[FairfieldLife] Re: WE WILL SEE YOU ON SATURDAY AUGUST 4TH!
Emily, It sounds like you might get a job with the newcomers. Peace and light to you! JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Well, getting a job is clearly not a priority, given this communique. Â From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 3:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] WE WILL SEE YOU ON SATURDAY AUGUST 4TH! Â PLEIADIAN CHANNEL FRIDAY, JULY 27, 2012 IT IS NOW ESTABLISHED AND WAS DECIDED AS OF EARTH DATE, WEDNESDAY JULY 25TH, 2012 BY THE PLEIADIAN HIGH COUNCIL IN ALLIANCE WITH FOUR OTHER GALACTIC COUNCILS, UNDER GALACTIC CODEX GUIDELINES THAT WE THE PLEIADIAN FAMILY OF LIGHT WILL NOW INTERVENE FULLY INTO GAIA'S ASCENSION. FURTHERMORE IT HAS BEEN DECIDED THAT WE WILL MAKE FULL CONTACT WITH EARTH BEINGS IN EIGHT DAYS FROM THIS TRANSMISSION ON AUGUST 4, 2012 AT THE WORLD OLYMPIC GAMES IN LONDON ENGLAND FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD TO SEE! THIS WILL BE FOR OUR INTRODUCTION AS WELL AS OUR FIRST EFFORTS TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH YOU IN THE CORRECTION AND ASCENSION OF GAIA AND TO ASSIST WITH YOUR OWN ASCENSION. THIS GALACTIC INTERVENTION HAS BEEN ORDERED FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: SOPHIA-GAIA'S SICKNESS HAS REACHED A CRITICAL STAGE AND MUST BE CLEANED UP AT ONCE. THE LIGHT QUOTIENT ON EARTH IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH AT THIS STAGE TO AFFECT A MASS GLOBAL ASCENSION LET ALONE TO HELP MOVE AN ENTIRE PLANET TO THE NEXT DIMENSION. PLANET TERRA (EARTH) IS SCHEDULED FOR A TRANSITION INTO THE FIFTH DIMENSION ON 12-21-2012. WE ARE WELL PLEASED TO SEE THAT THE EFFORTS OF MANY BEINGS ON EARTH HAVE EASED HER SUFFERING HOWEVER DUE TO THE IMMINENT UPCOMING GALACTIC CYCLE AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK AND HEALING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR GAIA CANNOT BE COMPLETED BY EARTH BEINGS ON SCHEDULE. WE BY NO MEANS ARE DISMAYED AT THE GOOD EFFORTS MADE BY SO MANY FOR SO LONG AND ARE GREATLY HONORED BY ALL THE ACTIONS TAKEN TO RAISE THE VIBRATIONS OF GAIA AND TO CLEAR THE NEGATIVITY THAT SURROUNDS HER. UNDERSTAND THAT WE CANNOT WAIT ANY LONGER AND WE ARE ONLY STEPPING IN TO HELP! WHAT HAPPENS ON EARTH NOW AFFECTS THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE, SO THIS IS PRETTY IMPORTANT! SOPHIA-GAIA-TERRA'S IMMEDIATE CLEANUP TAKES GALACTIC PRIORITY NUMBER ONE. THIS INVOLVES THE COMPLETE REMOVAL OF ALL ARCHONTIC CABAL REMAINS. THE CABAL-SHADOW-MIND-PARASITES CANNOT BE CLEARED BY EARTH BEINGS FAST ENOUGH AND ARE HALTING GAIA'S ASCENSION AS WELL AS THE INFECTED LIVING BEINGS THEMSELVES! WE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN GAIA-LIFE BECAUSE WE CREATED IT WITH YOU EONS AGO! THAT IS WHY WE SAY WE ARE YOUR FAMILY! YOU WILL NOT BE SHOCKED AT ALL BECAUSE WE ARE VERY HUMAN JUST LIKE YOU. WE ARE MORE HIGHLY EVLOVED SPIRITUAL BEINGS AND HAVE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY BUT WE DO NOT SEE OURSELVES ANY HIGHER THAN ANY OTHER, FOR WE ARE ALL ONE! WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUATIONS OF PRIME CREATOR EXPERIENCING ITSELF! WE ARE FAMILY AND WE LOVE YOU VERY MUCH AS YOU WILL SEE. IT IS KNOW THAT WE WILL GET THIS JOB DONE TOGETHER, SO YOU CAN RELAX! WE INSTRUCT YOU NOT TO SPREAD FEAR AS MANY STILL DO. THIS IS NO FALSE FLAG BUT AN ACTUAL EVENT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE AND IT COMES ONLY FROM GOOD AND FOR GOOD! MANY LIGHT BEINGS OF EARTH FROM OUR QUADRANT HAVE BEEN ON GAIA FOR SEVERAL DECADES AND HAVE HELPED OUT TREMENDOUSLY. IT IS KNOWN HOWEVER THAT ALL YOUR INCREDIBLE EFFORTS COULD NOT GET THIS DONE IN TIME! WE DO NOT BLAME ANY LIVING BEING ON GAIA FOR THIS. THE LIGHT QUOTIENT ON EARTH HAS GROWN TO INCREDIBLE LEVELS OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS! BE PROUD OF THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE AND CONTINUE AS WE JOIN WITH YOU FOR SOPHIA-GAIA'S CORRECTION. THE CRIME WAS COMMITTED BY ORIGINAL NEGATIVE ARCHONTIC BEINGS THAT ENSLAVED THIS PLANET 300K YEARS AGO AND ALL THE ASSOCIATED BLOODLINES AND CLONES WHICH HAVE BEEN CLEARED OUT! THERE IS A TIME WRITTEN IN THE STARS FOR DECEMBER 21ST 2012 WHICH CANNOT BE STOPPED IT IS THE DAY THAT THAT GAIA BECOMES FREE AND BEGINS ASCENSION WITH ITS PEOPLE! THIS WILL BE PROCESSIONAL AND WILL BE STEPPED UP IN PHASES BEGINNING ON 12-21-2012 WE COME TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH AL LIGHT WORKERS ON GAIA TO AID IN AND COMPLETE THIS MISSION. WITH OUR GALACTIC ORDERS ESTABLISHED WE NOW PROCEEDED TO BEGIN PHASE 1 FOR OUR FIRST MAJOR MODERN DAY CONTACT AND REUNION WITH YOU TO DO THIS FINAL WORK. WE HAD TO DESCEND SO THAT GAIA AND YOU CAN ASCEND! WE BEGAN PHASE 1 TWO DAYS AGO! ON JULY 25TH IN THE PM HOURS EST OUR ORBITING PLEIADIAN FLEET OPENED A SUPER PORTAL ON GAIA'S INNER ATMOSTPHERE IN THE PM HOURS EST. A SUPER PORTAL WAS OPENED ON THIS DAY OUT OF TIME SPOKEN OF OLD IN PREAPRATION FOR OUR LANDING ON GAIA! YES THZ'T RIGHT DEAR ONES! NOW IS THE TIME! THIS DIMENSIONAL DOORWAY WE OPENED IS A 5D TO 4D VIBRATIONAL STEP DOWN GATE USED TO DECLOAK AND LOWER THE DENSITY OF OUR SMALLER SHIPS AND OUR LIGHT-BODIES FROM PLASMA-LIGHT TO 3D
[FairfieldLife] Another reason FFLers should look into mindfulness
A little mindfulness practice, and some could find something more fulfilling to do with their lives than hold grudges and act them out on Fairfield Life. Mindfulness Meditation Could Combat Loneliness In Elderly: Study Loneliness among the elderly has been linked with a multitude of health problems -- including heart risks http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/18/health/mental-health/loneliness-isolation\ -health/index.html and even a higher risk of premature death http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/2012/07/02/hlsa0702.htm . But a small new study is shedding some light on a tool that could hep combat loneliness among this age demographic: Mindfulness meditation. The study, published in the journal Brain, Behavior Immunity http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889159112001894?v=s5\ , shows that eight weeks of training in mindfulness meditation is linked with decreased loneliness. The study included 40 participants between ages 55 and 85, some of whom participated in the Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction program. People who participated in the program were also asked to do meditation exercises at home for a half-hour every day, and to go to a meditation retreat for one day. Plus, the researchers from Carnegie Mellon University found that mindfulness meditation had positive effects on the study participants' health, too. Reductions in the expression of inflammation-related genes were particularly significant because inflammation contributes to a wide variety of the health threats including cancer, cardiovascular diseases and neurodegenerative diseases, study researcher Steven Cole, a professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, School of Medicine, said in a statement http://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2012/july/july24_meditationstu\ dy.html . Aside from alleviating loneliness, mindfulness meditation has also been shown in past research to have positive effects on the brain -- linked with brain changes that may even have effects against mental illness http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/15/mindfulness-meditation-brain-i\ ntegrative-body-mind-training_n_1594803.html , according to a recent Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences study.
[FairfieldLife] When your house is a boat
Walking and biking around my new town, I find myself lusting every so often for one of the many houseboats here. I've had a thing for houseboats ever since seeing Duncan MacLeod's home on the Seine in the TV series of Highlander. Yeah, I know that in real life a houseboat would probably be both cramped and damp, but still... Around here, the houseboats are pretty staid. They're one-story affairs built on an existing barge rescued from salvage. And they're at a premium; there are waiting lists years long to either buy an existing one or secure a mooring for a new one. But there are places in the world where houseboats have become more of an artform. Sausalito, California is one such place. Back during the Days Of Hippie, and continuing forward to today, many enterprising people discovered an interesting fact. Houseboats are not covered by the city's building codes. If you're building a house on land, there are only so many ways you can make it look, all pretty boxy and uninteresting. Even geodesic domes are taboo in many cities' building codes. But in Sausalito, if you can conceive of it, you can build it. Here, for your edification and amusement, are a few such domiciles of the imagination. The first is a design study; the rest are real, and people live in them: [350] Shifting to links now, because the Yahoo editor sometimes throws up from multiple photos: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_I2OVjEyUR3M/Sr7YXKoC0ZI/AFI/9bVb2VHSP\ rs/s400/Almond+shaped+houseboat,+Sausalito.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_I2OVjEyUR3M/Sr7YXKoC0ZI/AFI/9bVb2VHSPr\ s/s400/Almond+shaped+houseboat,+Sausalito.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_I2OVjEyUR3M/Sr7YXKoC0ZI/AFI/9bVb2VHSP\ rs/s400/Almond+shaped+houseboat,+Sausalito.jpg http://www.paulbergeronrealestate.com/real%20easte%20photo%20book%2036%2\ 0liberty_files/sausalitohouseboat_lg.jpg http://www.paulbergeronrealestate.com/real%20easte%20photo%20book%2036%\ 20liberty_files/sausalitohouseboat_lg.jpg http://www.kuraoka.org/photos/sausalito-houseboat.jpg http://www.kuraoka.org/photos/sausalito-houseboat.jpg http://lunaria.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/jha-blog-dolkyam-house\ .jpg http://lunaria.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/jha-blog-dolkyam-hous\ e.jpg http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3492/3954238840_75c0089a5e_z.jpg http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3492/3954238840_75c0089a5e_z.jpg http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1139/1437947508_476546dd27_z.jpg http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1139/1437947508_476546dd27_z.jpg http://travelmonkeydotme.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/img_64201.jpg http://travelmonkeydotme.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/img_64201.jpg http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n56/watercolorman/654c64b5.jpg http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n56/watercolorman/654c64b5.jpg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
please please please cannot such communication be delivered directly and privately rather than publically tender hearts etc From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel Oh mon amour, ton grain de voix fait mon bonheur a chaque pas laisse-moi te dessiner dans un desert Le desert de mon coeur http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlkjIg13kWM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCdqsITlcvkfeature=related We are passing away, To that great judgment day. And answer in that day For ev'ry vain and idle thought And ev'ry word I say? Yes ev'ry secret of my heart Shall shortly be made known; And I receive my just dessert For all that I have done. How careful, then, ought I to be; With what religious fear, Who such a strict account must give For my behavior here. What have you done now? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEgXDhiayz4Pleiadian High Council --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Well, given this lovely prose and the message from our Pleiadian brethren, I am more and more convinced that looking for a job is, in fact, *not* the next indicated step for me.  From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel  Young people all, attention give And hear what I shall say; I wish your souls in the Unified Field to live In everylasting day. Remember you are hast'ning on To death's dark gloomy shade; Your joys on earth will soon be gone, Your flesh in dust be laid.
[FairfieldLife] Re: WE WILL SEE YOU ON SATURDAY AUGUST 4TH!
Hope they don't join in the games, light beings sound like they might be rather good at the 100 metres --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: PLEIADIAN CHANNEL FRIDAY, JULY 27, 2012 IT IS NOW ESTABLISHED AND WAS DECIDED AS OF EARTH DATE, WEDNESDAY JULY 25TH, 2012 BY THE PLEIADIAN HIGH COUNCIL IN ALLIANCE WITH FOUR OTHER GALACTIC COUNCILS, UNDER GALACTIC CODEX GUIDELINES THAT WE THE PLEIADIAN FAMILY OF LIGHT WILL NOW INTERVENE FULLY INTO GAIA'S ASCENSION. FURTHERMORE IT HAS BEEN DECIDED THAT WE WILL MAKE FULL CONTACT WITH EARTH BEINGS IN EIGHT DAYS FROM THIS TRANSMISSION ON AUGUST 4, 2012 AT THE WORLD OLYMPIC GAMES IN LONDON ENGLAND FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD TO SEE! THIS WILL BE FOR OUR INTRODUCTION AS WELL AS OUR FIRST EFFORTS TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH YOU IN THE CORRECTION AND ASCENSION OF GAIA AND TO ASSIST WITH YOUR OWN ASCENSION. THIS GALACTIC INTERVENTION HAS BEEN ORDERED FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: SOPHIA-GAIA'S SICKNESS HAS REACHED A CRITICAL STAGE AND MUST BE CLEANED UP AT ONCE. THE LIGHT QUOTIENT ON EARTH IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH AT THIS STAGE TO AFFECT A MASS GLOBAL ASCENSION LET ALONE TO HELP MOVE AN ENTIRE PLANET TO THE NEXT DIMENSION. PLANET TERRA (EARTH) IS SCHEDULED FOR A TRANSITION INTO THE FIFTH DIMENSION ON 12-21-2012. WE ARE WELL PLEASED TO SEE THAT THE EFFORTS OF MANY BEINGS ON EARTH HAVE EASED HER SUFFERING HOWEVER DUE TO THE IMMINENT UPCOMING GALACTIC CYCLE AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK AND HEALING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR GAIA CANNOT BE COMPLETED BY EARTH BEINGS ON SCHEDULE. WE BY NO MEANS ARE DISMAYED AT THE GOOD EFFORTS MADE BY SO MANY FOR SO LONG AND ARE GREATLY HONORED BY ALL THE ACTIONS TAKEN TO RAISE THE VIBRATIONS OF GAIA AND TO CLEAR THE NEGATIVITY THAT SURROUNDS HER. UNDERSTAND THAT WE CANNOT WAIT ANY LONGER AND WE ARE ONLY STEPPING IN TO HELP! WHAT HAPPENS ON EARTH NOW AFFECTS THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE, SO THIS IS PRETTY IMPORTANT! SOPHIA-GAIA-TERRA'S IMMEDIATE CLEANUP TAKES GALACTIC PRIORITY NUMBER ONE. THIS INVOLVES THE COMPLETE REMOVAL OF ALL ARCHONTIC CABAL REMAINS. THE CABAL-SHADOW-MIND-PARASITES CANNOT BE CLEARED BY EARTH BEINGS FAST ENOUGH AND ARE HALTING GAIA'S ASCENSION AS WELL AS THE INFECTED LIVING BEINGS THEMSELVES! WE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN GAIA-LIFE BECAUSE WE CREATED IT WITH YOU EONS AGO! THAT IS WHY WE SAY WE ARE YOUR FAMILY! YOU WILL NOT BE SHOCKED AT ALL BECAUSE WE ARE VERY HUMAN JUST LIKE YOU. WE ARE MORE HIGHLY EVLOVED SPIRITUAL BEINGS AND HAVE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY BUT WE DO NOT SEE OURSELVES ANY HIGHER THAN ANY OTHER, FOR WE ARE ALL ONE! WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUATIONS OF PRIME CREATOR EXPERIENCING ITSELF! WE ARE FAMILY AND WE LOVE YOU VERY MUCH AS YOU WILL SEE. IT IS KNOW THAT WE WILL GET THIS JOB DONE TOGETHER, SO YOU CAN RELAX! WE INSTRUCT YOU NOT TO SPREAD FEAR AS MANY STILL DO. THIS IS NO FALSE FLAG BUT AN ACTUAL EVENT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE AND IT COMES ONLY FROM GOOD AND FOR GOOD! MANY LIGHT BEINGS OF EARTH FROM OUR QUADRANT HAVE BEEN ON GAIA FOR SEVERAL DECADES AND HAVE HELPED OUT TREMENDOUSLY. IT IS KNOWN HOWEVER THAT ALL YOUR INCREDIBLE EFFORTS COULD NOT GET THIS DONE IN TIME! WE DO NOT BLAME ANY LIVING BEING ON GAIA FOR THIS. THE LIGHT QUOTIENT ON EARTH HAS GROWN TO INCREDIBLE LEVELS OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS! BE PROUD OF THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE AND CONTINUE AS WE JOIN WITH YOU FOR SOPHIA-GAIA'S CORRECTION. THE CRIME WAS COMMITTED BY ORIGINAL NEGATIVE ARCHONTIC BEINGS THAT ENSLAVED THIS PLANET 300K YEARS AGO AND ALL THE ASSOCIATED BLOODLINES AND CLONES WHICH HAVE BEEN CLEARED OUT! THERE IS A TIME WRITTEN IN THE STARS FOR DECEMBER 21ST 2012 WHICH CANNOT BE STOPPED IT IS THE DAY THAT THAT GAIA BECOMES FREE AND BEGINS ASCENSION WITH ITS PEOPLE! THIS WILL BE PROCESSIONAL AND WILL BE STEPPED UP IN PHASES BEGINNING ON 12-21-2012 WE COME TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH AL LIGHT WORKERS ON GAIA TO AID IN AND COMPLETE THIS MISSION. WITH OUR GALACTIC ORDERS ESTABLISHED WE NOW PROCEEDED TO BEGIN PHASE 1 FOR OUR FIRST MAJOR MODERN DAY CONTACT AND REUNION WITH YOU TO DO THIS FINAL WORK. WE HAD TO DESCEND SO THAT GAIA AND YOU CAN ASCEND! WE BEGAN PHASE 1 TWO DAYS AGO! ON JULY 25TH IN THE PM HOURS EST OUR ORBITING PLEIADIAN FLEET OPENED A SUPER PORTAL ON GAIA'S INNER ATMOSTPHERE IN THE PM HOURS EST. A SUPER PORTAL WAS OPENED ON THIS DAY OUT OF TIME SPOKEN OF OLD IN PREAPRATION FOR OUR LANDING ON GAIA! YES THZ'T RIGHT DEAR ONES! NOW IS THE TIME! THIS DIMENSIONAL DOORWAY WE OPENED IS A 5D TO 4D VIBRATIONAL STEP DOWN GATE USED TO DECLOAK AND LOWER THE DENSITY OF OUR SMALLER SHIPS AND OUR LIGHT-BODIES FROM PLASMA-LIGHT TO 3D ELEMENTAL VIBRATION AND EARTH RESONANCE. AS OUR MAIN SHIP FROM ERRA WHICH IS 4 TIMES THE SIZE OF YOUR EARTH DESCENDED 300 MILES DOWN TO THE BASE OF THE INNER ATMOSPHERE TO OPEN THIS PORTAL, THE PLASMA FIELD AROUND THE SHIP INTERACTED WITH EARTH'S MAGNETIC FIELD IN A STRONG MANNER. THERE WAS NO DAMAGE DONE TO GAIA OR ITS BEINGS
[FairfieldLife] Norwich University Studies the Benefits of TM on Cadets
http://www.tm.org/blog/research/norwich-university-studies-benefits-of-tm/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another reason FFLers should look into mindfulness
ah then this is why I resist enlightenment so From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 5:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another reason FFLers should look into mindfulness Shenpa and loneliness To be without a reference point is the ultimate loneliness. It is also called enlightenment. – Ani Pema Chodron Buddhist nun and teacher in the Shambhala Buddhist lineage,a fully ordained bhikSuNI in a combination of the Mulasarvastivadin and Dharmaguptaka lineages of vinaya, from(2000), Six Kinds of Loneliness,used in this turquoiseb quotedstill uncorrected proofs paper http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7dtLIXE5fUfeature=results_videoplaynext=1list=PL791ADAB1C3B2B940 Central theme of her teachings is shenpa -usual translation of the word shenpa is attachment-, which she interprets as anger, low self-esteem, or addiction in response to an insult by another person or be hooked,that sticky feeling almost like having scabies- shenpa is the itch and it's the urge to scratch: Somebody says a mean word to you and then something in you tightens — that's the shenpa. Then it starts to spiral into low self-esteem, or blaming them, or anger at them, denigrating yourself. And maybe if you have strong addictions, you just go right for your addiction to cover over the bad feeling that arose when that person said that mean word to you. This is a mean word that gets you, hooks you. Another mean word may not affect you but we're talking about where it touches that sore place — that's a shenpa. Someone criticizes you — they criticize your work, they criticize your appearance, they criticize your child — and, shenpa: almost co-arising. In late 2005, she published No Time to Lose, a commentary on Shantideva's Guide to the Bodhisattva's Way of Life. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3gVyHIQKxo --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: A little mindfulness practice, and some could find something more fulfilling to do with their lives than hold grudges and act them out on Fairfield Life. Mindfulness Meditation Could Combat Loneliness In Elderly: Study Loneliness among the elderly has been linked with a multitude of health problems -- including heart risks snip
[FairfieldLife] to whom it may concern
