Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chocolate is for life

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Aldi's stores are small, and located in predominately lower income areas, but 
not exclusively. 

 You have to bring your own bag, and you have to pay for a cart, $0.25.
 

 They are actually encroaching into higher income areas, and they have a weekly 
flier with a different super bargain(s) advertised.
 

 A couple years ago I bought a generator there which I have in the garage in 
case of an emergency.
 

 Yes,  you never would have guessed that Trader Joe's and Aldi's were first 
cousins, so to speak.  And yes, those little cash boxes are a riot.  Not much 
of a step up from a lemonade stand type set up.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 How big are the stores?  They don't look that big and sort of remind of the 
Grocery Outlet which are franchises and a different kind of model selling near 
pull date and overstock items at a reduced price.   Trader Joe's only likes to 
put their stores in areas where the populace is more highly educated.  Same 
true with Aldi's? Trader Joe's remind me of the co-ops of the 1970s and seem to 
have a very flat organizational structure.
 
 On 02/23/2016 06:21 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   They have funny signs throughout the stores and cashiers use little cash 
boxes to make your change.  

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 They're opening their first California store next month in Southern California.
 https://www.aldi.us/en/new-to-aldi/california-grand-opening/ 
https://www.aldi.us/en/new-to-aldi/california-grand-opening/
 
 On 02/23/2016 05:00 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   OMG, Aldi's has been a presence here for years, and they are on an expansion 
binge.
 

 
 


 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chocolate is for life

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

How big are the stores?  They don't look that big and sort of remind of 
the Grocery Outlet which are franchises and a different kind of model 
selling near pull date and overstock items at a reduced price.   Trader 
Joe's only likes to put their stores in areas where the populace is more 
highly educated.  Same true with Aldi's? Trader Joe's remind me of the 
co-ops of the 1970s and seem to have a very flat organizational structure.


On 02/23/2016 06:21 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


They have funny signs throughout the stores and cashiers use little 
cash boxes to make your change.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

They're opening their first California store next month in Southern 
California.

https://www.aldi.us/en/new-to-aldi/california-grand-opening/

On 02/23/2016 05:00 PM, steve.sundur@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:



OMG, Aldi's has been a presence here for years, and they are on
an expansion binge.

[FairfieldLife] Trip to Mars in 3 Days

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

NASA may have the know-how to do this.  But it would still need federal funds 
to build such a machine.  Also, NASA might not be ready to land people there or 
even live there.
 

 NASA is working on tech that could enable trips to Mars in just 3 days 
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/nasa-working-tech-could-enable-trips-mars-just-052524595.html

 
 
 
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/nasa-working-tech-could-enable-trips-mars-just-052524595.html
 
 
 NASA is working on tech that could enable trips to Mars ... 
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/nasa-working-tech-could-enable-trips-mars-just-052524595.html
 Among the many problems with manned missions to Mars is the amount of time it 
takes for any ship to get to the red planet. Current estimates are that it 
would take ...
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chocolate is for life

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

They have funny signs throughout the stores and cashiers use little cash boxes 
to make your change.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 They're opening their first California store next month in Southern California.
 https://www.aldi.us/en/new-to-aldi/california-grand-opening/ 
https://www.aldi.us/en/new-to-aldi/california-grand-opening/
 
 On 02/23/2016 05:00 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   OMG, Aldi's has been a presence here for years, and they are on an expansion 
binge.
 

 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chocolate is for life

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well, that's also the key to IKEA's success.  Everything, as far as I can see, 
is IKEA Brand, including 60 watt LED bulbs for around $1.00 ea.  Or at least 
that's what they seemed to be during their pre-opening sale.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Doing your own house label eliminates the middle man and thus allowing for 
lower prices.  There was also the UK chain Fresh and Easy which didn't work out 
around here.
  
 On 02/23/2016 05:00 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   OMG, Aldi's has been a presence here for years, and they are on an expansion 
binge.
 
 
 Of course, everything they have is private label, which is key to their 
success and profit.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 I didn't know there were any Aldi's in the US but did know the Trader Joe's 
connection.  In fact it Shemp (remember him) who pointed it out years ago on 
FFL.  The things we learn here.
 
 Talk of the day is Starbucks changing their rewards policy.  I knew this was 
coming as they had me do one of their "15 minute" surveys last year where they 
raised the idea.  Of course that survey took more like a half hour and they 
probably threw mine out because I know too much how this all works from their 
side of the counter (and mentioned it).  I figure they've been having problems 
for several years because the breakfast goodies have shrunk in size and finally 
raised in price.  I even made jokes about them serving "breakfast sliders" or 
charging $2.50 for a bitesize muffin.  Then they raised prices when coffee 
beans went up but didn't lower them when the price of beans came down. 
 
