teaching, is that you need a master in UC to bring you into that awareness. The master enlightens the disciple with the Mahavakya, I am that, Thou art That, all This is That and nothing but That Is. I don't see any figures in Jesus' life to fit that bill. John the Baptist? Or what about during the missing years? I'm not convinced it *has* to happen this way, though. I know it's hard for many to believe the accounts of the Gospels, for whatever reasons they can come up with. I mean... if they were true,that would mean that all those mean, dastardly, vile, hypocrites were right and all my self exploration and self righteousness was a waste of time, money and a life. I'm not getting this. Which hypocrites are you talking about? But after 41 years of off and on regular meditation and M teaching about yagyas, I had to ask myself, why couldn't God Almighty see mankind as so hopeless that only a particular *yagya*, descending as a man, living a perfect life and offering that perfect sinless life in atonement for all of mankind's sins was man's only hope. All that was required was acceptance of the *yagya*, the sacrifice, on your behalf and a repentant heart, not a perfect heart, but a repentant one. Thing is, all this about sacrifice and substitutionary atonement wasn't Jesus's teaching, it was Paul's. I happen to think it's an absolutely brilliant teaching psychologically, and it's obviously worked wonderfully for many people who believe in it. It's just way too anthropomorphic for me; it simply doesn't resonate. Of course, Jesus wasn't teaching Moksha, but redemption, salvation and resurrection. Perhaps both moksha and salvation both exist and we have a choice. Tens of thousands of life times doing your program and still entering heaven and hell between births to get liberated or one life time to attain salvation. Or maybe both...maybe you have to go through thouse tens of thousands of lives before you're ready to have that one life where you attain salvation. Personally, I love the Gospel of John, Jesus' best friend and first disciple. In the beginning, the Word already existed. He was with God, and he was God.He was in the beginning with God. He created everything there is. Nothing exists that he didn't make. Life itself was in him,and this life gives light to everyone. The light shines through the darkness, and the darkness can never extinguish it. Life is about choices. Some see the light, others don't. But is that really a *choice*, to see the light or not? I don't think you can choose to believe, in Jesus or anything else. I think belief is something that happens to you. And I actively *disbelieve* in the notion that God requires a certain very specific belief or you're out of luck. I find that repugnant. I envy those who have faith. But it's never been something I could talk myself into.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Texas wild fires and rehab
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: I'm having a ball this week. I've been volunteering at a wildlife rehabilitation center that is bringing in lots of baby wild animals orphaned by the wild fires all over the state. With my falconry skills, I've been put in charge of taking care of a bunch of baby Red-Tailed hawks. They are so cute. Couldn't be more than a week old and too young to have any fear of humans. We hope to adopt them out to falconers so they can be taught how and what to hunt, since mom and dad normally do that. Oh, how fabulous, Mike. Sort of bittersweet, but must be a great thrill as well. Are you taking pictures, or video? There's a red-tail couple (Violet and Bobby) that has a nest with three eggs on the 11th floor of an NYU building in Manhattan that the NY Times has a live camera on. The hatching window began today and will go till the 28th. I forgot to check today, so I don't know if anything has happened yet. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/06/hawk-cam-live-from-the-nest/?ref=nyregion http://tinyurl.com/3p2ttdt
[FairfieldLife] Seven Faces
This is a mutation of my earlier Seven Faces of the World, or part two perhaps. Gets to the groove sooner. Its 8:18 and I think the genre is ambient transcendental. On top of that, I hope it is entertaining: Seven Faces http://www.box.net/shared/44hyp907ct copyright temple dog and jim flanegin
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus self-deceived?
Remember, though, that Paul's Epistles are thought to have been the first-written books of the Christian Scriptures, before any of the Gospels. He got the substitutionary atonement notion from Isaiah, the whole suffering servant sequence and other verses. And Paul certainly developed it at greater length and in more depth than any of the other writers of the Christian Scriptures. But the main point is that Jesus never mentions it in the Gospels. It was very much after the fact. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: comment below that Substitutionary Atonement wasn't Jesus' teaching, but rather Paul's:. In support of a more global, supportive approach beyond Paul, proponents offer John 3:14-18, John 12:27-33; Isaiah 53: 1-12; I Peter 3:18, and Luke 4:16-22. (from Wiki): ... Technically speaking, substitutionary atonement is the name given to a number of Christian models of the atonement that all regard Jesus as dying as a substitute for others, instead of them. It is thought to be expressed in the Bible in passages such as He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness,[1 Pet. 2:24] and For Christ also died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God.[1 Pet. 3:18] (although other ways of reading passages like this are also offered).[1][2] There is also a less technical use of the term 'substitution' in discussion about atonement when it is used in 'the sense that [Jesus, through his death,] did for us that which we can never do for ourselves'.[3] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote: The problem I see with Jesus being a man in UC,according to M's teaching, is that you need a master in UC to bring you into that awareness. The master enlightens the disciple with the Mahavakya, I am that, Thou art That, all This is That and nothing but That Is. I don't see any figures in Jesus' life to fit that bill. John the Baptist? Or what about during the missing years? I'm not convinced it *has* to happen this way, though. I know it's hard for many to believe the accounts of the Gospels, for whatever reasons they can come up with. I mean... if they were true,that would mean that all those mean, dastardly, vile, hypocrites were right and all my self exploration and self righteousness was a waste of time, money and a life. I'm not getting this. Which hypocrites are you talking about? But after 41 years of off and on regular meditation and M teaching about yagyas, I had to ask myself, why couldn't God Almighty see mankind as so hopeless that only a particular *yagya*, descending as a man, living a perfect life and offering that perfect sinless life in atonement for all of mankind's sins was man's only hope. All that was required was acceptance of the *yagya*, the sacrifice, on your behalf and a repentant heart, not a perfect heart, but a repentant one. Thing is, all this about sacrifice and substitutionary atonement wasn't Jesus's teaching, it was Paul's. I happen to think it's an absolutely brilliant teaching psychologically, and it's obviously worked wonderfully for many people who believe in it. It's just way too anthropomorphic for me; it simply doesn't resonate. Of course, Jesus wasn't teaching Moksha, but redemption, salvation and resurrection. Perhaps both moksha and salvation both exist and we have a choice. Tens of thousands of life times doing your program and still entering heaven and hell between births to get liberated or one life time to attain salvation. Or maybe both...maybe you have to go through thouse tens of thousands of lives before you're ready to have that one life where you attain salvation. Personally, I love the Gospel of John, Jesus' best friend and first disciple. In the beginning, the Word already existed. He was with God, and he was God.He was in the beginning with God. He created everything there is. Nothing exists that he didn't make. Life itself was in him,and this life gives light to everyone. The light shines through the darkness, and the darkness can never extinguish it. Life is about choices. Some see the light, others don't. But is that really a *choice*, to see the light or not? I don't think you can choose to believe, in Jesus or anything else. I think belief is something that happens to you. And I actively *disbelieve* in the notion that God requires a certain very specific belief or you're out of luck. I find that repugnant. I envy those who have faith. But it's never been something I could talk myself into.
[FairfieldLife] Zombie Apostles
Catholics have always struck me as wusses with all of their fake body of Christ, blood of Christ stuff. Why not go for the real thing? [http://i.imgur.com/Vl6cS.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] No matter how hard you try, you will never be as cool as this guy
That's what Reddit said about this video. They have a point. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d53_1303269425
[FairfieldLife] Nation's Mood at a Low Level
The main issues for the next election will be the economy, federal deficit, national debt, and the wars overseas. The person with the right answer wins. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/22/us/22poll.html?_r=1hp
