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How many years have I missed that...
Me too. And did Barry himself spot it I wonder?
I also wonder if Barry could still be posting on FFL using a new pseudo . . .
indeed perhaps "Bhairitu" IS Barry! Have they ever disagreed over any topi
What will kids think of next . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUzOF7Bcv0g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUzOF7Bcv0g
Re "Everything you know may just be part of a Matrix-style simulation":
Yes - but how do those running the simulation (advanced humans, robots or
aliens) know that they are not themselves part of a higher-level simulation?
And as the argument would also apply to those other programmers, etc,
Re "The universe is digital and a simulation as designed by the Creator":
I agree. That stops the regress and could well be the case.
Of course if we are "simulated" we have no free will and so can't be held
accountable for our actions.
I tend not to hold with these Matrix-type scenari
The over-used word "evil" seems apt in these cases. I normally groan inwardly
when I hear others claiming that people can become "possessed" by demonic
entities but the depths of Islamic State's depravity gives me pause.
In other news, today a Bangladeshi blogger known for his atheist views ha
Now a Canadian firm has been granted a patent for a ‘space elevator’ which will
shoot cargo 12.4 miles into the stratosphere from where it can be launched more
easily. According to Thoth Technology, the lift would cut the cost of space
flight by around one third because shuttles would not need t
I like a current chocolate ad on British TV which features Audrey Hepburn -
kinda.
I had a debate with my sister the other day on whether the makers of the ad
had used a look-a-like model (my belief) whereas my sister thought the footage
was from a genuine old film featuring Hepburn.
We
So not a Muslim martyr - willingly facing death for an obscurantist,
irrational, intolerant sect; perhaps in the vain hope of willing, nubile
virgins in the afterlife.
Instead he sacrificed his life to protect our precious, common heritage. I
salute him.
He even named his daughter after
That amused me so that I have signed up!
My "boarding card" tells me that my arrival site on Mars will be Elysium
Planitia.
That translates as "Plain of Ideal Happiness" .
That's a name that could have come from Maharishi !
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Last call
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Congratulations! I haven't gotten my boarding ticket yet, although I've
already applied. Are they playing favoritism to interested Brits?
You don't get a hard copy. You should have seen a screen shot of the pass with
your name. Go back and
Clandestine street artist Banksy has opened a theme park like no other. Inside
a derelict lido in Weston-super-Mare, Dismaland features migrant boats, a dead
princess and Banksy's trademark dark humour.
It's "unsuitable for small children" if you fancy a visit.
http://tinyurl.com/o8vuwnt
Gunman injures three after firing Kalashnikov on Amsterdam-Paris train: unarmed
US Marines foil attack by Moroccan gunman and handgun . . .
http://tinyurl.com/p8fu7l7 http://tinyurl.com/p8fu7l7
Let's hope they win this war. I should say we win rather than they win as
"cultural libertarian" pretty much describes my position. In the presence of
self-described left-wing libertarians I tend to feel like a right-wing
libertarian; in the presence of self-described right-wing libertarians I
In the US we like to say the libertarians are Republicans who like to smoke
dope and have sex.
I plead not guilty to some of those charges ;-)
Republicans are what I had in mind when I said: "in the presence of
self-described right-wing libertarians I tend to feel like a left-wing
liberta
Values of men and women according to The Bible.
Leviticus 27
1 The Lord said to Moses,
2 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If anyone makes a special vow to
dedicate a person to the Lord by giving the equivalent value,
3 set the value of a male between the ages of twenty and s
A train loaded with Nazi gold has been found in Poland. It's been buried
underground since 1945.
As Adolf Hitler's last surviving relative I shall be claiming ownership.
The rest of you will have to be satisfied with one of those gold-plated
"perfect all-metal authentic replicas" availa
Six people are about to shut themselves inside a dome in Hawaii for a year, in
the longest US isolation experiment yet aimed at helping NASA prepare for a
pioneering journey to Mars. The crew includes a French astrobiologist, a German
physicist and four Americans - a pilot, an architect, a docto
. . . just keeps astonishing me.
from The Telegraph:
Two sisters in India - one aged only 15-years - are to be raped as
"punishment" for their brother running away with a married woman from a higher
caste.