 The rewards thing I understand partly as it was even their staff who told me 
to order my drink separately and the breakfast item separately.  That way you 
got a reward for each.  Problem was though it didn't happen often were the 
people who were ordering for "the whole office".  Yeah, you would go into 
Starbucks and there would one person in line in front of you then all of a 
sudden they would pull out a long list.  I would often just leave at that 
point.  But they could also put each drink on a separate charge to get more 
rewards.
 
 So now the rewards program is going to be 2 rewards points per $1 spent.  BUT, 
it will take 125 points to get a freebie of any item on the menu (currently it 
is 12 reward points).  During winter I would get one of their expensive 
breakfast sandwiches for free.  Summer might often be a reserve premium roast 
clover drink venti size for the freebie.  Those can run $5 or more.
 
 I've also been told that their new mobile order program backs things up too. 
This new program goes into effect in April.
 
 But I bet it will mean the locally run coffee bars will start doing more 
business.  They just better get their act together.
 
 On 02/22/2016 08:02 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   In our case we have both Aldi's and Trader Joe's.  On Valentine's Day, I 
went to the wholesale florist on florist row which is not too far from home.  
They had "grab and go" roses for $24.00/12.  I debated a while, and then 
decided I'd try Aldi's where I've gotten them in the past.  Sure enough, they 
had as nice a bunch of roses as the florist for about $12.95/12. 
 
 
 And yes, their $2.00 chocolate bar is exceptional, in my opinion.
 
 
 We just don't get to Trader Joe's much.  It's a little out of the way.  She 
has a different local, upscale grocer that she likes, that is closer.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 Aldi in the US is Trader Joe's.  I often get by the local one about 6 miles 
away once a month.  I like their dark chocolate bar with is around $2. Also our 
regional grocery chain Raley's, tries to compete with some of their own label 
and yesterday noticed they have launched a line of dark chocolate bars 
including one with espresso in it.  Basically they are cutting out "middle men" 
in doing this so that prices can stay lower.  They have their own line of chips 
and their "Ruffles" like potato chip is the most popular and often out of 
stock.  Lay's prices are much higher like on average $3 for a bag of "Ruffles" 
whereas the house brand is only $2.
 
 On 02/21/2016 07:38 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
 
   They do have Aldi in the States. 
 

 I live in London and I've *never* seen one of their stores. Lidl (also a 
German cut-price supermarket) is far more common here.
 

 Yank chocolate isn't bad but it's not a patch on UK chocolate.
 

 Can the Aldi brand really compare with Cadbury's milk chocolate?

 



 
 



 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chocolate is for life

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

They're opening their first California store next month in Southern 
California.

https://www.aldi.us/en/new-to-aldi/california-grand-opening/

On 02/23/2016 05:00 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


OMG, Aldi's has been a presence here for years, and they are on an 
expansion binge.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chocolate is for life

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Doing your own house label eliminates the middle man and thus allowing 
for lower prices.  There was also the UK chain Fresh and Easy which 
didn't work out around here.


On 02/23/2016 05:00 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


OMG, Aldi's has been a presence here for years, and they are on an 
expansion binge.



Of course, everything they have is private label, which is key to 
their success and profit.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I didn't know there were any Aldi's in the US but did know the Trader 
Joe's connection.  In fact it Shemp (remember him) who pointed it out 
years ago on FFL. The things we learn here.


Talk of the day is Starbucks changing their rewards policy.  I knew 
this was coming as they had me do one of their "15 minute" surveys 
last year where they raised the idea.  Of course that survey took more 
like a half hour and they probably threw mine out because I know too 
much how this all works from their side of the counter (and mentioned 
it).  I figure they've been having problems for several years because 
the breakfast goodies have shrunk in size and finally raised in 
price.  I even made jokes about them serving "breakfast sliders" or 
charging $2.50 for a bitesize muffin.  Then they raised prices when 
coffee beans went up but didn't lower them when the price of beans 
came down.


The rewards thing I understand partly as it was even their staff who 
told me to order my drink separately and the breakfast item 
separately.  That way you got a reward for each. Problem was though it 
didn't happen often were the people who were ordering for "the whole 
office".  Yeah, you would go into Starbucks and there would one person 
in line in front of you then all of a sudden they would pull out a 
long list.  I would often just leave at that point.  But they could 
also put each drink on a separate charge to get more rewards.


So now the rewards program is going to be 2 rewards points per $1 
spent.  BUT, it will take 125 points to get a freebie of any item on 
the menu (currently it is 12 reward points). During winter I would get 
one of their expensive breakfast sandwiches for free. Summer might 
often be a reserve premium roast clover drink venti size for the 
freebie.  Those can run $5 or more.


I've also been told that their new mobile order program backs things 
up too. This new program goes into effect in April.


But I bet it will mean the locally run coffee bars will start doing 
more business.  They just better get their act together.


