[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus on giving a mantra??

2015-02-08 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]

14 He who is sowing doth sow the word;

[FairfieldLife] Entitlement is not the same as Enlightenment

2015-02-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A Sunday morning cafe rant, just for the fun of it. Be warned. :-)

I did my weekly scan of The_Leak this morning as my Dutch cop friends have 
advised me to do, just to make sure that the weasel who created the group isn't 
still spouting libel about me. He doesn't seem to be, so it would seem that 
even the dumbest people can finally learn if you just hit them over the head 
with reality enough times. :-)

However, scanning a few of the posts quickly just to get a feel for what they 
talk about over there, it occurs to me that a few of them are still holding 
onto grudges and fostering the notion that they were pushed out of FFL and 
forced to create another group because Rick didn't protect them and their 
interests on FFL. 

This strikes me as so delusional I felt I should discuss it a bit. 

First, Fairfield Life was NEVER created for them, meaning as a place of 
refuge (the actual word that Buck used in one of his latest gripes) for TM True 
Believers. It's ASTOUNDING that anyone could *possibly* believe that. FFL has 
-- since Day One -- been the *opposite* of a refuge for TBs. Its charter is 
right there on the home page for all to see. It is *by design* a place where 
one has the right to challenge anything and discuss it. FFL was, in fact, 
created as an *alternative* to the TM movement itself, where you could get 
yourself excommunicated just for expressing criticism or doubt about the 
official TM dogma, Maharishi, or even TM itself. 

How did these bozos who are now holding court over on The_Leak *MISS THAT*? I 
mean, that defies belief. HOW did they come to believe that FFL was somehow 
created for *THEM*, and come to believe that if Rick allowed someone (anyone) 
to criticize or disbelieve the things they said, that he was somehow failing 
in his duties to protect them. 

It strikes me that the answer to this HOW question can be expressed in one 
word:

E N T I T L E M E N T

Long-term TMers feel *entitled* to believe the things they believe, and to 
claim the things they claim. 

They've been taught for decades, for example, that the *only* thing one has to 
do to be enlightened is CLAIM to be enlightened. They have furthermore been 
taught that when someone does claim to be enlightened, it's somehow rude or 
low-vibe or an actual *assault* of some kind to...uh...not believe them. 

That's insane. 

OF COURSE I don't believe that many of the people who claimed to be enlightened 
on FFL actually were. Duh. All you have to do is look at the way they lead 
their lives and watch the ways that they overreact to someone doubting their 
claims to tell that they're not enlightened. 

But they feel ENTITLED to make these claims, and furthermore they feel ENTITLED 
to make them without anyone being *allowed* to call them on how ridiculous the 
claims actually are. 

Well, now they've got their own playground, where they can claim anything they 
want, and the audience will just go Wow, and no one will ever ask them to 
back up anything they claim. It's like they've managed to create the ultimate 
sandbox for overly-entitled children. And I say Fine, and wish them well with 
it, if they're so shallow that that kind of environment actually appeals to 
them. 

But I *DO* wonder WHY -- now that they've got this fairy-tale world where they 
can spin their fairy tales all day long and no one will ever call them on them 
and point out that they *are* fairy tales -- WHY they spend so much time still 
bitching about how they were persecuted back on FFL? And how Rick failed to 
protect them there. It's like they're still looking to get someone to 
*apologize* for not buying their bullshit. 

It's all very weird, if you ask me. They've finally got all the ENTITLEMENT 
they ever wanted, and they want even more. Go figure...





[FairfieldLife] Jesus on giving a mantra??

2015-02-08 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
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[FairfieldLife] Is Religion Evil?

2015-02-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A good question. And IMO a fairly good essay pondering it. Now the question 
will be whether the believers here in religion can discuss it rationally or 
whether they lose their minds and lash out, thus (dare I say it) answering the 
question fairly clearly. 

http://www.salon.com/2015/02/07/is_religion_evil_weighing_centuries_of_war_body_counts_abuse/



[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditating to music

2015-02-08 Thread srijau
I have met him - long ago as a very young person and more recently listened to 
his music. It isn't beyond what TM offers. Why do people like you even such say 
these things when you most likely have no idea what you are talking about.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus on giving a mantra??

2015-02-08 Thread srijau
thanks for posting is it from Scripture or what is the reference?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Elk running away from Y-stone!!

2015-02-08 Thread srijau
that was urgently  almost a year ago. kinda like the guy who said that he was 
coming back right away within one generation- 2000 years ago.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Medical News Today: Could meditation reduce brain aging?

2015-02-08 Thread srijau
It is really embarrassing when you quote these studies that not done on TM and 
then vice versa you call others on quoting TM studies for their Mindfulness 
thingy or whatnot. I'm ashamed for you really.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Orthorexics of the world, unite! (and feel guilty about your lunch)

2015-02-08 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
84% of Vegetarians and Vegans Return to Meat. Why? 
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201412/84-vegetarians-and-vegans-return-meat-why
 
 
 
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 Animal activists should emphasize reduction, not elimination, of eating meat.
 
 
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote :

 I went the vegetarian route for many years, but after I graduated MIU, and got 
into the real world, I realized I needed animal protein to survive. 

 Now, sugar is a different matter.
 

 I think that is an outright addiction at this point.
 

 On the other hand, I have loved candy and sweets, pretty much from day one.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 Dr. Pietro Rotondi (1892-1985), became a vegetarian (vegan with the exception 
of honey) in 1919 and was a practicing chiropractor and naturopath in Los 
Angeles, California, until his passing.
http://drpietrorotondi.org/

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 
 Be very careful about posting this sort of information on FFL! Most of the 
informants here may not be ready to hear about the pundit boys taking aspirin 
for headaches. LoL!

[FairfieldLife] I Was a WillyTex Virgin [Re: Drug-Dependent Pundits Riot] 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Speaking of aspirin.  I could have sworn someone on FFL posted a link to Dr. 
Nancy Lonsdor recommending it to we aging meditators and siddhas along with 
using Turmeric.  In other words, don't just rely on doing program to keep it 
together.

  









[FairfieldLife] Re: Rosie Success

2015-02-08 Thread srijau
she disrespected the Guru as YOU well know, that doesn't turn out well.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rosie Success

2015-02-08 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 she disrespected the Guru as YOU well know, that doesn't turn out well.
 

 Dude, can you get into the habit of clicking on the show message history at 
the bottom so we know what post you are responding to.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Global warming biggest science scandal ever-paper.

2015-02-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

Yabut you probably don't want the smog to be as thick as London fog do ya?

On 02/08/2015 07:59 AM, wgm4u wrote:



  The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever


New data shows that the “vanishing” of polar ice is not the result
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By Christopher Booker 
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10:15PM GMT 07 Feb 2015

Comments1628 Comments 
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When future generations look back on the global-warming scare of the 
past 30 years, nothing will shock them more than the extent to which 
the official temperature records – on which the entire panic 
ultimately rested – were systematically “adjusted” to show the Earth 
as having warmed much more than the actual data justified.