Meenakshi Kumari, who is 23, and her younger sister, will then be paraded
naked
Are you a psychic, a witch or a clairvoyant?
If so you could find work with the British police. A consultation document
from the College of Policing, which is the official source of professional
practice on police work, has said that information from mediums should not be
dismissed.
Ar
. . . but not forgotten.
The horror film maestro - best known for A Nightmare on Elm Street - has
passed beyond the veil himself.
He did a very creepy film, The Serpent and the Rainbow, set on the Voodoo
island of Haiti and based on the real-life experiences of an American Harvard
anthr
Fragments of the world's oldest Koran, found in Birmingham last month, may
predate the Prophet Muhammad and could even rewrite the early history of Islam,
according to scholars.
http://tinyurl.com/o3p4x8h http://tinyurl.com/o3p4x8h
Three years ago when Julian Assange first took sanctuary in London's Ecuadorian
Embassy I suggested that the embassy could hold a Julian Assange look-a-like
party on the premises and so Jules could sneak out with the rest of the
revellers in the wee hours. It seems that the embassy staff had the
And speaking of The Serpent and the Rainbow, life imitates art as three people
are thought to have stolen millions from unsuspecting victims by blowing
scopolamine, a powerful "hypnotic" drug, into strangers' faces. Something
similar happens in the movie . . .
http://tinyurl.com/otb2645 http:/
Something new for you to lower your stress levels.
ASMR is the latest You Tube craze.
There's an example (you need to use headphones) . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLRQ1iYZJNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLRQ1iYZJNA
. . . and an intro video here (maybe a bit creepy?)
Re "Iranians are not Arab, they consider themselves Persian.":
Not just "consider themselves" - they are Persian. The dominant ethnic group
is Aryan(!) and not Semitic.
Re "jr_esq "migrants from Europe, the government should settle them in
cities/states with dwindling population or low po
(A) You're in a Catholic country sitting in a cafe. There are some Christians
nearby discussing their faith. You interrupt them to say: "I don't know why you
waste your time with all that crap. The only thing The Bible is good for is
emergency toilet paper".
(B) You're in an Islamic country s
Top cartoon!
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B, I'd say.
THAT IS THE CORRECT ANSWER. YOU OBVIOUSLY KEEP AN EYE ON CURRENT NEWS.
For those saying "What century?": The 21st century - and certainly for the
lifetimes of your children and grandchildren.
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I don't think anyone is suggesting they can't be who they are. The east is
east and the west is the west...The conversation has been centering on which of
these two regions is more violent. My point is that Christianity is by nature,
a non viol
Re "But the queen will not "retire." Queen of England is not a position that
you can retire from. ":
What about Edward VIII's abdication (1936) - after his involvement with that
woman Wallis Simpson?
"Not a position that you can retire from" is what they said about popes, until
Benedict
Did you fall asleep, s3raphita?
I plead guilty! I blanked that sentence out.
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If you read my post, you will see that I mention, in the very next sentence
after the one you quote. the example of Edward VIII. Did you fall asleep,
s3raphita?
Two stats for you from Sweden (2015):
Muslim males make up only 2% of the population.
75% of all rapes are committed by Muslim males.
The contrast between women's subordinate position in patriarchal Islamic
societies and the freedoms taken for granted by western women is guaranteed to
Can't find MMY's prediction but it's ironic that The Maharishi Fund wanted to
build a record-breaking tall skyscraper in Dallas but the FAA scuppered the
plans because the building would have impeded aircraft flight paths.
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Where can I find Maha
John 3:16: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
Of course, deciphering the meaning of that sentence gives rise to a multitude
of sects.
But yes, school students in America being mad
Of course they are right. I posted the following on FFL-2 yesterday:
When I first heard the story of that Muslim teen, Ahmed Mohamed, bringing a
ticking device to his school and being arrested I knew immediately that the
whole thing was a set-up.