On 02/22/2016 08:02 PM, steve.sundur@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:



In our case we have both Aldi's and Trader Joe's.  On Valentine's
Day, I went to the wholesale florist on florist row which is not
too far from home.  They had "grab and go" roses for $24.00/12.
 I debated a while, and then decided I'd try Aldi's where I've
gotten them in the past.  Sure enough, they had as nice a bunch
of roses as the florist for about $12.95/12.

And yes, their $2.00 chocolate bar is exceptional, in my opinion.

We just don't get to Trader Joe's much.  It's a little out of the
way.  She has a different local, upscale grocer that she likes,
that is closer.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

Aldi in the US is Trader Joe's.  I often get by the local one
about 6 miles away once a month.  I like their dark chocolate bar
with is around $2. Also our regional grocery chain Raley's, tries
to compete with some of their own label and yesterday noticed
they have launched a line of dark chocolate bars including one
with espresso in it. Basically they are cutting out "middle men"
in doing this so that prices can stay lower.  They have their own
line of chips and their "Ruffles" like potato chip is the most
popular and often out of stock.  Lay's prices are much higher
like on average $3 for a bag of "Ruffles" whereas the house brand
is only $2.

On 02/21/2016 07:38 PM, s3raphita@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:


They do have Aldi in the States.


I live in London and I've *never* seen one of their stores. Lidl
(also a German cut-price supermarket) is far more common here.

Yank chocolate isn't bad but it's not a patch on UK chocolate.

Can the Aldi brand really compare with Cadbury's milk chocolate?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chocolate is for life

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

OMG, Aldi's has been a presence here for years, and they are on an expansion 
binge. 

 Of course, everything they have is private label, which is key to their 
success and profit.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I didn't know there were any Aldi's in the US but did know the Trader Joe's 
connection.  In fact it Shemp (remember him) who pointed it out years ago on 
FFL.  The things we learn here.
 
 Talk of the day is Starbucks changing their rewards policy.  I knew this was 
coming as they had me do one of their "15 minute" surveys last year where they 
raised the idea.  Of course that survey took more like a half hour and they 
probably threw mine out because I know too much how this all works from their 
side of the counter (and mentioned it).  I figure they've been having problems 
for several years because the breakfast goodies have shrunk in size and finally 
raised in price.  I even made jokes about them serving "breakfast sliders" or 
charging $2.50 for a bitesize muffin.  Then they raised prices when coffee 
beans went up but didn't lower them when the price of beans came down. 
 
 The rewards thing I understand partly as it was even their staff who told me 
to order my drink separately and the breakfast item separately.  That way you 
got a reward for each.  Problem was though it didn't happen often were the 
people who were ordering for "the whole office".  Yeah, you would go into 
Starbucks and there would one person in line in front of you then all of a 
sudden they would pull out a long list.  I would often just leave at that 
point.  But they could also put each drink on a separate charge to get more 
rewards.
 
 So now the rewards program is going to be 2 rewards points per $1 spent.  BUT, 
it will take 125 points to get a freebie of any item on the menu (currently it 
is 12 reward points).  During winter I would get one of their expensive 
breakfast sandwiches for free.  Summer might often be a reserve premium roast 
clover drink venti size for the freebie.  Those can run $5 or more.
 
 I've also been told that their new mobile order program backs things up too. 
This new program goes into effect in April.
 
 But I bet it will mean the locally run coffee bars will start doing more 
business.  They just better get their act together.
 
 On 02/22/2016 08:02 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   In our case we have both Aldi's and Trader Joe's.  On Valentine's Day, I 
went to the wholesale florist on florist row which is not too far from home.  
They had "grab and go" roses for $24.00/12.  I debated a while, and then 
decided I'd try Aldi's where I've gotten them in the past.  Sure enough, they 
had as nice a bunch of roses as the florist for about $12.95/12. 
 
 
 And yes, their $2.00 chocolate bar is exceptional, in my opinion.
 
 
 We just don't get to Trader Joe's much.  It's a little out of the way.  She 
has a different local, upscale grocer that she likes, that is closer.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 Aldi in the US is Trader Joe's.  I often get by the local one about 6 miles 
away once a month.  I like their dark chocolate bar with is around $2. Also our 
regional grocery chain Raley's, tries to compete with some of their own label 
and yesterday noticed they have launched a line of dark chocolate bars 
including one with espresso in it.  Basically they are cutting out "middle men" 
in doing this so that prices can stay lower.  They have their own line of chips 
and their "Ruffles" like potato chip is the most popular and often out of 
stock.  Lay's prices are much higher like on average $3 for a bag of "Ruffles" 
whereas the house brand is only $2.
 
 On 02/21/2016 07:38 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
 
   They do have Aldi in the States. 
 

 I live in London and I've *never* seen one of their stores. Lidl (also a 
German cut-price supermarket) is far more common here.
 

