[FairfieldLife] Re: BG XIII 13, PITA of some Vaishnavas? Part 1

2011-05-17 Thread emptybill
Madhusuudana says: Pravaks.yaami, I shall clearly (pra), thoroughly, speak; of tat, that; yat jñeyam, which is to be known by a seeker of liberation. In order to draw the attention of the hearer, the Lord, eulogizing it by mentioning its results, says; jñaatvaa, by knowing; yat, which, the enti

[FairfieldLife] Dirty Linen in Colorado

2011-05-17 Thread emptybill
BORN IN TIBET, AGAIN -- THE EXILE OF THE TWELFTH TRUNGPA TULKU There are certain haters of MMY here on FFL who laud the Buddhist techniques and training of Chogyam Trungpa along with his former organization, Vajardhatu and its successor organization, Shambhala. Little do they know that the 12t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dirty Linen in Colorado

2011-05-18 Thread emptybill
s. She was only 16 years old when they married. He liked them young and pretty. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > emptybill: > > Dirty Linen in Colorado > > > Apparently the first consort of Chogyam Trunpa Mukpo > was one Kuncho

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-18 Thread emptybill
This written piece is laughable. It shows just how slack-jawed and even infantile in approach people can be. It is even more absurd that Vaj proffers it as evidence that everyone was tricked. Even back in 1970, when I was initiated, Sir John Woodroof's works on Tantra were easily obtainable wit

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-19 Thread emptybill
Richard, Calm down and consider the facts long demonstrated here on FFL. Vaj is a classic newsgroup troll ... someone whose only purpose is to cause everyone else to argue, to "provoke readers to an emotional reaction" and to "disrupt normal on-topic discussion". "A concern troll is a false fla

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread emptybill
… --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" rick@ wrote: > > > > > On Behalf Of emptybill > > > > > > Richard, > > > > > > Calm down and consider the fact

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread emptybill
The only bill you'll get is an empty one, proselytizer. Heh, Heh. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On May 20, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Peter wrote: > > > Vaj wrote: > > > > And so therefore we provide a great and important > > service: helping people wake up to their own

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dark Rishi II: Mahesh's downfall

2011-05-20 Thread emptybill
So now it can be told. This is how petty little western dzogchen boys play in the yard. I'm sure Namkhai finds you amazing. Bet you can show him "what is what". Bet you even have an Italian nickname now. It would certainly be appropriate for a fawning Mukpo lover. ………

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dark Rishi II: Mahesh's downfall

2011-05-20 Thread emptybill
iously experienced as yourself. ……. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On May 20, 2011, at 10:52 PM, emptybill wrote: > > > So now it can be told. This is how petty little western dzogchen boys play in the yard. I'm sure Namkhai finds you amazi

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-21 Thread emptybill
No need to be more mature or believe in some soon-to- be "holy rupture". Just cover yourself with the blood of Jesus because God can't see through the blessed blood of Jesus. God will never know it's really only you (you stinking pile of sinful filth)! Rather, he will take a glance at your righ

[FairfieldLife] Re: On Israel - A Proud Day for Obama

2011-05-23 Thread emptybill
Yep, Muslim peace. How hallowed – "We are of Peace". Think of it. Mussalmen and Jews sitting around the camp fire singing kumbaya. It makes me weep with gratitude knowing this has been ordained by YHVH as he finally "shakes hands" with Allah. But perhaps you actually mean the peace that e

[FairfieldLife] Re: And another bite...

2011-05-23 Thread emptybill
Go read Shankara's commentary on the Brahma Sutra-s. He says if you want to reside in Brahma-loka you may do so - that is until everything is dissolved at the cosmic pralaya. If you want to play around and enjoy cosmic siddhi-s you may also do that. He also says that you may even be called back

[FairfieldLife] Re: And another bite...

2011-05-23 Thread emptybill
It would be more helpful if you would hold your own pretensions in "equal contempt". ………. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > Does it help that I hold all their pretensions about knowing what happens after death in equal contempt? > > > > ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: And another bite...

2011-05-23 Thread emptybill
ractice of monasticism. Thus, you already know this. Remember? …… --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote: > > > > > > It would be

[FairfieldLife] Re: And another bite...

