Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-23 Thread Tom Pall
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net wrote:


 I do enjoy your constant projections of peace, happiness and love on to
 others, I'm sure you make your heroes Gandhi, MLK and the Dalai Lama proud
 of you !!! Keep it up !!!



You're kidding, right?   Been to the Southern US lately?   Black and whites
mix.  Go to the same places to eat, lodge in the same places, go to school
together.  Except of course turn on the local news and wanna guess which
race accounts for the crime?   As you're being run off the road, as the
driver turns left in front of you with no warning and you have to stomp on
your brakes, as you're passed by someone doing 80 mpg in a school zone, take
a look at the race of the driver.  Well, of course the police can't stop
these people, as it's racial profiling, you see.  And of course America is
losing its competitive advantage because of all the quota systems and
reverse discrimination in effect.  Of course college tuition is so sky high
because someone has to pay for the full scholarships for students who don't
qualify to go to that school, let alone pass and graduate.

MLK had a dream.  It was a noble dream.  But social engineering doesn't work
as well as civil or mechanical engineering.   Too many unknown variables and
Nature always favors the hidden flaws in your design.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-22 Thread Sal Sunshine
In that case, why would he have questioned one of 
Barry's posts?  (See, now I'm being tart's apologist~~
I hope I'm doing a creditable job. ) 

Sal

On May 21, 2011, at 10:50 AM, whynotnow7 wrote:

From your reactions today, tartbrain, I assume you are taking the role of 
Barry and Vaj's apologist? If not, you are sure appearing that way to me dude. 
 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@... wrote:
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
 
 
 Boo Yah! Nicely delivered smack down. Thanks, Richard.
 
 
 YES! Great smack downs are what the good life is all about Socrotes
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread Vaj


On May 20, 2011, at 4:00 AM, turquoiseb wrote:


As are we. Because the fish seemingly have no choice
as to whether to bite or not. They are locked into
attachment behaviors that run their lives. All that
we do is dangle one of the attachments in front of
them, and they don't just bite, they *leap* onto
the hook.



And so therefore we provide a great and important service: helping  
people wake up to their own attachments.


I mean, imagine the absurdity of being attached to mere meditation!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread Peter
 
Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:

And so therefore we provide a great and important
service: helping people wake up to their own attachments.

Vaj, I can only surmise that you're joshing because if you're not, this would 
be very sad indeed. 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread Vaj


On May 20, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Peter wrote:


Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:

And so therefore we provide a great and important
service: helping people wake up to their own attachments.

Vaj, I can only surmise that you're joshing because if you're not,  
this would be very sad indeed.



Wait till you get my bill.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread Vaj

On May 20, 2011, at 9:13 PM, WillyTex wrote:

 Please check the description of this group on its
 home page. Nothing Vaj posts is anything other than
 on topic, according to that. What you're saying is
 that Vaj posts things you don't like...
 
 emptybill:
 So should we pray to you in your own Pure Land...
 
 Pure Land of Mukpo in Shamballa.


The hidden valley in NNE coast of Cape Breton? ...


RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-19 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of emptybill
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 9:29 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

 

  

Richard,

Calm down and consider the facts long demonstrated here on FFL.

Vaj is a classic newsgroup troll ... someone whose only purpose is to cause
everyone else to argue, to provoke readers to an emotional reaction and
to disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

A concern troll is a false flag http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag
pseudonym created by a user whose actual point of view
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_%28cognitive%29  is opposed to
the one that the user claims to hold. The concern troll posts in Web forums
devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group's
actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingroup_bias , but with professed concerns.
The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt  within the
group.

Vaj trolls here, along with Barry, strictly due to Rick choosing to allow
it.

He seems quite amused by their behaviors. 

I don't know about that, but I do know that I decided long ago that I'm not
going to police FFL. I don't have the time, and it is not my nature to do
so. There are enough FFL participants representing enough points of view
that the whole thing is self-regulating. Every perspective is
counter-balanced by some other. My interference would only upset the
balance. My status as a participant is equal to everyone else's. Some agree
with my point of view; others don't. I don't consider it to be more right
than others' perspectives, and certainly don't want FFL to be filtered
through it.