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Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. On Mon, 10/14/13, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 14, 2013, 8:20 PM OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean by unsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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Judy, this isn't the article I read years ago about migration from the coasts, but conveys the same idea: http://www.newgeography.com/content/002362-moving-coast On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 6:19 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. On Mon, 10/14/13, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 14, 2013, 8:20 PM OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean by unsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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Now I am curious about this. A high rent district is unsustainable because it takes more energy to continue than it generates? I would have thought you might have meant the high cost of living in these expensive neighborhoods that seem to be, according to you, on the East and West Coasts of the USA were unsustainable because people were not going to be able to afford them soon. If that had been what you meant (and apparently it was not based on your post above) then I only would like to add that there will always be those who can afford expensive things. There will always be rich people who can maintain a lifestyle that includes multiple houses, expensive cars, expensive horses and lavish holidays. I really don't see the final days of expensive real estate or those who can afford to live there. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:33:30 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:08 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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As I said, that makes no sense in this context. What will eventually end? Share wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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Share: Hint, try explaining what you meant in a way that could be interpreted at face value. This..[Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end, especially for an aging population] makes no sense whatsoever. You made a pretty simple statement; you don't need to try and pretend it was rooted in scientific principle. Just explain what you were thinking at face value. Smile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:08 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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shucks, I thought Dale Evans had joined FFL and was sharing our antics with her hubby Roy (-: On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:51 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Share: Hint, try explaining what you meant in a way that could be interpreted at face value. This..[Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end, especially for an aging population] makes no sense whatsoever. You made a pretty simple statement; you don't need to try and pretend it was rooted in scientific principle. Just explain what you were thinking at face value. Smile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:08 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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Share, you replied to the wrong conversation here. Oh yes, you know this don't you? Sharester, in general, as an observation, your attempts to obfuscate are obvious. Check it out! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: shucks, I thought Dale Evans had joined FFL and was sharing our antics with her hubby Roy (-: On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:51 AM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... wrote: Share: Hint, try explaining what you meant in a way that could be interpreted at face value. This..[Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end, especially for an aging population] makes no sense whatsoever. You made a pretty simple statement; you don't need to try and pretend it was rooted in scientific principle. Just explain what you were thinking at face value. Smile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:08 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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Judy, another angle: to the extent that something is self energizing, it will be self sustaining. To the extent it is self sustaining, to that extent it will continue. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: As I said, that makes no sense in this context. What will eventually end? Share wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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Share, no, you're still just pulling crap out of your ass instead of dealing with what Emily, Ann, and I have been pointing out to you. You do not make yourself look clever when you do that, to the contrary. As Emily says, your attempts to obfuscate (including this one) are obvious. You aren't fooling anybody. And this isn't that hard to figure out. What will continue (or not)? If you can force yourself to think about that question, you may begin to see where the problem lies. Ann and Emily and I all gave you good hints. Share wrote: Judy, another angle: to the extent that something is self energizing, it will be self sustaining. To the extent it is self sustaining, to that extent it will continue. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: As I said, that makes no sense in this context. What will eventually end? Share wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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Made ya look! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, you replied to the wrong conversation here. Oh yes, you know this don't you? Sharester, in general, as an observation, your attempts to obfuscate are obvious. Check it out! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: shucks, I thought Dale Evans had joined FFL and was sharing our antics with her hubby Roy (-: On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:51 AM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... wrote: Share: Hint, try explaining what you meant in a way that could be interpreted at face value. This..[Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end, especially for an aging population] makes no sense whatsoever. You made a pretty simple statement; you don't need to try and pretend it was rooted in scientific principle. Just explain what you were thinking at face value. Smile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:08 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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Judy, unsustainable as in reliance on fossil fuels because we're running out of them and they pollute horribly and they're expensive. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:04 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, no, you're still just pulling crap out of your ass instead of dealing with what Emily, Ann, and I have been pointing out to you. You do not make yourself look clever when you do that, to the contrary. As Emily says, your attempts to obfuscate (including this one) are obvious. You aren't fooling anybody. And this isn't that hard to figure out. What will continue (or not)? If you can force yourself to think about that question, you may begin to see where the problem lies. Ann and Emily and I all gave you good hints. Share wrote: Judy, another angle: to the extent that something is self energizing, it will be self sustaining. To the extent it is self sustaining, to that extent it will continue. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: As I said, that makes no sense in this context. What will eventually end? Share wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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Nope, that's no good either. Has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject at hand. What is keeping you from addressing the issue here? You must know you're not convincing anybody that you're even trying to deal with it. Is it fear? Are you afraid that if you do try to deal with it, you'll fail? Are you afraid you'll never understand what we're getting at? Is that why you keep tap-dancing away from it? One more time, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. Share wrote: Judy, unsustainable as in reliance on fossil fuels because we're running out of them and they pollute horribly and they're expensive. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:04 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share, no, you're still just pulling crap out of your ass instead of dealing with what Emily, Ann, and I have been pointing out to you. You do not make yourself look clever when you do that, to the contrary. As Emily says, your attempts to obfuscate (including this one) are obvious. You aren't fooling anybody. And this isn't that hard to figure out. What will continue (or not)? If you can force yourself to think about that question, you may begin to see where the problem lies. Ann and Emily and I all gave you good hints. Share wrote: Judy, another angle: to the extent that something is self energizing, it will be self sustaining. To the extent it is self sustaining, to that extent it will continue. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: As I said, that makes no sense in this context. What will eventually end? Share wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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Judy, I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything. To me my point was obvious when I referred to an aging population. I think overly expensive housing is unsustainable for those living on fixed and low incomes. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:43 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Nope, that's no good either. Has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject at hand. What is keeping you from addressing the issue here? You must know you're not convincing anybody that you're even trying to deal with it. Is it fear? Are you afraid that if you do try to deal with it, you'll fail? Are you afraid you'll never understand what we're getting at? Is that why you keep tap-dancing away from it? One more time, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. Share wrote: Judy, unsustainable as in reliance on fossil fuels because we're running out of them and they pollute horribly and they're expensive. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:04 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share, no, you're still just pulling crap out of your ass instead of dealing with what Emily, Ann, and I have been pointing out to you. You do not make yourself look clever when you do that, to the contrary. As Emily says, your attempts to obfuscate (including this one) are obvious. You aren't fooling anybody. And this isn't that hard to figure out. What will continue (or not)? If you can force yourself to think about that question, you may begin to see where the problem lies. Ann and Emily and I all gave you good hints. Share wrote: Judy, another angle: to the extent that something is self energizing, it will be self sustaining. To the extent it is self sustaining, to that extent it will continue. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: As I said, that makes no sense in this context. What will eventually end? Share wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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You must have meant more than that, Share. Overly expensive housing is unsustainable for anyone who doesn't have an overly high income. And of course it doesn't matter how old you are. Nobody needs to be convinced of that, nor does anyone even need to have the point made. It's a truism. Come on, now, you can do it. Give it another try. Share wrote: Judy, I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything. To me my point was obvious when I referred to an aging population. I think overly expensive housing is unsustainable for those living on fixed and low incomes. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:43 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Nope, that's no good either. Has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject at hand. What is keeping you from addressing the issue here? You must know you're not convincing anybody that you're even trying to deal with it. Is it fear? Are you afraid that if you do try to deal with it, you'll fail? Are you afraid you'll never understand what we're getting at? Is that why you keep tap-dancing away from it? One more time, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. Share wrote: Judy, unsustainable as in reliance on fossil fuels because we're running out of them and they pollute horribly and they're expensive. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:04 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share, no, you're still just pulling crap out of your ass instead of dealing with what Emily, Ann, and I have been pointing out to you. You do not make yourself look clever when you do that, to the contrary. As Emily says, your attempts to obfuscate (including this one) are obvious. You aren't fooling anybody. And this isn't that hard to figure out. What will continue (or not)? If you can force yourself to think about that question, you may begin to see where the problem lies. Ann and Emily and I all gave you good hints. Share wrote: Judy, another angle: to the extent that something is self energizing, it will be self sustaining. To the extent it is self sustaining, to that extent it will continue. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: As I said, that makes no sense in this context. What will eventually end? Share wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the
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OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean by unsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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Reminds me of the year Seattle refused to salt the roads in an effort to be green and create pack...ha ha...idealism at its finest; the potholes created that winter were the best ever. http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2008551284_snowcleanup23m.html http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2008551284_snowcleanup23m.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Bhairitu, When I was living in Seattle, I noticed that a thin layer of snow would just about shut down the entire city. My old boss, back then, would let us go home when it started to snow. I thought that was very reasonable. Better be safe than sorry. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And when I lived in Seattle and it snowed, I and other Subaru owners were about the only ones on the road. Front wheel drive. My Forester is All Wheel Drive but that axle costs mileage due to its weight. I can only think of one time the AWD came in handy and that was turning around on a road when I had to go off into mud and the Forester cut right through it like it wasn't even there. On 10/14/2013 03:18 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Share, We technically have four seasons over here. But it doesn't snow over here during the winter--which is just fine with me. When I was in Seattle, WA, I used to live on a hilly road. During the winter, the road became frozen with ice. And, I foolishly drove my car down the hill knowing that the car won't stop even if you put the brakes on. Luckily, I never got into an accident using that maneuver. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. And I do like 4 seasons. Do you all have four seasons? On Monday, October 14, 2013 1:50 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Share, That Zone sounds pretty cool. Everyone is welcome to move over here. We already have vastu houses in San Diego. But I don't know of anyone who has built one in the northern California area. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: And he's going to build a yaqui vastu house. Maybe he and Rita will invite you over so you can sit in the Zone of Tranquility (-: On Monday, October 14, 2013 11:18 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: Probably the best thing to happen is for the US to collapse into one big dung heap. It's old and broken down. It's suffering a bad hangover from an artificial boom made to steal property from the middle class. It should break up into several countries with California combined with western Washington and Oregon one of them. We don't get the money we pay to the feds back anyway. The Red states are getting our money. Watching Jerry Brown he seems to be gearing up to the first Prime Minister of Ecotopia. And. we're getting Willy moving here! On 10/14/2013 08:20 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: This article shows the complicated way for this to happen. But it appears that it's going to take a long time for the process to be completed. In the meantime, the federal government would default on its obligations and the economy would collapse. IMO, the best way to solve this crisis is to toss a coin. Head means pass a CR and raise the debt ceiling for one year, with Obamacare. Tail means pass a CR and reaise the debt ceiling for one year, without Obamacare. http://news.yahoo.com/supreme-court-resolve-debt-ceiling-crisis-103405149--politics.html http://news.yahoo.com/supreme-court-resolve-debt-ceiling-crisis-103405149--politics.html