He was detained for having what his teach
Dawkins also stated that originally he had been “among the many fooled” by the
clock-boy's story.
I wonder how long it will take him to realise that he was “among the many
fooled” initially by the story of scientific materialism and naturalism as an
adequate account of our universe ;-)
Two days ago a senior serving general said that the British Army could stage a
mutiny if Corbyn (the new Labour Party leader in the UK) ever becomes Prime
Minister.
From a news source:
Speaking anonymously to The Sunday Times, he said Mr Corbyn's victory has been
greeted with 'wholesale di
The pilgrims work themselves up into a frenzy and when the mob mentality takes
hold so does a tendency to panic (mass hysteria).
Given that Islam has a horror of paganism it's interesting that the word
"panic" comes from antiquity and is a tribute to the ancient God, Pan. Those
old pagan god
The pilgrims work themselves up into a frenzy and when the mob mentality takes
hold so does a tendency to panic (mass hysteria).
Given that Islam has a horror of paganism it's interesting that the word
"panic" comes from antiquity and comes from the ancient god, Pan. Those old
pagan gods wil
It's not looking good. Three stories have surfaced during the past couple of
days show how the UK is becoming a fearful place . . .
1) Maryam Namazie – a secular campaigner and founder of the Council of
Ex-Muslims – has been blocked from speaking at the University of Warwick,
because she “co
Eight of Iran's women's football team are actually men awaiting sex-change
operations, it has been claimed.
The country's football association was accused of being "unethical" for
knowingly fielding eight men in its women's team. Mojtabi Sharifi, an official
close to the Iranian league, tol
If injecting yourself with 3.5 million-year-old bacteria could keep you looking
and feeling youthful and healthy without having to fork out for a gym
membership, would you do it?
Russian scientist Anatoli Brouchkov, head of the Geocryology [the study of
frozen rock, soils, and ground] Depar
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Thus it is
Saudi Arabia's top religious leader said about the Hajj stampede: "Fate and
destiny are inevitable."
-Original Message-
From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]
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Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2015 5:40 pm
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Trump is leading the polls in Iowa according to the latest results. Is this The
Maharishi Effect at work?
Donald Trump = 24 percent
Dr. Ben Carson = 19 percent
Carly Fiorina = 8 percent
Jeb Bush = 7 percent
Ted Cruz = 6 percent
Marco Rubio = 6 percent
Bobby Jindal = 6 percent
Re "Why on earth would you be thinking the Maharishi Effect would be favoring
Trump for president in the first place?":
I was being cute. My (ironic) point was that the (alleged) Maharishi Effect
should surely have Trump bottom of the poll!
Mind you, MMY's pronouncements on politics sugge
In this case the issue of homosexuality is a red herring. To be a Catholic
priest is to take a vow of celibacy. As this tiresome exhibitionist is openly
cavorting with his lover - and wants to get married - he clearly hasn't the
vocation for the role he is in.
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Has anyone ever heard of her (Katie Hopkins)?
Russell Brand has - and doesn't like what he's heard . . .
Katie Hopkins Gets Her Dead Immigrants - Happy Now? Russell Brand The Trews
(E302) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=884RCxG61K4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=884RCxG61K4
Katie
If you want clear proof of what a pathetic nation the UK has become read this
letter issued by Annie Teriba, a black female student, when she stepped down
from several high-profile activist roles at Oxford University after admitting
she failed to obtain full consent before having sex with someon
Katie in action (one-minute clip) . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Hhqqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Hhqqg
Re "Belgian researchers examine DNA samples of 39 Hitler relatives, say he had
Jewish, African roots":
Don't we all have African roots? If you go back far enough.
There was some excitement a few years back when it was claimed that we humans
are all descendants of one "Eve". (No! Not the
Speaking as someone who is emphatically not enlightened or awakened and is
almost certainly not going to make that elevated grade in this life . . . And
as I am rather dubious that there are any other lives for S3 (or any of us) to
follow this one (either via reincarnation or in some post-mortem
Secular people in the USA have gone past The Bible, full stop.