2011-05-23 Thread emptybill
; here is not whether Maharishi was right -- I certainly don't > think he was -- just what it was that he taught. What he > taught was that when you die after CC there is no more > incarnation, period. No other option. Somebody here who > gives a shit can probably remember the ac

[FairfieldLife] Re: And another bite...

2011-05-23 Thread emptybill
re is nothing to know. Death is the end of you, so do whatever now. It is already too late. You're already a dead man walking. "We are of Peace". --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptyb

[FairfieldLife] Re: On Israel - A Proud Day for Obama

2011-05-23 Thread emptybill
Thermo-nuclear warefare is their destiny and their end. Read it and weep. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > emptybill: > > Over 1.5 million Europeans were raided, enslaved > > and sold between 1500 and 1800 AD... > > > W

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Reincarnation/Enlightenment and Death'

2011-05-23 Thread emptybill
So how is that Chaim? Just 'cause you claim a different intent are you really different? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" wrote: > > Yes, that could very well be, but then that soul would be completely different in terms of their intention of being here... > > --- In FairfieldLife@y

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Reincarnation/Enlightenment and Death'

2011-05-23 Thread emptybill
This must be a misspelling. There's no "you" in "I". --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" wrote: > > Different in terms of the path that you would walk, as you would be not of 'this world'... > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and Satyanand: Comments on Enlightenment Afterlife

2011-05-24 Thread emptybill
You might mentally note that this concept of extinction was pronounced here in the West by an 19th Century English poet rather than by Shankara. Never shall yearnings torture him Nor sins stain him nor ache of earthly joys And woes invade his safe eternal peace Nor deaths and lives recur. He

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and Satyanand: Comments on Enlightenment Afterlife

2011-05-24 Thread emptybill
Prabhupad was a Gaudiya Vaishnava and only spoke their theology. This was decidedly not what Maharishi was saying. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > We are part and parcel of God, but can never be God, according to Srila Prabhupada. I believe MMY wanted to say the same th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and Satyanand: Comments on Enlightenment Afterlife

2011-05-24 Thread emptybill
Better yet, direct his attention to the final part of the Brahma Sutra-s with Shankara's commentary. Although he used to carry around Maharishi's commentary on the Brahma Sutra-s, apparently he never wanted to read Shankara's famous bhasya.This is probably because Maharishi commentary did not agr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tom Knoles and "Vedic Meditation" interview

2011-05-25 Thread emptybill
Seems to be TM with a different name. How these guys can proffer themselves as Vedic gurus shows a bit of hubris. With a Vedic Mahapundita and guru like SSRS traveling around, these guys are like mice scurrying around in the corners after the elephant passes by. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-25 Thread emptybill
Puleez Vaj loves us so much he just serves us the poisoned antidote to free us from ourselves and our enslavement. What a bodhisattva! Didn't you read his recent post where he declared his mission to free us from our bondage to TM and the whole Hindoo payoff? His love and compassion are univers

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-25 Thread emptybill
No doing fancy pants. That'll be $49.95 to me for being your PR man. Cash only - no credit card transactions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On May 25, 2011, at 2:18 PM, emptybill wrote: > > > Puleez > > > > Vaj loves us so

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-25 Thread emptybill
using deodorant. He stinks.:-) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote: > > > > > > No doing fancy pants. > > > > That'll be $49.95 to me for being your PR man. > > > > Cash only - no credit card transactions. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread emptybill
In reality there is no truth. There is no truth in reality. There is no reality that can be true. There is only opinion. All opinions are equal in value. You are a troll. Vaj is a troll. You support each other in trollness. You opinions don't matter here. Your opinions don't matter at all. N

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread emptybill
They have replied to you so they could respond to your previous postings. This encourages you but also gives the false impression that people really care about what you say. Those people your quote on FFL believe that your statements need countering but in the world of "no truth, no reality" wha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread emptybill
$49.95. … --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On May 25, 2011, at 10:04 PM, emptybill wrote: > > > I'm selling the idea as a genuine return to an "old world charm" for imported nath-yogis, which V claims to be. > > > A real "old world charm" a la the Nathas would be ashes. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj never learned, practiced, or taught TM

