Re: [FairfieldLife] FW: Thoughts on what is going on in Israel

2006-07-17 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/17/06 6:30:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  From a 
  friend of mine. I haven’t even read the whole thing, but I thought it might be 
  of interest here:
  I am sharing this with you. My sister, now vacationing 
  in the US, sent it to me from friends of hers in Israel. These are such 
  horrific times in Israel again made so much worse by the sympathy of much of 
  the world for a people who wants to destroy the Jews of Israel and take 
  possession of the land, with no intention or desire to negotiate a meaningful 
  peace. SteveEMAIL CORRESPONDENCE 
  
  
  NEWSLETTER - ISRAEL AT WAR JULY 2006 
  
  Dear 
  Friends,Unfortunately Israel is at war. Fortunately 
  Israel is at war.Better to face up to the enemy(Iran) now rather than 
  later, when he is stronger.This is the opening of War against Iran, who 
  are using their proxies ˆ the Hizbullah in Lebanon and the Hamas in the 
  Palestine Authority ˆ to „soften up‰ Israel for the kill.There is no doubt 
  at all that Iran intends to make good on its threats to destroy Israel 
  and every Jew living there. There is no doubt at all that Iran will never 
  be stopped by words alone, nor by economic sanctions if they ever take 
  place. And Iran‚s aim is to lead Islam to world domination. Israel is the 
  beginning.For far too long we in Israel have been trying to find 
  favor with the Western Powers ˆ particularly in Europe ˆ by practicing the 
  policy of „Restraint‰ against Islamic/Palestinian Terror. To the extent of 
  supporting ŒUnilateral Disengagement‚, first from Lebanon in 2000 and then 
  from Gaza last year. I confess that I was one of those supporting this 
  policy of Israel leaving without any agreements ˆ not because I believed it 
  would solve the 4,000 year war between the Arabs and the Jews, but because I 
  was tired and weary of the loss of life amongst our soldiers and thought that 
  this policy may give us a 5 to 10 year pause in the battle, enable us to rest 
  for a while before the Œnext round‚. The policy backfired as the Jihadi 
  terrorists and their supporters in the Arab/Islam world saw our unilateral 
  withdrawal from Lebanon and Gaza as an Islamic victory over Israel ˆ the 
  „brave Palestinians‰ who proudly excel in murdering innocent civilians, forced 
  Israel to retreat with our tail between our legs. (A majority of Moslems 
  worldwide support the Palestinians, not in forming a Palestinian State 
  alongside Israel but in forming a Palestinian State instead of Israel ˆ 
  i.e. destroying Israel).The terrorists became ever bolder, and in the last 
  week actually entered the borders of Israel from Gaza and from Lebanon, and on 
  our own Œundisputed‚ soil ambushed our soldiers guarding the borders ˆ killing 
  8 soldiers and kidnapping another 3.This was the wake-up call, even for 
  the most left-wing liberals in Israel. Such actions are the same as a 
  declaration of War, and demand a very severe reaction from Israel. The policy 
  of Restraint ( turning the other cheek, Œunderstanding Œpoor Arafat or Abu 
  Mazen ˆand now the Œmoderate wing‚ of the Hamas in the Gaza Strip) has led 
  only to more and more severe attacks against us, and has become 
  bankrupt.The Arabs and Iranian Jihadists believe that Israel is tired of 
  fighting (correct), and can be forced by terrorism into making more and more 
  political concessions without getting anything in return from the Palestinians 
  (this was correct until this week). The Arabs believe that the Israelis can be 
  defeated on the battlefield by changing the rules of the game ˆ whereby the 
  Palestinians „are not able‰ to control their many terrorist organizations 
  operating against Israel, whereas the Israelis are expected NOT to react in 
  kind, not to use our strengths and definitely not to indulge in what the 
  French and Europeans love to call „disproportionate warfare‰ to Palestinian 
  Terror.In other words, when the Palestinians killed 20 Israelis in a 
  homicide bombing at a restaurant in 2003, Israel was expected to react 
  „responsibly‰ and not attack the terrorists because they were holed up in a 
  mosque or a hospital or even in their family homes. If we did attack them, and 
  any civilians were killed in the cross-fire, this was considered to be „a 
  disproportionate reaction‰ by Israel ˆ and worthy of the same degree of 
  condemnation as the actions of the Palestinians who actually set out to kill 
  innocent Israeli civilians.Well, I hope our leaders have finally come to 
  their senses. We need to go after the terrorists and their leaders, no matter 
  who they are and where they are. We need to kill them. Before they 
  kill us. And if there is any collateral damage caused by Israeli pursuit 
  of the terrorists, well that‚s just too bad. Palestinians should know not to 
  associate with terrorists, not to allow them freedom of movement ˆ and most of 
  all NOT to vote 

Re: [FairfieldLife] FW: Thoughts on what is going on in Israel

2006-07-17 Thread Peter
The attitude reflected in this article is what is
destroying Israel. You can not fight madmen by
becoming mad yourself. 