 Yank chocolate isn't bad but it's not a patch on UK chocolate.
 

 Can the Aldi brand really compare with Cadbury's milk chocolate?

 



 
 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chocolate is for life

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

I didn't know there were any Aldi's in the US but did know the Trader 
Joe's connection.  In fact it Shemp (remember him) who pointed it out 
years ago on FFL.  The things we learn here.


Talk of the day is Starbucks changing their rewards policy.  I knew this 
was coming as they had me do one of their "15 minute" surveys last year 
where they raised the idea.  Of course that survey took more like a half 
hour and they probably threw mine out because I know too much how this 
all works from their side of the counter (and mentioned it).  I figure 
they've been having problems for several years because the breakfast 
goodies have shrunk in size and finally raised in price.  I even made 
jokes about them serving "breakfast sliders" or charging $2.50 for a 
bitesize muffin.  Then they raised prices when coffee beans went up but 
didn't lower them when the price of beans came down.


The rewards thing I understand partly as it was even their staff who 
told me to order my drink separately and the breakfast item separately.  
That way you got a reward for each.  Problem was though it didn't happen 
often were the people who were ordering for "the whole office".  Yeah, 
you would go into Starbucks and there would one person in line in front 
of you then all of a sudden they would pull out a long list.  I would 
often just leave at that point.  But they could also put each drink on a 
separate charge to get more rewards.


So now the rewards program is going to be 2 rewards points per $1 
spent.  BUT, it will take 125 points to get a freebie of any item on the 
menu (currently it is 12 reward points).  During winter I would get one 
of their expensive breakfast sandwiches for free. Summer might often be 
a reserve premium roast clover drink venti size for the freebie.  Those 
can run $5 or more.


I've also been told that their new mobile order program backs things up 
too. This new program goes into effect in April.


But I bet it will mean the locally run coffee bars will start doing more 
business.  They just better get their act together.


On 02/22/2016 08:02 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
In our case we have both Aldi's and Trader Joe's.  On Valentine's Day, 
I went to the wholesale florist on florist row which is not too far 
from home.  They had "grab and go" roses for $24.00/12.  I debated a 
while, and then decided I'd try Aldi's where I've gotten them in the 
past.  Sure enough, they had as nice a bunch of roses as the florist 
for about $12.95/12.


And yes, their $2.00 chocolate bar is exceptional, in my opinion.

We just don't get to Trader Joe's much.  It's a little out of the way. 
 She has a different local, upscale grocer that she likes, that is closer.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Aldi in the US is Trader Joe's.  I often get by the local one about 6 
miles away once a month.  I like their dark chocolate bar with is 
around $2. Also our regional grocery chain Raley's, tries to compete 
with some of their own label and yesterday noticed they have launched 
a line of dark chocolate bars including one with espresso in it. 
Basically they are cutting out "middle men" in doing this so that 
prices can stay lower.  They have their own line of chips and their 
"Ruffles" like potato chip is the most popular and often out of 
stock.  Lay's prices are much higher like on average $3 for a bag of 
"Ruffles" whereas the house brand is only $2.


On 02/21/2016 07:38 PM, s3raphita@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:


They do have Aldi in the States.


I live in London and I've *never* seen one of their stores. Lidl 
(also a German cut-price supermarket) is far more common here.


Yank chocolate isn't bad but it's not a patch on UK chocolate.

Can the Aldi brand really compare with Cadbury's milk chocolate?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donald's message is here to stay, even if he is not

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will be the end 
of the republic"
Benjamin Franklin

  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 2:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donald's message is here to stay, even if he 
is not
   
 Probably just a sign of the demise of the American Republic which was 
bound to happen some day.  Countries don't last forever under one form of 
government.
 
 On 02/23/2016 11:52 AM, feste37 wrote:
  
    It's a sad day when a thug like Trump can take over one of America's great 
political parties. I see that yesterday he was saying, about a protester at a 
rally, that in the old days they would carry such people out on a stretcher 
(cheers), and he clearly relished those old days and chafed at the restrictions 
that now apply. He also said that he would like to punch the protester in the 
face (more cheers). Has it really come to this? Will America vote for a 
narcissistic fascist? Hillary will shred this guy in the debates because he is 
an ignoramus who has not thought through a single one of his so-called policy 
proposals. 
  
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
  
  Nationalism and populism propel Trump 
  As the returns came in from South Carolina Saturday night, showing Donald 
Trump winning a decisive victory, a note of nervous desperation crept into the 
commentary. 
  Political analysts pointed out repeatedly that if all of the votes for Marco 
Rubio, Ted Cruz, John Kasich, Jeb Bush and Ben  Carson were added up, they far 
exceeded the Trump vote. 
  Why this sudden interest in arithmetic? 
  