2011-05-27 Thread emptybill
I have asked V a number of times for who, what, where he learned any meditation techniques. He avoids answering this and consistently disappears for a while after the query. At one point he claimed on the forum that he had received teaching from Namkhai Norbu and upon occasion indicated that he d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj never learned, practiced, or taught TM

2011-05-27 Thread emptybill
Who the "fucking hell" cares what you have to say about this? Go talk to Bariatric-I whose opinion is that everything is opinion. You'll be able to entertain him for a moment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > What the fucking hell does anyone here care about the credent

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj never learned, practiced, or taught TM

2011-05-27 Thread emptybill
dhist living a pilfered life of book dhyana-samaapatti-s. Norbu webinars don't mean anything. ……. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On May 27, 2011, at 2:10 PM, emptybill wrote: > > > Who the "fucking hell" cares w

[FairfieldLife] Re: the poisoning

2011-05-27 Thread emptybill
Poison is the favorite method of killing gurus of opposing sampradaya-s or even another guru within the same sampradaya. It is usually slipped into the food while the cook is being distracted by another person and is carefully measured. By Milarepa's time it has spread to Tibet also. If you have

[FairfieldLife] Re: the poisoning

2011-05-27 Thread emptybill
Poison is the favorite method of killing gurus of opposing sampradaya-s or even another guru within the same sampradaya. It is usually slipped into the food while the cook is being distracted by another person and is carefully measured. By Milarepa's time it has spread to Tibet also. If you have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-27 Thread emptybill
Don't you know that salvation is through faith alone? No works can warrant it! I heard it from my Uncle: God sez jus git on yur neez an pray jeezus to forgiv you. That's even easier than the mantra of a hindoo demon and surely to happen. Judy … quick … call Ratko Mladic and tell him. ……

[FairfieldLife] Re: the poisoning

2011-05-27 Thread emptybill
was just karma resolving. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote: > > > > > > Poison is the favorite method of killing gurus of opposing sampradaya-s > > or even another guru within the same sampradaya. It is usually slipped >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-30 Thread emptybill
ut it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote: > > > > > > Aurobindo was a poet and yogin, not a philosopher and certainly not a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-30 Thread emptybill
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote: > > > > > > > > As far as the world, Ramalinga was only concerned to bring the path of > > total divinisation to this world

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are you a 'Marked Soul'?

2011-01-30 Thread emptybill
This is just a Gnostic Chistian style night-time story told by quasi-hindoos to keep the kids quiet and enraptured until they would fall asleep. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wgm4u@ wrote: > > > > Special claims of Sant

[FairfieldLife] Re: Close Encounters of the Buddhist Kind SRM?

2011-02-01 Thread emptybill
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: Dear EmptyBill or anyone; > SRM Asia? What were they talking about when they felt compelled toget up and speak in lectures? Lot of us relate to SRM as Charlie Lutes.Charlie did that his own way too. What were these older stud

[FairfieldLife] Armegedon: Is it coming soon to a TV near you?

2011-02-01 Thread emptybill
Muslim Brotherhood: `Prepare Egyptians for war with Israel' By YAAKOV LAPPIN 02/01/2011 02:00 A leading member of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt told the Arabic-language Iranian news network Al-Alam on Monday that he would like to see the Egyptian people prepare for war

[FairfieldLife] Re: What must it be like? How about Abapical.

2011-02-01 Thread emptybill
So sorry but although some people may have been relieved that you left, they didn't care about it enough to even comment. For many here you are abapical to the purpose of discussions here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > Preach this gospel to those who disputeth it, d

[FairfieldLife] Re: What must it be like? How about Abapical.