Two weeks ago, under the headline “How we are being tricked by flawed 
data on global warming” 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11367272/Climategate-the-sequel-How-we-are-STILL-being-tricked-with-flawed-data-on-global-warming.html, 
I wrote about Paul Homewood, who, on his Notalotofpeopleknowthat blog, 
had checked the published temperature graphs for three weather 
stations in Paraguay against the temperatures that had originally been 
recorded. In each instance, the actual trend of 60 years of data had 
been dramatically reversed, so that a cooling trend was changed to one 
that showed a marked warming.


This was only the latest of many examples of a practice long 
recognised by expert observers around the world – one that raises an 
ever larger question mark over the entire official surface-temperature 
record.


Following my last article, Homewood checked a swathe of other South 
American weather stations around the original three. In each case he 
found the same suspicious one-way “adjustments”. First these were made 
by the US government’s Global Historical Climate Network (GHCN). They 
were then amplified by two of the main official surface records, the 
Goddard Institute for Space Studies (Giss) and the National Climate 
Data Center (NCDC), which use the warming trends to estimate 
temperatures across the vast regions of the Earth where no 
measurements are taken. Yet these are the very records on which 
scientists and politicians rely for their belief in “global warming”.


Homewood has now turned his attention to the weather stations across 
much of the Arctic, between Canada (51 degrees W) and the heart of 
Siberia (87 degrees E). Again, in nearly every case, the same one-way 
adjustments have been made, to show warming up to 1 degree C or more 
higher than was indicated by the data that was actually recorded. This 
has surprised no one more than Traust Jonsson, who was long in charge 
of climate research for the Iceland met office (and with whom Homewood 
has been in touch). Jonsson was amazed to see how the new version 
completely “disappears” Iceland’s “sea ice years” around 1970, when a 
period of extreme cooling almost devastated his country’s economy.



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One of the first examples of these “adjustments” was exposed in 2007 
by the statistician Steve McIntyre, when he discovered a paper 
published in 1987 by James Hansen, the scientist (later turned 
fanatical climate activist) who for many years ran Giss. Hansen’s 
original graph showed temperatures in the Arctic as having been much 
higher around 1940 than at any time since. But as Homewood reveals in 
his blog post, “Temperature adjustments transform Arctic history”, 
Giss has turned this upside down. Arctic temperatures from that time 
have been lowered so much that that they are now dwarfed by those of 
the past 20 years.


Homewood’s interest in 

[FairfieldLife] Britons lead the way!

2015-02-08 Thread salyavin808
Once again we show our pioneering spirit and willingness to explore. I'd ever 
heard of this site and so conclude that a great many others hadn't. So I 
predict the figure of one million will rise rather a lot this week
 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Disbelief in Seattle

2015-02-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Actually sometime in the early afternoon yesterday there was a deluge 
for a few minutes.  On Sunday's I usually go to the Farmer's Market 
downtown but I'm betting that half the vendors didn't show and the last 
time I was there during a deluge they had a tough time keeping the 
booths from blowing away.  Also my friends, who didn't even venture out 
on sunny Saturday, definitely won't today.  There was a slight break 
between 10-11 AM and I've been watching the radar maps and could see the 
one that just hit was offshore over an hour ago. Looks like the storm 
will be over by 2 PM but so will the Market.


Coming from Seattle and driving an AWD vehicle I can handle the rain but 
the other folks can't and you can't do anything about trees due to fall 
over.  Though I have to say that PGE did do some tree work around town 
to prevent them from bringing down power lines plus they've been putting 
in new poles and using better insulators to keep the lines from falling 
onto the street if the pole starts to tilt.


Just read I can now text 911 in this town (which is good for fallen 
power lines) and that it is one of the first cities in California that 
offers the option.


On 02/08/2015 11:01 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Very wet and rainy here today.  But it's not as windy as Friday.  I 
still believe my neighbor's tall tree is going to fall if the rain 
keeps up.  The tree is getting water logged and it might break at 
midlevel.



I was going to have lunch at this Indian restaurant at Geary Blvd. 
 But it's too wet to venture out.  So, I'll just cook my own lunch 
today with the lemonade I made from the fruits of the lemon tree from 
my garden.


Yeah, it was fair yesterday.  It gave me an opportunity to chop the 
tree limbs that fell on the yard.  Then I gave the remains to the 
gardener who was, fortunately for me, working at my neighbor's yard.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

And today is sunny and warm but tomorrow is supposed to be back to the 
monsoon. However Starbucks raised their prices and hangout friends are 
getting too old to venture out unless it is really good weather (don't 
know why they didn't today).


On 02/06/2015 02:06 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:



Yup, it's quite windy and rainy here.  My neighbors have two tall
fir trees but I doubt if they will blow over.  I don't have any
trees tall enough to be a concern.  Seems like mother nature is
trying to make up for the drought again.

On 02/06/2015 01:10 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:


It's windy over here in SF right now.  A few minutes ago I
noticed that my neighbor's tall tree broke one of it's branches
and fell on my backyard.  I'm afraid the top of the tree might
break too if the wind keeps up.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@...
mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

I think when I lived in Mill Valley from the fall of 1969 to
early 1970 the Golden Gate Bridge toll may have been only 25
cents!  BART was an idea on the design boards.  And my new
neighbor had wound up shooting scenes to his movie in an under
construction bore of the Caldecott tunnel (which only got it's
much needed 4th bore a little over a year ago).

On 02/06/2015 10:21 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:


That was a bold way to quit a job.  Good for you.  Also, Mill
Valley is still a nice place to live.  However, the housing
prices in that town have increased many fold since you left.
 Tiburon is a nice town too.  I like to take friends there a
this restaurant where you can dine al fresco in the back
overlooking the docks.


When I crossed the Golden Gate Bridge about two years ago, I
paid $5.00 for the weekend toll.  It's probably higher now.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@...
mailto:richard@... wrote :

In1968 we got a job house-sitting in SF on Sacramento St. - 
two bedroom flat - and the use of a classic Morgan parked in a

space next door. We were right around the corner from China
Town half way up Nob Hill. Sweet! I used to walk to work at
Pacific National Life on California Street where I was a
graphic artist. I used to use a AM VariTyper word processor for
justified typesetting.

Varityper http://site.xavier.edu/polt/typewriters/varityper.html



image http://site.xavier.edu/polt/typewriters/varityper.html


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VarityperThe Varityper (also known as the Vari-Typer or
VariTyper) was a highly ingenious word processor of the
pre-digital age.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Disbelief in Seattle

2015-02-08 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Very wet and rainy here today.  But it's not as windy as Friday.  I still 
believe my neighbor's tall tree is going to fall if the rain keeps up.  The 
tree is getting water logged and it might break at midlevel. 

 I was going to have lunch at this Indian restaurant at Geary Blvd.  But it's 
too wet to venture out.  So, I'll just cook my own lunch today with the 
lemonade I made from the fruits of the lemon tree from my garden.
 