This is an apology to anyone whose feelings tender heart I may have hurt. I'm willing to do what I can to make amends. And I'm doing my best to develop so that I don't continue hurting people knowingly or unknowingly. sigh, FFL is quite the heart workout. Who would have thought?!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another reason FFLers should look into mindfulness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: To be without a reference point is the ultimate loneliness. It is also called enlightenment. Ani Pema Chodron Although I like Pema Chodron, I suspect that in this case her comment may have been taken out of context. There is a difference between a false reference point -- e.g., the belief that one knows the Truth -- and a useful reference point, which IMO involves merely living what life is, without any beliefs about its nature. Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. -- Voltaire Buddhist nun and teacher in the Shambhala Buddhist lineage,a fully ordained bhikSuNI in a combination of the Mulasarvastivadin and Dharmaguptaka lineages of vinaya, from(2000), Six Kinds of Loneliness,used in this turquoiseb quoted still uncorrected proofs paper [:D] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7dtLIXE5fUfeature=results_videoplaynext=1list=PL791ADAB1C3B2B940 Central theme of her teachings is shenpa -usual translation of the word shenpa is attachment-, which she interprets as anger, low self-esteem, or addiction in response to an insult by another person or be hooked, that sticky feeling almost like having scabies- shenpa is the itch and it's the urge to scratch: Somebody says a mean word to you and then something in you tightens that's the shenpa. Then it starts to spiral into low self-esteem, or blaming them, or anger at them, denigrating yourself. And maybe if you have strong addictions, you just go right for your addiction to cover over the bad feeling that arose when that person said that mean word to you. This is a mean word that gets you, hooks you. Another mean word may not affect you but we're talking about where it touches that sore place that's a shenpa. This part I agree with fully, especially the aspect of attachment. Without attachment, words are just words. With attachment, they become much more -- triggers for our samskaras and a lingering indulgence in our addiction to the emotions once triggered by those same words. Someone criticizes you they criticize your work, they criticize your appearance, they criticize your child and, shenpa: almost co-arising. I would assume that her larger teaching has to do with the fact that shenpa need *not* be co-arising. One can detect it early, and avoid the problem before it arises into a manifest form such as anger or acting out. I'm starting to see glimmers of this avoiding the shenpa in 3-1/2-year-old Maya. Words or actions that once would have resulted in acting out and a quick trip to the Timeout Corner now result only in a quiz- ical look, as she feels the reaction start to build in her the way it did before, followed by a smile, as she lets it go and decides to do something else instead, something that will allow her to keep playing. That's one of the reasons Fairfield Life is sometimes a shock to me. I see people -- people who have been meditating for thirty to forty-plus years -- still as reactive to certain words and certain criticisms and certain actions as they probably were before they started meditating. Use one of those words, and they are lost in a shenpa-spiral that repeats itself over and over and over, as if they had no choice in the matter. Three-and-a-half-year-old Maya already knows that she has a choice in such matters, but these highly evolved meditators do not. Go figure. It makes me wonder what society would be like if the practice of mindfulness were introduced at an earlier age. What if, instead of being raised to believe that our emotions are us and that we are at their mercy and just have to endure them until they pass on their own, we were raised with the knowledge that emotions are just costumes. A trigger word is uttered, and past history and past samskaras urge us to put on our angry face costume or our sad face costume or our righteous indignation costume or our gotta GET the person who said that word costume. But we DON'T have to put it on. We DON'T have to go down that dark shenpa-alley again. We could do something else. Thanks for another insightful post, Meru. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: A little mindfulness practice, and some could find something more fulfilling to do with their lives than hold grudges and act them out on Fairfield Life. Mindfulness Meditation Could Combat Loneliness In Elderly: Study Loneliness among the elderly has been linked with a multitude of health problems -- including heart risks snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another reason FFLers should look into mindfulness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote: To be without a reference point is the ultimate loneliness. It is also called enlightenment. Ani Pema Chodron Although I like Pema Chodron, I suspect that in this case her comment may have been taken out of context. There is a difference between a false reference point -- e.g., the belief that one knows the Truth -- and a useful reference point, which IMO involves merely living what life is, without any beliefs about its nature. Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. -- Voltaire Buddhist nun and teacher in the Shambhala Buddhist lineage,a fully ordained bhikSuNI in a combination of the Mulasarvastivadin and Dharmaguptaka lineages of vinaya, from(2000), Six Kinds of Loneliness,used in this turquoiseb quoted still uncorrected proofs paper [:D] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7dtLIXE5fUfeature=results_videoplaynext=1list=PL791ADAB1C3B2B940 What a nice discourse. 'Opening the door to Invincibility'. She's talking about TM and She's a Buddhist? -Buck in FF Central theme of her teachings is shenpa -usual translation of the word shenpa is attachment-, which she interprets as anger, low self-esteem, or addiction in response to an insult by another person or be hooked, that sticky feeling almost like having scabies- shenpa is the itch and it's the urge to scratch: Somebody says a mean word to you and then something in you tightens that's the shenpa. Then it starts to spiral into low self-esteem, or blaming them, or anger at them, denigrating yourself. And maybe if you have strong addictions, you just go right for your addiction to cover over the bad feeling that arose when that person said that mean word to you. This is a mean word that gets you, hooks you. Another mean word may not affect you but we're talking about where it touches that sore place that's a shenpa. This part I agree with fully, especially the aspect of attachment. Without attachment, words are just words. With attachment, they become much more -- triggers for our samskaras and a lingering indulgence in our addiction to the emotions once triggered by those same words. Someone criticizes you they criticize your work, they criticize your appearance, they criticize your child and, shenpa: almost co-arising. I would assume that her larger teaching has to do with the fact that shenpa need *not* be co-arising. One can detect it early, and avoid the problem before it arises into a manifest form such as anger or acting out. I'm starting to see glimmers of this avoiding the shenpa in 3-1/2-year-old Maya. Words or actions that once would have resulted in acting out and a quick trip to the Timeout Corner now result only in a quiz- ical look, as she feels the reaction start to build in her the way it did before, followed by a smile, as she lets it go and decides to do something else instead, something that will allow her to keep playing. That's one of the reasons Fairfield Life is sometimes a shock to me. I see people -- people who have been meditating for thirty to forty-plus years -- still as reactive to certain words and certain criticisms and certain actions as they probably were before they started meditating. Use one of those words, and they are lost in a shenpa-spiral that repeats itself over and over and over, as if they had no choice in the matter. Three-and-a-half-year-old Maya already knows that she has a choice in such matters, but these highly evolved meditators do not. Go figure. It makes me wonder what society would be like if the practice of mindfulness were introduced at an earlier age. What if, instead of being raised to believe that our emotions are us and that we are at their mercy and just have to endure them until they pass on their own, we were raised with the knowledge that emotions are just costumes. A trigger word is uttered, and past history and past samskaras urge us to put on our angry face costume or our sad face costume or our righteous indignation costume or our gotta GET the person who said that word costume. But we DON'T have to put it on. We DON'T have to go down that dark shenpa-alley again. We could do something else. Thanks for another insightful post, Meru. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: A little mindfulness practice, and some could find something more fulfilling to do with their lives than hold grudges and act them out on Fairfield Life. Mindfulness Meditation Could Combat Loneliness In Elderly: Study Loneliness among the elderly has been linked with a multitude of health problems -- including heart risks snip
[FairfieldLife] Cool loneliness: Six Kinds of Loneliness By Ani Pema Choedroen
For all our beloved cool FFL er and/or all who search for coolness [:D] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjesjbEQpqM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjesjbEQpqM Six Kinds of Loneliness By Pema Choedroen To be without a reference point is the ultimate loneliness. It is also called enlightenment. In the middle way, there is no reference point. The mind with no reference point does not resolve itself, does not fixate or grasp. How could we possibly have no reference point? To have no reference point would be to change a deep-seated habitual response to the world: wanting to make it work out one way or the other. If I can't go left or right, I will die! When we don't go left or right, we feel like we are in a detox center. We're alone, cold turkey with all the edginess that we've been trying to avoid by going left or right. That edginess can feel pretty heavy. However, years and years of going to the left or right, going to yes or no, going to right or wrong has never really changed anything. Scrambling for security has never brought anything but momentary joy. It's like changing the position of our legs in meditation. Our legs hurt from sitting cross-legged, so we move them. And then we feel, Phew! What a relief! But two and a half minutes later, we want to move them again. We keep moving around seeking pleasure, seeking comfort, and the satisfaction that we get is very short-lived. We hear a lot about the pain of samsara, and we also hear about liberation. But we don't hear much about how painful it is to go from being completely stuck to becoming unstuck. The process of becoming unstuck requires tremendous bravery, because basically we are completely changing our way of perceiving reality, like changing our DNA. We are undoing a pattern that is not just our pattern. It's the human pattern: we project onto the world a zillion possibilities of attaining resolution. We can have whiter teeth, a weed-free lawn, a strife-free life, a world without embarrassment. We can live happily every after. This pattern keeps us dissatisfied and causes us a lot of suffering. As human beings, not only do we seek resolution, but we also feel that we deserve resolution. However, not only do we not deserve resolution, we suffer from resolution. We don't deserve resolution; we deserve something better than that. We deserve our birthright, which is the middle way, an open state of mind that can relax with paradox and ambiguity. To the degree that we've been avoiding uncertainty, we're naturally going to have withdrawal symptomswithdrawal from always thinking that there's a problem and that someone, somewhere, needs to fix it. The middle way is wide open, but it's tough going, because it goes against the grain of an ancient neurotic pattern that we all share. When we feel lonely, when we feel hopeless, what we want to do is move to the right or the left. We don't want to sit and feel what we feel. We don't want to go through the detox. Yet the middle way encourages us to do just that. It encourages us to awaken the bravery that exists in everyone without exception, including you and me. Meditation provides a way for us to train in the middle wayin staying right on the spot. We are encouraged not to judge whatever arises in our mind. In fact, we are encouraged not to even grasp whatever arises in our mind. What we usually call good or bad we simply acknowledge as thinking, without all the usual drama that goes along with right and wrong. We are instructed to let the thoughts come and go as if touching a bubble with a feather. This straightforward discipline prepares us to stop struggling and discover a fresh, unbiased state of being. The experience of certain feelings can seem particularly pregnant with desire for resolution: loneliness, boredom, anxiety. Unless we can relax with these feelings, it's very hard to stay in the middle when we experience them. We want victory or defeat, praise or blame. For example, if somebody abandons us, we don't want to be with that raw discomfort. Instead, we conjure up a familiar identity of ourselves as a hapless victim. Or maybe we avoid the rawness by acting out and righteously telling the person how messed up he or she is. We automatically want to cover over the pain in one way or another, identifying with victory or victimhood. Usually we regard loneliness as an enemy. Heartache is not something we choose to invite in. It's restless and pregnant and hot with the desire to escape and find something or someone to keep us company. When we can rest in the middle, we begin to have a nonthreatening relationship with loneliness, a relaxing and cooling loneliness that completely turns our usual fearful patterns upside down. There are six ways of describing this kind of cool loneliness. They are: less desire, contentment, avoiding unnecessary activity, complete discipline, not wandering in the world of desire, and not seeking security from one's discursive thoughts. Less desire is the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another reason FFLers should look into mindfulness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7dtLIXE5fUfeature=results_videoplaynext=1list=PL791ADAB1C3B2B940 What a nice discourse. 'Opening the door to Invincibility'. She's talking about TM and She's a Buddhist? -Buck in FF I'd hope they invite her to the Dome sometime.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool loneliness: Six Kinds of Loneliness By Ani Pema Choedroen
Very nice. And thanks for that input this morning. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: For all our beloved cool FFL er and/or all who search for coolness [:D] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjesjbEQpqM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjesjbEQpqM Six Kinds of Loneliness By Pema Choedroen To be without a reference point is the ultimate loneliness. It is also called enlightenment. In the middle way, there is no reference point. The mind with no reference point does not resolve itself, does not fixate or grasp. How could we possibly have no reference point? To have no reference point would be to change a deep-seated habitual response to the world: wanting to make it work out one way or the other. If I can't go left or right, I will die! When we don't go left or right, we feel like we are in a detox center. We're alone, cold turkey with all the edginess that we've been trying to avoid by going left or right. That edginess can feel pretty heavy. However, years and years of going to the left or right, going to yes or no, going to right or wrong has never really changed anything. Scrambling for security has never brought anything but momentary joy. It's like changing the position of our legs in meditation. Our legs hurt from sitting cross-legged, so we move them. And then we feel, Phew! What a relief! But two and a half minutes later, we want to move them again. We keep moving around seeking pleasure, seeking comfort, and the satisfaction that we get is very short-lived. We hear a lot about the pain of samsara, and we also hear about liberation. But we don't hear much about how painful it is to go from being completely stuck to becoming unstuck. The process of becoming unstuck requires tremendous bravery, because basically we are completely changing our way of perceiving reality, like changing our DNA. We are undoing a pattern that is not just our pattern. It's the human pattern: we project onto the world a zillion possibilities of attaining resolution. We can have whiter teeth, a weed-free lawn, a strife-free life, a world without embarrassment. We can live happily every after. This pattern keeps us dissatisfied and causes us a lot of suffering. As human beings, not only do we seek resolution, but we also feel that we deserve resolution. However, not only do we not deserve resolution, we suffer from resolution. We don't deserve resolution; we deserve something better than that. We deserve our birthright, which is the middle way, an open state of mind that can relax with paradox and ambiguity. To the degree that we've been avoiding uncertainty, we're naturally going to have withdrawal symptomswithdrawal from always thinking that there's a problem and that someone, somewhere, needs to fix it. The middle way is wide open, but it's tough going, because it goes against the grain of an ancient neurotic pattern that we all share. When we feel lonely, when we feel hopeless, what we want to do is move to the right or the left. We don't want to sit and feel what we feel. We don't want to go through the detox. Yet the middle way encourages us to do just that. It encourages us to awaken the bravery that exists in everyone without exception, including you and me. Meditation provides a way for us to train in the middle wayin staying right on the spot. We are encouraged not to judge whatever arises in our mind. In fact, we are encouraged not to even grasp whatever arises in our mind. What we usually call good or bad we simply acknowledge as thinking, without all the usual drama that goes along with right and wrong. We are instructed to let the thoughts come and go as if touching a bubble with a feather. This straightforward discipline prepares us to stop struggling and discover a fresh, unbiased state of being. The experience of certain feelings can seem particularly pregnant with desire for resolution: loneliness, boredom, anxiety. Unless we can relax with these feelings, it's very hard to stay in the middle when we experience them. We want victory or defeat, praise or blame. For example, if somebody abandons us, we don't want to be with that raw discomfort. Instead, we conjure up a familiar identity of ourselves as a hapless victim. Or maybe we avoid the rawness by acting out and righteously telling the person how messed up he or she is. We automatically want to cover over the pain in one way or another, identifying with victory or victimhood. Usually we regard loneliness as an enemy. Heartache is not something we choose to invite in. It's restless and pregnant and hot with the desire to escape and find something or someone to keep us company. When we can rest in the middle, we begin to have a nonthreatening relationship with loneliness, a relaxing and cooling loneliness that completely turns our usual fearful patterns upside down. There are six ways of describing this kind of cool
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: please please please cannot such communication be delivered directly and privately rather than publically tender hearts etc Dear Heart, Turqb started all this trying to splash some pornographic titillation across these pages, again. He has a history of doing that. Should the pages of FFL be thus polluted? Nay. Of course not and there were the larger and cleansing spiritual lessons needed to be drawn quickly exactly to spare the tender heart here. If anything, Turqb should repent and our moderators do a quicker job of moderating what people say here in the future. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom, keep a quick eye open. -Buck From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel  Oh mon amour, ton grain de voix fait mon bonheur a chaque pas laisse-moi te dessiner dans un desert Le desert de mon coeur http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlkjIg13kWM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCdqsITlcvkfeature=related We are passing away, To that great judgment day. And answer in that day For ev'ry vain and idle thought And ev'ry word I say? Yes ev'ry secret of my heart Shall shortly be made known; And I receive my just dessert For all that I have done. How careful, then, ought I to be; With what religious fear, Who such a strict account must give For my behavior here. What have you done now? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEgXDhiayz4Pleiadian High Council --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Well, given this lovely prose and the message from our Pleiadian brethren, I am more and more convinced that looking for a job is, in fact, *not* the next indicated step for me. àFrom: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel àYoung people all, attention give And hear what I shall say; I wish your souls in the Unified Field to live In everylasting day. Remember you are hast'ning on To death's dark gloomy shade; Your joys on earth will soon be gone, Your flesh in dust be laid.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
Judy would know what this term refers to: It is the fact that she followed Barry here, after he had left AMT for good, trying to find a more consensual discussion environment... authfriend: After he had left AMT for good--no, he stuck around AMT for some time after he started posting here and several alt.m.t participants, including me, had come over... So, Barry came over from AMT and then cross-posted from FFL back to AMT with a quote from Judy that she posted on FFL, AFTER Alex, Willytex, Vaj, Judy, Steve, BillyG, Eric, Lawson, and John had come over to FFL. LoL! Barry and I have been on at least two other TM-related forums: a Yahoo group called TM News; another now-defunct Yahoo group called TM Controversy (I'm not absolutely positive he was on this one); and John Knapp's TM-Free blog. In all three (or two) cases, Barry followed *me* to these groups (and not at my invitation, either). So, it's all about Barry and Judy for seventeen years, all over Google Groups and Yahoo! Groups. It looks like we've got a case of serial-posters. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool loneliness: Six Kinds of Loneliness By Ani Pema Choedroen