2011-02-01 Thread emptybill
rsonal Universe, or allied to some Personality. > (and if the latter, which Personality). > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote: > > > > So sorry but although some people may have been relieved that you left, > > they did

[FairfieldLife] Re: Zeus, the god who became irrelevant

2011-02-02 Thread emptybill
"The Greeks apparently found a more rationale and believable deity from the tradition of the Hebrews." Greeks? You must mean Greek speaking Romans since the time period in question was during the Roman Empire 150-350 A.D. And your contention is laughable. The X-tians were noted from their begi

[FairfieldLife] Judging an individuals state of consciousness

2011-02-06 Thread emptybill
Yep ... you are indeed spouting off. By Patanjali-s logic, we can only judge a person's "state of consciousness" by the guna-s of prakriti. It is only prakriti which changes for Patanjali. There is nothing else that can change. Seeing directly that purusha and buddhi are "completely distinct" (a

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Yoga Vashishta

2011-02-07 Thread emptybill
No context? No attribution? No placement of the quote within the text? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > Steady in that state of fullness which shines when all desires are given up, and peaceful in that state o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another view of darshan

2011-02-08 Thread emptybill
A Zen teacher in NM? And who'd that be? And why even care what some Zen teacher says about anything? Zen teachers in general consider topics like darshan to be anathema. Thus in their best put-down fashion they dismiss it all. This only points out the obvious… most of them lack the power or shak

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another view of darshan

2011-02-08 Thread emptybill
t; --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote: > > > > > Zen teachers depend upon closed language loops for meta-meaning that > > only the supposedly awakened can "intuit". In reality it is just > > a non-regular referent

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tea Partiers do something right for a change

2011-02-09 Thread emptybill
Hmmm ... So when they agree with you they are sorta "o.k." The rest of the time they are stupidly slack-jawed fools led around by demonic neo-fascists. Hmmm you sound like a Neo-Marxist Anarchist. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > They protested the extension of t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another view of another view on darshan

2011-02-09 Thread emptybill
Concerning the meaning of parousia, Israel P.Warren, D.D., wrote in his work The Parousia, Portland, Maine (1879),pp. 12-15: "We often speak of the 'second advent,' the second coming,' etc., but the Scriptures never speak of a 'second Parousia. 'Whatever was to be its nature, it was something pec

[FairfieldLife] How to Build a Progressive Tea Party

2011-02-09 Thread emptybill
in certain areas. The Patriot Act was one of > these. And actually the MSNBC article was a little misleading or > written poorly as the entire bill was defeated which other news sources > pointed out. > > > On 02/09/2011 08:32 AM, emptybill wrote: > > Hmmm ... > > > &g

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to Build a Progressive Tea Party

2011-02-10 Thread emptybill
t Tom never answered my question about why he thought Ronald Reagan was a great man. He has no answer. > > You do understand that the original colonists were protesting against a corporation not a government? The corporation was the British East India Company. > > > > On 02/09/

[FairfieldLife] Yoni Yoga lineage

2011-02-12 Thread emptybill
Om. Narayana is higher than the unmanifest. Hiranyagarbha,the golden embryo, comes out from the unmanifest. All these worlds, including the earth with its seven dwipa, are within the embryo. Thus Adi-Shankara describes his lineage of gurus in the Bhagavad-Gita Bhasya with Narayana because Naraya

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yoni Yoga lineage

2011-02-12 Thread emptybill
Said like a good Christian proselytizer. Aren't you on the wrong forum? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote: > > > Thus: > > > Conclusion: we a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yoni Yoga lineage

2011-02-12 Thread emptybill
Stay tuned to the Left-hand channel. More's to come. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter L Sutphen wrote: > > I enjoyed the turn into left handed tantric humor mr empty bill. > > Peter > > > On Feb 12, 2011, at 1:12 PM, "emptybill" emptybill@...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yoni Yoga lineage

2011-02-12 Thread emptybill
tra > SBS practiced Samaya Shri Vidya-tantra, an internalized yogic form. While I'm sure he had his pujas that he practiced externally, his Shri Vidya practice was an internal form which is rather rare.> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Feb 12, 2011

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yoni Yoga lineage

2011-02-13 Thread emptybill
gam … I keep it to remind me that I'm Shiva." With confusion such as this, who needs mere "spiritual" ignorance? * --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "e

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lohan and the Gunas

2011-02-13 Thread emptybill
Lohan shows most of the four great obstacles to spiritual life: High birth status High Intelligence Wealth Fame However her other brother, Porcelain Lohan, has none of these obstacles The other Lohan: http://gallery.shambhalasun.com/_product_39708/Luohan --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogro

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lohan and the Gunas

2011-02-13 Thread emptybill
ps.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > Ha ha! I really enjoyed the museum in Kansas City mentioned in the link. We used to visit while we were learning the sidhis nearby. An amazing collection! :-) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote: > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: AOL Pre-TTC must have been a vegetarian for 3 to 6 months before