 Yeah, it was fair yesterday.  It gave me an opportunity to chop the tree limbs 
that fell on the yard.  Then I gave the remains to the gardener who was, 
fortunately for me, working at my neighbor's yard.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 And today is sunny and warm but tomorrow is supposed to be back to the 
monsoon.  However Starbucks raised their prices and hangout friends are getting 
too old to venture out unless it is really good weather (don't know why they 
didn't today).
 
 On 02/06/2015 02:06 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   
 Yup, it's quite windy and rainy here.  My neighbors have two tall fir trees 
but I doubt if they will blow over.  I don't have any trees tall enough to be a 
concern.  Seems like mother nature is trying to make up for the drought again.
 
 On 02/06/2015 01:10 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   It's windy over here in SF right now.  A few minutes ago I noticed that my 
neighbor's tall tree broke one of it's branches and fell on my backyard.  I'm 
afraid the top of the tree might break too if the wind keeps up.

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 I think when I lived in Mill Valley from the fall of 1969 to early 1970 the 
Golden Gate Bridge toll may have been only 25 cents!  BART was an idea on the 
design boards.  And my new neighbor had wound up shooting scenes to his movie 
in an under construction bore of the Caldecott tunnel (which only got it's much 
needed 4th bore a little over a year ago).
 
 On 02/06/2015 10:21 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
   That was a bold way to quit a job.  Good for you.  Also, Mill Valley is 
still a nice place to live.  However, the housing prices in that town have 
increased many fold since you left.  Tiburon is a nice town too.  I like to 
take friends there a this restaurant where you can dine al fresco in the back 
overlooking the docks.
 

 When I crossed the Golden Gate Bridge about two years ago, I paid $5.00 for 
the weekend toll.  It's probably higher now.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
richard@... mailto:richard@... wrote :
 
 In1968 we got a job house-sitting in SF on Sacramento St. -  two bedroom flat 
- and the use of a classic Morgan parked in a space next door. We were right 
around the corner from China Town half way up Nob Hill. Sweet! I used to walk 
to work at Pacific National Life on California Street where I was a graphic 
artist. I used to use a AM VariTyper word processor for justified typesetting. 
 
 Varityper http://site.xavier.edu/polt/typewriters/varityper.html 
 
 
 
 Varityper VarityperThe Varityper (also known as the Vari-Typer or VariTyper) 
was a highly ingenious word processor of the pre-digital age.


 
 View on site.xavier.edu 
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 Later we moved to Mill Valley and I had to take the bus across the Golden Gate 
Bridge. So, one spring day on a Friday I resolved to quit my job and so on 
Friday at noon I told my supervisor, the short, fat, bald-headed guy that 
smoked  cigar, that I was going to lunch, and I never went back! LoL! 
 
 In Marin I worked on the five Marin County Newspapers such as the Mill Valley 
News and the Tiburon Pelican. We loved living in The City at that time but we 
were glad to get to the country. One guy I knew lived in San Rafael but worked 
in Berkely - he had to buy a bus-pass off the top of his paycheck every month 
just to get to work. He said it sucked.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote :
 
 I try not to cross the Bay Bridge, or any of the bridges or freeways in the SF 
Bay Area, during the commute hours.  We're glad you made it back home in one 
piece. 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 I made a little trip today down to Mountain View to a little company whose 
name starts with G.  I don't know whether they will make it or not.
 
 Anyway this was kinda last minute and there was fog all the way down 680 until 
just past Fremont.  Such fun.  Then I notice they now have tool HOV lanes 
although with the fog cleared there was not much advantage since it was after 
rush hour.  I would hate to make that commute everyday but people do.
 
 On 02/03/2015 12:55 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rosie Success

2015-02-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
That show is in trouble (along with a lot of network TV).  Why?  Their 
audience is dying off and younger folks don't watch TV.


On 02/08/2015 07:11 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
I still want to know what guru sri is referring to - if Marshy, it 
would be impossible for Rosie to have insulted him, since he was a 
liar and a fraud and not a real guru, unless you consider he was guru 
to his junior hucksters like Bevan, Tony and Johnnie Hagelin who 
learned to be hucksters at his knee.



*From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, February 8, 2015 8:23 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Rosie Success




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :



she disrespected the Guru as YOU well know, that doesn't turn out well.

Dude, can you get into the habit of clicking on the show message 
history at the bottom so we know what post you are responding to.








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Orthorexics of the world, unite! (and feel guilty about your lunch)

2015-02-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
The ND that told me I was already anemic from trying a vegetarian diet 
for about 2 weeks told me to have some fish or chicken 2 or 3 times a 
week.  That's all.


Some of the TM folks who called themselves vegetarians actually just 
gave up red meat.  They thought they were being vegetarians still eating 
fish or chicken.


Some of the things that the metabolic typing people learned back in the 
1970s was that if you are young you can do a vegetarian diet more easily 
than when old.  A younger body can withstand adverse dietary changes 
than an older body.  And then we have the older folks who have never 
done anything than eat reg'lar food all their lives and decide to try 
being a vegetarian.  They feel good for a while but after a couple years 
the body starts to suffer.  My sister think my brother-in-law vegetarian 
regime spared kept his heart attack  from being fatal.  I, on the other 
hand, think he had the heart attack as a result of his vegie diet.  
Besides he just excluded meat (except for egg whites) and was eating too 
many carbs.


On the Thom Hartmann message board we have ideological vegetarians who 
insist that the whole planet should go vegan.  I stir them up by telling 
them that nutrition is not an ideology.  They hate the biological 
individuality notion and accuse me of being with the cattle industry.  
One day I mentioned that they never asked me which of two groups, carb 
type or protein type, I belonged too. They were startled to learn that I 
was a carb type.  And they got a rebuke from one of the moderators for 
their goofiness.  I think the woman who was insisting on vegetarianism 
is of Russian Jewish descent and probably doesn't know her ancestors had 
to survive (if they were poor which they probably were) on buckwheat and 
a little scraps of fish.  Genetically she can do better than most 
northern Europeans on a vegetarian diet.  She probably has a much slower 
metabolism.


A local building contractor advocates the Mediterranean Diet.  For him 
sure, he came here with his parents from Sicily when he was 4 years old. 
:-)




On 02/08/2015 03:18 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


84% of Vegetarians and Vegans Return to Meat. Why? 
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201412/84-vegetarians-and-vegans-return-meat-why





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84% of Vegetarians and Vegans Return to Meat. Why? 
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201412/84-vegetarians-and-vegans-return-meat-why 

Animal activists should emphasize reduction, not elimination, of 
eating meat.


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I went the vegetarian route for many years, but after I graduated MIU, 
and got into the real world, I realized I needed animal protein to 
survive.


Now, sugar is a different matter.

I think that is an outright addiction at this point.

On the other hand, I have loved candy and sweets, pretty much from day 
one.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

Dr. Pietro Rotondi (1892-1985), became a vegetarian (vegan with the 
exception of honey) in 1919 and was a practicing chiropractor and 
naturopath in Los Angeles, California, until his passing.

http://drpietrorotondi.org/

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Be very careful about posting this sort of information on FFL! Most of 
the informants here may not be ready to hear about the pundit boys 
taking aspirin for headaches. LoL!