Thanks for finding and posting this, Meru. I'm having a problem with Flash and its plugins to Chrome and Firefox recently, and can't successfully view videos on YouTube without my machine crashing. It's frustrating, because it means that until I find a patch or a fix, I can't really watch any of the cool links provided by people here. Oh well...my middle way approach to it is to try not to mind. :-) This is a great talk/piece of writing by Pema. One of her traits that I've come to like is her tendency to avoid spiritual buzzwords. In this talk, out of 2116 words, only one would be unfamiliar to yer general person on the street, samsara. Whatever his faults, Rama - Fred Lenz had that trait as well; he always felt that peppering one's talks with buzzwords was a way of rejecting readers or listeners, as opposed to including them. She obviously feels the same way. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: For all our beloved cool FFL er and/or all who search for coolness [:D] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjesjbEQpqM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjesjbEQpqM Six Kinds of Loneliness By Pema Choedroen To be without a reference point is the ultimate loneliness. It is also called enlightenment. In the middle way, there is no reference point. The mind with no reference point does not resolve itself, does not fixate or grasp. How could we possibly have no reference point? To have no reference point would be to change a deep-seated habitual response to the world: wanting to make it work out one way or the other. If I can't go left or right, I will die! When we don't go left or right, we feel like we are in a detox center. We're alone, cold turkey with all the edginess that we've been trying to avoid by going left or right. That edginess can feel pretty heavy. However, years and years of going to the left or right, going to yes or no, going to right or wrong has never really changed anything. Scrambling for security has never brought anything but momentary joy. It's like changing the position of our legs in meditation. Our legs hurt from sitting cross-legged, so we move them. And then we feel, Phew! What a relief! But two and a half minutes later, we want to move them again. We keep moving around seeking pleasure, seeking comfort, and the satisfaction that we get is very short-lived. We hear a lot about the pain of samsara, and we also hear about liberation. But we don't hear much about how painful it is to go from being completely stuck to becoming unstuck. The process of becoming unstuck requires tremendous bravery, because basically we are completely changing our way of perceiving reality, like changing our DNA. We are undoing a pattern that is not just our pattern. It's the human pattern: we project onto the world a zillion possibilities of attaining resolution. We can have whiter teeth, a weed-free lawn, a strife-free life, a world without embarrassment. We can live happily every after. This pattern keeps us dissatisfied and causes us a lot of suffering. As human beings, not only do we seek resolution, but we also feel that we deserve resolution. However, not only do we not deserve resolution, we suffer from resolution. We don't deserve resolution; we deserve something better than that. We deserve our birthright, which is the middle way, an open state of mind that can relax with paradox and ambiguity. To the degree that we've been avoiding uncertainty, we're naturally going to have withdrawal symptomswithdrawal from always thinking that there's a problem and that someone, somewhere, needs to fix it. The middle way is wide open, but it's tough going, because it goes against the grain of an ancient neurotic pattern that we all share. When we feel lonely, when we feel hopeless, what we want to do is move to the right or the left. We don't want to sit and feel what we feel. We don't want to go through the detox. Yet the middle way encourages us to do just that. It encourages us to awaken the bravery that exists in everyone without exception, including you and me. Meditation provides a way for us to train in the middle wayin staying right on the spot. We are encouraged not to judge whatever arises in our mind. In fact, we are encouraged not to even grasp whatever arises in our mind. What we usually call good or bad we simply acknowledge as thinking, without all the usual drama that goes along with right and wrong. We are instructed to let the thoughts come and go as if touching a bubble with a feather. This straightforward discipline prepares us to stop struggling and discover a fresh, unbiased state of being. The experience of certain feelings can seem particularly pregnant with desire for resolution: loneliness, boredom, anxiety. Unless we can relax with these feelings, it's very hard to stay in the middle when we experience them. We want victory or defeat, praise or blame. For example, if somebody abandons us,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt the warmonger Romney is in favor of starting WWIII
Bhairitu: Keep this nutcase away from the WH! The question is, can he run on his record in 2012, and the answer is no, because it's abysmal. He took a trillion dollars and where it went, nobody knows. He dismantled healthcare, he weakened America around the world, he sold out the State of Israel. All he's got to run on is being a Democrat and indicting the other fellow... http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/06/14/mamet-on-obama/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Pussy Riot
The women from the band 'Pussy Riot' face up to seven years in prison for an unsanctioned performance in February in which they entered Moscow's Christ the Saviour Cathedral, ascended the altar and called on the Virgin Mary to throw Putin out! Reuters: http://tinyurl.com/bnopfwf http://tinyurl.com/bnopfwf http://freepussyriot.org/
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: please please please cannot such communication be delivered directly and privately rather than publically tender hearts etc Dear Heart, Turqb started all this trying to splash some pornographic titillation across these pages, again. Turqb started this thread by alerting people to what looked as if it would be an interesting HBO documentary, on former supermodels now aged between 50 and 81, and how they perceive their lives as changing as they grew older in a world and an industry obsessed with youth. In that original post, I tried to include a photograph of some of the women the documentary was about. That link failed, for reasons I do not under- stand. Since it did, and since Buck seems to be under the impression that it was somehow pornographic, I try again: Is this the image you consider pornographic, Buck. Or is it an image you hold in your mind when you hear the word supermodel? Or even, perhaps, when you hear the word woman? He has a history of doing that. Should the pages of FFL be thus polluted? Nay. Of course not and there were the larger and cleansing spiritual lessons needed to be drawn quickly exactly to spare the tender heart here. If anything, Turqb should repent and our moderators do a quicker job of moderating what people say here in the future. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom, keep a quick eye open. -Buck Above you make yet another plea for Fundamentalist Fascism as the standard for how FFL should be run. One wonders whether the FF Brigade you have in mind would consider this photo pornographic. After all, it's got a bit of a TM connection, being a photo of David Lynch's former wife Isabella Rossellini, now aged 60, also featured in this documentary: Not pornographic enough for you? Perhaps this photo of Carmen Dell'Orefice, now 81, will titillate your libido and cause a rise in your dhoti: Please follow up by letting us know exactly which of these images you felt most polluted you. But wait. Maybe it wasn't anything I posted to this thread that you considered pornographic. Maybe the porn was provided by the person who posted utter nonsense about Pleiadians to it, or by the people who actually take that stuff seriously. Here's the image I would have posted to convey my reaction to that, and to such persons: [https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/484480_27278775615\ 6188_1598383101_n.jpg] :-) From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel Oh mon amour, ton grain de voix fait mon bonheur a chaque pas laisse-moi te dessiner dans un desert Le desert de mon coeur http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlkjIg13kWM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCdqsITlcvkfeature=related We are passing away, To that great judgment day. And answer in that day For ev'ry vain and idle thought And ev'ry word I say? Yes ev'ry secret of my heart Shall shortly be made known; And I receive my just dessert For all that I have done. How careful, then, ought I to be; With what religious fear, Who such a strict account must give For my behavior here. What have you done now? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEgXDhiayz4Pleiadian High Council --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Well, given this lovely prose and the message from our Pleiadian brethren, I am more and more convinced that looking for a job is, in fact, *not* the next indicated step for me. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel Young people all, attention give And hear what I shall say; I wish your souls in the Unified Field to live In everylasting day. Remember you are hast'ning on To death's dark gloomy shade; Your joys on earth will soon be gone, Your flesh in dust be laid.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
dear Buck in Dome, Those house boats didn't look pornographic to me (-: Just to clarify, in my plea for carefulness I was not referring to Turq's pornographic offering. Which anyway I seem to have missed somehow. And I actually like that the moderators don't moderate such here. Nonetheless definitely spiritual lessons being learned. Even without pornography! Wish could be more comfy. Unfathomable karma yada yada. Share in other Dome From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 8:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: please please please cannot such communication be delivered directly and privately rather than publically tender hearts etc Dear Heart, Turqb started all this trying to splash some pornographic titillation across these pages, again. He has a history of doing that. Should the pages of FFL be thus polluted? Nay. Of course not and there were the larger and cleansing spiritual lessons needed to be drawn quickly exactly to spare the tender heart here. If anything, Turqb should repent and our moderators do a quicker job of moderating what people say here in the future. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom, keep a quick eye open. -Buck From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel  Oh mon amour, ton grain de voix fait mon bonheur a chaque pas laisse-moi te dessiner dans un desert Le desert de mon coeur http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlkjIg13kWM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCdqsITlcvkfeature=related We are passing away, To that great judgment day. And answer in that day For ev'ry vain and idle thought And ev'ry word I say? Yes ev'ry secret of my heart Shall shortly be made known; And I receive my just dessert For all that I have done. How careful, then, ought I to be; With what religious fear, Who such a strict account must give For my behavior here. What have you done now? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEgXDhiayz4Pleiadian High Council --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Well, given this lovely prose and the message from our Pleiadian brethren, I am more and more convinced that looking for a job is, in fact, *not* the next indicated step for me.  From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel  Young people all, attention give And hear what I shall say; I wish your souls in the Unified Field to live In everylasting day. Remember you are hast'ning on To death's dark gloomy shade; Your joys on earth will soon be gone, Your flesh in dust be laid.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool loneliness: Six Kinds of Loneliness By Ani Pema Choedroen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Thanks for finding and posting this, Meru. I'm having a problem with Flash and its plugins to Chrome and Firefox recently, and can't successfully view videos on YouTube without my machine crashing. It's frustrating, because it means that until I find a patch or a fix, I can't really watch any of the cool links provided by people here. Oh well...my middle way approach to it is to try not to mind. :-) Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the software? I just found out I could not watch a youtube Flash video on Firefox, but was able to on Chrome. I have a lot of script and ad blocking software on Firefox. When I shut down the blocking software completely, I was then able to run Flash videos on Firefox. HTML5 videos are also sometimes served up as alternates to Flash. Adobe also tries to install update software on machines which can cut in at unexpected times.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool loneliness: Six Kinds of Loneliness By Ani Pema Choedroen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Thanks for finding and posting this, Meru. I'm having a problem with Flash and its plugins to Chrome and Firefox recently, and can't successfully view videos on YouTube without my machine crashing. It's frustrating, because it means that until I find a patch or a fix, I can't really watch any of the cool links provided by people here. Oh well...my middle way approach to it is to try not to mind. :-) Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the software? I just found out I could not watch a youtube Flash video on Firefox, but was able to on Chrome. The crashes happen for me in both Firefox and Chrome, alas. I have a lot of script and ad blocking software on Firefox. When I shut down the blocking software completely, I was then able to run Flash videos on Firefox. I have come across this idea on the Net as I researched the problem, and am hoping that it *isn't* an incompatibility between Flash and Ad-Blocker. I would sooner do without watching videos on YouTube than do without Ad-Blocker. :-) HTML5 videos are also sometimes served up as alternates to Flash. Adobe also tries to install update software on machines which can cut in at unexpected times. Adobe is well known in the business for putting out some of the buggiest and crappiest releases in software history, and for not giving a damn when this is pointed out to them. That's one of the reasons I can almost understand Apple not providing support for Flash in its phones and iPads; they don't want to be put in the position of continually dealing with complaints from users about bugs that are caused by Flash.
[FairfieldLife] David Lynch Foundation: Changing Lives With Meditation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gM_sXiUPvofeature=plcp
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Turqb started all this trying to splash some pornographic titillation across these pages, again. He has a history of doing that. Should the pages of FFL be thus polluted? Nay. Of course not and there were the larger and cleansing spiritual lessons needed to be drawn quickly exactly to spare the tender heart here. If anything, Turqb should repent and our moderators do a quicker job of moderating what people say here in the future. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom, keep a quick eye open. Speaking of the moderators, and cleansing, I should point out that Buck just thought nothing of labeling (falsely) one of the people posting here as a pornographer. For those who know my posting ID here, or short- hand forms of it used on this forum, my name will now come up forever in Google searches, associated with posting pornography. If anyone needs to be chastised or banned, it's Buck.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ramblings around Leiden
Dear Emily, I had it all planned to say that in addition to cool loneliness or warm loneliness and cool togetherness, it takes a village. And not just an online one as enlightening as it is (-: But I see you have a village, the trees which I also love, the ocean which I also love and miss. You have tears of gratitude for this crazy old world. You have your kids and your dog and maybe your extended family is nearby. I don't know a lot about your circumstances so apologies in advance if I say something not useful. Who am I to disagree with Pema Chodron on cool loneliness? And actually I don't. (Thank you, meru d, that post was helpful.) OTOH, I can't help but remember that my favorite tantric teacher David Deida says that going it alone is the masculine way. It is not the best way for the feminine. And yes, I realize Pema is a woman, very enlightened, etc. I'm just saying that perhaps so many of the spiritual traditions were designed by men for men. Anyway, Deida believes that the better way for women is in community. I think it's very important for us women not to get down on ourselves because we prefer warm community to cool loneliness. Hmmm, bet it doesn't have to be either or, bet can have both. Chubadunga! So we're back to it takes a village. It takes a village not only to raise a child but also to heal the inner child of so called adults. This is partially why I suggested you move to FF. I'm sure there are other wonderful villages but this is the one I know about. And of course it's not perfect, but it is wonderful anyway. And inexpensive. I'm earth rat so tend to be very practical. Thank you so much for Prairie Home which I did read tho not at the moment when you asked if I was reading (-: Because I tend to wake up early no matter when I go to bed, I tend to go to bed early ish. Yeah, it made me laugh wonderfully, thank you so much for that. As for cruises, if I'm near the water, I prefer to be in the water not on it. Tho best friend raves about food on cruises. Actually I know of one very cool hypnotherapist in FF who believes that attending to the next step is very enlightened. There you are! As to what caused the change in your life? Dare I suggest, maybe you went into a new dasha period? That's an idea from jyotish, astrology from India. Plus all of what you mentioned including peri menopause. Hey the bodily changes are real and can explain a lot about our emotions and moods, etc. Again, we women tend to get down on ourselves about emotions. As Pema says, compassion is paramount. Some indigenous people believe that when the earth's kundalini moved from northern hemisphere, China and Tibet, to the southern, Peru and New Zealand that it actually signaled a new emphasis on feminine ways of spirituality and living. My ex David reminds me that there tends to be a lot of introverts on forums. Maybe you're one too? Sometimes it's harder for us introverts to be in 3D community. Ok, hoping some of this is helpful and not too long. Share From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ramblings around Leiden Dearest Robin, RC, RC(C) (subscript or superscript - let us say that the C stands for compassionate shall we? Just add that to your many personas) You acknowledge me where I am, as I am, and you give me that gift. Yes, I took on life, but in a rebellious way and now I am forced to take a more gentle approach and I am pretty P.O'd when I'm not visiting the victim 'hood. The inner drive, the energy that sustained me, my ability to write and think for a living, my physical stamina - I depended on these things - they defined me (took them for granted in hindsight.) These things have faded in the last 1.5 years - my emotions took over, demanded attention, overwhelmed me. Ahhh, WTF? Is it the hormones, is it the family of origin issues, is it my karma, is it the collapsed adrenal system, is it unprocessed grief, is it negative entities taking over, is it the diet, is it lack of spiritual discipline, is it that I am inherently flawed? Self-forgiveness is the hardest thing I do, or don't do as the case may be. In my elementary understanding and reading of well-known verse...Jesus said, Father forgive them for they know not what they do. This helps me forgive others, but I give myself no such out. My new philosophy is pay attention to the next indicated step. It's all I can do..show up for drill...try to stay present. My memory fails mewhat is happening now? Oh yeah, I have a dog and the kids are still here. Alright then, off to a walk in the park and a visit to the counselor. Our new thing. (I'm a hard ass if you didn't know...my kids will tell you I lack compassion.) I said: Either you agree to family
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool loneliness: Six Kinds of Loneliness By Ani Pema Choedroen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Thanks for finding and posting this, Meru. I'm having a problem with Flash and its plugins to Chrome and Firefox recently, and can't successfully view videos on YouTube without my machine crashing. It's frustrating, because it means that until I find a patch or a fix, I can't really watch any of the cool links provided by people here. Oh well...my middle way approach to it is to try not to mind. :-) Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the software? I just found out I could not watch a youtube Flash video on Firefox, but was able to on Chrome. The crashes happen for me in both Firefox and Chrome, alas. I have a lot of script and ad blocking software on Firefox. When I shut down the blocking software completely, I was then able to run Flash videos on Firefox. I have come across this idea on the Net as I researched the problem, and am hoping that it *isn't* an incompatibility between Flash and Ad-Blocker. I would sooner do without watching videos on YouTube than do without Ad-Blocker. :-) HTML5 videos are also sometimes served up as alternates to Flash. Adobe also tries to install update software on machines which can cut in at unexpected times. http://www.youtube.com/html5 Adobe is well known in the business for putting out some of the buggiest and crappiest releases in software history, and for not giving a damn when this is pointed out to them. That's one of the reasons I can almost understand Apple not providing support for Flash in its phones and iPads; they don't want to be put in the position of continually dealing with complaints from users about bugs that are caused by Flash.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
Merudanda: In french - link to the song lyrics. Did you mean to post this by Emilie Simon - Desert? Very sweet. I do love sacred harp singers though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0lpa2_L99Mfeature=related From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 9:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel Oh mon amour, ton grain de voix fait mon bonheur a chaque pas laisse-moi te dessiner dans un desert Le desert de mon coeur http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlkjIg13kWM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCdqsITlcvkfeature=related We are passing away, To that great judgment day. And answer in that day For ev'ry vain and idle thought And ev'ry word I say? Yes ev'ry secret of my heart Shall shortly be made known; And I receive my just dessert For all that I have done. How careful, then, ought I to be; With what religious fear, Who such a strict account must give For my behavior here. What have you done now? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEgXDhiayz4Pleiadian High Council --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Well, given this lovely prose and the message from our Pleiadian brethren, I am more and more convinced that looking for a job is, in fact, *not* the next indicated step for me.  From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel  Young people all, attention give And hear what I shall say; I wish your souls in the Unified Field to live In everylasting day. Remember you are hast'ning on To death's dark gloomy shade; Your joys on earth will soon be gone, Your flesh in dust be laid.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Turqb started all this trying to splash some pornographic titillation across these pages, again. He has a history of doing that. Should the pages of FFL be thus polluted? Nay. Of course not and there were the larger and cleansing spiritual lessons needed to be drawn quickly exactly to spare the tender heart here. If anything, Turqb should repent and our moderators do a quicker job of moderating what people say here in the future. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom, keep a quick eye open. Speaking of the moderators, and cleansing, I should point out that Buck just thought nothing of labeling (falsely) one of the people posting here as a pornographer. For those who know my posting ID here, or short- hand forms of it used on this forum, my name will now come up forever in Google searches, associated with posting pornography. If anyone needs to be chastised or banned, it's Buck. Yes, the ramifications of your pushing and posting things like that in a forum like this are great indeed. There's a cautionary tale for everyone. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
