[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > to teach meditation? Seems to me like that might be an important > > > thing for a meditation student to know: their teacher no longer > > > respects her OWN teacher -the one that taught her what she is > > > teaching them. > > > > That's a contradiction that you see here on FFL all the time. Every > > aspect of the messenger's ethics and credibility is questioned, but > > the basic message is not. Sometimes it amazes me. > > > > JohnY > > You are easily amazed. The basic message isn't questioned > because it is first rate. That's why. It's not the product > that is at fault; it's some of the packaging and all of the > the marketing and administration. > Uns. For some reason I just had a flash of the scene from 2010 where the revived astronaught informed his wife that "something wonderful" was about to happen. Think about how all the horrible and incomprehensible and inscrutable things involving the monoliths happened, and then suddenly, a new star... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > At that time I was very devoted to MMY. I did not agree with the > > new > > > course-fees and did not want to sign a new agreement form, that is > > > why I was kicked out of the TMO in Norway. It took me some years to > > > work through the whole process, and in that time I started to ask > > > critical questions about the TMO and MMY, because I needed to > > > understand what was going on. > > > Now, I can see it was a very good thing that happened, because I > > had > > > to think for myself, not only lean back and follow blindly. > > > Ingegerd > > > > But again, you have said that you have no respect for MMY or the TMO. > > Why shouldn't the TMO say that you have let MMY down? Do you inform > > your students that you no longer respect the guy who taught you how > > to teach meditation? Seems to me like that might be an important > > thing for a meditation student to know: their teacher no longer > > respects her OWN teacher -the one that taught her what she is > > teaching them. > > > > That's a contradiction that you see here on FFL all the time. Every > aspect of the messenger's ethics and credibility is questioned, but > the basic message is not. Sometimes it amazes me. > > JohnY Actually a sign that MMY's teaching works, I think... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > to teach meditation? Seems to me like that might be an important > > thing for a meditation student to know: their teacher no longer > > respects her OWN teacher -the one that taught her what she is > > teaching them. > > That's a contradiction that you see here on FFL all the time. Every > aspect of the messenger's ethics and credibility is questioned, but > the basic message is not. Sometimes it amazes me. > > JohnY You are easily amazed. The basic message isn't questioned because it is first rate. That's why. It's not the product that is at fault; it's some of the packaging and all of the the marketing and administration. Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At that time I was very devoted to MMY. I did not agree with the > new > > course-fees and did not want to sign a new agreement form, that is > > why I was kicked out of the TMO in Norway. It took me some years to > > work through the whole process, and in that time I started to ask > > critical questions about the TMO and MMY, because I needed to > > understand what was going on. > > Now, I can see it was a very good thing that happened, because I > had > > to think for myself, not only lean back and follow blindly. > > Ingegerd > > But again, you have said that you have no respect for MMY or the TMO. > Why shouldn't the TMO say that you have let MMY down? Do you inform > your students that you no longer respect the guy who taught you how > to teach meditation? Seems to me like that might be an important > thing for a meditation student to know: their teacher no longer > respects her OWN teacher -the one that taught her what she is > teaching them. > That's a contradiction that you see here on FFL all the time. Every aspect of the messenger's ethics and credibility is questioned, but the basic message is not. Sometimes it amazes me. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
Yes, and also you would have been kicked out anyway. - Original Message - From: Ingegerd To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi) At that time I was very devoted to MMY. I did not agree with the new course-fees and did not want to sign a new agreement form, that is why I was kicked out of the TMO in Norway. It took me some years to work through the whole process, and in that time I started to ask critical questions about the TMO and MMY, because I needed to understand what was going on.Now, I can see it was a very good thing that happened, because I had to think for myself, not only lean back and follow blindly.Ingegerd--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > The TMO in Norway tried to make a lot of fuss about that I teach > > people outside the TMO, with threats and Lawyers and everything. > One > > day I received a message on my answering machine from the > > International TMO in Holland, they wanted to talk to me. I send > them > > an e-mail and said "don't talk to me, talk to my Lawyer", and gave > > them his name and phonenumber. I did not hear anything more.> > The TMO used every dirty means to try to stop me, using old TM-> > Teachers, they spread lies about me to Sidhas etc. They mentioned > me > > on WPAs as a very bad example because I let MMY down.> > It was really an interesting process. I think that is an experience > > many Independent TM-Teachers had, and that is one reason that many > TM-> > Teachers initiate in secret, and do not go out openly.> > Ingegerd> > > You have indicated that you have *absolutely* no respect for MMY, so > how is it a lie to say that you have "let MMY down?" To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