  If the field can be winnowed, we were told, if Carson and Kasich can be 
persuaded to follow Bush and get out, if Cruz can be  sidelined, if we can get 
a one-on-one Rubio-Trump race, Trump can be stopped. 
  Behind the thought is the wish. Behind the wish is the hope, the prayer that 
all the non-Trump voters are anti-Trump voters. 
  
  But is this true? Or are the media deluding themselves? 
  
  Watching these anchors, commentators, consultants and pundits called to mind 
the Cleveland Governors Conference of 1964. 
  Sen. Goldwater had just won the winner-take-all California primary, defeating 
Gov. Nelson Rockefeller, assuring himself of enough delegates to go over the 
top on the first ballot at the Cow Palace in San Francisco. 
  But with polls showing Barry losing massively to LBJ, the panicked governors 
at Cleveland conspired to block his nomination. 
  Michigan Gov. George Romney and Pennsylvania Gov. Bill Scranton were prodded 
to enter the race. Scranton would declare his availability in San Francisco 
with a letter accusing Goldwater of hostility toward civil rights – Barry had 
voted against the 1964 bill – and of excessive tolerance toward right-wing 
extremists such as the John Birch Society. 
  And what became of them all? 
  Goldwater won his nomination and went down in a historic defeat, but became a 
beloved figure and the father of modern conservatism. 
  Of those who turned their backs on Goldwater that fall, none ever won a 
presidential nomination. Of those who stood by Barry  that fall, Richard Nixon 
and Ronald Reagan, both would win the GOP nomination twice, and the presidency 
twice. 
  And the conservative movement would hold veto power over party nominees and 
become the dominant philosophy of the GOP. 
  Folks forget. Not only were there “liberal Republicans” and “moderate 
Republicans” back then, they dominated the landscape. Yet rare is the 
Republican today who would describe himself in such terms.  Which brings us 
back to the anti-Trump cabal. 
  While their immediate goal is to deny him the nomination, do they really 
think that if the party nominates Rubio, things can  be again as they were 
before Trump? Do they not see that America and the West are undergoing a series 
of crises that will change our world forever? 
  Bernie Sanders is not all wrong. There is a revolution going on. Late in the 
last century, when Robert Bartley was editorial editor, the Wall Street Journal 
championed a constitutional amendment of five words – “There shall be open 
borders.” 
  Bartley, who told colleague Peter Brimelow, “I think the nation-state is 
finished,” wanted U.S. borders thrown open to people and goods from all over 
the world. To Bartley and his acolytes, what made America one nation and one  
people was simply an ideology. 
  But what was silly then is suicidal today. 
  Whatever one may think of Trump’s talk of building a wall, does anyone think 
the United States is not going to have to build a security fence to defend our 
bleeding 2,000-mile border? 
  Given the huge trade deficits with China, Japan, Mexico and the EU, the 
hemorrhaging of manufacturing, the stagnation of  wages and the decline of the 
middle class, does anyone think that if Trump is 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donald's message is here to stay, even if he is not

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Probably just a sign of the demise of the American Republic which was 
bound to happen some day. Countries don't last forever under one form of 
government.


On 02/23/2016 11:52 AM, feste37 wrote:


It's a sad day when a thug like Trump can take over one of America's 
great political parties. I see that yesterday he was saying, about a 
protester at a rally, that in the old days they would carry such 
people out on a stretcher (cheers), and he clearly relished those old 
days and chafed at the restrictions that now apply. He also said that 
he would like to punch the protester in the face (more cheers). Has it 
really come to this? Will America vote for a narcissistic fascist? 
Hillary will shred this guy in the debates because he is an ignoramus 
who has not thought through a single one of his so-called policy 
proposals.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


*Nationalism and populism propel Trump*

*
*

As the returns came in from South Carolina Saturday night, showing 
Donald Trump winning a decisive victory, a note of nervous desperation 
crept into the commentary.



Political analysts pointed out repeatedly that if all of the votes for 
Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, John Kasich, Jeb Bush and Ben Carson were added 
up, they far exceeded the Trump vote.



Why this sudden interest in arithmetic?


If the field can be winnowed, we were told, if Carson and Kasich can 
be persuaded to follow Bush and get out, if Cruz can be sidelined, if 
we can get a one-on-one Rubio-Trump race, Trump can be stopped.



Behind the thought is the wish. Behind the wish is the hope, the 
prayer that all the /non-Trump/ voters are /anti-Trump/ voters.



But is this true? Or are the media deluding themselves?


Watching these anchors, commentators, consultants and pundits called 
to mind the Cleveland Governors Conference of 1964.



Sen. Goldwater had just won the winner-take-all California primary, 
defeating Gov. Nelson Rockefeller, assuring himself of enough 
delegates to go over the top on the first ballot at the Cow Palace in 
San Francisco.



But with polls showing Barry losing massively to LBJ, the panicked 
governors at Cleveland conspired to block his nomination.