The download 'limit' put on non-member readers evidently puts viewing FFL to seeing message 'summaries' in message mode only. First 150 characters become the most important of a post after the subject heading. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: It is probably a DOS attack from some demented asswipe who doesn't like FFL for some reason or another. Perhaps I should do a tantric ritual to make their fingers fall off. :-D Those are easy to do with with an open group. When I had a group I don't recall Yahoo providing any analytics and I suspect they still don't. If you moved the group to Google you might have those plus Google might punt any DOSers. Years ago I had a DOS attack on my Earthlink site. In that case I did have a log to refer too and Earthlink who could have charged me for overages didn't. They instead probably billed the college where the attack came from (it was over Christmas break) and the college probably booted the student. I've only seen the message once and that was last night checking my email at 8 PM and since I got no messages from FFL checked the web site and that banner was there. Apparently the quota roles over at midnight PDT. On 07/29/2012 04:33 AM, iranitea wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Buck, who do you believe it is that follows FFL so avidly and who we would be surprised do? *** Marek, there are more lurkers than you think, as there are also many inactive members, many just don't want to participate in fights or expose themselves to the public, so they don't post. But apart form that, FFL very frequently tops Google searches for very special search terms. Obviously people are not interested in the kind of quibbles some here have specialized in, but there are still interesting topics coming up, with some, I think quite sophisticated input. I have checked access to the group, when not being logged in, and access to other public Yahoo groups, I am not a member of, and it seemed there was no problem in the other groups, but one would have to test this a little more. That bots can play a role is obvious, as there are sometimes captchas coming along with Google searches, especially if there are a lot of searches coming from one IP. This is to filter out bots. Logging in would be one means by Yahoo to ensure it is not an automated request. Bot activity is obviously quite common and widespread in the internet, so it does not mean that it is necessarily directed against FFL in particular, OTOH it cannot be excluded, whoever says the opposite is lying. As we have a mirror site, it would be easy for lurkers to go just there, if they only knew, not so likely if they are coming from Google search. Maybe the mirror site should be mentioned in the intro text, of course one would have to ensure it is not against Yahoo policies. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Is there some reason people are interested in us? Not bloody likely. :-) Dear Mr.Turguoiseb, I would respectfully disagree with your (narrow) POV on this. I found the recent discussion of SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation versus the other brand meditation to be particularly well drawn out on both sides. It was very interesting. I would suspect that both interested parties, camps of SSRS-AOL'ers and MMY-TM'ers, were downloading the proceedings like crazy following through the discussion that discerned some very interesting spiritual nuance. It was very interesting indeed and certainly drove readership. There were some other subjects too during the period which evidently drove FFL downloads by non-member lurkers. This new 'exceeding download' error message seems to revolve around periods of content driven downloads. Unless these were denial of service downloads, we should expect now that Yahoo in its liquidation would sell FFL as an asset that actually drives content views. You'd be amazed who all the audience of this place is. Some writers would be embarrassed if they realized. -Buck
Re: [FairfieldLife] to whom it may concern
Dear Share: You are a gem of a human being. I'm not sure what inspired you to write this, but you seem the least likely to hurt anyone's tender feelings. Personally, mine are just me getting over myself. It had to happen sometime. No worries...FFL has the ability to absorb many perspectives, many emotions, many points of view. I used to undergo days long shame attacks for some of the things I posted - I work to get over myself - it's not really all about me. My posts never seemed to phase anyone else and often the exact right post would turn up to get me out of myself, my drama, etc. and give me a little perspective. Or, they would pass into oblivion where they belonged. As I say to myself...no need to personalize everything. Far to tiring an MO. All in a days work, so to speak. So, I stopped taking myself quite so seriously and stopped worrying so much. Just scenes in a play really. FFL may seem like a tough place, but really, not so much. Child's play. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] to whom it may concern This is an apology to anyone whose feelings tender heart I may have hurt. I'm willing to do what I can to make amends. And I'm doing my best to develop so that I don't continue hurting people knowingly or unknowingly. sigh, FFL is quite the heart workout. Who would have thought?!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ramblings around Leiden
Hi Share: Thanks for this. Gotta roll and get back to all this great info that has crossed in the last 24 hours later. Pop had a small brain hemorrhage - forgave him on the spot for everything. That was easy. My heart is full today. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ramblings around Leiden Dear Emily, I had it all planned to say that in addition to cool loneliness or warm loneliness and cool togetherness, it takes a village. And not just an online one as enlightening as it is (-: But I see you have a village, the trees which I also love, the ocean which I also love and miss. You have tears of gratitude for this crazy old world. You have your kids and your dog and maybe your extended family is nearby. I don't know a lot about your circumstances so apologies in advance if I say something not useful. Who am I to disagree with Pema Chodron on cool loneliness? And actually I don't. (Thank you, meru d, that post was helpful.) OTOH, I can't help but remember that my favorite tantric teacher David Deida says that going it alone is the masculine way. It is not the best way for the feminine. And yes, I realize Pema is a woman, very enlightened, etc. I'm just saying that perhaps so many of the spiritual traditions were designed by men for men. Anyway, Deida believes that the better way for women is in community. I think it's very important for us women not to get down on ourselves because we prefer warm community to cool loneliness. Hmmm, bet it doesn't have to be either or, bet can have both. Chubadunga! So we're back to it takes a village. It takes a village not only to raise a child but also to heal the inner child of so called adults. This is partially why I suggested you move to FF. I'm sure there are other wonderful villages but this is the one I know about. And of course it's not perfect, but it is wonderful anyway. And inexpensive. I'm earth rat so tend to be very practical. Thank you so much for Prairie Home which I did read tho not at the moment when you asked if I was reading (-: Because I tend to wake up early no matter when I go to bed, I tend to go to bed early ish. Yeah, it made me laugh wonderfully, thank you so much for that. As for cruises, if I'm near the water, I prefer to be in the water not on it. Tho best friend raves about food on cruises. Actually I know of one very cool hypnotherapist in FF who believes that attending to the next step is very enlightened. There you are! As to what caused the change in your life? Dare I suggest, maybe you went into a new dasha period? That's an idea from jyotish, astrology from India. Plus all of what you mentioned including peri menopause. Hey the bodily changes are real and can explain a lot about our emotions and moods, etc. Again, we women tend to get down on ourselves about emotions. As Pema says, compassion is paramount. Some indigenous people believe that when the earth's kundalini moved from northern hemisphere, China and Tibet, to the southern, Peru and New Zealand that it actually signaled a new emphasis on feminine ways of spirituality and living. My ex David reminds me that there tends to be a lot of introverts on forums. Maybe you're one too? Sometimes it's harder for us introverts to be in 3D community. Ok, hoping some of this is helpful and not too long. Share From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ramblings around Leiden Dearest Robin, RC, RC(C) (subscript or superscript - let us say that the C stands for compassionate shall we? Just add that to your many personas) You acknowledge me where I am, as I am, and you give me that gift. Yes, I took on life, but in a rebellious way and now I am forced to take a more gentle approach and I am pretty P.O'd when I'm not visiting the victim 'hood. The inner drive, the energy that sustained me, my ability to write and think for a living, my physical stamina - I depended on these things - they defined me (took them for granted in hindsight.) These things have faded in the last 1.5 years - my emotions took over, demanded attention, overwhelmed me. Ahhh, WTF? Is it the hormones, is it the family of origin issues, is it my karma, is it the collapsed adrenal system, is it unprocessed grief, is it negative entities taking over, is it the diet, is it lack of spiritual discipline, is it that I am inherently flawed? Self-forgiveness is the hardest thing I do, or don't do as the case may be. In my elementary understanding and reading of well-known verse...Jesus said, Father forgive them for they know not what they do. This helps me forgive
[FairfieldLife] For Buck...mending my ways and posting only photos of sattvic TMers
Laura Dern: Ellen DeGeneris (with Portia de Rossi): Sheryl Crow: Heather Graham: Naomi Watts:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool loneliness: Six Kinds of Loneliness By Ani Pema Choedroen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Thanks for finding and posting this, Meru. I'm having a problem with Flash and its plugins to Chrome and Firefox recently, and can't successfully view videos on YouTube without my machine crashing. It's frustrating, because it means that until I find a patch or a fix, I can't really watch any of the cool links provided by people here. Oh well...my middle way approach to it is to try not to mind. :-) Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the software? I just found out I could not watch a youtube Flash video on Firefox, but was able to on Chrome. The crashes happen for me in both Firefox and Chrome, alas. I have a lot of script and ad blocking software on Firefox. When I shut down the blocking software completely, I was then able to run Flash videos on Firefox. I have come across this idea on the Net as I researched the problem, and am hoping that it *isn't* an incompatibility between Flash and Ad-Blocker. I would sooner do without watching videos on YouTube than do without Ad-Blocker. :-) HTML5 videos are also sometimes served up as alternates to Flash. Adobe also tries to install update software on machines which can cut in at unexpected times. Adobe is well known in the business for putting out some of the buggiest and crappiest releases in software history, and for not giving a damn when this is pointed out to them. That's one of the reasons I can almost understand Apple not providing support for Flash in its phones and iPads; they don't want to be put in the position of continually dealing with complaints from users about bugs that are caused by Flash. On Firefox I have Ad Block Plus, NoScript, and Better Privacy. Sometimes sites (like bank sites) do not work with this software installed even if those web pages have been cleared to be let through. I am not sure why this is. With such sites I have not had the inclination to uninstall the privacy plug-ins and add-ons to see if they work when it has been removed, I just temporarily use another browser, and clear all data from it afterward. It is amazing that some web pages are wired with scripting to connect one to as many as a dozen or more sites simultaneously, and if you disable the connexion to just one, sometimes the page won't function.
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Buck...mending my ways and posting only photos of sattvic TMers
On 07/30/2012 09:38 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Laura Dern: Ellen DeGeneris (with Portia de Rossi): Sheryl Crow: Heather Graham: Naomi Watts: And those who would like to see more of Heather Graham can do so in the P.T. Anderson movie Boogie Nights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLgDiBoKyqA Anderson has a new film coming out shortly called The Master and purportedly based on L Ron Hubbard. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/the-master-release-date-paul-thomas-anderson-scientology_n_1711735.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
Share3 who will be going to writing group this afternoon, then Release session with partner in Sydney, then Dome. So not at computer again til this evening. From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 3:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: snip Share2: Well it's ok RC but you do seem to contradict yourself in some subtle way. I can't speak to a Unity experience, but I can address the internal logic or absence thereof. You say it was not a personal desire. Then you say you forced Maharishi to commit himself. This sounds personal. Robin3:Personal coercion is just concentrated universal coercion. My dear Share: Pray, tell me what act that you have ever seen performed by a human being was not 'personal'? Tell me one. The sense I had was that the cosmic intelligence that was computing my actions was inexorably driving this show-down with Maharishi, and the personal Robin was just a witness to this drama. The cosmic intelligence in me was forcing the cosmic intelligence in Maharishi to commit himself. This sounds personal. Well *that* certainly--your comment--sounds personal. Because it *is* personal. But you see, Share, the intelligences behind making me enlightened--and, I would contend, making Maharishi enlightened--*these intelligences are very personal*. There is no impersonal intelligence or reality in the universe. *Everything is infinitely personal*--from where I see it. So, in a sense, your intuition was correct; the intelligences behind Maharishis Unity Consciousness were doing one thing, whereas the intelligences behind Robin's Unity Consciousness were doing another thing--*even though these were the same intelligences*! But there is one thing we are leaving out here: The creator of all these intelligences, even the mischievous ones that make persons enlightened--or think they are enlightened. That being too (being very personal) has his reasons—but then, as Paul said: Who has ever known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him? I only say, Share, that my actions vis-a-vis Maharish--at all times--were subject to and subjugated by my Unity Consciousness--and this was always experienced to be, ultimately at least, under the aegis of cosmic intelligence. I would say things, do things, that I would never dream of doing before I was enlightened--I literally had no control even over my body: if cosmic intelligence wanted me to stand up, I would find myself standing up. If I was supposed to speak, I would speak—and the words that came out of my mouth were not experienced to have been thought out first by myself—and how many times I was shocked by what I said! Share3: Ghazali! Again with contradicting yourself! Either those energies are always personal. Or it is the witness who is personal and what it is witnessing is not! Anyway, if it is personal, even infinitely personal, then can the person really have no control? snip Share2: That part about my ambition to make people act in life supporting ways made me laugh at first. Then I asked if it could be true. Oy! Yes, when I feel vulnerable, as I do right now, I wish I could make or inspire certain people to act in certain ways. Robin3: Nothing to say here to this, Share. I think your statement/confession: Oy! Yes, when I feel vulnerable, as I do right now, I wish I could make or inspire certain people to act in certain ways a perfect testimony to the realness of the truth of how you live out your life. This very desire--to have persons be more loving or generous or positive--that itself is a spontaneous (or I have come to regard it as so) expression of the person that God created to be Share Long. IMO. It just--when I read it on the page (screen)--came out as something intrinsic to being Share Long. So I like it and thank God he made you this way. :-) Share3: My intention was not as lofty as you say but thank you. And am now wondering if you're projecting all of your goodness onto me. Yes, the golden shadow! snip Share2: I'm thinking of taking that high wire in my hands and making my way to the side in hand over hand fashion. And it is not the smash mouth football that will have mainly contributed to my retreat. You've already survived so much. I'm sure you'll do the same re my philosophy, whatever the heck that is (-: Robin3: I like what motivates your philosophy, Share--and you have already survived some heavy sidewinds without toppling over and plunging down into the swirling waters (did you see that guy walk across Niagara Falls?). I don't think you will fall--or if you do, you will be airborne. I don't know how you do it, but I am becoming convinced it is inside your DNA. If you can experience that reality, nature, or even your very biology is
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt the warmonger Romney is in favor of starting WWIII
I think the trillions of dollars went to the war in Iraq, which was a useless war, causing untold suffering... I would say the trillions of dollars went down the toilet with the financial mess left by the last Republican... I would say the President Obama strengthened the Health Care system, not weakened it... Romney is a mouthpiece for the Neo-cons, and the mouthpiece for people like Donald Trump and the Koch Bros... This is going to be a close election and if Romney wins...God Help Us! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: Bhairitu: Keep this nutcase away from the WH! The question is, can he run on his record in 2012, and the answer is no, because it's abysmal. He took a trillion dollars and where it went, nobody knows. He dismantled healthcare, he weakened America around the world, he sold out the State of Israel. All he's got to run on is being a Democrat and indicting the other fellow... http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/06/14/mamet-on-obama/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another reason FFLers should look into mindfulness
A study performed many years ago by Mindfulness advocate Ellen Langer, and TM advocate Charles Alexander, found that TM was superior on several measures, including longevity and health related, while Mindfulness was better on specific measures having to do with the kind of things that the practitioners had been taught to be mindful OF. Bensons's Relaxation Response and no-treatment were tied for last place on all measures. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: A little mindfulness practice, and some could find something more fulfilling to do with their lives than hold grudges and act them out on Fairfield Life. Mindfulness Meditation Could Combat Loneliness In Elderly: Study Loneliness among the elderly has been linked with a multitude of health problems -- including heart risks http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/18/health/mental-health/loneliness-isolation\ -health/index.html and even a higher risk of premature death http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/2012/07/02/hlsa0702.htm . But a small new study is shedding some light on a tool that could hep combat loneliness among this age demographic: Mindfulness meditation. The study, published in the journal Brain, Behavior Immunity http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889159112001894?v=s5\ , shows that eight weeks of training in mindfulness meditation is linked with decreased loneliness. The study included 40 participants between ages 55 and 85, some of whom participated in the Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction program. People who participated in the program were also asked to do meditation exercises at home for a half-hour every day, and to go to a meditation retreat for one day. Plus, the researchers from Carnegie Mellon University found that mindfulness meditation had positive effects on the study participants' health, too. Reductions in the expression of inflammation-related genes were particularly significant because inflammation contributes to a wide variety of the health threats including cancer, cardiovascular diseases and neurodegenerative diseases, study researcher Steven Cole, a professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, School of Medicine, said in a statement http://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2012/july/july24_meditationstu\ dy.html . Aside from alleviating loneliness, mindfulness meditation has also been shown in past research to have positive effects on the brain -- linked with brain changes that may even have effects against mental illness http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/15/mindfulness-meditation-brain-i\ ntegrative-body-mind-training_n_1594803.html , according to a recent Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences study.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: That infamous chord...