[FairfieldLife] I Was a WillyTex Virgin [Re: Drug-Dependent Pundits 
Riot] 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg170833.html 





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Speaking of aspirin.  I could have sworn 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rosie Success

2015-02-08 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I still want to know what guru sri is referring to - if Marshy, it would be 
impossible for Rosie to have insulted him, since he was a liar and a fraud and 
not a real guru, unless you consider he was guru to his junior hucksters like 
Bevan, Tony and Johnnie Hagelin who learned to be hucksters at his knee.

  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 8:23 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rosie Success
   
    


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[FairfieldLife] Global warming biggest science scandal ever-paper.

2015-02-08 Thread wgm4u


 The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever New 
data shows that the “vanishing” of polar ice is not the result of runaway 
global warming 
 
 

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 The “vanishing” of polar ice (and the polar bears) has become a poster-child 
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 By Christopher Booker
 
 10:15PM GMT 07 Feb 2015
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html#disqus_thread
 
 
 
 When future generations look back on the global-warming scare of the past 30 
years, nothing will shock them more than the extent to which the official 
temperature records – on which the entire panic ultimately rested – were 
systematically “adjusted” to show the Earth as having warmed much more than the 
actual data justified. 

 Two weeks ago, under the headline “How we are being tricked by flawed data on 
global warming”, I wrote about Paul Homewood, who, on his 
Notalotofpeopleknowthat blog, had checked the published temperature graphs for 
three weather stations in Paraguay against the temperatures that had originally 
been recorded. In each instance, the actual trend of 60 years of data had been 
dramatically reversed, so that a cooling trend was changed to one that showed a 
marked warming. 

 This was only the latest of many examples of a practice long recognised by 
expert observers around the world – one that raises an ever larger question 
mark over the entire official surface-temperature record. 

 Following my last article, Homewood checked a swathe of other South American 
weather stations around the original three. In each case he found the same 
suspicious one-way “adjustments”. First these were made by the US government’s 
Global Historical Climate Network (GHCN). They were then amplified by two of 
the main official surface records, the Goddard Institute for Space Studies 
(Giss) and the National Climate Data Center (NCDC), which use the warming 
trends to estimate temperatures across the vast regions of the Earth where no 
measurements are taken. Yet these are the very records on which scientists and 
politicians rely for their belief in “global warming”. 

 Homewood has now turned his attention to the weather stations across much of 
the Arctic, between Canada (51 degrees W) and the heart of Siberia (87 degrees 
E). Again, in nearly every case, the same one-way adjustments have been made, 
to show warming up to 1 degree C or more higher than was indicated by the data 
that was actually recorded. This has surprised no one more than Traust Jonsson, 
who was long in charge of climate research for the Iceland met office (and with 
whom Homewood has been in touch). Jonsson was amazed to see how the new version 
completely “disappears” Iceland’s “sea ice years” around 1970, when a period of 
extreme cooling almost devastated his country’s economy. 

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 23 Jan 2015 Rise in sea levels is 'faster than we thought' 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/climatechange/11346154/Rise-in-sea-levels-is-faster-than-we-thought.html
 
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 One of the first examples of these “adjustments” was exposed in 2007 by the 
statistician Steve McIntyre, when he discovered a paper published in 1987 by 
James Hansen, the scientist (later turned fanatical climate activist) who for 
many years ran Giss. Hansen’s original graph showed temperatures in the Arctic 
as having been much higher around 1940 than at any time since. But as Homewood 
reveals in his blog post, “Temperature adjustments transform Arctic history”, 
Giss has turned this upside down. Arctic temperatures from that time have been 
lowered so much that that they are now dwarfed by those of the past 20 years. 
 Homewood’s interest in the Arctic is partly because the “vanishing” of its 
polar ice (and the polar bears) has become such a poster-child for those trying 
to persuade us that we are threatened by runaway warming. But he chose that 
particular stretch of the Arctic because it is where ice is affected by warmer 
water brought in by cyclical shifts in a major Atlantic current – this last 
peaked at just the time 75 years ago when Arctic ice retreated even further 
than it has done recently. The ice-melt is not caused by rising global 
temperatures at all. 
 Of much more serious significance, however, is the way this wholesale 
manipulation of the official temperature record – for reasons GHCN and Giss 
have never plausibly explained – has become the real elephant in the room of 
the greatest and most costly scare the world has known. This really does begin 
to look like one of the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rosie Success

2015-02-08 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
which Guru? 

  From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 7:46 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rosie Success
   
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[FairfieldLife] Very possibly the best accepting-an-award speech ever given. Ever.

2015-02-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Grammys 2015: Transcript of Bob Dylan's MusiCares Person of Year speech

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Entitlement is not the same as Enlightenment

2015-02-08 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry,  

 Excuse me for pointing this out, but I think the proper name for this post 
should properly be, 
 

 Bashing Withdrawal
 

 But. But.,more importantly, what can we do to remedy this?
 

 No one responded to my suggestion for a POB Day.
 

 Would a straw-man day be better?
 

 Maybe we can go back into the archives to find his best SM arguments,
 

 Just askin'  (-:
 

 

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 A Sunday morning cafe rant, just for the fun of it. Be warned. :-)

I did my weekly scan of The_Leak this morning as my Dutch cop friends have 
advised me to do, just to make sure that the weasel who created the group isn't 
still spouting libel about me. He doesn't seem to be, so it would seem that 
even the dumbest people can finally learn if you just hit them over the head 
with reality enough times. :-)

However, scanning a few of the posts quickly just to get a feel for what they 
talk about over there, it occurs to me that a few of them are still holding 
onto grudges and fostering the notion that they were pushed out of FFL and 
forced to create another group because Rick didn't protect them and their 
interests on FFL. 

This strikes me as so delusional I felt I should discuss it a bit. 

First, Fairfield Life was NEVER created for them, meaning as a place of 
refuge (the actual word that Buck used in one of his latest gripes) for TM True 
Believers. It's ASTOUNDING that anyone could *possibly* believe that. FFL has 
-- since Day One -- been the *opposite* of a refuge for TBs. Its charter is 
right there on the home page for all to see. It is *by design* a place where 
one has the right to challenge anything and discuss it. FFL was, in fact, 
created as an *alternative* to the TM movement itself, where you could get 
yourself excommunicated just for expressing criticism or doubt about the 
official TM dogma, Maharishi, or even TM itself. 

How did these bozos who are now holding court over on The_Leak *MISS THAT*? I 
mean, that defies belief. HOW did they come to believe that FFL was somehow 
created for *THEM*, and come to believe that if Rick allowed someone (anyone) 
to criticize or disbelieve the things they said, that he was somehow failing 
in his duties to protect them. 

It strikes me that the answer to this HOW question can be expressed in one 
word:

E N T I T L E M E N T

Long-term TMers feel *entitled* to believe the things they believe, and to 
claim the things they claim. 