I tell my students that I am not longer a part of the TMO and why. (because of the course-fee). I tell them about the Vedic Tradition and that MMY brought TM to the West. I think we can discuss what came first - the hen or the egg - over and over again. Who let who down. I cannot be a part of an organisation that is so far from my values any more, and MMY set the standards for the TMO. I have nothing against MMY as a Human Being, but I do not like some of his actions, as mentioned in other mails. One TM-Teacher participated in Guru Purnima this summer, seing MMY on the big screen. and said that MMY now looks very, very old. And I usually respect old people. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At that time I was very devoted to MMY. I did not agree with the > new > > course-fees and did not want to sign a new agreement form, that is > > why I was kicked out of the TMO in Norway. It took me some years to > > work through the whole process, and in that time I started to ask > > critical questions about the TMO and MMY, because I needed to > > understand what was going on. > > Now, I can see it was a very good thing that happened, because I > had > > to think for myself, not only lean back and follow blindly. > > Ingegerd > > But again, you have said that you have no respect for MMY or the TMO. > Why shouldn't the TMO say that you have let MMY down? Do you inform > your students that you no longer respect the guy who taught you how > to teach meditation? Seems to me like that might be an important > thing for a meditation student to know: their teacher no longer > respects her OWN teacher -the one that taught her what she is > teaching them. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The TMO in Norway tried to make a lot of fuss about that I > teach > > > > people outside the TMO, with threats and Lawyers and > everything. > > > One > > > > day I received a message on my answering machine from the > > > > International TMO in Holland, they wanted to talk to me. I send > > > them > > > > an e-mail and said "don't talk to me, talk to my Lawyer", and > > gave > > > > them his name and phonenumber. I did not hear anything more. > > > > The TMO used every dirty means to try to stop me, using old TM- > > > > Teachers, they spread lies about me to Sidhas etc. They > mentioned > > > me > > > > on WPAs as a very bad example because I let MMY down. > > > > It was really an interesting process. I think that is an > > experience > > > > many Independent TM-Teachers had, and that is one reason that > > many > > > TM- > > > > Teachers initiate in secret, and do not go out openly. > > > > Ingegerd > > > > > > > > > You have indicated that you have *absolutely* no respect for MMY, > > so > > > how is it a lie to say that you have "let MMY down?" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At that time I was very devoted to MMY. I did not agree with the new > course-fees and did not want to sign a new agreement form, that is > why I was kicked out of the TMO in Norway. It took me some years to > work through the whole process, and in that time I started to ask > critical questions about the TMO and MMY, because I needed to > understand what was going on. > Now, I can see it was a very good thing that happened, because I had > to think for myself, not only lean back and follow blindly. > Ingegerd But again, you have said that you have no respect for MMY or the TMO. Why shouldn't the TMO say that you have let MMY down? Do you inform your students that you no longer respect the guy who taught you how to teach meditation? Seems to me like that might be an important thing for a meditation student to know: their teacher no longer respects her OWN teacher -the one that taught her what she is teaching them. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The TMO in Norway tried to make a lot of fuss about that I teach > > > people outside the TMO, with threats and Lawyers and everything. > > One > > > day I received a message on my answering machine from the > > > International TMO in Holland, they wanted to talk to me. I send > > them > > > an e-mail and said "don't talk to me, talk to my Lawyer", and > gave > > > them his name and phonenumber. I did not hear anything more. > > > The TMO used every dirty means to try to stop me, using old TM- > > > Teachers, they spread lies about me to Sidhas etc. They mentioned > > me > > > on WPAs as a very bad example because I let MMY down. > > > It was really an interesting process. I think that is an > experience > > > many Independent TM-Teachers had, and that is one reason that > many > > TM- > > > Teachers initiate in secret, and do not go out openly. > > > Ingegerd > > > > > > You have indicated that you have *absolutely* no respect for MMY, > so > > how is it a lie to say that you have "let MMY down?" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