Michigan Gov. George Romney and Pennsylvania Gov. Bill Scranton were 
prodded to enter the race. Scranton would declare his availability in 
San Francisco with a letter accusing Goldwater of hostility toward 
civil rights – Barry had voted against the 1964 bill – and of 
excessive tolerance toward right-wing extremists such as the John 
Birch Society.



And what became of them all?


Goldwater won his nomination and went down in a historic defeat, but 
became a beloved figure and the father of modern conservatism.



Of those who turned their backs on Goldwater that fall, none ever won 
a presidential nomination. Of those who stood by Barry that fall, 
Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan, both would win the GOP nomination 
twice, and the presidency twice.



And the conservative movement would hold veto power over party 
nominees and become the dominant philosophy of the GOP.



Folks forget. Not only were there “liberal Republicans” and “moderate 
Republicans” back then, they dominated the landscape. Yet rare is the 
Republican today who would describe himself in such terms.


Which brings us back to the anti-Trump cabal.


While their immediate goal is to deny him the nomination, do they 
really think that if the party nominates Rubio, things can be again as 
they were before Trump? Do they not see that America and the West are 
undergoing a series of crises that will change our world forever?



Bernie Sanders is not all wrong. There is a revolution going on.

Late in the last century, when Robert Bartley was editorial editor, 
the Wall Street Journal championed a constitutional amendment of five 
words – “There shall be open borders.”



Bartley, who told colleague Peter Brimelow, “I think the nation-state 
is finished,” wanted U.S. borders thrown open to people and goods from 
all over the world. To Bartley and his acolytes, what made America one 
nation and one people was simply an ideology.



But what was silly then is suicidal today.


Whatever one may think of Trump’s talk of building a wall, does anyone 
think the United States is not going to have to build a security fence 
to defend our bleeding 2,000-mile border?



Given the huge trade deficits with China, Japan, Mexico and the EU, 
the hemorrhaging of manufacturing, the stagnation of wages and the 
decline of the middle class, does anyone think that if Trump is turned 
back, the GOP can continue on being a free-trade party financed by the 
Beltway agents of transnational corporations?



Absent some major attack on the homeland, do our foreign-policy elites 
believe the American people would support new U.S. interventions to 
defeat, occupy and tutor Third World nations in liberal democracy?



Trump is winning because on immigration, amnesty, securing our border 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donald's message is here to stay, even if he is not

[feste37]

It's a sad day when a thug like Trump can take over one of America's great 
political parties. I see that yesterday he was saying, about a protester at a 
rally, that in the old days they would carry such people out on a stretcher 
(cheers), and he clearly relished those old days and chafed at the restrictions 
that now apply. He also said that he would like to punch the protester in the 
face (more cheers). Has it really come to this? Will America vote for a 
narcissistic fascist? Hillary will shred this guy in the debates because he is 
an ignoramus who has not thought through a single one of his so-called policy 
proposals. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Nationalism and populism propel Trump
 

 As the returns came in from South Carolina Saturday night, showing Donald 
Trump winning a decisive victory, a note of nervous desperation crept into the 
commentary.
 

 Political analysts pointed out repeatedly that if all of the votes for Marco 
Rubio, Ted Cruz, John Kasich, Jeb Bush and Ben Carson were added up, they far 
exceeded the Trump vote.
 

 Why this sudden interest in arithmetic? 

 

 If the field can be winnowed, we were told, if Carson and Kasich can be 
persuaded to follow Bush and get out, if Cruz can be sidelined, if we can get a 
one-on-one Rubio-Trump race, Trump can be stopped.
 

 Behind the thought is the wish. Behind the wish is the hope, the prayer that 
all the non-Trump voters are anti-Trump voters. 

 

 But is this true? Or are the media deluding themselves? 

 

 Watching these anchors, commentators, consultants and pundits called to mind 
the Cleveland Governors Conference of 1964.
 

 Sen. Goldwater had just won the winner-take-all California primary, defeating 
Gov. Nelson Rockefeller, assuring himself of enough delegates to go over the 
top on the first ballot at the Cow Palace in San Francisco.
 

 But with polls showing Barry losing massively to LBJ, the panicked governors 
at Cleveland conspired to block his nomination.
 

 Michigan Gov. George Romney and Pennsylvania Gov. Bill Scranton were prodded 
to enter the race. Scranton would declare his availability in San Francisco 
with a letter accusing Goldwater of hostility toward civil rights – Barry had 
voted against the 1964 bill – and of excessive tolerance toward right-wing 
extremists such as the John Birch Society.
 

 And what became of them all?
 

 Goldwater won his nomination and went down in a historic defeat, but became a 
beloved figure and the father of modern conservatism.
 