They've been taught for decades, for example, that the *only* thing one has to 
do to be enlightened is CLAIM to be enlightened. They have furthermore been 
taught that when someone does claim to be enlightened, it's somehow rude or 
low-vibe or an actual *assault* of some kind to...uh...not believe them. 

That's insane. 

OF COURSE I don't believe that many of the people who claimed to be enlightened 
on FFL actually were. Duh. All you have to do is look at the way they lead 
their lives and watch the ways that they overreact to someone doubting their 
claims to tell that they're not enlightened. 

But they feel ENTITLED to make these claims, and furthermore they feel ENTITLED 
to make them without anyone being *allowed* to call them on how ridiculous the 
claims actually are. 

Well, now they've got their own playground, where they can claim anything they 
want, and the audience will just go Wow, and no one will ever ask them to 
back up anything they claim. It's like they've managed to create the ultimate 
sandbox for overly-entitled children. And I say Fine, and wish them well with 
it, if they're so shallow that that kind of environment actually appeals to 
them. 

But I *DO* wonder WHY -- now that they've got this fairy-tale world where they 
can spin their fairy tales all day long and no one will ever call them on them 
and point out that they *are* fairy tales -- WHY they spend so much time still 
bitching about how they were persecuted back on FFL? And how Rick failed to 
protect them there. It's like they're still looking to get someone to 
*apologize* for not buying their bullshit. 

It's all very weird, if you ask me. They've finally got all the ENTITLEMENT 
they ever wanted, and they want even more. Go figure...



 








Re: [FairfieldLife] Britons lead the way!

2015-02-08 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ah excellent! We see that we can count on the Scorpions to lead the way in all 
things sattvic. No doubt due to the Skelmersdale and Rendlesham siddhas and 
yagyas and what not.

  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 1:48 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Britons lead the way!
   
    Once again we show our pioneering spirit and willingness to explore. I'd 
ever heard of this site and so conclude that a great many others hadn't. So I 
predict the figure of one million will rise rather a lot this week
If your partner is visiting this website, they're probably cheating on you
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Global warming biggest science scandal ever-paper.

2015-02-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 Yabut you drove your car to the Farmers Market just to get some unsulphured 
raisins. Go figure.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 Yabut you probably don't want the smog to be as thick as London fog do ya?
 
 On 02/08/2015 07:59 AM, wgm4u wrote:
 
   

 The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever New 
data shows that the “vanishing” of polar ice is not the result of runaway 
global warming 
 
 

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 The “vanishing” of polar ice (and the polar bears) has become a poster-child 
for warmists. Photo: ALAMY





 
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/
 By Christopher Booker

 10:15PM GMT 07 Feb 2015
 1628 Comments
 

 When future generations look back on the global-warming scare of the past 30 
years, nothing will shock them more than the extent to which the official 
temperature records – on which the entire panic ultimately rested – were 
systematically “adjusted” to show the Earth as having warmed much more than the 
actual data justified.

 Two weeks ago, under the headline “How we are being tricked by flawed data on 
global warming”, I wrote about Paul Homewood, who, on his 
Notalotofpeopleknowthat blog, had checked the published temperature graphs for 
three weather stations in Paraguay against the temperatures that had originally 
been recorded. In each instance, the actual trend of 60 years of data had been 
dramatically reversed, so that a cooling trend was changed to one that showed a 
marked warming.

 This was only the latest of many examples of a practice long recognised by 
expert observers around the world – one that raises an ever larger question 
mark over the entire official surface-temperature record.

 Following my last article, Homewood checked a swathe of other South American 
weather stations around the original three. In each case he found the same 
suspicious one-way “adjustments”. First these were made by the US government’s 
Global Historical Climate Network (GHCN). They were then amplified by two of 
the main official surface records, the Goddard Institute for Space Studies 
(Giss) and the National Climate Data Center (NCDC), which use the warming 
trends to estimate temperatures across the vast regions of the Earth where no 
measurements are taken. Yet these are the very records on which scientists and 
politicians rely for their belief in “global warming”.

 Homewood has now turned his attention to the weather stations across much of 
the Arctic, between Canada (51 degrees W) and the heart of Siberia (87 degrees 
E). Again, in nearly every case, the same one-way adjustments have been made, 
to show warming up to 1 degree C or more higher than was indicated by the data 
that was actually recorded. This has surprised no one more than Traust Jonsson, 
who was long in charge of climate research for the Iceland met office (and with 
whom Homewood has been in touch). Jonsson was amazed to see how the new version 
completely “disappears” Iceland’s “sea ice years” around 1970, when a period of 
extreme cooling almost devastated his country’s economy.

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 14 Jan 2015 
 One of the first examples of these “adjustments” was exposed in 2007 by the 
statistician Steve McIntyre, when he discovered a paper published in 1987 by 
James Hansen, the scientist (later turned fanatical climate activist) who for 
many years ran Giss. Hansen’s original graph showed temperatures in the Arctic 
as having been much higher around 1940 than at any time since. But as Homewood 
reveals in his blog post, “Temperature adjustments transform Arctic history”, 
Giss has turned this upside down. Arctic temperatures from that time have been 
lowered so much that that they are now dwarfed by those of the past 20 years.
 Homewood’s interest in the Arctic is partly because the “vanishing” of its 
polar ice (and the polar bears) has become such a poster-child for those trying 
to persuade us that we are threatened by runaway warming. But he chose that 
particular stretch of the Arctic because it is where ice is affected by warmer 
water brought in by cyclical shifts in a major Atlantic current – this last 
peaked at just the time 75 years ago when Arctic ice retreated even further 
than it has done recently. The ice-melt is not caused by rising global 
temperatures at all.
 Of much more serious significance, however, is the way this wholesale 
manipulation of the official temperature record – for reasons GHCN and Giss 
have never plausibly explained – has become the real elephant in the room of 
the greatest and most costly scare the world has known. This really does begin 
to look like one of the greatest scientific scandals of 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Global warming biggest science scandal ever-paper.

2015-02-08 Thread ultrarishi
Ah, yes... The Daily Telegraph.  Quoting Wikipedia:


 In June 2014, The Telegraph was criticised by Private Eye 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Eye for its policy of replacing 
experienced journalists and news managers with less-experienced staff and 
Search Engine Optimisers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEO[18] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Telegraph#cite_note-18 On 10 September 
2014, the Telegraph Media Group advertised in the Daily Telegraph for a new 
Head of Interactive Journalism stating candidates should have demonstrable 
interest in news and journalism (previous newsroom experience is not needed 
however).[19] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Telegraph#cite_note-19
 In July 2014, the Daily Telegraph was further criticised for carrying links on 
its website to pro-Kremlin articles supplied by a Russian state-funded 
publication that downplayed any Russian involvement in the downing of the 
passenger jet Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17.[20] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Telegraph#cite_note-20 These had 
featured on its website as part of a commercial deal, but were later 
removed.[21] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Telegraph#cite_note-21 The 
paper is paid £900,000 a year to include the supplement Russia Beyond the 
Headlines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_Beyond_the_Headlines, a 
publication sponsored by the Rossiyskaya Gazeta 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rossiyskaya_Gazeta, the Russian government's 
official newspaper. It is paid a further £750,000 a year for a similar 
arrangement with the Chinese state in relation to the pro-Beijing China Watch 
supplement.[22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Telegraph#cite_note-22
 Political stance The Daily Telegraph has been politically conservative in 
modern times.[23] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Telegraph#cite_note-slate-23 The 
personal links between the paper's editors and the leadership of the 
Conservative Party http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_%28UK%29, 
along with the paper's generally right wing 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics stance and influence over 
Conservative activists, have resulted in the paper commonly being referred to, 
especially in Private Eye http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Eye, as the 
Torygraph.[23] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Telegraph#cite_note-slate-23 Even when 
Conservative support was shown to have slumped in the opinion polls and Labour 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_%28UK%29 became ascendant in them 
(particularly when leader Tony Blair http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Blair 
rebranded the party as New Labour http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Labour; on 
becoming leader after the death of John Smith 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Smith_%28Labour_Party_leader%29 in 1994), the 
newspaper remained loyal to the Conservatives. This loyalty continued after 
Labour ousted the Conservatives from power by a landslide election result in 
1997 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_1997, and in 
the face of Labour election wins in 2001 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2001 and the 
third successive Labour election win in 2005 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2005.;
 

 In other words, this article is Right Wing Link Bait.  It's like getting cell 
phone voice mail tips from Murcoch;s defunct The News of the World.
 

 And while I'm quoting Wikipedia here is a quote from there on Christopher 
Booker:
 

 Christopher John Penrice Booker (born 7 October 1937) is an English 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalist 
and author. In 1961, he was one of the founders of the magazine Private Eye 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Eye, and has contributed to it since then. 
He has been a columnist for The Sunday Telegraph 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sunday_Telegraph since 1990.[1] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Booker#cite_note-1 He has taken a 
stance which runs counter to the scientific consensus on a number of issues, 
including global warming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming, the link 
between passive smoking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_smoking and 
cancer,[2] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Booker#cite_note-passivesmoking-2 and 
the dangers posed by asbestos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestos.[3] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Booker#cite_note-3 In 2009, he 
published The Real Global Warming Disaster 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Global_Warming_Disaster.;
 
Douche-baggery!
 

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Entitlement is not the same as Enlightenment

2015-02-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 What I'm talking about is slowly lifting up off the sofa and sitting
in midair for two to three minutes. Or stepping up off the ground in
the desert and then flying around several feet above the ground for 
a while. - TurquoiseBee

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 A Sunday morning cafe rant, just for the fun of it. Be warned. :-)

I did my weekly scan of The_Leak this morning as my Dutch cop friends have 
advised me to do, just to make sure that the weasel who created the group isn't 
still spouting libel about me. He doesn't seem to be, so it would seem that 
even the dumbest people can finally learn if you just hit them over the head 
with reality enough times. :-)

However, scanning a few of the posts quickly just to get a feel for what they 
talk about over there, it occurs to me that a few of them are still holding 
onto grudges and fostering the notion that they were pushed out of FFL and 
forced to create another group because Rick didn't protect them and their 
interests on FFL. 

This strikes me as so delusional I felt I should discuss it a bit. 

First, Fairfield Life was NEVER created for them, meaning as a place of 
refuge (the actual word that Buck used in one of his latest gripes) for TM True 
Believers. It's ASTOUNDING that anyone could *possibly* believe that. FFL has 
-- since Day One -- been the *opposite* of a refuge for TBs. Its charter is 
right there on the home page for all to see. It is *by design* a place where 
one has the right to challenge anything and discuss it. FFL was, in fact, 
created as an *alternative* to the TM movement itself, where you could get 
yourself excommunicated just for expressing criticism or doubt about the 
official TM dogma, Maharishi, or even TM itself. 

How did these bozos who are now holding court over on The_Leak *MISS THAT*? I 
mean, that defies belief. HOW did they come to believe that FFL was somehow 
created for *THEM*, and come to believe that if Rick allowed someone (anyone) 
to criticize or disbelieve the things they said, that he was somehow failing 
in his duties to protect them. 

It strikes me that the answer to this HOW question can be expressed in one 
word:

E N T I T L E M E N T

Long-term TMers feel *entitled* to believe the things they believe, and to 
claim the things they claim. 

They've been taught for decades, for example, that the *only* thing one has to 
do to be enlightened is CLAIM to be enlightened. They have furthermore been 
taught that when someone does claim to be enlightened, it's somehow rude or 
low-vibe or an actual *assault* of some kind to...uh...not believe them. 

That's insane. 

OF COURSE I don't believe that many of the people who claimed to be enlightened 
on FFL actually were. Duh. All you have to do is look at the way they lead 
their lives and watch the ways that they overreact to someone doubting their 
claims to tell that they're not enlightened. 

But they feel ENTITLED to make these claims, and furthermore they feel ENTITLED 
to make them without anyone being *allowed* to call them on how ridiculous the 
claims actually are. 

Well, now they've got their own playground, where they can claim anything they 
want, and the audience will just go Wow, and no one will ever ask them to 
back up anything they claim. It's like they've managed to create the ultimate 
sandbox for overly-entitled children. And I say Fine, and wish them well with 
it, if they're so shallow that that kind of environment actually appeals to 
them. 

But I *DO* wonder WHY -- now that they've got this fairy-tale world where they 
can spin their fairy tales all day long and no one will ever call them on them 
and point out that they *are* fairy tales -- WHY they spend so much time still 
bitching about how they were persecuted back on FFL? And how Rick failed to 
protect them there. It's like they're still looking to get someone to 
*apologize* for not buying their bullshit. 

It's all very weird, if you ask me. They've finally got all the ENTITLEMENT 
they ever wanted, and they want even more. Go figure...



 




  


[FairfieldLife] Re: Entitlement is not the same as Enlightenment

2015-02-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

Maybe we can go back into the archives...

Let me start:

Life as an expatriate is interesting.  You live in a foreign country, among
people whose language, if you are as lazy as I am, you do not speak well enough
to express even a fraction of the things that are on your mind.  You live among
people whose customs are all different from those you grew up with.  They eat
different foods, have different forms of social interaction, hold different —
sometimes *very* different — things sacred than you do.  And, as an American
living in their country, you try to learn from these people you meet, try to
add to the sum of your knowledge and expand your own view of planet Earth to
encompass theirs.

But sometimes — I'll be honest — it gets to you. 

From: Uncle Tantra
Subject: Mr. Natural Is Alive and Well and Living in France
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: 2003-10-28 08:13:47 PST
http://tinyurl.com/oo7pbcf http://tinyurl.com/oo7pbcf  
Maybe he thinks Judy is still reading his messages. Maybe he misses getTING 
beat up and getting attention by pushing buttons. Maybe he is just lonely. Some 
people just feel better when they have someone to talk to. 

It's probably very lonely over there, being a single expat that can't speak 
their language. Maybe he feels left out and rejected. Maybe this is just about 
all he has left. It's obvious he wrote this on a Saturday night.