2011-02-18 Thread emptybill
Unless requirements have changed, being a vegetarian prior to AOL TTC also means that you can no longer eat eggs from chicken hens. I assume this also covers your favorite caviar. So … sorry Charlie, you've been Tuna-ed. Brahmins only please, no kshatriya-s allowed. This ain't no Kurukshetr

[FairfieldLife] Re: AOL Pre-TTC must have been a vegetarian for 3 to 6 months before

2011-02-18 Thread emptybill
So in Hindu Tantra I can eat Elsie the Cow but not a Brahma-Bull? What about Buffalo? At a Buddhist tantric gana-chakra, (a gang-circle), after chanting the gana-puja meal offered to the protectors and gang-lords, even if the participant is a vegetarian they must eat a small sliver of meat or in-

[FairfieldLife] Re: Places are going fast?

2011-02-18 Thread emptybill
They should offer different size Kila-s, not some stupid knife. A kila is the tool that Indra used to cut up Vritra. But wait … no kshatriya-s allowed at the course, so fergit it. Indra is not allow either. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups

[FairfieldLife] Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice

2011-02-19 Thread emptybill
How about some Truth in Definition: How do you "divide the mind"? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > But I do know that many people outside of TM recommend using > > > a mantra also outside of meditation, during routine work, > > > also called Japa. I don't kno

[FairfieldLife] Claim and Counter Claim on JJ

2011-02-19 Thread emptybill
Point 2. Assuming he's in CC ---> UC; for some unclear reason given this progression, has shared very little on the kundalini signposts along the way; thus leaving seekers to fill in the gaps through other sources. Counter Point 2. Kundalini doctrine is only one explanatory construct. It is s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief required?

2011-02-19 Thread emptybill
Shraaddha does not properly translate as "belief" but rather as "faith" or, better yet, "faithfulness". This is a completely different idea. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > I am not saying that belief is all, I am just saying that it seems to be an important element. A

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice

2011-02-19 Thread emptybill
Samaadhi: sam+aa+dhi (putting together) is cognate with the English word "synthesis": Latin, collection, from Greek sunthesis, from Suntithenai, to put together: sun-, syn- + tithenai, to put. However in a Buddhist context, samadhi signifies a stable and unified state of attention in the sense

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief required?

2011-02-20 Thread emptybill
** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote: > > > > > > Shraaddha d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice

2011-02-20 Thread emptybill
Aren't you just here as a proselyte for SRF? Wouldn't you feel more at home among your own kind, performing some cross-eyed tratak? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > Which of course is the truth, it takes years and years to actually transcend to pure consciousness (maybe l

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice

2011-02-20 Thread emptybill
which considers the heart/hrid (rather than anahata chakra) to be the seat of the jiva. * --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote: > > > > Are

[FairfieldLife] Re: NAMAH OR NAMAHA

2011-02-20 Thread emptybill
This is quite funny. Where did you learn to be so funny? MIU? You sound like a parrot for those silly rajas. Did they give you these talking points? You might want to check your sources since your point shows unawareness of MMY's transmission of mantra. This also includes the actual experience o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice

2011-02-20 Thread emptybill
n with the technique for the general public. However it is an "adjunct" to the usual sitting with eyes > closed in meditation. > > > On 02/19/2011 07:09 AM, emptybill wrote: > > How about some Truth in Definition: > > > > How do you "divide the mind"?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice

2011-02-21 Thread emptybill
You forgot to mention that meditation is the practice of creating a blank mind so that the demons of Satan can seize it and turn you toward a wasted life of wickedness and evil. After tasting that depraved corruption, the satanic demons will turn you into one of their own ... the haters of Jeezus

[FairfieldLife] Repost of over-looked points about MMY and Vedanta

2011-02-21 Thread emptybill
Kundalini doctrine is only one explanatory construct. It is specific to Shaiva and Indian Hatha Yoga teachings only and has been added to the corpus of late upanishadic texts in the usual "made-up" manner. Westerners seem fascinated by this type of talk but it has no/none/nothing/zilch to do with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice

2011-02-21 Thread emptybill
". Are you (or Abhayananda) copying the typical Yogic-Vedanta use .. meaning some kind of proposed "ultimate union"? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > The Kali Sadhaka Ghrana tradition. > > On 02/20/2011 07:55 PM, emptybill wrote: > > Ple

[FairfieldLife] Re: Repost of over-looked points about MMY and Vedanta

2011-02-21 Thread emptybill
Yup, I do indeed think it so. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:42 AM, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: > > (Note that most of our current so-called "neo-vedantins" are basically people selling seminars of made-up teaching

[FairfieldLife] Re: Repost of over-looked points about MMY and Vedanta

2011-02-21 Thread emptybill
This is overly-literalistic. How would anyone know it was 3-1/2 turns rather than 3 turns for something not anatomically findable. It is all metaphor. By the way the "turning" is around the Shiva Lingam pictured resting in the pericarp of the mulaadhara-wheel, not the chakra itself. Wheels don't h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chakras mentioned in the Mudaka Upanishad

2011-02-21 Thread emptybill
This is the homology in the upanishads between the antara-yaga and the bahir yaga, the inner and outer agni-hotra. This is not some literalism, as if there was some one-to-one correspondence. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > The flame has seven licking tongues, Kali, the

[FairfieldLife] Re: What the Mayan Elders are Saying About 2012 by Carlos Barrios, Mayan Elder

2011-02-21 Thread emptybill
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_Center Goto the section on Sagitarius A* (Sag. A Star) read it and then goto the bottom of the page. There are a number of beautiful color photos of stars circling Sag. A *. Read it and weep with wonder.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What the Mayan Elders are Saying About 2012 by Carlos Barrios, Mayan Elder

2011-02-21 Thread emptybill
You stand corrected to some degree? Complete bullshit ... right? The complex astronomical radio source Sagittarius A appears to be located almost exactly at the Galactic Center (approx. 18 hrs,

[FairfieldLife] What else could I write about here? (was Re: The *real* TM intro lecture)

2011-02-22 Thread emptybill
Just start your own forum, defined it as you wish and invite whom you prefer. All the rest is just complaining. > > I think the problem FFL is undergoing at the moment is some people insisting it should ONLY be about spiritual experiences. But I read Rick's intent as a gathering place for peopl

[FairfieldLife] Here we go again (Was Re: What the Mayan Elders are Saying)

2011-02-22 Thread emptybill
Here, Here. There, There. And the mantra for this mostest-goldenest era is: om kuum-bhay-hyah mlord This is not yet in any book ... it is double-triple secret mantra - guha-guhya mantra. So don't be left behind. Rather practice to be right behind. Practice as if god sees you and if not then ..

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice

2011-02-24 Thread emptybill
FYI ... Sahasra + ara = sahasrāra or sahasraara sahasra = 1000 ara = a radii or a wheel spoke Therefore ... sahasrāra or sahasraara literally means a thousand radii or spokes, which was why it was chosen for the crown chakra or "wheel". OTOH ... Sahasrada = Yadu had five sons, Sahasrada

[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj

2011-02-25 Thread emptybill
You are bored with being you. Everyone can understand that. Whether you are bored is not relevant to any conversation between any two people on this forum. Your presence here is just a way to insert your comments without cause. Go back to the nothingness of you and enjoy it ... just as we enjoy y

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice

2011-02-25 Thread emptybill
- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote: > > > > > > FYI ... > > > > Sahasra + ara = sahasrāra or sahasraara > > > > sahasra = 1000 > > > > ara = a radi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj

2011-02-25 Thread emptybill
So that is your final word ... "I have the right"? You and I have no "rights" here that are not given gratis by Rick. If we don't like it we can start our own forum. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.co

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is yoga "Vedic"?