What are they replacing it with? 1) A mindless hedonism. 2) The worship of the
almighty dollar.
There is no longer an intellectual culture worthy of the name in The West.
Just "safe spaces" in universities (where controversy,
A musing I just posted on FFL-2 in response to Sal talking about concerns
growing in India that the country’s tradition of religious tolerance is being
eroded : "There must be a solution based on education":
I hear that kind of talk a lot. But thinking about it I recollect that . . .
1) N
Yep. It's "judicial activism".
I hate being told what to do by priests, politicians or policemen.
I'd rather all changes in the law were decided by me.
As that isn't going to happen my second preference is that changes are decided
by democratic mandate.
One of my favourite politic
What would be your choice? Maybe . . .
This Land Is Your Land - Woody Guthrie (1940)
Where Have All the Flowers Gone - Pete Seeger (1961)
The Times They Are a-Changin’ - Bob Dylan (1964)
God Save the Queen - The Sex Pistols (1977)
(All political pop seems to be left-leaning.
Re "How about The Who's *Won't Get Fooled Again* ":
One of the best.
When I listened to the song when it was first released I took it for a
pro-revolutionary, counter-culture piece of agitprop.
We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they
Re "Part of the Union":
Another great song.
But I could virtually repeat what I just now posted about The Who's "Won't Get
Fooled Again" in reference to The Strawbs' hit.
When I heard it at the time it came out I took it as a straight piece of
pro-union power, lefty agitprop.
Since t
If like me you loathe both the left and the right this song could appeal. (You
need to be still hanging on to your youthful idealism!)
Lovers of the world unite
You alone know what is right
People all should feel this way
Needing someone every day
Keep the fire of dreamers bright
Lover
BBC article on the rise of concerns about relaxation in the modern age. MMY and
Herbert Benson both get mentions.
I liked this quote:
In 1966 a young psychiatrist at Harvard named Lee Birk undertook an
extraordinary experiment. Birk allowed himself to be administered a dose of
curare, th
Re "in Western culture there’s a common experience of self-judgment and
self-hatred that will arise for people when they’re doing spiritual practice—an
unworthiness that will arise":
That wouldn't be my problem!
Sounds like a version of that self-loathing that infects those attracted to
At the time of his death I think the footage of MMY's cremation by the Ganges
had a powerful impact. I suspect that even those who had long since fallen away
from the TMO and whose take on MMY was that he was little better than a
charlatan found it moving.
Why so? Because MMY had such an imp
Re "Chogyam Trungpa commented . . . our common human nature renders us
essentially flawed":
Chögyam Trungpa was too much a drunk, aggressive lech for my taste. All that
“crazy wisdom” master crap cuts no ice with me.
I think those who argue we are fallen creatures (western tradition) or
Meister Eckhart (Dominican c. 1260 – c. 1328). A seer - and the genuine article.
There is a large selection of quotes from which someone could pick and choose
which show Eckhart's awakened state.
But here's one problematic passage that has always intrigued me . . . You need
to know that E
Re "How many selves do you have? My angel side, my demon side? My spiritual
side, my worldly side?":
How many selves? One!
Each of us is that One Self. It's the identical One Self that is incarnating
right now as emptybill and S3raph and every other sentient being - including
the lost c
No wonder you need to claim an Emerson quote. Damn yanks were always confused
but it must make perfect sense across the pond in the local parish.
The quote was from Walt Whitman. But Emerson could have supplied a choice
sentence. As could Thoreau or William James or Emily Dickinson. All Yank
Re "You can call them "Syrian" or "ISIS" or "Muslim" but that is far from the
whole picture.":
They're Muslims - deal with it.
Talking about a WWII atrocity would you make the statement: "You can call them
"Nazi" or "fascist" or "racist" but that is far from the whole picture"? It's
not
Ever wondered why dogs often spin round and round before they poop?
According to research by Czech scientists, dogs appear to have some
sensitivity to the Earth’s magnetism and prefer to do their business while
facing north! Nobody seems quite certain how or why they do this.