In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 A Sunday morning cafe rant, just for the fun of it. Be warned. :-)

I did my weekly scan of The_Leak this morning as my Dutch cop friends have 
advised me to do, just to make sure that the weasel who created the group isn't 
still spouting libel about me. He doesn't seem to be, so it would seem that 
even the dumbest people can finally learn if you just hit them over the head 
with reality enough times. :-)

However, scanning a few of the posts quickly just to get a feel for what they 
talk about over there, it occurs to me that a few of them are still holding 
onto grudges and fostering the notion that they were pushed out of FFL and 
forced to create another group because Rick didn't protect them and their 
interests on FFL. 

This strikes me as so delusional I felt I should discuss it a bit. 

First, Fairfield Life was NEVER created for them, meaning as a place of 
refuge (the actual word that Buck used in one of his latest gripes) for TM True 
Believers. It's ASTOUNDING that anyone could *possibly* believe that. FFL has 
-- since Day One -- been the *opposite* of a refuge for TBs. Its charter is 
right there on the home page for all to see. It is *by design* a place where 
one has the right to challenge anything and discuss it. FFL was, in fact, 
created as an *alternative* to the TM movement itself, where you could get 
yourself excommunicated just for expressing criticism or doubt about the 
official TM dogma, Maharishi, or even TM itself. 

How did these bozos who are now holding court over on The_Leak *MISS THAT*? I 
mean, that defies belief. HOW did they come to believe that FFL was somehow 
created for *THEM*, and come to believe that if Rick allowed someone (anyone) 
to criticize or disbelieve the things they said, that he was somehow failing 
in his duties to protect them. 

It strikes me that the answer to this HOW question can be expressed in one 
word:

E N T I T L E M E N T

Long-term TMers feel *entitled* to believe the things they believe, and to 
claim the things they claim. 

They've been taught for decades, for example, that the *only* thing one has to 
do to be enlightened is CLAIM to be enlightened. They have furthermore been 
taught that when someone does claim to be enlightened, it's somehow rude or 
low-vibe or an actual *assault* of some kind to...uh...not believe them. 

That's insane. 

OF COURSE I don't believe that many of the people who claimed to be enlightened 
on FFL actually were. Duh. All you have to do is look at the way they lead 
their lives and watch the ways that they overreact to someone doubting their 
claims to tell that they're not enlightened. 

But they feel ENTITLED to make these claims, and furthermore they feel ENTITLED 
to make them without anyone being *allowed* to call them on how ridiculous the 
claims actually are. 

Well, now they've got their own playground, where they can claim anything they 
want, and the audience will just go Wow, and no one will ever ask them to 
back up anything they claim. It's like they've managed to create the ultimate 
sandbox for overly-entitled children. And I say Fine, and wish them well with 
it, if they're so shallow that that kind of environment actually appeals to 
them. 

But I *DO* wonder WHY -- now that they've got this fairy-tale world where they 
can spin their fairy tales all day long and no one will ever call them on them 
and point out that they *are* fairy tales -- WHY they spend so much time 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rosie Success

2015-02-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 Non sequitur. The average American watches 5 hours of TV per day.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 That show is in trouble (along with a lot of network TV).  Why?  Their 
audience is dying off and younger folks don't watch TV.
 
 On 02/08/2015 07:11 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   I still want to know what guru sri is referring to - if Marshy, it would be 
impossible for Rosie to have insulted him, since he was a liar and a fraud and 
not a real guru, unless you consider he was guru to his junior hucksters like 
Bevan, Tony and Johnnie Hagelin who learned to be hucksters at his knee.
 
 
 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 8:23 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rosie Success
 
 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 
 
 

 she disrespected the Guru as YOU well know, that doesn't turn out well.

 

 Dude, can you get into the habit of clicking on the show message history at 
the bottom so we know what post you are responding to.




 
 







 
 

  


[FairfieldLife] Re: Entitlement is not the same as Enlightenment

2015-02-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 A Sunday morning cafe rant, just for the fun of it. Be warned. :-)

I did my weekly scan of The_Leak this morning as my Dutch cop friends have 
advised me to do, just to make sure that the weasel who created the group isn't 
still spouting libel about me...

It's probably not all that complicated. Sure they didn't like what you wrote 
about the babies, but after your photo got posted, maybe now they just don't 
like your face. 

It's all very weird, if you ask me. They've finally got all the ENTITLEMENT 
they ever wanted, and they want even more. Go figure...

It's not really weird at all - not for nothing did you use to call yourself 
Uncle Tantra. LoL!



 






[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Religion Evil?

2015-02-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Nazis. I hate those guys. The fact is, some people just need killin’. Nazis 
and Islamists are in that class, and deserve to be treated accordingly. When 
you kill enough, the rest skulk off and pretend they never believed the stuff 
they were shouting, and doing, when they could get away with it.

Sultan Knish: The Ghosts of Auschwitz in the Middle East 
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2015/02/the-ghosts-of-auschwitz-in-middle-east.html
 
 
 
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2015/02/the-ghosts-of-auschwitz-in-middle-east.html
 
 
 Sultan Knish: The Ghosts of Auschwitz in the Middle East 
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2015/02/the-ghosts-of-auschwitz-in-middle-east.html
 In exile in Argentina, the world’s most wanted man was writing a defense of 
the indefensible. 
 
 
 
 View on sultanknish.blogspo... 
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2015/02/the-ghosts-of-auschwitz-in-middle-east.html
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 If you wanted rational responses to the article then take a look at the 
comments below it which seem fairly sensible on the whole. 

 Re the quote: “Good people will do good things, and bad people will do bad 
things. But for good people to do bad things—that takes religion.”  Good people 
do bad things because they've been bewitched by an ideology - religious or 
anti-religious or simply political. Surely most of those who committed vile 
acts in advancing the cause of Communism thought themselves to be acting for 
the greater good? Once you believe you and your comrades have The Truth then it 
doesn't take long before you regard your opponents as either idiots or evil. 
Which is to say not fully human. The rest follows.
 

 When it comes to making a final tally of religious versus atheist atrocities 
it's hard to evaluate. Most people will come down on the side which conforms 
best with their personal prejudices.
 

 By the way: Hitler was no Christian. Goebbels wrote in  his diary in 1941 that 
Hitler hates Christianity, because it has crippled all that is noble in 
humanity. That attitude was bog standard amongst fascists including Italians 
and Germans. They looked back nostalgically to the pre-Christian pagan world. 
Any nice things Hitler said in public about the Christian churches was purely 
for pragmatic, propaganda value. The Fuhrer didn't fool you did he? :-)
 

  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 A good question. And IMO a fairly good essay pondering it. Now the question 
will be whether the believers here in religion can discuss it rationally or 
whether they lose their minds and lash out, thus (dare I say it) answering the 
question fairly clearly. 