On 07/29/2012 01:25 PM, Vaj wrote: On Jul 29, 2012, at 3:57 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Probably a mistake but they liked the sound of it enough to leave it in. So you have all these music pundits trying to figure out what may well have been a mistake. Gee, haven't they even made such a mistake and though gee that actually sounds cool? I've certainly done that and in fact some of the jazzier tunes I have on YouTube have those in them and I haven't a clue what I did when I played them but they weren't the intended chord. Some jazz pianists will tell you they just put their hands down and whatever happens happens. Their hands unlike amateurs still have some intelligence to avoid things that sound like clinkers. It was planned. According to George Martin, We knew it would open both the film and the soundtrack LP, so we wanted a particularly strong and effective beginning. The strident guitar chord was the perfect launch,[10] It's not a very unusual suspended 7th chord. I think there were other rock tunes including some during late 50's that may have opened with chords like that. And of course suspended 7ths chords are very frequently used and very popular in folk tunes. Leave it to the mathematicians to deconstruct it. Perhaps they should have taken those piano lessons a little more seriously or asked their music major buddy about it. Any musician with an ear would have recognized the suspended 7th. From memory I thought it might be the popular major 9th without a 7th which Steely Dan used a lot and frequently used a lot these days in smooth jazz. But listening to the ogg recording of it was easily recognizable as suspended 7th chord but that the effects on the recording obscures it a bit. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Buck...mending my ways and posting only photos of sattvic TMers
Friends; we should think of the children here, the MSAE children who may be reading this site. These fellows who posts this stuff seem to have no filters what so ever. Right now the adult decision needs to be taken by our moderators to remove these guys for the spiritual safety of our children and the well-being of a larger community here. With the best of concern and regards for all, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 07/30/2012 09:38 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Laura Dern: Ellen DeGeneris (with Portia de Rossi): Sheryl Crow: Heather Graham: Naomi Watts: And those who would like to see more of Heather Graham can do so in the P.T. Anderson movie Boogie Nights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLgDiBoKyqA Anderson has a new film coming out shortly called The Master and purportedly based on L Ron Hubbard. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/the-master-release-date-paul-thomas-anderson-scientology_n_1711735.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment
Re: [FairfieldLife] Another reason FFLers should look into mindfulness
On 07/30/2012 01:15 AM, turquoiseb wrote: A little mindfulness practice, and some could find something more fulfilling to do with their lives than hold grudges and act them out on Fairfield Life. Mindfulness Meditation Could Combat Loneliness In Elderly: Study Loneliness among the elderly has been linked with a multitude of health problems -- including heart risks http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/18/health/mental-health/loneliness-isolation\ -health/index.html and even a higher risk of premature death http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/2012/07/02/hlsa0702.htm . But a small new study is shedding some light on a tool that could hep combat loneliness among this age demographic: Mindfulness meditation. The study, published in the journal Brain, Behavior Immunity http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889159112001894?v=s5\ , shows that eight weeks of training in mindfulness meditation is linked with decreased loneliness. The study included 40 participants between ages 55 and 85, some of whom participated in the Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction program. People who participated in the program were also asked to do meditation exercises at home for a half-hour every day, and to go to a meditation retreat for one day. Plus, the researchers from Carnegie Mellon University found that mindfulness meditation had positive effects on the study participants' health, too. Reductions in the expression of inflammation-related genes were particularly significant because inflammation contributes to a wide variety of the health threats including cancer, cardiovascular diseases and neurodegenerative diseases, study researcher Steven Cole, a professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, School of Medicine, said in a statement http://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2012/july/july24_meditationstu\ dy.html . Aside from alleviating loneliness, mindfulness meditation has also been shown in past research to have positive effects on the brain -- linked with brain changes that may even have effects against mental illness http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/15/mindfulness-meditation-brain-i\ ntegrative-body-mind-training_n_1594803.html , according to a recent Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences study. Heh! Right after I glanced at this I heard Gary Null citing the study on his radio show. He had started out talking about depression amongst the elderly and wound his way to mentioning the study. He suggested that just a morning walk would be a form of mindfulness meditation. However he might also say anyone practicing about any form of meditation should get relief from depression. But then if the depression is clinical it might take more than just mindfulness meditation or meditation in general. It can be nutritionally caused. Changing the diet and adding some supplementation may help. After all in ayurveda supposedly you become more vata as you get older though some folks may disagree as they seem to becoming more kapha. Of course that might be from over eating to calm vata. And situational depression may not be so easily solved by meditation either. Of course if one is more vata they're going to be more mentally aggravated by situational depression. And we have a lot of people in the world suffering situational depression these day which is a result of another form of depression: economic depression. It's interesting to note regarding ayurveda that the metabolic scientists say vata is an emotional state and not a body state. They claim that pitta correlates to the fast oxidizer and kapha to the slow oxidizer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Buck...mending my ways and posting only photos of sattvic TMers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Laura Dern: Ellen DeGeneris (with Portia de Rossi): Sheryl Crow: Heather Graham: whoa! Phantastic, uh... eyes! :] Naomi Watts:
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote Dear Iranitea, Robin1: Multiple Personality. I was diagnosed recently, and have been fighting it. Iranitea: Robin, don't fight it. Because which Robin would fight it, and would all the other Robins agree? Try to take them into the boat rather. Robin2: Are you by any chance making fun of me, iranitea? I have found, since I wrote this post, that there is a way of *using my freewill* to choose which Robin I want to beI have not left that to the Three Gunas. I can be any Robin I want to beany of the seven. What interests me most, though, iranitea, is which Robin *would* you like me to be in this moment? By the way, there is a Robin8that's the Robin that realizes that B's inadvertent irony is an irony more subtle even than my own. But when I'm *not* Robin8 I keep thinking: Hey, Emily is right, and B is just studiously ignoring her posts (critical of himpoor guy)but when I become Robin8 (not sure what consciousness that isbut it permits me to see right into the soul of B) I realize B is having us all on. He's pretty damn good, I'd say. A big kidder all the waybut with the meanest of purity of intention, I am sure. That's no mean intention B has, I mean. What's this about a boat? It's funny you would say that because once I had a dream where all seven (I had not had the privilege of knowing sweet, gentle, docile Bso, no eight Robins then) Robins were existing simultaneously. And it was *inside a boat* It is called hepta-location rather than bi-location and is one of the miracles only available to the consciousness of he who has been two, then one, then two again. If you get my drift. (Two means something quite different when you have been absolutely oneI mean the pre-One Two is other than the Post-One Two.) Robin1: Robin0, Robin1, Robin2, Robin3, Robin4, and now (if you read my conversation with Share) Robin5 (Brahman Consciousness)I actually experience myself coming in and going out into all of these six forms of Robin alternately, iranitea. Mind you, when I am in one of these states of consciousness I have a particular view of another state of Robin; for instance the RobinOhe was still in waking state; and could only dream about BC (Robin5). But sometimes Robin5 looks nostalgically back at Robin-1 (before LSD): that guy is, if you really want to know the truth, who my shrink wants me to get back to. And I think him right in this. (Actually it is a sheand she's very beautifulOh, my: but now we are into another problem: RobinR (Robin Romantic)but he has been with all the other seven Robins. Robin-1, Robin0, Robin1 and so on.) Iranitea1: Yes RobinRomantic, he must be a twin of RobinN (RobinNostalgic) Robin2: No nostalgia, no romances. You trying to get a dig in there, iranitea? Look, I am fiercely proud of going with those mantras (they took me there) right into Unity. But I am even more proud of defying those mantrasand the Unity Consciousness they gloriously conferred upon meand getting back to being in ignorance. Where is the f***ing nostalgia, iranitea? I just stand up for my rights around here. Nostalgia, well, that would mean I pine for the good old days, right? I wouldn't go back there for all the bliss inside Vaj's mind. Sentimental longing for the pastthat kind of pain and ache and melancholy, why that's that first person ontology BS. No, I am a now kind of guy, iranitea. Feel it? No looking back for me. But I think you right in this one respect: My fame derives from my claims to have been enlightened under Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and to the extent that gets the attention of readers at FFL, well, I think it is a legitimate trick when I postOf course I have no businessif I really have moved onreferring constantly and nauseatingly to my enlightenment past, but I can assure you, iranitea, if you had been there, you would find this temptation quite overwhelming. Because you see, when I was enlightened I wielded authority over othersand this, I admit, I find hard to give up. But all things considered, iranitea, I am trying, like Share, to love my way out of all this. Trying, then, in the very end, to make B be nice to me. I will consider legal action if you ever accuse me of being RobinNostalgicThey're ain't no such Robin. Not so far, iranitea. So this is a libel. (Right Marek?) By the way, are you on the level here? Perhaps you are just joshing meyou are capable of doing that, aren't you? I don't mind intellectual argument, but no ad hominems, please, iranitea. Are you Persian by the way? Born into a Shi'a household? Or does iran refer to your Aryan roots? And you quite possibly are Indian. Doesn't matter to me by the way: But you got the reference to the tea and oranges that come all the way from China, right? Robin1: Are you wanting a fight here, iranitea? Iranitea1: Me? No! I can't take it up with 7 Robins. Robin2: Good. That's smart of you, iranitea. Right
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Buck...mending my ways and posting only photos of sattvic TMers
FYI, the pictures Turq posted could probably be seen on billboards and city buses. The link to Boogie Nights was for the trailer not the movie itself and could be shown on broadcast TV. Don't be such a prude. :-D On 07/30/2012 11:30 AM, Buck wrote: Friends; we should think of the children here, the MSAE children who may be reading this site. These fellows who posts this stuff seem to have no filters what so ever. Right now the adult decision needs to be taken by our moderators to remove these guys for the spiritual safety of our children and the well-being of a larger community here. With the best of concern and regards for all, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 07/30/2012 09:38 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Laura Dern: Ellen DeGeneris (with Portia de Rossi): Sheryl Crow: Heather Graham: Naomi Watts: And those who would like to see more of Heather Graham can do so in the P.T. Anderson movie Boogie Nights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLgDiBoKyqA Anderson has a new film coming out shortly called The Master and purportedly based on L Ron Hubbard. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/the-master-release-date-paul-thomas-anderson-scientology_n_1711735.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment
[FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
Wha? Compared to most of us who post here, you're at worst, very mild-mannered. Don't get what you are apologizing for. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: This is an apology to anyone whose feelings tender heart I may have hurt.� I'm willing to do what I can to make amends.� And I'm doing my best to develop so that I don't continue hurting people knowingly or unknowingly.� sigh, FFL is quite the heart workout.� Who would have thought?!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another reason FFLers should look into mindfulness
I have a long term friend who started training with Chogyam Trungpa in the early 1970's. He practiced in group and on retreats with Deirdre Blomfield-Brown (a.k.a. Pema Choedren). He also practiced with Thomas F. Rich, (a.k.a. Osel Tendzin) later declared by Trungpa to be his Vajra-Regent. When it was discovered that Osel Tendzin knew he was HIV positive and already had developed AIDS but hid that fact and then infected a 14 year old boy, the moral eruption that followed split the Vajradhatu community. During the tumult, it was Deirdre/Pema C. who refused to censure Osel's deadly actions but continually advised people Don't be judgmental, just meditate. Don't think bad about someone. It will all be o.k. My friend has always been clear that moral discipline (Sanskrit: shila) was one of the three foundations of Buddhist practice. The other two foundations are meditaion (dhyana) and insight (prajña). This is straight Buddhism 101. However, he knew and trained with them all, - Trungpa, Osel and Pema. To this day he will not consider anything Pema says to be worth considering. He has only distain for her advice at the time: We don't want to overshadow the Dharma. Just look on the positive. This is how the corruption of Dharma starts with just this kind of moral relativism. Guess they all hadn't read enough Thomas Aquinas. Better yet, since they worshipped all those Buddhist demons, what else should anyone expect? Better go get an expectorant. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote: To be without a reference point is the ultimate loneliness. It is also called enlightenment. Ani Pema Chodron Although I like Pema Chodron, I suspect that in this case her comment may have been taken out of context. There is a difference between a false reference point -- e.g., the belief that one knows the Truth -- and a useful reference point, which IMO involves merely living what life is, without any beliefs about its nature. Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. -- Voltaire Buddhist nun and teacher in the Shambhala Buddhist lineage,a fully ordained bhikSuNI in a combination of the Mulasarvastivadin and Dharmaguptaka lineages of vinaya, from(2000), Six Kinds of Loneliness,used in this turquoiseb quoted still uncorrected proofs paper [:D] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7dtLIXE5fUfeature=results_videoplaynex\ t=1list=PL791ADAB1C3B2B940 What a nice discourse. 'Opening the door to Invincibility'. She's talking about TM and She's a Buddhist? -Buck in FF Central theme of her teachings is shenpa -usual translation of the word shenpa is attachment-, which she interprets as anger, low self-esteem, or addiction in response to an insult by another person or be hooked, that sticky feeling almost like having scabies- shenpa is the itch and it's the urge to scratch: Somebody says a mean word to you and then something in you tightens that's the shenpa. Then it starts to spiral into low self-esteem, or blaming them, or anger at them, denigrating yourself. And maybe if you have strong addictions, you just go right for your addiction to cover over the bad feeling that arose when that person said that mean word to you. This is a mean word that gets you, hooks you. Another mean word may not affect you but we're talking about where it touches that sore place that's a shenpa. This part I agree with fully, especially the aspect of attachment. Without attachment, words are just words. With attachment, they become much more -- triggers for our samskaras and a lingering indulgence in our addiction to the emotions once triggered by those same words. Someone criticizes you they criticize your work, they criticize your appearance, they criticize your child and, shenpa: almost co-arising. I would assume that her larger teaching has to do with the fact that shenpa need *not* be co-arising. One can detect it early, and avoid the problem before it arises into a manifest form such as anger or acting out. I'm starting to see glimmers of this avoiding the shenpa in 3-1/2-year-old Maya. Words or actions that once would have resulted in acting out and a quick trip to the Timeout Corner now result only in a quiz- ical look, as she feels the reaction start to build in her the way it did before, followed by a smile, as she lets it go and decides to do something else instead, something that will allow her to keep playing. That's one of the reasons Fairfield Life is sometimes a shock to me. I see people -- people who have been meditating for thirty to forty-plus years -- still as reactive to certain words and certain criticisms and certain actions as they probably were before they started
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
Dear Robbie Boy, You made one big goof here. I am correcting you. Note: When the subjectivity of iranitea, on the other hand, cooperates somehow with the movement and intention of reality in a given second, and does not stick out and make a spectacle of itself, that means *you are not losing contact with the reality which created you*. Get it? You left out the NOT there, Robin. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote Dear Iranitea, Robin1: Multiple Personality. I was diagnosed recently, and have been fighting it. Iranitea: Robin, don't fight it. Because which Robin would fight it, and would all the other Robins agree? Try to take them into the boat rather. Robin2: Are you by any chance making fun of me, iranitea? I have found, since I wrote this post, that there is a way of *using my freewill* to choose which Robin I want to beI have not left that to the Three Gunas. I can be any Robin I want to beany of the seven. What interests me most, though, iranitea, is which Robin *would* you like me to be in this moment? By the way, there is a Robin8that's the Robin that realizes that B's inadvertent irony is an irony more subtle even than my own. But when I'm *not* Robin8 I keep thinking: Hey, Emily is right, and B is just studiously ignoring her posts (critical of himpoor guy)but when I become Robin8 (not sure what consciousness that isbut it permits me to see right into the soul of B) I realize B is having us all on. He's pretty damn good, I'd say. A big kidder all the waybut with the meanest of purity of intention, I am sure. That's no mean intention B has, I mean. What's this about a boat? It's funny you would say that because once I had a dream where all seven (I had not had the privilege of knowing sweet, gentle, docile Bso, no eight Robins then) Robins were existing simultaneously. And it was *inside a boat* It is called hepta-location rather than bi-location and is one of the miracles only available to the consciousness of he who has been two, then one, then two again. If you get my drift. (Two means something quite different when you have been absolutely oneI mean the pre-One Two is other than the Post-One Two.) Robin1: Robin0, Robin1, Robin2, Robin3, Robin4, and now (if you read my conversation with Share) Robin5 (Brahman Consciousness)I actually experience myself coming in and going out into all of these six forms of Robin alternately, iranitea. Mind you, when I am in one of these states of consciousness I have a particular view of another state of Robin; for instance the RobinOhe was still in waking state; and could only dream about BC (Robin5). But sometimes Robin5 looks nostalgically back at Robin-1 (before LSD): that guy is, if you really want to know the truth, who my shrink wants me to get back to. And I think him right in this. (Actually it is a sheand she's very beautifulOh, my: but now we are into another problem: RobinR (Robin Romantic)but he has been with all the other seven Robins. Robin-1, Robin0, Robin1 and so on.) Iranitea1: Yes RobinRomantic, he must be a twin of RobinN (RobinNostalgic) Robin2: No nostalgia, no romances. You trying to get a dig in there, iranitea? Look, I am fiercely proud of going with those mantras (they took me there) right into Unity. But I am even more proud of defying those mantrasand the Unity Consciousness they gloriously conferred upon meand getting back to being in ignorance. Where is the f***ing nostalgia, iranitea? I just stand up for my rights around here. Nostalgia, well, that would mean I pine for the good old days, right? I wouldn't go back there for all the bliss inside Vaj's mind. Sentimental longing for the pastthat kind of pain and ache and melancholy, why that's that first person ontology BS. No, I am a now kind of guy, iranitea. Feel it? No looking back for me. But I think you right in this one respect: My fame derives from my claims to have been enlightened under Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and to the extent that gets the attention of readers at FFL, well, I think it is a legitimate trick when I postOf course I have no businessif I really have moved onreferring constantly and nauseatingly to my enlightenment past, but I can assure you, iranitea, if you had been there, you would find this temptation quite overwhelming. Because you see, when I was enlightened I wielded authority over othersand this, I admit, I find hard to give up. But all things considered, iranitea, I am trying, like Share, to love my way out of all this. Trying, then, in the very end, to make B be nice to me. I will consider legal action if you ever accuse me of being RobinNostalgicThey're ain't no such Robin. Not so far, iranitea. So this is a libel. (Right Marek?) By the way, are you on the level here? Perhaps you are just