Dogshaming
Re "The banal stupidity of thinking your way of life is superior":
Although there are admirable features of Islamic culture (eg, greater respect
for the elderly) just ask yourself if you would prefer to live in a
Muslim-dominated society rather than a western liberal democracy. No, I didn't
What Deepak is promoting is a philosophy - a theology, maybe - or perhaps "a
metaphysics" is a better term. I don't have any problem with that. His views
could be wrong of course but to demand that all explanations of life, the
universe and everything must conform to scientific methodology is si
An evocative collection of photos.
This is one of the (many) things the French have got right and the British
completely wrong: our town centres are dominated by the same chains and
franchises which have squeezed out most of the independent, family-owned
businesses. That wouldn't be so bad if
An evocative collection of photos.
This is one of the (many) things the French have got right and the British
completely wrong: our town centres are dominated by the same nationwide chains
and franchises which have squeezed out most of the independent, family-owned
businesses. That wouldn't b
Re "Myself I couldn't care less whether I keel over tomorrow or when I'm 92 or
302":
There are only four groups of people who are indifferent to the thought that
they could die tomorrow:
(A) Those who have achieved enlightenment and are established as The Witness.
To them everything el
Thanks for the recommendation. I've always (since I was a teen) had a soft spot
for worldviews that suggest there is in reality only One Self which appears to
"us" as many separate selves. So the basic plot device in which the division
between individuals starts to break down could be a parable
Re “If you go and read the Koran, sit back, afterwards, then honestly ask
yourself: what would Muhammad want?” says Harris.":
If Islam had remained a small cult in Mecca and someone today became curious
about their beliefs and so read through The Koran (I've read it twice) the
impression lef
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A PBS documentary on Islam:
Thanks - have bookmarked it to watch later.
Islam: Empire of Faith. Part 1: Prophet Muhammad and rise of Islam (full; PBS
Documentary) https://youtu.be/yX3UHNhQ1Zk
https://youtu.be/yX3UHNhQ1Zk
Islam: Emp
No - I'm not smarter than a Hong Kong six year old.
The answer (which I discovered via Google) is that we're looking at the
numbers upside down. The car drivers would see them as 86 87 88 89 90 91.
Geddit? Kids haven't yet had their lateral-thinking ability "educated" out of
them.
Re : "But as I was finishing my book on The Great Escape ":
I asked you a short while back if you were a professional writer as you do
post polished prose in your messages. You said you weren't!
You also seem to have lived in a lot of TMO mansions! You don't have a golden
crown at home do
Re "I experienced it, in states of mind that were as high and clear as I have
ever experienced in this incarnation":
Barry - apologies if you've answered this query in past posts - do you still
today engage in any "spiritual" practices? Could be meditation (TM even?);
self-flagellation; ritua
A quote from your article: "The months most associated with asthma (October and
July babies) . . . ": Aleister Crowley was born in October and suffered
severely from asthma throughout his adventurous life (for which he was
prescribed heroin with predictably disastrous consequences !). Coincide
Re " I would have said "Guy Wilson's book on the Great Escape."":
Excellent!
I must get into the habit of dropping into my conversation lines like: "As I
was finishing my monograph on The Latin Alexander Trallianus: the Text and
Transmission of a late Latin Medical Book . . . " before quic
Re my own post: I think my estimation of President Obama would rise
considerably if he were to appear at a Presidential press conference; pull out
a soft pack of Marlboro smokes; shake out a cigarette; flip open a Zippo
lighter; take a long pull on his cancer stick; slowly breathe out with a loo
Re "Michelle said when they moved to the White House she needed to get him to
stop.":
Not a good idea to have someone suffering withdrawal symptoms when they have a
finger on the nuclear trigger. Here in the UK the authorities are just now
debating whether to ban smoking in mental institution
Haven't heard that one for a while - thanks.
Is it just me or does any one else think that after Harrison took up with
Indian ways - and after the Beatles' break-up and him producing his solo albums
- his music did come across as a bit - what's the word? - a bit of a downer?