 

 
http://www.salon.com/2015/02/07/is_religion_evil_weighing_centuries_of_war_body_counts_abuse/
 
http://www.salon.com/2015/02/07/is_religion_evil_weighing_centuries_of_war_body_counts_abuse/
 

 









[FairfieldLife] Re: Rosie Success

2015-02-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 she disrespected the Guru as YOU well know, that doesn't turn out well.
 

 Dude, can you get into the habit of clicking on the show message history at 
the bottom so we know what post you are responding to.

Are you a retard? The subject line says Rosie. LoL!






[FairfieldLife] Re: Orthorexics of the world, unite! (and feel guilty about your lunch)

2015-02-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 In fairness to these souls, sometimes you don't quite know the thing you are 
afraid of. Fear is fear itself. For some people, gluten is their fear of the 
unknown, which is also a thing that certainly is in bread and makes you chubs.

Want to Watch Gluten-Free People Define Gluten? 
http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/05/want-to-watch-gluten-free-people-define-gluten.html
 
 
 
http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/05/want-to-watch-gluten-free-people-define-gluten.html
 
 
 Want to Watch Gluten-Free People Define Gluten? 
http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/05/want-to-watch-gluten-free-people-define-gluten.html
 You do.
 
 
 
 View on nymag.com 
http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/05/want-to-watch-gluten-free-people-define-gluten.html
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 I went the vegetarian route for many years, but after I graduated MIU, and got 
into the real world, I realized I needed animal protein to survive. 

 Now, sugar is a different matter.
 

 I think that is an outright addiction at this point.
 

 On the other hand, I have loved candy and sweets, pretty much from day one.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 Dr. Pietro Rotondi (1892-1985), became a vegetarian (vegan with the exception 
of honey) in 1919 and was a practicing chiropractor and naturopath in Los 
Angeles, California, until his passing.
http://drpietrorotondi.org/

Play on! Pietro Rotondi
Rotundi - Play On http://youtu.be/GCOhMca3zVU 
 
 http://youtu.be/GCOhMca3zVU
 
 Rotundi - Play On http://youtu.be/GCOhMca3zVU Rotundi - Play On - 1988 Paul 
Lacques - drums Peter Curry - bass guitar Peter Lacques - guitar Mike Rose - 
saxaphone Ray Symszyck - mandolin and trumpet...


 
 View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/GCOhMca3zVU
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 
 Be very careful about posting this sort of information on FFL! Most of the 
informants here may not be ready to hear about the pundit boys taking aspirin 
for headaches. LoL!

[FairfieldLife] I Was a WillyTex Virgin [Re: Drug-Dependent Pundits Riot] 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg170833.html 
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg170833.html
 
 [FairfieldLife] I Was a WillyTex Virgin [Re:... 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg170833.html One 
of the advantages of e-discussion over verbal discussion is that there is a 
record of participants' approaches to argument. Advertising


 
 View on www.mail-archive.com 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg170833.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Speaking of aspirin.  I could have sworn someone on FFL posted a link to Dr. 
Nancy Lonsdor recommending it to we aging meditators and siddhas along with 
using Turmeric.  In other words, don't just rely on doing program to keep it 
together.

  







  


[FairfieldLife] Re: Entitlement is not the same as Enlightenment

2015-02-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
 
It's all very weird, if you ask me. They've finally got all the ENTITLEMENT 
they ever wanted, and they want even more. Go figure...

I figure that you should do all things with kindness you fucker. LoL!



 






[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Religion Evil?

2015-02-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
...perhaps it is Obama who should avoid getting on his high horse, since 
according to recently published statistics, Obama’s drone campaign has killed 
more people during the six years of his presidency than were killed the 350 
years of the Spanish Inquisition.

Obama’s Drones Have Killed More Than the Spanish Inquisition 
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/02/07/obamas-drones-have-killed-more-than-the-spanish-inquisition/
 
 
 
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/02/07/obamas-drones-have-killed-more-than-the-spanish-inquisition/
 
 
 Obama’s Drones Have Killed More Than the Spanish Inqu... 
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/02/07/obamas-drones-have-killed-more-than-the-spanish-inquisition/
 Controversy still swirls around Obama's comments during the National Prayer 
Breakfast this week, where he chastised Christians for getting on their 'high 
ho...
 
 
 
 View on pjmedia.com 
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/02/07/obamas-drones-have-killed-more-than-the-spanish-inquisition/
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 A good question. And IMO a fairly good essay pondering it. Now the question 
will be whether the believers here in religion can discuss it rationally or 
whether they lose their minds and lash out, thus (dare I say it) answering the 
question fairly clearly. 

 

 
http://www.salon.com/2015/02/07/is_religion_evil_weighing_centuries_of_war_body_counts_abuse/
 
http://www.salon.com/2015/02/07/is_religion_evil_weighing_centuries_of_war_body_counts_abuse/
 

 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Religion Evil?

2015-02-08 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
If you wanted rational responses to the article then take a look at the 
comments below it which seem fairly sensible on the whole. 

 Re the quote: “Good people will do good things, and bad people will do bad 
things. But for good people to do bad things—that takes religion.”  Good people 
do bad things because they've been bewitched by an ideology - religious or 
anti-religious or simply political. Surely most of those who committed vile 
acts in advancing the cause of Communism thought themselves to be acting for 
the greater good? Once you believe you and your comrades have The Truth then it 
doesn't take long before you regard your opponents as either idiots or evil. 
Which is to say not fully human. The rest follows.
 

 When it comes to making a final tally of religious versus atheist atrocities 
it's hard to evaluate. Most people will come down on the side which conforms 
best with their personal prejudices.
 

 By the way: Hitler was no Christian. Goebbels wrote in  his diary in 1941 that 
Hitler hates Christianity, because it has crippled all that is noble in 
humanity. That attitude was bog standard amongst fascists including Italians 
and Germans. They looked back nostalgically to the pre-Christian pagan world. 
Any nice things Hitler said in public about the Christian churches was purely 
for pragmatic, propaganda value. The Fuhrer didn't fool you did he? :-)
 

  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 A good question. And IMO a fairly good essay pondering it. Now the question 
will be whether the believers here in religion can discuss it rationally or 
whether they lose their minds and lash out, thus (dare I say it) answering the 
question fairly clearly. 

 

 
http://www.salon.com/2015/02/07/is_religion_evil_weighing_centuries_of_war_body_counts_abuse/
 
http://www.salon.com/2015/02/07/is_religion_evil_weighing_centuries_of_war_body_counts_abuse/
 

 







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rosie Success

2015-02-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 One thing is for sure:

You will never set a table in the MUM dinning room ever again because you got 
kicked out for being a loser. Deal with it.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 I still want to know what guru sri is referring to - if Marshy, it would be 
impossible for Rosie to have insulted him, since he was a liar and a fraud and 
not a real guru, unless you consider he was guru to his junior hucksters like 
Bevan, Tony and Johnnie Hagelin who learned to be hucksters at his knee.
 

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 8:23 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rosie Success
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 


 she disrespected the Guru as YOU well know, that doesn't turn out well.

 

 Dude, can you get into the habit of clicking on the show message history at 
the bottom so we know what post you are responding to.