2011-02-26 Thread emptybill
So now it can be told: You can smoke dope, fuck whomever you wish and "achieve" pure consciousness together with any siddhi you can think of and call it Shiva's Shakti - i.e. the power of the auspicious one. Didn't many folks here on the forum do this in the late '60's to early `70's era? Wasn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Higher Dimensions

2011-02-27 Thread emptybill
No need to feel sorry for silly ol' Pete. He still lives in three (3) physical dimensions plus a temporal dimension that seems to go only forward, not backward (and most certainly does not slide into another set of actualities). Don't upset him by telling him everything looks different from the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Master the Three Gunas

2011-02-28 Thread emptybill
Rick, Why is this group proselytizing us on this forum? Didn't check them out? They are a Gaudiya offshoot of one of the organizations affiliated and aligned with the Hare Krishna-s. While these posts here are expository in content by this teacher they are not discussions with other members

[FairfieldLife] Asana, loosening effort and sanyama on the heart

2011-02-28 Thread emptybill
He probably meant Shavaasana rather than shivasana. However, Patanjali does not deal with asanas as such, only mentioning that: II.46 seated posture (asana) is steady (sthira) and easy (sukha) Nothing about lying down in shavaasana. That's a much later hatha style yoga interpretation. There is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Double Attention and Two Minds

2011-03-01 Thread emptybill
This is all loose talk. Dividing the mind? Which mind? How? Who/what would that be doing the dividing? Are they/that/it … somehow different than the mind? How many "minds" do you suppose we have? Attention focuses upon it object. Whether course, subtle or causative, the object is the point of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting trivia on the actual "historical devil"

2011-03-01 Thread emptybill
This is a straight copy from Childhood's End by Authur C. Clark. It must have snookered a lot of people. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Flatley" untilbeyond@ wrote: > > > > http://www.zetatalk.com/call/c24.htm > > "The Devil is reputed to be a red creature with a pointed >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting trivia on the actual "historical devil"

2011-03-02 Thread emptybill
I actually worship a demon who is eulogized as the power of consciousness pervading the universe. It is she who destroys the purveyors of duality and their running-dog ideo-flunkies. Just for fun she cuts the aortas of vow breakers, rips their heart out of their chest and dances as she sucks the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice

2011-03-03 Thread emptybill
I believe the term might be "whale shit". Willy, wake up! Is this another wiki-moment for you. Doesn't this happen rather often for you? Shouldn't you ask your doctor about this? Chan/Sön/Zen teachings have for the past 1000 years repudiated the identification of Chan/Sön/Zen with dhyana/chan-na

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice

2011-03-03 Thread emptybill
Yep, in his Bhagavad Gita and Brahma Sutra commentaries Shankara unconditionally denounced the fools who use "om" ... even when they are dying. >> Yes? Where exactly and in which context? I read a lot of Shankara >> but never encountered it. He said that no mantra can make you free. --- In Fai

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice

2011-03-03 Thread emptybill
such as yourself … doesn't it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > emptybill: > > Is this another wiki-moment for you. > > > Well, I guess we know who the Sanskrit readers are > in this group, and it appears that Vaj and Bill are > not,

[FairfieldLife] Re: A checklist of psychological traits (was: ...if Maharishi was just a guy)

2011-03-04 Thread emptybill
Kashmiri Shaivism, under Lakshmanjoo may have influenced MMY but this type of Shaivism is not definitional for the Kevala Advaita of Shankara's sampradaya. In fact these two traditions dispute each other in their definitions and claims about reality. If attention has an object (whether internal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice

2011-03-04 Thread emptybill
"According to a Shankaracharya who was also a disciple of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati," No attribution of who/what/when/where makes this quote just another spurious claim. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Michael Flatley wrote: > > > > >> In Kri

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice

2011-03-04 Thread emptybill
; > > Is this another wiki-moment for you. > > > > > > > I guess it would be asking too much to have > > > them name their own Soto Zen or Dzogchen > > > teachers... > > > > emptybill: > > So you are only accepting Soto teachers as valid &

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice

2011-03-04 Thread emptybill
Hey, quit trashing Hindoo devils. I've got one of my own. Them is kool. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > translation: Vaj very much wants you to drop your interest in TM, and take up Vipasanna meditation. He spends hours each week, month after month, glorifying his l

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice

2011-03-04 Thread emptybill
Barry is selling himself. It is all he's got. This is the only reason that he is here. But wait ... that can't be 'cause he doesn't have a self ... but wait ... he doesn't need a real one to sell himself. Please entertain him for a while more. That way the rest of us can discuss whatever. ---

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