He's supposed to
Interesting list. The one labelled "self-deprecation" (fear of being great)
intrigues me. When you consider what a miracle it is that each of us is alive
in the first place; and when you add in the truly astonishing powers we each
have (such as the ability of our nervous systems to create the bo
His fave role (and my fave also) was as Lord Summerisle in The Wicker Man.
(Never, ever make the mistake of watching the dire remake with Nicolas Cage.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8HeTdkItUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8HeTdkItUQ
Does Paris have the Buddha-nature?
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Here's a nice video posted by a Facebook friend today. The sentiment at the
end made me think of my dog Paris and how much I miss him: "When someone you
love walks through your door, even if it happens five
Amen to everything you say here.
By the way, re the "Old Brown Shoe" track I posted: Back in the day I said to
a friend once, "I really, really like that new Beatles' single "The Ballad of
John and Yoko". Her face curled into a sneer and she said to me: "That's the
commercial side." The B-si
A 15-minute personality test http://hexaco.org/questionnaire_quiz, called the
Hexaco Personality Inventory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEXACO_model_of_personality_structure, allows
anyone to determine, scientifically, just how Machiavellian they are by
answering 100 hypothetical questions.
Re the comment: "I do object to any claim that these states somehow reveal the
reality of life. To my profound disappointment Sam Harris seems to have
absorbed this assumption also.":
If I understand what you are saying here I think that you read a different
book of Sam Harris's than I did!
The European Space Agency (Esa) says its comet lander, Philae, has woken up and
contacted Earth.
Philae, the first spacecraft to land on a comet, was dropped on to the surface
of Comet 67P by its mothership, Rosetta, last November. It worked for 60 hours
before its solar-powered battery ran
Gary Larson is one of my all-time favourites. To constantly and consistently
turn out those surreal cartoons of his that catch one off guard and leave you
chuckling in a good frame of mind show that he has a hotline to the Creative
Intelligence running the show. This one (below) is on the office
The tip that says: "Do not urinate in a tiger’s territory" could be a tricky
one to follow when faced with those snarling jaws!
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Always first with handy lifestyle tips, The Grauniad has provided a
cut-out-and-keep guide to surviving Tiger a
At the TM introductory lecture, the mantras are said to be ``meaningless sounds
whose effects are known''.
Setting aside the vexed question of how meaningless they actually are
(personally I like the idea that they are the vibration bodies of gods and
goddesses), I always found the absence
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Not sure, but I think OM was used for monks and nuns that learned TM.
Aha! I didn't know that.
Makes sense - if MMY really believed that it was only suitable for recluses. I
think it's been mentioned before on this site that the TMO line
Here's a thought: these bīja - "seed syllable" - mantras though not having
precise meanings are said to carry connections to spiritual principles. Look
again at our TMO mantras "whose effects are known".
Take one example. I won't mention the syllable (!) but one of the mantras used
is that o
Re "With ideas like 'heart chakra' you have to provide real demonstrable
confirmation of the existence of this feature":
Does everything have to be validated by scientific, objective standards?
Can't subjective experience count as evidence for an individual who has
experimented with activat
Re my post: " . . . "one of the mantras used is that of Saraswati. She is the
Hindu goddess of knowledge, music, arts, wisdom and learning. So surely someone
who was given this bija and used it during TM would gravitate towards a life
centred on science or the arts? . . . ":
No one responded
Re "overstimulated intellects":
That doesn't strike me as a common problem in today's world! This is the age
of dumbing down.
Do you know if TM teachers were ever taught that - beyond the general
stress-reducing effects of TM and talk of transcending and contacting pure
consciousness - sp
Re your comment: "I read somewhere that the placing of thoughts and emotions is
cultural":
I read somewhere a thought experiment that questioned our placing of the
centre of consciousness in our brains/heads. The philosopher asked us to
imagine a world just like ours but in which our eyes wer
Re "That damned flag.":
This one's for you . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZOozDHL0LA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZOozDHL0LA
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Don't forget. The 2nd Amendment was pretty much a compromise with the slave
owners who needed permissio
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