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/17/06 6:30:37 A.M. Central
 Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
  
 From a  friend of mine. I haven’t even read the
 whole thing, but I thought it 
 might be  of interest here:
 
 
 I am sharing this with you. My sister, now
 vacationing  in the US, sent it to 
 me from friends of hers in Israel.  These are such 
 horrific times in Israel 
 again made so much worse by the sympathy of much of 
 the world for a people 
 who wants to destroy the Jews of Israel and take 
 possession of the land, with 
 no intention or desire to negotiate a meaningful 
 peace.   Steve
 
 EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE   
 
 NEWSLETTER - ISRAEL AT WAR  JULY 2006   
 
 
 Dear  Friends,
 
 Unfortunately Israel is at war. 
 Fortunately  Israel is at war.
 Better to face up to the enemy(Iran) now rather than
  later, when he is 
 stronger.
 This is the opening of War against Iran, who  are
 using their proxies ˆ the 
 Hizbullah in Lebanon and the Hamas in the  Palestine
 Authority ˆ to „soften up‰
  Israel for the kill.
 There is no doubt  at all that Iran intends to make
 good on its threats to 
 destroy Israel  and every Jew living there. There is
 no doubt at all that Iran 
 will never  be stopped by words alone, nor by
 economic sanctions if they ever 
 take  place. And Iran‚s aim is to lead Islam to
 world domination. Israel is the 
  beginning.
 For far too long we in Israel have been trying to
 find  favor with the 
 Western Powers ˆ particularly in Europe ˆ by
 practicing the  policy of „Restraint‰ 
 against Islamic/Palestinian Terror. To the extent of
  supporting ŒUnilateral 
 Disengagement‚, first from Lebanon in 2000 and
 then  from Gaza last year. 
 I confess that I was one of those supporting this 
 policy of Israel leaving 
 without any agreements ˆ not because I believed it 
 would solve the 4,000 year 
 war between the Arabs and the Jews, but because I 
 was tired and weary of the 
 loss of life amongst our soldiers and thought that 
 this policy may give us a 
 5 to 10 year pause in the battle, enable us to rest 
 for a while before the Œ
 next round‚. 
 The policy backfired as the Jihadi  terrorists and
 their supporters in the 
 Arab/Islam world saw our unilateral  withdrawal from
 Lebanon and Gaza as an 
 Islamic victory over Israel ˆ the  „brave
 Palestinians‰ who proudly excel in 
 murdering innocent civilians, forced  Israel to
 retreat with our tail between our 
 legs. 
 (A majority of Moslems  worldwide support the
 Palestinians, not in forming a 
 Palestinian State  alongside Israel but in forming a
 Palestinian State instead 
 of Israel ˆ  i.e. destroying Israel).
 The terrorists became ever bolder, and in the last 
 week actually entered the 
 borders of Israel from Gaza and from Lebanon, and on
  our own Œundisputed‚ 
 soil ambushed our soldiers guarding the borders ˆ
 killing  8 soldiers and 
 kidnapping another 3.
 This was the wake-up call, even for  the most
 left-wing liberals in Israel. 
 Such actions are the same as a  declaration of War,
 and demand a very severe 
 reaction from Israel. The policy  of Restraint (
 turning the other cheek, Œ
 understanding Œpoor Arafat or Abu  Mazen ˆand now
 the Œmoderate wing‚ of the 
 Hamas in the Gaza Strip) has led  only to more and
 more severe attacks against us, 
 and has become  bankrupt.
 The Arabs and Iranian Jihadists believe that Israel
 is tired of  fighting 
 (correct), and can be forced by terrorism into
 making more and more  political 
 concessions without getting anything in return from
 the Palestinians  (this was 
 correct until this week). The Arabs believe that the
 Israelis can be  defeated 
 on the battlefield by changing the rules of the game
 ˆ whereby the  
 Palestinians „are not able‰ to control their
 many terrorist organizations  operating 
 against Israel, whereas the Israelis are expected
 NOT to react in  kind, not to 
 use our strengths and definitely not to indulge in
 what the  French and 
 Europeans love to call „disproportionate
 warfare‰ to Palestinian  Terror.
 In other words, when the Palestinians killed 20
 Israelis in a  homicide 
 bombing at a restaurant in 2003, Israel was expected
 to react  „responsibly‰ and 
 not attack the terrorists because they were holed up
 in a  mosque or a hospital 
 or even in their family homes. If we did attack
 them, and  any civilians were 
 killed in the cross-fire, this was considered to be
 „a  disproportionate 
 reaction‰ by Israel ˆ and worthy of the same
 degree of  condemnation as the 
 actions of the Palestinians who actually set out to
 kill  innocent Israeli 
 civilians.
 Well, I hope our leaders have finally come to  their
 senses. We need to go 
 after the terrorists and their leaders, no matter 
 who they are and where they 
 are. 
 We need 

Re: [FairfieldLife] FW: Thoughts on what is going on in Israel

2006-07-17 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/17/06 10:47:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  The attitude reflected in this article is what isdestroying Israel. You 
  can not fight madmen bybecoming mad yourself. 
  

However M did say once, "if your neighbor can not be quiet out 
of love and respect, let him be quiet out of fear." First symposium on the 
Science of Creative Intelligence, June 1971 , Amherst Massachusetts. 

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