 Of those who turned their backs on Goldwater that fall, none ever won a 
presidential nomination. Of those who stood by Barry that fall, Richard Nixon 
and Ronald Reagan, both would win the GOP nomination twice, and the presidency 
twice.
 

 And the conservative movement would hold veto power over party nominees and 
become the dominant philosophy of the GOP.
 

 Folks forget. Not only were there “liberal Republicans” and “moderate 
Republicans” back then, they dominated the landscape. Yet rare is the 
Republican today who would describe himself in such terms. 
 Which brings us back to the anti-Trump cabal.
 

 While their immediate goal is to deny him the nomination, do they really think 
that if the party nominates Rubio, things can be again as they were before 
Trump? Do they not see that America and the West are undergoing a series of 
crises that will change our world forever?
 

 Bernie Sanders is not all wrong. There is a revolution going on.
 Late in the last century, when Robert Bartley was editorial editor, the Wall 
Street Journal championed a constitutional amendment of five words – “There 
shall be open borders.”
 

 Bartley, who told colleague Peter Brimelow, “I think the nation-state is 
finished,” wanted U.S. borders thrown open to people and goods from all over 
the world. To Bartley and his acolytes, what made America one nation and one 
people was simply an ideology.
 

 But what was silly then is suicidal today.
 

 Whatever one may think of Trump’s talk of building a wall, does anyone think 
the United States is not going to have to build a security fence to defend our 
bleeding 2,000-mile border?
 

 Given the huge trade deficits with China, Japan, Mexico and the EU, the 
hemorrhaging of manufacturing, the stagnation of wages and the decline of the 
middle class, does anyone think that if Trump is turned back, the GOP can 
continue on being a free-trade party financed by the Beltway agents of 
transnational corporations?
 

 Absent some major attack on the homeland, do our foreign-policy elites believe 
the American people would support new U.S. interventions to defeat, occupy and 
tutor Third World nations in liberal democracy?
 

 Trump is winning because on immigration, amnesty, securing our border and 
staying out of any new crusades for democracy, he has tapped into the most 
powerful currents in politics: economic populism and “America First” 
nationalism.
 

 Look at 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chocolate is for life

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

On 02/22/2016 08:16 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


It is interesting about those whose palette are so refined that they 
can pick out the different nuances that make food, or say chocolate.   
I say this as opposed to wine connoisseurs which I am very skeptical 
of, although I am not a wine drinker.



Food critics like like Mimi Sheraton were said to be able to 
distinguish a Coke from a Pepsi.


Easy.  Coke has nutmeg in it and Pepsi doesn't.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I recall seeing a story about the Cadbury thing.  If I recall right 
Nestle's took over distribution and changed the recipe so they could 
use cheaper chocolate.  You do know there was a shortage a year or two 
ago of dark chocolate because of the Ebola outbreak.  The dark 
chocolate beans are grown in an African country and they used laborers 
from the neighboring country for harvesting.  They had  to bar the 
usual laborers due to the outbreak and use higher priced local labor. 
So dark chocolate went sky high.


One thing I noticed about chocolate is most kids only like milk 
chocolate.  But my mother used to make cookies and cakes from scratch 
and kept Hershey's semi-sweet bars on hand for baking. She would break 
me off a piece so I developed at a young age a taste for dark chocolate.


When I was on TTC some of the folks knew to pick up the Marriot dark 
chocolate in Switzerland.  That was seriously intense chocolate and 
only recently have I even found anything like it here in the states.  
First off it was Flick's candies which re-emerged a few years ago and 
the story is the Ghirardelli, the San Francisco based company had 
bought Flick's many years ago as it was a popular candy at movie 
theaters.  They then moved the company to the East Bay and in the 
process broke the machines that made the candies.  So they stopped 
making them because there was no one around to fix the machines.


A few years back a guy from Denmark bought the old equipment and 
brought his dad over who could fix the machines. So they re-emerged 
but added a dark chocolate item very much like the Marriot in 
richness.  Then a year or two ago it disappeared. Turns out they may 
have launched their own candy stores and I don't have one in this 
community.


Then I often frequent a French bakery stall at our farmer's market 
downtown.  I always kid them by greeting in French. The guy studied 
baking in France but the rest of the crew doesn't speak a word of it 
so all have a great laugh.  But one day saying "bon matin" got a reply 
in French.  It was from a Swiss chocolatier who was sharing their 
booth and had some the best dark chocolate I've ever had.  She runs a 
shop called Swee55 which you can find online as Sweet55.com.  
Expensive and definitely gourmet.


On 02/21/2016 07:50 PM, steve.sundur@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:



Consumer Reports has on occasion done a comparison on chocolates.
 Hershey's has always fared pretty well.


I read that Cadbury's  uses a slightly different recipe in the US
than in Britain.

Of course the season for Cadbury is coming up here.  Otherwise
you don't really find them.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

They do have Aldi in the States.