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Buck...mending my ways and posting only photos of sattvic TMers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: FYI, the pictures Turq posted could probably be seen on billboards and city buses. More to the point, they're among the images of their TMer heroines that they would find if they just searched Google Images for their names. That's what I did; that's where these photos came from. I'm just fuckin' tired of Buck's act, when it swings prudish and Fundamentalist and nasty, as it just did. Buck has a tendency to dream up things that push *his* buttons, and then pretend that they push a lot of other people's buttons in Fairfield, the never-named, almost-certainly-imaginary people he interviews. I'm calling bullshit. I think -- whether or not he believes that his Buck act is an act or not -- it reveals a great deal about buck and *HIS* samskaras, *HIS* hangups. I don't think that there are either MSAE children or children of any other stripe reading this forum, and if there were I give them far more credit than Buck does. They've seen, dealt with, and handled (as Bhairitu says) images of these TM heroines themselves, and almost certainly *they weren't affronted by them*. Unlike Buck, they probably grew up comfortable with sexuality -- their own, and other people's -- and don't feel threatened by it. The link to Boogie Nights was for the trailer not the movie itself and could be shown on broadcast TV. Don't be such a prude. And don't be such a solipsist as to believe that you have the RIGHT to enforce your prudery on others. We get it -- you're not comfortable with this century. You prefer to imagine spiritual as having to do with communes full of women in granny dresses, among the past cults you revere. Free Clue: all those people are dead, and so are (with only a few exceptions) the so- called spiritual lineages they hoped to found. One of the reasons these movements died a much-deserved death is that they took it upon themselves, as believers, to tell their neighbors, the unbelievers, how they should live their lives. And now they're all dead, and so are the movements they thought were so holy, and so immortal. Their neighbors forgot them, and so should we. Meanwhile human sexuality lives on, and refuses to hide its head in shame because people like Buck think it should. Protect the innocent MSAE children from images they could see -- and should be able to see -- on their computers or on TV or elsewhere any day of the week? Get real. The people who we should be concerned about protecting these children from are people like Buck. They could grow up to be like him. On 07/30/2012 11:30 AM, Buck wrote: Friends; we should think of the children here, the MSAE children who may be reading this site. These fellows who posts this stuff seem to have no filters what so ever. Right now the adult decision needs to be taken by our moderators to remove these guys for the spiritual safety of our children and the well- being of a larger community here. With the best of concern and regards for all, -Buck in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
oy --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote Dear Iranitea, Robin1: Multiple Personality. I was diagnosed recently, and have been fighting it. Iranitea: Robin, don't fight it. Because which Robin would fight it, and would all the other Robins agree? Try to take them into the boat rather. Robin2: Are you by any chance making fun of me, iranitea? I have found, since I wrote this post, that there is a way of *using my freewill* to choose which Robin I want to beI have not left that to the Three Gunas. I can be any Robin I want to beany of the seven. What interests me most, though, iranitea, is which Robin *would* you like me to be in this moment? By the way, there is a Robin8that's the Robin that realizes that B's inadvertent irony is an irony more subtle even than my own. But when I'm *not* Robin8 I keep thinking: Hey, Emily is right, and B is just studiously ignoring her posts (critical of himpoor guy)but when I become Robin8 (not sure what consciousness that isbut it permits me to see right into the soul of B) I realize B is having us all on. He's pretty damn good, I'd say. A big kidder all the waybut with the meanest of purity of intention, I am sure. That's no mean intention B has, I mean. What's this about a boat? It's funny you would say that because once I had a dream where all seven (I had not had the privilege of knowing sweet, gentle, docile Bso, no eight Robins then) Robins were existing simultaneously. And it was *inside a boat* It is called hepta-location rather than bi-location and is one of the miracles only available to the consciousness of he who has been two, then one, then two again. If you get my drift. (Two means something quite different when you have been absolutely oneI mean the pre-One Two is other than the Post-One Two.) Robin1: Robin0, Robin1, Robin2, Robin3, Robin4, and now (if you read my conversation with Share) Robin5 (Brahman Consciousness)I actually experience myself coming in and going out into all of these six forms of Robin alternately, iranitea. Mind you, when I am in one of these states of consciousness I have a particular view of another state of Robin; for instance the RobinOhe was still in waking state; and could only dream about BC (Robin5). But sometimes Robin5 looks nostalgically back at Robin-1 (before LSD): that guy is, if you really want to know the truth, who my shrink wants me to get back to. And I think him right in this. (Actually it is a sheand she's very beautifulOh, my: but now we are into another problem: RobinR (Robin Romantic)but he has been with all the other seven Robins. Robin-1, Robin0, Robin1 and so on.) Iranitea1: Yes RobinRomantic, he must be a twin of RobinN (RobinNostalgic) Robin2: No nostalgia, no romances. You trying to get a dig in there, iranitea? Look, I am fiercely proud of going with those mantras (they took me there) right into Unity. But I am even more proud of defying those mantrasand the Unity Consciousness they gloriously conferred upon meand getting back to being in ignorance. Where is the f***ing nostalgia, iranitea? I just stand up for my rights around here. Nostalgia, well, that would mean I pine for the good old days, right? I wouldn't go back there for all the bliss inside Vaj's mind. Sentimental longing for the pastthat kind of pain and ache and melancholy, why that's that first person ontology BS. No, I am a now kind of guy, iranitea. Feel it? No looking back for me. But I think you right in this one respect: My fame derives from my claims to have been enlightened under Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and to the extent that gets the attention of readers at FFL, well, I think it is a legitimate trick when I postOf course I have no businessif I really have moved onreferring constantly and nauseatingly to my enlightenment past, but I can assure you, iranitea, if you had been there, you would find this temptation quite overwhelming. Because you see, when I was enlightened I wielded authority over othersand this, I admit, I find hard to give up. But all things considered, iranitea, I am trying, like Share, to love my way out of all this. Trying, then, in the very end, to make B be nice to me. I will consider legal action if you ever accuse me of being RobinNostalgicThey're ain't no such Robin. Not so far, iranitea. So this is a libel. (Right Marek?) By the way, are you on the level here? Perhaps you are just joshing meyou are capable of doing that, aren't you? I don't mind intellectual argument, but no ad hominems, please, iranitea. Are you Persian by the way? Born into a Shi'a household? Or does iran refer to your Aryan roots? And you quite possibly are Indian. Doesn't matter to me by the way: But you got the reference to the tea and oranges that come all the way from
[FairfieldLife] Hagelin on the Higgs boson
Hagelin's discussion on the discovery of the Higgs boson from a theoretical physicist's perspective in the July 14 Maharishi Family Chat (http://streaming.mou.org/MOU2/chat/14_Jul_12.wmv) was most interesting. Can someone clip it and post it on the YouTube please? Thanks, Eustace -- The Meditation Meter Website https://files.nyu.edu/emf202/public/tm/project.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ramblings around Leiden
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Dearest Robin, RC, RC(C) (subscript or superscript - let us say that the C stands for compassionate shall we? Just add that to your many personas) Emily1: You acknowledge me where I am, as I am, and you give me that gift. Yes, I took on life, but in a rebellious way and now I am forced to take a more gentle approach and I am pretty P.O'd when I'm not visiting the victim 'hood. Robin2: I simply sought in my letter to you, Emily, to find you in my experience, never knowing you in person. You engendered a certain feeling in me, and I thought I owed it to that feeling, therefore to you, to follow that feeling out to its natural and logical expression: which was of course to express my affection for you, and my desire to have the grace of life somehow heal you. Heal you, that is, to the extent that you can feel your present circumstances are becoming manageable. Again, in trying to address you here I am doing the same thing. Reality will have to do the rest. In a sense the very reality which first dealt you such a blow. I don't know objectively where words spoken to you from here in Toronto, Canada, can actually be carried somehow to you and make themselves felt in some way which creates even imperceptibly a differenceI doubt that. But I must do what I feel I cannot not do. And that is just to follow my moral intuition here. Essentially, then, I will be repeating the same act. But with no less inspiration and intention. Emily1: The inner drive, the energy that sustained me, my ability to write and think for a living, my physical stamina - I depended on these things - they defined me (took them for granted in hindsight.) These things have faded in the last 1.5 years - my emotions took over, demanded attention, overwhelmed me. Ahhh, WTF? Is it the hormones, is it the family of origin issues, is it my karma, is it the collapsed adrenal system, is it unprocessed grief, is it negative entities taking over, is it the diet, is it lack of spiritual discipline, is it that I am inherently flawed? Self-forgiveness is the hardest thing I do, or don't do as the case may be. In my elementary understanding and reading of well-known verse...Jesus said, Father forgive them for they know not what they do. This helps me forgive others, but I give myself no such out. Robin2: This seems an inexplicable and almost entirely gratuitous blow of fate, Emily. I cannot discern how providence (the plan that God has for youif we can just relate to that metaphorically: which amounts to saying that everything happens for a reasona saying I recoil at, because it is so often uttered at a level of experience that doesn't bite into reality at all) can justify having deprived you of so much of what was strong and creative and masterful in your life. This utterly confounds me, Emily. But I am not so naive as to pretend I could possibly understand the causality of thisYou have offered various explanatory candidates for your present suffering and the enervation of will. I suppose, I am just discovering this, I can only pray for you (In my own way, which for me is just realizing that I care for you and want you and your life to be different; that is, indeed, how I shall pray for you). I don't of course have any personal responsibility in all this, but the fairness, the sincerity, the intelligence, and the common sense in you seems quite remarkable to me. I have to respond to you, Emily. You have said things in your posts, offered perspectives, tracked your own sense of truth in ways which compel me enough to write to you personally. And so I have, and so I am.). Emily1: My new philosophy is pay attention to the next indicated step. It's all I can do..show up for drill...try to stay present. My memory fails mewhat is happening now? Oh yeah, I have a dog and the kids are still here. Alright then, off to a walk in the park and a visit to the counselor. Our new thing. (I'm a hard ass if you didn't know...my kids will tell you I lack compassion.) I said: Either you agree to family counseling or you move out. Period. Oh, you are only 15 (to the youngest)? I don't care. They believe me. I'm firm, not always fair, and not always consistent, but they believe me. It's my latest attempt to salvage the family and after today's session, my oldest thinks there may be a glimmer of hope. Small steps. Robin2: What I get from this, Emily, is conviction, courage, and the determination to respond to the painful and disquietingand even debilitatingchallenge that is coming at you frontally in your life these last eighteen months. And I sense that whatever is the specific efficacy of this counselling, the very act of going through this process is itself an honest and appropriate response to your predicament. I give you all my support, and I am sure, whatever is the response of your children, they
[FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
It appears that Saint Share has emerged as our idol and role model here at FFL. My guess is that she has been sent, somewhat belatedly, by God as a replacement for Stupid Sal, which is definitely an improvement. (Saint Share, you may not be familiar with Stupid Sal, but she was renowned for being not only, well, stupid, but also for the sheer nastiness of her posts.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Dear Share:  You are a gem of a human being.  I'm not sure what inspired you to write this, but you seem the least likely to hurt anyone's tender feelings.  Personally, mine are just me getting over myself.  It had to happen sometime.  No worries...FFL has the ability to absorb many perspectives, many emotions, many points of view.  I used to undergo days long shame attacks for some of the things I posted - I work to get over myself - it's not really all about me.  My posts never seemed to phase anyone else and often the exact right post would turn up to get me out of myself, my drama, etc. and give me a little perspective.  Or, they would pass into oblivion where they belonged.  As I say to myself...no need to personalize everything.  Far to tiring an MO.  All in a days work, so to speak.  So, I stopped taking myself quite so seriously and stopped worrying so much. Just scenes in a play really.  FFL may seem like a tough place, but really, not so much.  Child's play.  From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] to whom it may concern  This is an apology to anyone whose feelings tender heart I may have hurt. I'm willing to do what I can to make amends. And I'm doing my best to develop so that I don't continue hurting people knowingly or unknowingly. sigh, FFL is quite the heart workout. Who would have thought?!
[FairfieldLife] Don't expect harmony or counterpoint!
ww.youtube.com/watch?v=al1q01CZgtc
[FairfieldLife] Re: Don't expect harmony or counterpoint!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: ww.youtube.com/watch?v=al1q01CZgtc www.youtube.com/watch?v=al1q01CZgtc
[FairfieldLife] Re: Don't expect harmony or counterpoint!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: ww.youtube.com/watch?v=al1q01CZgtc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al1q01CZgtc
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Buck...mending my ways and posting only photos of sattvic TMers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Friends; we should think of the children here, the MSAE children who may be reading this site. These fellows who posts this stuff seem to have no filters what so ever. Right now the adult decision needs to be taken by our moderators to remove these guys for the spiritual safety of our children and the well-being of a larger community here. With the best of concern and regards for all, -Buck in FF Oh dear, I must be missing something very juicy because I have yet to see anything in the last day or two that could possibly harm the innocents on this site. But indeed if there is something dubious in the form of pictures or videos for God's sake, tell me where they are. I'm dying to see them! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 07/30/2012 09:38 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Laura Dern: Ellen DeGeneris (with Portia de Rossi): Sheryl Crow: Heather Graham: Naomi Watts: And those who would like to see more of Heather Graham can do so in the P.T. Anderson movie Boogie Nights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLgDiBoKyqA Anderson has a new film coming out shortly called The Master and purportedly based on L Ron Hubbard. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/the-master-release-date-paul-thomas-anderson-scientology_n_1711735.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Buck...mending my ways and posting only photos of sattvic TMers
That's an impressive line-up of TM pinups. For a priceless glance from Naomi Watts follow David Lynch down the rabbit hole here . . . http://tinyurl.com/ch5xfww
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
Maybe she was sending FFL an example of how to apologize. Tee Hee. From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 1:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern It appears that Saint Share has emerged as our idol and role model here at FFL. My guess is that she has been sent, somewhat belatedly, by God as a replacement for Stupid Sal, which is definitely an improvement. (Saint Share, you may not be familiar with Stupid Sal, but she was renowned for being not only, well, stupid, but also for the sheer nastiness of her posts.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Dear Share:  You are a gem of a human being.  I'm not sure what inspired you to write this, but you seem the least likely to hurt anyone's tender feelings.  Personally, mine are just me getting over myself.  It had to happen sometime.  No worries...FFL has the ability to absorb many perspectives, many emotions, many points of view.  I used to undergo days long shame attacks for some of the things I posted - I work to get over myself - it's not really all about me.  My posts never seemed to phase anyone else and often the exact right post would turn up to get me out of myself, my drama, etc. and give me a little perspective.  Or, they would pass into oblivion where they belonged.  As I say to myself...no need to personalize everything.  Far to tiring an MO.  All in a days work, so to speak.  So, I stopped taking myself quite so seriously and stopped worrying so much. Just scenes in a play really.  FFL may seem like a tough place, but really, not so much.  Child's play.  From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] to whom it may concern  This is an apology to anyone whose feelings tender heart I may have hurt. I'm willing to do what I can to make amends. And I'm doing my best to develop so that I don't continue hurting people knowingly or unknowingly. sigh, FFL is quite the heart workout. Who would have thought?!
[FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
Why on earth would you gratuitously malign Sal, who no longer posts here, but who very well might continue to follow the posts on this forum? She was manifestly neither stupid nor nasty. Though she could be sharp in her comments, she was far less so than a couple of serial posters who are still here. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: It appears that Saint Share has emerged as our idol and role model here at FFL. My guess is that she has been sent, somewhat belatedly, by God as a replacement for Stupid Sal, which is definitely an improvement. (Saint Share, you may not be familiar with Stupid Sal, but she was renowned for being not only, well, stupid, but also for the sheer nastiness of her posts.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Share:  You are a gem of a human being.  I'm not sure what inspired you to write this, but you seem the least likely to hurt anyone's tender feelings.  Personally, mine are just me getting over myself.  It had to happen sometime.  No worries...FFL has the ability to absorb many perspectives, many emotions, many points of view.  I used to undergo days long shame attacks for some of the things I posted - I work to get over myself - it's not really all about me.  My posts never seemed to phase anyone else and often the exact right post would turn up to get me out of myself, my drama, etc. and give me a little perspective.  Or, they would pass into oblivion where they belonged.  As I say to myself...no need to personalize everything.  Far to tiring an MO.  All in a days work, so to speak.  So, I stopped taking myself quite so seriously and stopped worrying so much. Just scenes in a play really.  FFL may seem like a tough place, but really, not so much.  Child's play.  From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] to whom it may concern  This is an apology to anyone whose feelings tender heart I may have hurt. I'm willing to do what I can to make amends. And I'm doing my best to develop so that I don't continue hurting people knowingly or unknowingly. sigh, FFL is quite the heart workout. Who would have thought?!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin on the Higgs boson
Excellent talk. Data points and Experimentalism, I find it extremely interesting and exciting to be part of this research by being in the Dome meditating with the large group. Like with the CERN collider I am glad the Domes have been sustained for this important and cutting edge research in to fundamentals of large Nature in one unified wholeness of experience. We know its there. We meditate at 7:30am and 5:00pm. Join us as great experimentalists. -Buck in the Dome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eustace10679 no_reply@... wrote: Hagelin's discussion on the discovery of the Higgs boson from a theoretical physicist's perspective in the July 14 Maharishi Family Chat (http://streaming.mou.org/MOU2/chat/14_Jul_12.wmv) was most interesting. Can someone clip it and post it on the YouTube please? Thanks, Eustace -- The Meditation Meter Website https://files.nyu.edu/emf202/public/tm/project.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Buck...mending my ways and posting only photos of sattvic TMers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: FYI, the pictures Turq posted could probably be seen on billboards and city buses. More to the point, they're among the images of their TMer heroines that they would find if they just searched Google Images for their names. That's what I did; that's where these photos came from. I'm just fuckin' tired of Buck's act, when it swings prudish and Fundamentalist and nasty, as it just did. Buck has a tendency to dream up things that push *his* buttons, and then pretend that they push a lot of other people's buttons in Fairfield, the never-named, almost-certainly-imaginary people he interviews. I'm calling bullshit. Well Buck got you going here too Barry, buttons and all. I find it a little unlikely you are quite as offended as you are making it sound however, all sound and fury and all of that... I think -- whether or not he believes that his Buck act is an act or not -- it reveals a great deal about buck and *HIS* samskaras, *HIS* hangups. I don't think that there are either MSAE children or children of any other stripe reading this forum, and if there were I give them far more credit than Buck does. They've seen, dealt with, and handled (as Bhairitu says) images of these TM heroines themselves, and almost certainly *they weren't affronted by them*. I am sure you are correct Barry. But you know what, we all know and realize this, you can stop beating that dead horse now. Your outrage seems feigned. Unlike Buck, they probably grew up comfortable with sexuality -- their own, and other people's -- and don't feel threatened by it. Pretty big generalization here. The link to Boogie Nights was for the trailer not the movie itself and could be shown on broadcast TV. Don't be such a prude. And don't be such a solipsist as to believe that you have the RIGHT to enforce your prudery on others. We get it -- you're not comfortable with this century. You prefer to imagine spiritual as having to do with communes full of women in granny dresses, among the past cults you revere. Free Clue: all those people are dead, and so are (with only a few exceptions) the so- called spiritual lineages they hoped to found. Now you're on a roll. Fun isn't it? One of the reasons these movements died a much-deserved death is that they took it upon themselves, as believers, to tell their neighbors, the unbelievers, how they should live their lives. And now they're all dead, and so are the movements they thought were so holy, and so immortal. Their neighbors forgot them, and so should we. What movements? Who as believers? What neighbors? When did they die? Who died? Who's on first? Meanwhile human sexuality lives on, and refuses to hide its head in shame because people like Buck think it should. What does sexuality's head look like by the way? Protect the innocent MSAE children from images they could see -- and should be able to see -- on their computers or on TV or elsewhere any day of the week? Get real. Good point. The people who we should be concerned about protecting these children from are people like Buck. They could grow up to be like him. Oh nasty, Barry, low blow. That Buck, he may be a bit prudish but on the plus side he doesn't post pictures of true believers in granny dresses and Birkenstocks. On 07/30/2012 11:30 AM, Buck wrote: Friends; we should think of the children here, the MSAE children who may be reading this site. These fellows who posts this stuff seem to have no filters what so ever. Right now the adult decision needs to be taken by our moderators to remove these guys for the spiritual safety of our children and the well- being of a larger community here. With the best of concern and regards for all, -Buck in FF
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ramblings around Leiden
Dear Robin, thank you for the beautiful response. I have no words to express how touched I am and your words make their way through my self-flagellation reminding me that it's time to stop with all that nonsense. It's nice to know that you are one of those people out there who will throw one a life-preserver. Sincerely, Emily From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 1:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ramblings around Leiden --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Dearest Robin, RC, RC(C) (subscript or superscript - let us say that the C stands for compassionate shall we? Just add that to your many personas) Emily1: You acknowledge me where I am, as I am, and you give me that gift. Yes, I took on life, but in a rebellious way and now I am forced to take a more gentle approach and I am pretty P.O'd when I'm not visiting the victim 'hood. Robin2: I simply sought in my letter to you, Emily, to find you in my experience, never knowing you in person. You engendered a certain feeling in me, and I thought I owed it to that feeling, therefore to you, to follow that feeling out to its natural and logical expression: which was of course to express my affection for you, and my desire to have the grace of life somehow heal you. Heal you, that is, to the extent that you can feel your present circumstances are becoming manageable. Again, in trying to address you here I am doing the same thing. Reality will have to do the rest. In a sense the very reality which first dealt you such a blow. I don't know objectively where words spoken to you from here in Toronto, Canada, can actually be carried somehow to you and make themselves felt in some way which creates even imperceptibly a difference—I doubt that. But I must do what I feel I cannot not do. And that is just to follow my moral intuition here. Essentially, then, I will be repeating the same act. But with no less inspiration and intention. Emily1: The inner drive, the energy that sustained me, my ability to write and think for a living, my physical stamina - I depended on these things - they defined me (took them for granted in hindsight.) These things have faded in the last 1.5 years - my emotions took over, demanded attention, overwhelmed me. Ahhh, WTF? Is it the hormones, is it the family of origin issues, is it my karma, is it the collapsed adrenal system, is it unprocessed grief, is it negative entities taking over, is it the diet, is it lack of spiritual discipline, is it that I am inherently flawed? Self-forgiveness is the hardest thing I do, or don't do as the case may be. In my elementary understanding and reading of well-known verse...Jesus said, Father forgive them for they know not what they do. This helps me forgive others, but I give myself no such out. Robin2: This seems an inexplicable and almost entirely gratuitous blow of fate, Emily. I cannot discern how providence (the plan that God has for you—if we can just relate to that metaphorically: which amounts to saying that everything happens for a reason—a saying I recoil at, because it is so often uttered at a level of experience that doesn't bite into reality at all) can justify having deprived you of so much of what was strong and creative and masterful in your life. This utterly confounds me, Emily. But I am not so naive as to pretend I could possibly understand the causality of this—You have offered various explanatory candidates for your present suffering and the enervation of will. I suppose, I am just discovering this, I can only pray for you (In my own way, which for me is just realizing that I care for you and want you and your life to be different; that is, indeed, how I shall pray for you). I don't of course have any personal responsibility in all this, but the fairness, the sincerity, the intelligence, and the common sense in you seems quite remarkable to me. I have to respond to you, Emily. You have said things in your posts, offered perspectives, tracked your own sense of truth in ways which compel me enough to write to you personally. And so I have, and so I am.). Emily1: My new philosophy is pay attention to the next indicated step. It's all I can do..show up for drill...try to stay present. My memory fails mewhat is happening now? Oh yeah, I have a dog and the kids are still here. Alright then, off to a walk in the park and a visit to the counselor. Our new thing. (I'm a hard ass if you didn't know...my kids will tell you I lack compassion.) I said: Either you agree to family counseling or you move out. Period. Oh, you are only 15 (to the youngest)? I don't care. They believe me. I'm firm, not always fair, and not always consistent, but they believe me. It's my latest attempt to salvage the family and after today's session, my oldest thinks there may be a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Buck...mending my ways and posting only photos of sattvic TMers
On 07/30/2012 02:49 PM, Seraphita wrote: That's an impressive line-up of TM pinups. For a priceless glance from Naomi Watts follow David Lynch down the rabbit hole here . . . http://tinyurl.com/ch5xfww I see the copyright cops have been busy! :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
I stand by my comment. Stupid Sal was the nastiest poster on this forum by a country mile, and she was a careless, incompetent reader of the posts of others. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: Why on earth would you gratuitously malign Sal, who no longer posts here, but who very well might continue to follow the posts on this forum? She was manifestly neither stupid nor nasty. Though she could be sharp in her comments, she was far less so than a couple of serial posters who are still here. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: It appears that Saint Share has emerged as our idol and role model here at FFL. My guess is that she has been sent, somewhat belatedly, by God as a replacement for Stupid Sal, which is definitely an improvement. (Saint Share, you may not be familiar with Stupid Sal, but she was renowned for being not only, well, stupid, but also for the sheer nastiness of her posts.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Share:  You are a gem of a human being.  I'm not sure what inspired you to write this, but you seem the least likely to hurt anyone's tender feelings.  Personally, mine are just me getting over myself.  It had to happen sometime.  No worries...FFL has the ability to absorb many perspectives, many emotions, many points of view.  I used to undergo days long shame attacks for some of the things I posted - I work to get over myself - it's not really all about me.  My posts never seemed to phase anyone else and often the exact right post would turn up to get me out of myself, my drama, etc. and give me a little perspective.  Or, they would pass into oblivion where they belonged.  As I say to myself...no need to personalize everything.  Far to tiring an MO.  All in a days work, so to speak.  So, I stopped taking myself quite so seriously and stopped worrying so much. Just scenes in a play really.  FFL may seem like a tough place, but really, not so much.  Child's play.  From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] to whom it may concern  This is an apology to anyone whose feelings tender heart I may have hurt. I'm willing to do what I can to make amends. And I'm doing my best to develop so that I don't continue hurting people knowingly or unknowingly. sigh, FFL is quite the heart workout. Who would have thought?!
[FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: Why on earth would you gratuitously malign Sal, who no longer posts here, but who very well might continue to follow the posts on this forum? She was manifestly neither stupid nor nasty. She was manifestly both, Marek. Not always, but frequently. She had a tendency to be gratuitously malicious, so she has no right to expect she won't be gratuitously maligned. It's actually giving her the benefit of the doubt to call her stupid, rather than assuming her various distortions and false statements (which she would never acknowledge, let alone apologize for) were deliberate. Though she could be sharp in her comments, she was far less so than a couple of serial posters who are still here. snicker You just couldn't resist sneaking in that serial, could you? *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: It appears that Saint Share has emerged as our idol and role model here at FFL. My guess is that she has been sent, somewhat belatedly, by God as a replacement for Stupid Sal, which is definitely an improvement. (Saint Share, you may not be familiar with Stupid Sal, but she was renowned for being not only, well, stupid, but also for the sheer nastiness of her posts.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
Your opinion is your own and everyone's personal opinion guides their interactions with others, or their lack of interaction with others, as the case may be. You and I disagree in our opinions re Sal; my remark was prompted by the fact that you brought Sal up for no purpose other than to bash her on this forum where she hasn't participated for quite some time and where many new folks, who have joined after she left, have no knowledge of her whatsoever . . . except, of course, now your malicious potshot at her in her absence. I was astonished at that. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: I stand by my comment. Stupid Sal was the nastiest poster on this forum by a country mile, and she was a careless, incompetent reader of the posts of others. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Why on earth would you gratuitously malign Sal, who no longer posts here, but who very well might continue to follow the posts on this forum? She was manifestly neither stupid nor nasty. Though she could be sharp in her comments, she was far less so than a couple of serial posters who are still here. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: It appears that Saint Share has emerged as our idol and role model here at FFL. My guess is that she has been sent, somewhat belatedly, by God as a replacement for Stupid Sal, which is definitely an improvement. (Saint Share, you may not be familiar with Stupid Sal, but she was renowned for being not only, well, stupid, but also for the sheer nastiness of her posts.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Share:  You are a gem of a human being.  I'm not sure what inspired you to write this, but you seem the least likely to hurt anyone's tender feelings.  Personally, mine are just me getting over myself.  It had to happen sometime.  No worries...FFL has the ability to absorb many perspectives, many emotions, many points of view.  I used to undergo days long shame attacks for some of the things I posted - I work to get over myself - it's not really all about me.  My posts never seemed to phase anyone else and often the exact right post would turn up to get me out of myself, my drama, etc. and give me a little perspective.  Or, they would pass into oblivion where they belonged.  As I say to myself...no need to personalize everything.  Far to tiring an MO.  All in a days work, so to speak.  So, I stopped taking myself quite so seriously and stopped worrying so much. Just scenes in a play really.  FFL may seem like a tough place, but really, not so much.  Child's play.  From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] to whom it may concern  This is an apology to anyone whose feelings tender heart I may have hurt. I'm willing to do what I can to make amends. And I'm doing my best to develop so that I don't continue hurting people knowingly or unknowingly. sigh, FFL is quite the heart workout. Who would have thought?!
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Buck...mending my ways and posting only photos of sattvic TMers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: snip I'm just fuckin' tired of Buck's act, when it swings prudish and Fundamentalist and nasty, as it just did. Buck has a tendency to dream up things that push *his* buttons, and then pretend that they push a lot of other people's buttons in Fairfield, the never-named, almost-certainly-imaginary people he interviews. I'm calling bullshit. Well Buck got you going here too Barry, buttons and all. I find it a little unlikely you are quite as offended as you are making it sound however, all sound and fury and all of that... Oh, but Ann, Barry's *very* sensitive. After all, he told Share he was more than a little tired of her creative editing observation when she made it for--wait for it-- the second time. So it doesn't take much to tire him out, you see. (He'll probably be very upset that you and I have ganged up on him here too. It's only he and his groupies who are allowed to pile on.) snip Meanwhile human sexuality lives on, and refuses to hide its head in shame because people like Buck think it should. What does sexuality's head look like by the way? LOL.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Yes, the ramifications of your pushing and posting things like that in a forum like this are great indeed. There's a cautionary tale for everyone. Yes, this is Buck the conservative meditator realizing that he was totally out of line making false accusation, but totally unable to own up to it, and so trying to make himself (and others) out to be a victim. Well done, Buck, the conservative meditator.
[FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: Your opinion is your own and everyone's personal opinion guides their interactions with others, or their lack of interaction with others, as the case may be. You and I disagree in our opinions re Sal; my remark was prompted by the fact that you brought Sal up for no purpose other than to bash her on this forum where she hasn't participated for quite some time and where many new folks, who have joined after she left, have no knowledge of her whatsoever . . . except, of course, now your malicious potshot at her in her absence. I was astonished at that. It's surprising to me, Marek, that you would object to Feste's post, given that we haven't heard a peep out of you when others have been maligned in their absence. And goodness knows you have no problem casting aspersions at people you refuse to name even though they're still here. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I stand by my comment. Stupid Sal was the nastiest poster on this forum by a country mile, and she was a careless, incompetent reader of the posts of others. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Why on earth would you gratuitously malign Sal, who no longer posts here, but who very well might continue to follow the posts on this forum? She was manifestly neither stupid nor nasty. Though she could be sharp in her comments, she was far less so than a couple of serial posters who are still here. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: It appears that Saint Share has emerged as our idol and role model here at FFL. My guess is that she has been sent, somewhat belatedly, by God as a replacement for Stupid Sal, which is definitely an improvement. (Saint Share, you may not be familiar with Stupid Sal, but she was renowned for being not only, well, stupid, but also for the sheer nastiness of her posts.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
We can agree to differ. If, as you suggest, Stupid Sal may be lurking here, she is free to delurk and reveal her stupidity and nastiness once more so we can all marvel at it. I brought her up because she came to mind as such a stark contrast to our newly arrived Saint Share, and I liked the alliterative ring of Saint Share vs. Stupid Sal. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: Your opinion is your own and everyone's personal opinion guides their interactions with others, or their lack of interaction with others, as the case may be. You and I disagree in our opinions re Sal; my remark was prompted by the fact that you brought Sal up for no purpose other than to bash her on this forum where she hasn't participated for quite some time and where many new folks, who have joined after she left, have no knowledge of her whatsoever . . . except, of course, now your malicious potshot at her in her absence. I was astonished at that. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I stand by my comment. Stupid Sal was the nastiest poster on this forum by a country mile, and she was a careless, incompetent reader of the posts of others. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Why on earth would you gratuitously malign Sal, who no longer posts here, but who very well might continue to follow the posts on this forum? She was manifestly neither stupid nor nasty. Though she could be sharp in her comments, she was far less so than a couple of serial posters who are still here. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: It appears that Saint Share has emerged as our idol and role model here at FFL. My guess is that she has been sent, somewhat belatedly, by God as a replacement for Stupid Sal, which is definitely an improvement. (Saint Share, you may not be familiar with Stupid Sal, but she was renowned for being not only, well, stupid, but also for the sheer nastiness of her posts.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Share:  You are a gem of a human being.  I'm not sure what inspired you to write this, but you seem the least likely to hurt anyone's tender feelings.  Personally, mine are just me getting over myself.  It had to happen sometime.  No worries...FFL has the ability to absorb many perspectives, many emotions, many points of view.  I used to undergo days long shame attacks for some of the things I posted - I work to get over myself - it's not really all about me.  My posts never seemed to phase anyone else and often the exact right post would turn up to get me out of myself, my drama, etc. and give me a little perspective.  Or, they would pass into oblivion where they belonged.  As I say to myself...no need to personalize everything.  Far to tiring an MO.  All in a days work, so to speak.  So, I stopped taking myself quite so seriously and stopped worrying so much. Just scenes in a play really.  FFL may seem like a tough place, but really, not so much.  Child's play.  From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] to whom it may concern  This is an apology to anyone whose feelings tender heart I may have hurt. I'm willing to do what I can to make amends. And I'm doing my best to develop so that I don't continue hurting people knowingly or unknowingly. sigh, FFL is quite the heart workout. Who would have thought?!
[FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: We can agree to differ. If, as you suggest, Stupid Sal may be lurking here, she is free to delurk and reveal her stupidity and nastiness once more so we can all marvel at it. I brought her up because she came to mind as such a stark contrast to our newly arrived Saint Share, and I liked the alliterative ring of Saint Share vs. Stupid Sal. It should be noted, by the way, that Feste and I are hardly the only folks here who do not have a high opinion of Sal. Sal typically sided with Barry and his groupies, which may give the newbies here a general idea of what kind of person she was. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Your opinion is your own and everyone's personal opinion guides their interactions with others, or their lack of interaction with others, as the case may be. You and I disagree in our opinions re Sal; my remark was prompted by the fact that you brought Sal up for no purpose other than to bash her on this forum where she hasn't participated for quite some time and where many new folks, who have joined after she left, have no knowledge of her whatsoever . . . except, of course, now your malicious potshot at her in her absence. I was astonished at that. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I stand by my comment. Stupid Sal was the nastiest poster on this forum by a country mile, and she was a careless, incompetent reader of the posts of others. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Why on earth would you gratuitously malign Sal, who no longer posts here, but who very well might continue to follow the posts on this forum? She was manifestly neither stupid nor nasty. Though she could be sharp in her comments, she was far less so than a couple of serial posters who are still here. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: It appears that Saint Share has emerged as our idol and role model here at FFL. My guess is that she has been sent, somewhat belatedly, by God as a replacement for Stupid Sal, which is definitely an improvement. (Saint Share, you may not be familiar with Stupid Sal, but she was renowned for being not only, well, stupid, but also for the sheer nastiness of her posts.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Share:  You are a gem of a human being.  I'm not sure what inspired you to write this, but you seem the least likely to hurt anyone's tender feelings.  Personally, mine are just me getting over myself.  It had to happen sometime.  No worries...FFL has the ability to absorb many perspectives, many emotions, many points of view.  I used to undergo days long shame attacks for some of the things I posted - I work to get over myself - it's not really all about me.  My posts never seemed to phase anyone else and often the exact right post would turn up to get me out of myself, my drama, etc. and give me a little perspective.  Or, they would pass into oblivion where they belonged.  As I say to myself...no need to personalize everything.  Far to tiring an MO.  All in a days work, so to speak.  So, I stopped taking myself quite so seriously and stopped worrying so much. Just scenes in a play really.  FFL may seem like a tough place, but really, not so much.  Child's play.  From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] to whom it may concern  This is an apology to anyone whose feelings tender heart I may have hurt. I'm willing to do what I can to make amends. And I'm doing my best to develop so that I don't continue hurting people knowingly or unknowingly. sigh, FFL is quite the heart workout. Who would have thought?!
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Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jul 28 00:00:00 2012 End Date (UTC): Sat Aug 04 00:00:00 2012 226 messages as of (UTC) Tue Jul 31 00:09:44 2012 21 Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 18 Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com 17 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com 17 Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 16 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 12 Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 11 authfriend jst...@panix.com 10 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com 10 awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com 9 sparaig lengli...@cox.net 9 merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com 9 Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com 8 iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com 8 Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net 7 Robert babajii...@yahoo.com 5 marekreavis reavisma...@sbcglobal.net 5 Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com 5 Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us 4 feste37 fest...@yahoo.com 4 emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com 4 John jr_...@yahoo.com 2 seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net 2 salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com 2 merlin vedamer...@yahoo.de 2 Susan waybac...@yahoo.com 2 Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 2 Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com 1 eustace10679 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 1 wle...@aol.com 1 Seraphita s3raph...@yahoo.com 1 Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com 1 JohnY john_youe...@comcast.net Posters: 32 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt the warmonger Romney is in favor of starting WWIII
Robert: Romney is a mouthpiece for the Neo-cons... Don't you just hate those Jews! For many voters, the perception that President Obama is cool toward Israel strengthens their suspicion that he is somehow cool toward traditional American values and that he is skeptical of the US assuming some kind of transformational world role. Anti-Israel equals pro-Jeremiah Wright. http://tinyurl.com/d35e3fs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
An awful lot of people are projecting their positivity onto me! It's a very odd experience. As for my apology, it was meant in general, just in case I had hurt someone's feelings. Really glad if it wasn't necessary. St. Shareji (-: From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 3:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern It appears that Saint Share has emerged as our idol and role model here at FFL. My guess is that she has been sent, somewhat belatedly, by God as a replacement for Stupid Sal, which is definitely an improvement. (Saint Share, you may not be familiar with Stupid Sal, but she was renowned for being not only, well, stupid, but also for the sheer nastiness of her posts.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Dear Share:  You are a gem of a human being.  I'm not sure what inspired you to write this, but you seem the least likely to hurt anyone's tender feelings.  Personally, mine are just me getting over myself.  It had to happen sometime.  No worries...FFL has the ability to absorb many perspectives, many emotions, many points of view.  I used to undergo days long shame attacks for some of the things I posted - I work to get over myself - it's not really all about me.  My posts never seemed to phase anyone else and often the exact right post would turn up to get me out of myself, my drama, etc. and give me a little perspective.  Or, they would pass into oblivion where they belonged.  As I say to myself...no need to personalize everything.  Far to tiring an MO.  All in a days work, so to speak.  So, I stopped taking myself quite so seriously and stopped worrying so much. Just scenes in a play really.  FFL may seem like a tough place, but really, not so much.  Child's play.  From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] to whom it may concern  This is an apology to anyone whose feelings tender heart I may have hurt. I'm willing to do what I can to make amends. And I'm doing my best to develop so that I don't continue hurting people knowingly or unknowingly. sigh, FFL is quite the heart workout. Who would have thought?!