I live in London and I've *never* seen one of their stores. Lidl
(also a German cut-price supermarket) is far more common here.

Yank chocolate isn't bad but it's not a patch on UK chocolate.

Can the Aldi brand really compare with Cadbury's milk chocolate?

[FairfieldLife] Donald's message is here to stay, even if he is not

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 
 Nationalism and populism propel Trump
 

 As the returns came in from South Carolina Saturday night, showing Donald 
Trump winning a decisive victory, a note of nervous desperation crept into the 
commentary.
 

 Political analysts pointed out repeatedly that if all of the votes for Marco 
Rubio, Ted Cruz, John Kasich, Jeb Bush and Ben Carson were added up, they far 
exceeded the Trump vote.
 

 Why this sudden interest in arithmetic? 

 

 If the field can be winnowed, we were told, if Carson and Kasich can be 
persuaded to follow Bush and get out, if Cruz can be sidelined, if we can get a 
one-on-one Rubio-Trump race, Trump can be stopped.
 

 Behind the thought is the wish. Behind the wish is the hope, the prayer that 
all the non-Trump voters are anti-Trump voters. 

 

 But is this true? Or are the media deluding themselves? 

 

 Watching these anchors, commentators, consultants and pundits called to mind 
the Cleveland Governors Conference of 1964.
 

 Sen. Goldwater had just won the winner-take-all California primary, defeating 
Gov. Nelson Rockefeller, assuring himself of enough delegates to go over the 
top on the first ballot at the Cow Palace in San Francisco.
 

 But with polls showing Barry losing massively to LBJ, the panicked governors 
at Cleveland conspired to block his nomination.
 

 Michigan Gov. George Romney and Pennsylvania Gov. Bill Scranton were prodded 
to enter the race. Scranton would declare his availability in San Francisco 
with a letter accusing Goldwater of hostility toward civil rights – Barry had 
voted against the 1964 bill – and of excessive tolerance toward right-wing 
extremists such as the John Birch Society.
 

 And what became of them all?
 

 Goldwater won his nomination and went down in a historic defeat, but became a 
beloved figure and the father of modern conservatism.
 

 Of those who turned their backs on Goldwater that fall, none ever won a 
presidential nomination. Of those who stood by Barry that fall, Richard Nixon 
and Ronald Reagan, both would win the GOP nomination twice, and the presidency 
twice.
 

 And the conservative movement would hold veto power over party nominees and 
become the dominant philosophy of the GOP.
 

 Folks forget. Not only were there “liberal Republicans” and “moderate 
Republicans” back then, they dominated the landscape. Yet rare is the 
Republican today who would describe himself in such terms. 
 Which brings us back to the anti-Trump cabal.
 

 While their immediate goal is to deny him the nomination, do they really think 
that if the party nominates Rubio, things can be again as they were before 
Trump? Do they not see that America and the West are undergoing a series of 
crises that will change our world forever?
 

 Bernie Sanders is not all wrong. There is a revolution going on.
 Late in the last century, when Robert Bartley was editorial editor, the Wall 
Street Journal championed a constitutional amendment of five words – “There 
shall be open borders.”
 

 Bartley, who told colleague Peter Brimelow, “I think the nation-state is 
finished,” wanted U.S. borders thrown open to people and goods from all over 
the world. To Bartley and his acolytes, what made America one nation and one 
people was simply an ideology.
 

 But what was silly then is suicidal today.
 

 Whatever one may think of Trump’s talk of building a wall, does anyone think 
the United States is not going to have to build a security fence to defend our 
bleeding 2,000-mile border?
 

 Given the huge trade deficits with China, Japan, Mexico and the EU, the 
hemorrhaging of manufacturing, the stagnation of wages and the decline of the 
middle class, does anyone think that if Trump is turned back, the GOP can 
continue on being a free-trade party financed by the Beltway agents of 
transnational corporations?
 

 Absent some major attack on the homeland, do our foreign-policy elites believe 
the American people would support new U.S. interventions to defeat, occupy and 
tutor Third World nations in liberal democracy?
 

 Trump is winning because on immigration, amnesty, securing our border and 
staying out of any new crusades for democracy, he has tapped into the most 
powerful currents in politics: economic populism and “America First” 
nationalism.
 

 Look at the crowds Trump draws. Look at the record turnouts in Republican 
caucuses and primaries. 

 

 If Beltway Republicans think they can stop Trump and turn back the movement 
behind him, and continue on with today’s policies on trade, immigration and 
intervention, they will be swept into the same dustbin of history as the 
Rockefeller Republicans. 

 

 America is saying, “Goodbye to all that.”
 

 For Trump is not only a candidate. He is a messenger from Middle America. And 
the message he is delivering to the establishment is: We want an end to your 
policies and we want an end to you. 

 

 If the elites think they can not only deny Trump the nomination, but turn back 
this revolution and