[FairfieldLife] Great Compassion Mantra of Kwan Yin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Sy2LmvmYg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
You've set a high bar St. Shareji - all this unconditional love and stuff. It's simply shocking. Perhaps the ho'oponopono magic is working. I mean Barry actually wrote the word apologize - it's a first in my addled memory. Don't worry though, if a little negativity seeps in, or you hurt my feelings, I, for one, will forgive you on the spot. Thank you for being here. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern An awful lot of people are projecting their positivity onto me! It's a very odd experience. As for my apology, it was meant in general, just in case I had hurt someone's feelings. Really glad if it wasn't necessary. St. Shareji (-: From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 3:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern It appears that Saint Share has emerged as our idol and role model here at FFL. My guess is that she has been sent, somewhat belatedly, by God as a replacement for Stupid Sal, which is definitely an improvement. (Saint Share, you may not be familiar with Stupid Sal, but she was renowned for being not only, well, stupid, but also for the sheer nastiness of her posts.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Dear Share:  You are a gem of a human being.  I'm not sure what inspired you to write this, but you seem the least likely to hurt anyone's tender feelings.  Personally, mine are just me getting over myself.  It had to happen sometime.  No worries...FFL has the ability to absorb many perspectives, many emotions, many points of view.  I used to undergo days long shame attacks for some of the things I posted - I work to get over myself - it's not really all about me.  My posts never seemed to phase anyone else and often the exact right post would turn up to get me out of myself, my drama, etc. and give me a little perspective.  Or, they would pass into oblivion where they belonged.  As I say to myself...no need to personalize everything.  Far to tiring an MO.  All in a days work, so to speak.  So, I stopped taking myself quite so seriously and stopped worrying so much. Just scenes in a play really.  FFL may seem like a tough place, but really, not so much.  Child's play.  From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] to whom it may concern  This is an apology to anyone whose feelings tender heart I may have hurt. I'm willing to do what I can to make amends. And I'm doing my best to develop so that I don't continue hurting people knowingly or unknowingly. sigh, FFL is quite the heart workout. Who would have thought?!
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
The vain and the young may attend us awhile, But let not their flatt'ry our prudence beguile. Let's covet those charms that shall never decay; Nor listen to all that deceivers can say.
[FairfieldLife] Olympic Gold
Watching a Russian gymnastic girl, on the balance beam, I realized there should be a posthumous gold medal given to Gilda Radner for her performance as Nadia Comaneci.
[FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: An awful lot of people are projecting their positivity onto me! It's a very odd experience. As for my apology, it was meant in general, just in case I had hurt someone's feelings. Really glad if it wasn't necessary.  St. Shareji (-: Never apologize in advance. It can put you at a distinct disadvantage and deprive others of responsibility. Here I better put one of these :-) From: feste37 feste37@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 3:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern  It appears that Saint Share has emerged as our idol and role model here at FFL. My guess is that she has been sent, somewhat belatedly, by God as a replacement for Stupid Sal, which is definitely an improvement. (Saint Share, you may not be familiar with Stupid Sal, but she was renowned for being not only, well, stupid, but also for the sheer nastiness of her posts.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Share: àYou are a gem of a human being. àI'm not sure what inspired you to write this, but you seem the least likely to hurt anyone's tender feelings. àPersonally, mine are just me getting over myself. àIt had to happen sometime. àNo worries...FFL has the ability to absorb many perspectives, many emotions, many points of view. àI used to undergo days long shame attacks for some of the things I posted - I work to get over myself - it's not really all about me. àMy posts never seemed to phase anyone else and often the exact right post would turn up to get me out of myself, my drama, etc. and give me a little perspective. àOr, they would pass into oblivion where they belonged. àAs I say to myself...no need to personalize everything. àFar to tiring an MO. àAll in a days work, so to speak. àSo, I stopped taking myself quite so seriously and stopped worrying so much. Just scenes in a play really. àFFL may seem like a tough place, but really, not so much. àChild's play. àFrom: Share Long sharelong60@ To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] to whom it may concern àThis is an apology to anyone whose feelings tender heart I may have hurt.àI'm willing to do what I can to make amends.àAnd I'm doing my best to develop so that I don't continue hurting people knowingly or unknowingly.àsigh, FFL is quite the heart workout.àWho would have thought?!
[FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
There have been a few posts you have made that make me think I quite like you Feste. You strike me as your own person, a true individual. Always high marks in my book. And you're quite feisty. Maybe it should be Feisty37. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: I stand by my comment. Stupid Sal was the nastiest poster on this forum by a country mile, and she was a careless, incompetent reader of the posts of others. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Why on earth would you gratuitously malign Sal, who no longer posts here, but who very well might continue to follow the posts on this forum? She was manifestly neither stupid nor nasty. Though she could be sharp in her comments, she was far less so than a couple of serial posters who are still here. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: It appears that Saint Share has emerged as our idol and role model here at FFL. My guess is that she has been sent, somewhat belatedly, by God as a replacement for Stupid Sal, which is definitely an improvement. (Saint Share, you may not be familiar with Stupid Sal, but she was renowned for being not only, well, stupid, but also for the sheer nastiness of her posts.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Share:  You are a gem of a human being.  I'm not sure what inspired you to write this, but you seem the least likely to hurt anyone's tender feelings.  Personally, mine are just me getting over myself.  It had to happen sometime.  No worries...FFL has the ability to absorb many perspectives, many emotions, many points of view.  I used to undergo days long shame attacks for some of the things I posted - I work to get over myself - it's not really all about me.  My posts never seemed to phase anyone else and often the exact right post would turn up to get me out of myself, my drama, etc. and give me a little perspective.  Or, they would pass into oblivion where they belonged.  As I say to myself...no need to personalize everything.  Far to tiring an MO.  All in a days work, so to speak.  So, I stopped taking myself quite so seriously and stopped worrying so much. Just scenes in a play really.  FFL may seem like a tough place, but really, not so much.  Child's play.  From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] to whom it may concern  This is an apology to anyone whose feelings tender heart I may have hurt. I'm willing to do what I can to make amends. And I'm doing my best to develop so that I don't continue hurting people knowingly or unknowingly. sigh, FFL is quite the heart workout. Who would have thought?!
[FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
As far as FFL goes, I think you could have stopped after your first two words. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: Never apologize in advance. It can put you at a distinct disadvantage and deprive others of responsibility. Here I better put one of these :-) From: feste37 feste37@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 3:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern  It appears that Saint Share has emerged as our idol and role model here at FFL. My guess is that she has been sent, somewhat belatedly, by God as a replacement for Stupid Sal, which is definitely an improvement. (Saint Share, you may not be familiar with Stupid Sal, but she was renowned for being not only, well, stupid, but also for the sheer nastiness of her posts.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Share: àYou are a gem of a human being. àI'm not sure what inspired you to write this, but you seem the least likely to hurt anyone's tender feelings. àPersonally, mine are just me getting over myself. àIt had to happen sometime. àNo worries...FFL has the ability to absorb many perspectives, many emotions, many points of view. àI used to undergo days long shame attacks for some of the things I posted - I work to get over myself - it's not really all about me. àMy posts never seemed to phase anyone else and often the exact right post would turn up to get me out of myself, my drama, etc. and give me a little perspective. àOr, they would pass into oblivion where they belonged. àAs I say to myself...no need to personalize everything. àFar to tiring an MO. àAll in a days work, so to speak. àSo, I stopped taking myself quite so seriously and stopped worrying so much. Just scenes in a play really. àFFL may seem like a tough place, but really, not so much. àChild's play. àFrom: Share Long sharelong60@ To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] to whom it may concern àThis is an apology to anyone whose feelings tender heart I may have hurt.àI'm willing to do what I can to make amends.àAnd I'm doing my best to develop so that I don't continue hurting people knowingly or unknowingly.àsigh, FFL is quite the heart workout.àWho would have thought?!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt the warmonger Romney is in favor of starting WWIII
Barack Obama has been a true supporter of Israel... He's not 'cool' towards Israel and he's not 'cool' toward 'American Values'... Mitt Romney is a 'Gold Worshipper', so if that is an American Value, then he's it.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: Robert: Romney is a mouthpiece for the Neo-cons... Don't you just hate those Jews! For many voters, the perception that President Obama is cool toward Israel strengthens their suspicion that he is somehow cool toward traditional American values and that he is skeptical of the US assuming some kind of transformational world role. Anti-Israel equals pro-Jeremiah Wright. http://tinyurl.com/d35e3fs
[FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
Dear Marek, I have had some unsatisfying exchanges with the person who is the object of this controversy, and yet I understand the general principle of not speaking ill of othersespecially if they are not present to defend themselves. However, I note that you are determined to conceal the specific persons whom you deem, by implication, far more malicious and prejudiced than the person who has not posted for some time now. What I think dishonest and in bad faith is your refusal to take responsibility for naming the persons whom you believe deserve greater censure on this forum than the person whose name has been brought up. I think it cowardly for you to insinuate who these persons might be [I for one do not know to whom you are referring; I assume you have a more lengthy history at FFL than I do, and therefore a more seasoned perspective on the matter of who at FFL is nasty and who is not nasty] without actually naming them. And if someone is going to malign a person whom you feel does not deserve to be maligned, then either you make your judgments known (about who on FFL is worse than this person who remains silent and who is being maligned) or you make certain that in your reference to those who are greater offenders in this regard you avoid making it clear to certain posters on FFL just whom you mean. I sense you are getting away with something here which is undercutting the purported moral stand you have taken against the derogatory comments made by one poster here. I question whether you are, in good conscience, prepared to stand behind your judgment publicly. After all, you said you were the peace and love kind of guy to me, very scrupulously avoiding any sort of disclosure of those persons at FFL whom you believe harbour and express a violence that, in another context, can even lead to crime, including murder. I accuse you openly of refusing to come clean on this matter because of the personal politics of this affairYour party loyalties, which, as it would happen, do not entirely accord with a disinterested and objective determination of who is nasty and who is not nasty on FFL. If you were innocently and sincerely convinced that your predilections in this matter were subject only to a judgment independent of your implied friendship with certain persons on this forum, then you would be much more careful about making what are obvious insinuations, insinuations that the party to which you are loyal can infer exculpate them from being in that very category, and in fact feed their own assumptionsmisplaced as they areabout their own immunity to a judgment of being nasty and violent. Would you be interested in thrashing out this matter, or perhaps making your argument in the form of a legal brief? I will be the prosecutor, you will argue for the innocence of your clientyou being the that client. I would like to believe I am wrong about this, Marek, but I think you are double-dealing here and I don't like it. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: Why on earth would you gratuitously malign Sal, who no longer posts here, but who very well might continue to follow the posts on this forum? She was manifestly neither stupid nor nasty. Though she could be sharp in her comments, she was far less so than a couple of serial posters who are still here. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: It appears that Saint Share has emerged as our idol and role model here at FFL. My guess is that she has been sent, somewhat belatedly, by God as a replacement for Stupid Sal, which is definitely an improvement. (Saint Share, you may not be familiar with Stupid Sal, but she was renowned for being not only, well, stupid, but also for the sheer nastiness of her posts.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Share: Â You are a gem of a human being. Â I'm not sure what inspired you to write this, but you seem the least likely to hurt anyone's tender feelings. Â Personally, mine are just me getting over myself. Â It had to happen sometime. Â No worries...FFL has the ability to absorb many perspectives, many emotions, many points of view. Â I used to undergo days long shame attacks for some of the things I posted - I work to get over myself - it's not really all about me. Â My posts never seemed to phase anyone else and often the exact right post would turn up to get me out of myself, my drama, etc. and give me a little perspective. Â Or, they would pass into oblivion where they belonged. Â As I say to myself...no need to personalize everything. Â Far to tiring an MO. Â All in a days work, so to speak. Â So, I stopped taking myself quite so seriously and stopped worrying so much. Just scenes in a play really. Â FFL may seem like a tough place, but really, not so much. Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
I'm sure that would be an interesting discussion, Robin, and any number of folks here would be glad to have it with you. What I wrote to Feste was both simple and clear; there's no need to reiterate or argue. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: Dear Marek, I have had some unsatisfying exchanges with the person who is the object of this controversy, and yet I understand the general principle of not speaking ill of othersespecially if they are not present to defend themselves. However, I note that you are determined to conceal the specific persons whom you deem, by implication, far more malicious and prejudiced than the person who has not posted for some time now. What I think dishonest and in bad faith is your refusal to take responsibility for naming the persons whom you believe deserve greater censure on this forum than the person whose name has been brought up. I think it cowardly for you to insinuate who these persons might be [I for one do not know to whom you are referring; I assume you have a more lengthy history at FFL than I do, and therefore a more seasoned perspective on the matter of who at FFL is nasty and who is not nasty] without actually naming them. And if someone is going to malign a person whom you feel does not deserve to be maligned, then either you make your judgments known (about who on FFL is worse than this person who remains silent and who is being maligned) or you make certain that in your reference to those who are greater offenders in this regard you avoid making it clear to certain posters on FFL just whom you mean. I sense you are getting away with something here which is undercutting the purported moral stand you have taken against the derogatory comments made by one poster here. I question whether you are, in good conscience, prepared to stand behind your judgment publicly. After all, you said you were the peace and love kind of guy to me, very scrupulously avoiding any sort of disclosure of those persons at FFL whom you believe harbour and express a violence that, in another context, can even lead to crime, including murder. I accuse you openly of refusing to come clean on this matter because of the personal politics of this affairYour party loyalties, which, as it would happen, do not entirely accord with a disinterested and objective determination of who is nasty and who is not nasty on FFL. If you were innocently and sincerely convinced that your predilections in this matter were subject only to a judgment independent of your implied friendship with certain persons on this forum, then you would be much more careful about making what are obvious insinuations, insinuations that the party to which you are loyal can infer exculpate them from being in that very category, and in fact feed their own assumptionsmisplaced as they areabout their own immunity to a judgment of being nasty and violent. Would you be interested in thrashing out this matter, or perhaps making your argument in the form of a legal brief? I will be the prosecutor, you will argue for the innocence of your clientyou being the that client. I would like to believe I am wrong about this, Marek, but I think you are double-dealing here and I don't like it. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Why on earth would you gratuitously malign Sal, who no longer posts here, but who very well might continue to follow the posts on this forum? She was manifestly neither stupid nor nasty. Though she could be sharp in her comments, she was far less so than a couple of serial posters who are still here. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: It appears that Saint Share has emerged as our idol and role model here at FFL. My guess is that she has been sent, somewhat belatedly, by God as a replacement for Stupid Sal, which is definitely an improvement. (Saint Share, you may not be familiar with Stupid Sal, but she was renowned for being not only, well, stupid, but also for the sheer nastiness of her posts.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Share: Â You are a gem of a human being. Â I'm not sure what inspired you to write this, but you seem the least likely to hurt anyone's tender feelings. Â Personally, mine are just me getting over myself. Â It had to happen sometime. Â No worries...FFL has the ability to absorb many perspectives, many emotions, many points of view. Â I used to undergo days long shame attacks for some of the things I posted - I work to get over myself - it's not really all about me. Â My posts never seemed to phase anyone else and often the exact right post would turn up to get me out of myself, my drama, etc. and give me a little
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
Dear Share, I am doing this once again! While I am delighted to keep our conversation going, I do have the sense that you may not be investing in that conversation in quite the way that I am. I am attempting to be quite rigorous while at the same time maintaining the sense of a loving friendliness with you, since you are charming and intelligent enough to keep me talking. What I sense, Share, is that you have more or less written me off as someone with whom you are prepared to risk very much in terms of seeing just how far your beliefs will take you. That is, as I challenge those beliefs indirectly by my own hard-won convictions about matters pertaining to the human soul. I would not want to stop talking to you, Share, but is it not true that you are more interested in the warmth and cheer of our friendship than any really serious examination of 'what is real' and what is not so real? (This is said without an implied criticism whatsoever. I am biased towards a more intellectual approach to these things, and perhaps I am just giving away my own limitations here.) I don't want to seem supercilious or intellectually patrician, Share, but I sense that the give-and-take of our dialogue might be slackening into something that more resembles mere repartee during a coffee break as opposed to the more formal and aesthetically stringent Japanese tea ceremony (it was observed) we were once performing (at the beginning). I think the ritual is becoming perhaps a little too casual and spontaneous somehow, and the tea is getting a little weak. What say you, Share?Since I have only begun to initiate the canonization processand we have not yet heard from the advocatus diaboliI am reluctant to call you Saint Share (I won't use your Eastern appellation) yet.What say you to my sense that perhaps we should just post letters to each other at this point? [like this one] I am especially interested in the authenticity of the two miracles you are said to have performed (in order to have a Promoter of the Cause for your possibleI thought imminentSainthood). Last time you persuaded meas almost no one else could under those circumstancesto resume our conversation, and I am very glad you did, because I feel, right up to my last post to you, I have benefited from our conversation. But with your latest contribution, I feel perhaps we know each other and our respective beliefs to the point where there might not be sufficient creative (and loving) tension between us to justify perpetuating our colloquy. I feel I have been the beneficiary of your discerning heart, Shareand I note that you are getting a little uncomfortable at the speed with which the Church at FFL is bringing on your canonization. It seems, we sinners here at FFL need the example of a saint, so even if you are not, in your own estimation, quite up for the job, it will do the rest of us so much good to have someone we can look upon whospontaneously, naturallyjust tells us the sweet truth. I think I was expecting a little more Hegel and The Song of Sixpence. But you really are kind and good and very real, Share. Talk me out of this if that is the will of your Guardian Angel. You are an actual blessing for all of us on FFL. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Share3 who will be going to writing group this afternoon, then Release session with partner in Sydney, then Dome. So not at computer again til this evening. From: Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 3:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: snip Share2: Well it's ok RC but you do seem to contradict yourself in some subtle way. I can't speak to a Unity experience, but I can address the internal logic or absence thereof. You say it was not a personal desire. Then you say you forced Maharishi to commit himself. This sounds personal. Robin3:Personal coercion is just concentrated universal coercion. My dear Share: Pray, tell me what act that you have ever seen performed by a human being was not 'personal'? Tell me one. The sense I had was that the cosmic intelligence that was computing my actions was inexorably driving this show-down with Maharishi, and the personal Robin was just a witness to this drama. The cosmic intelligence in me was forcing the cosmic intelligence in Maharishi to commit himself. This sounds personal. Well *that* certainly--your comment--sounds personal. Because it *is* personal. But you see, Share, the intelligences behind making me enlightened--and, I would contend, making Maharishi enlightened--*these intelligences are very personal*. There is no impersonal intelligence or reality in the universe. *Everything is infinitely