At that time I was very devoted to MMY. I did not agree with the new course-fees and did not want to sign a new agreement form, that is why I was kicked out of the TMO in Norway. It took me some years to work through the whole process, and in that time I started to ask critical questions about the TMO and MMY, because I needed to understand what was going on. Now, I can see it was a very good thing that happened, because I had to think for myself, not only lean back and follow blindly. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The TMO in Norway tried to make a lot of fuss about that I teach > > people outside the TMO, with threats and Lawyers and everything. > One > > day I received a message on my answering machine from the > > International TMO in Holland, they wanted to talk to me. I send > them > > an e-mail and said "don't talk to me, talk to my Lawyer", and gave > > them his name and phonenumber. I did not hear anything more. > > The TMO used every dirty means to try to stop me, using old TM- > > Teachers, they spread lies about me to Sidhas etc. They mentioned > me > > on WPAs as a very bad example because I let MMY down. > > It was really an interesting process. I think that is an experience > > many Independent TM-Teachers had, and that is one reason that many > TM- > > Teachers initiate in secret, and do not go out openly. > > Ingegerd > > > You have indicated that you have *absolutely* no respect for MMY, so > how is it a lie to say that you have "let MMY down?" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The TMO in Norway tried to make a lot of fuss about that I teach > people outside the TMO, with threats and Lawyers and everything. One > day I received a message on my answering machine from the > International TMO in Holland, they wanted to talk to me. I send them > an e-mail and said "don't talk to me, talk to my Lawyer", and gave > them his name and phonenumber. I did not hear anything more. > The TMO used every dirty means to try to stop me, using old TM- > Teachers, they spread lies about me to Sidhas etc. They mentioned me > on WPAs as a very bad example because I let MMY down. > It was really an interesting process. I think that is an experience > many Independent TM-Teachers had, and that is one reason that many TM- > Teachers initiate in secret, and do not go out openly. > Ingegerd You have indicated that you have *absolutely* no respect for MMY, so how is it a lie to say that you have "let MMY down?" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
The TMO in Norway tried to make a lot of fuss about that I teach people outside the TMO, with threats and Lawyers and everything. One day I received a message on my answering machine from the International TMO in Holland, they wanted to talk to me. I send them an e-mail and said "don't talk to me, talk to my Lawyer", and gave them his name and phonenumber. I did not hear anything more. The TMO used every dirty means to try to stop me, using old TM- Teachers, they spread lies about me to Sidhas etc. They mentioned me on WPAs as a very bad example because I let MMY down. It was really an interesting process. I think that is an experience many Independent TM-Teachers had, and that is one reason that many TM- Teachers initiate in secret, and do not go out openly. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paul got many letters from the legal department at MIU. I believe it > > was from Lenny Goldman. He showed me the letters and he was a bit > > nervous. Essentially he ignored them, though they did cause stress. > > This was probably in the range of 6 years or so ago (give or take a > > year or two). > > > > Paul's main TM audience has come from people in 12-Step programs. They > > get a small group together who want to learn, someone puts him up, and > > he flies to them. It works out well for all. And because it is word of > > mouth among friends he ends up going back repeatedly to areas where > > people learn so they get follow-up and group meditations from time to > > time. > > > Thanks, Ken - I appreciate the info. I wonder if they've harassed him > since he's put up his website? Does anyone have any connection with > the folks at TM Independent in Britian? I wonder what kind of leagel > response they are getting. Any Attorneys in the house? > > > JohnY > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Kirk > > > > You are missing the point!! > > > > Paul Brown, for example, has NOTHING-NADA-ZERO-ZIP to do with > the TMO. > > > > He teaches the TM technique. He has been threatened up the wazoo by > > > > the TMO and they finally have left him alone. The people he teachers > > > > will be turned away from the TMO if they are asked who their teacher > > > > is. So you can rest assured that anyone he teaches will, by default, > > > > not be allowed to "belong" to the TMO. > > > > Ken > > > > > > > Do you know anything about how they tried to work him over? And how > > > he dealt with it? Have a friend that is a lawyer? > > > > > > JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > Paul got many letters from the legal department at MIU. I > > believe it > > > > was from Lenny Goldman. He showed me the letters and he was a > bit > > > > nervous. Essentially he ignored them, though they did cause > > stress. > > > > This was probably in the range of 6 years or so ago (give or > > take a > > > > year or two). > > > > > > that's major harrassment alright. Along the lines of sending > Chili > > > Palmer to break your hands, yep, yep. > > > > > > > > There's a big difference, though. > > > > Chili Palmer had alot of class! > > So the MUM legal department breaks no hands, but has no class, while > Chili Palmer breaks hands and kills people but has class, and this > makes him better? Speak sweetly but carry a big stick... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Paul got many letters from the legal department at MIU. I > believe it > > > was from Lenny Goldman. He showed me the letters and he was a bit > > > nervous. Essentially he ignored them, though they did cause > stress. > > > This was probably in the range of 6 years or so ago (give or > take a > > > year or two). > > > > that's major harrassment alright. Along the lines of sending Chili > > Palmer to break your hands, yep, yep. > > > > There's a big difference, though. > > Chili Palmer had alot of class! So the MUM legal department breaks no hands, but has no class, while Chili Palmer breaks hands and kills people but has class, and this makes him better? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Paul got many letters from the legal department at MIU. I believe it > > was from Lenny Goldman. He showed me the letters and he was a bit > > nervous. Essentially he ignored them, though they did cause stress. > > This was probably in the range of 6 years or so ago (give or take a > > year or two). > > that's major harrassment alright. Along the lines of sending Chili > Palmer to break your hands, yep, yep. There's a big difference, though. Chili Palmer had alot of class! > > > > > Paul's main TM audience has come from people in 12-Step programs. > They > > get a small group together who want to learn, someone puts him up, > and > > he flies to them. It works out well for all. And because it is word > of > > mouth among friends he ends up going back repeatedly to areas where > > people learn so they get follow-up and group meditations from time > to > > time. > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Kirk > > > > You are missing the point!! > > > > Paul Brown, for example, has NOTHING-NADA-ZERO-ZIP to do with > the TMO. > > > > He teaches the TM technique. He has been threatened up the > wazoo by > > > > the TMO and they finally have left him alone. The people he > teachers > > > > will be turned away from the TMO if they are asked who their > teacher > > > > is. So you can rest assured that anyone he teaches will, by > default, > > > > not be allowed to "belong" to the TMO. > > > > Ken > > > > > > > Do you know anything about how they tried to work him over? And > how > > > he dealt with it? Have a friend that is a lawyer? > > > > > > JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Yes he does, as taught. > > > > > > > > It's funny because a few years ago I would have had a somewhat > > negative reaction to that but since -- thanks to someone who > > reproduced it on this forum -- MMY said that there's value to those > > teaching TM outside the auspices of the Movement, hey, what am I to > > think...if the leader of the organisation doesn't mind, why should > I? > > > > He said that if people were getting something out of an artificial > construct of one of his students, he was not dissatisfied. > > I think that was the exact term he used: "not dissatisfied." > > > I found the exact quote (from message 46099): Maharishi: What I have taught, because it has it's eternal authenticity in the vedic literature and you should know that, how many? 30 - 40 thousand teachers of TM I have trained and many of them have gone on their own and they may not call it Maharishi's TM but they are teaching it in some different name here and there. So there's a lot of these, artificial things are going on, doesn't matter, as long as the man is getting something useful to make his life better, we are satisfied. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul got many letters from the legal department at MIU. I believe it > was from Lenny Goldman. He showed me the letters and he was a bit > nervous. Essentially he ignored them, though they did cause stress. > This was probably in the range of 6 years or so ago (give or take a > year or two). that's major harrassment alright. Along the lines of sending Chili Palmer to break your hands, yep, yep. > > Paul's main TM audience has come from people in 12-Step programs. They > get a small group together who want to learn, someone puts him up, and > he flies to them. It works out well for all. And because it is word of > mouth among friends he ends up going back repeatedly to areas where > people learn so they get follow-up and group meditations from time to > time. > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Kirk > > > You are missing the point!! > > > Paul Brown, for example, has NOTHING-NADA-ZERO-ZIP to do with the TMO. > > > He teaches the TM technique. He has been threatened up the wazoo by > > > the TMO and they finally have left him alone. The people he teachers > > > will be turned away from the TMO if they are asked who their teacher > > > is. So you can rest assured that anyone he teaches will, by default, > > > not be allowed to "belong" to the TMO. > > > Ken > > > > > Do you know anything about how they tried to work him over? And how > > he dealt with it? Have a friend that is a lawyer? > > > > JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Yes he does, as taught. > > > > It's funny because a few years ago I would have had a somewhat > negative reaction to that but since -- thanks to someone who > reproduced it on this forum -- MMY said that there's value to those > teaching TM outside the auspices of the Movement, hey, what am I to > think...if the leader of the organisation doesn't mind, why should I? > He said that if people were getting something out of an artificial construct of one of his students, he was not dissatisfied. I think that was the exact term he used: "not dissatisfied." > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul got many letters from the legal department at MIU. I believe it > was from Lenny Goldman. He showed me the letters and he was a bit > nervous. Essentially he ignored them, though they did cause stress. > This was probably in the range of 6 years or so ago (give or take a > year or two). > > Paul's main TM audience has come from people in 12-Step programs. They > get a small group together who want to learn, someone puts him up, and > he flies to them. It works out well for all. And because it is word of > mouth among friends he ends up going back repeatedly to areas where > people learn so they get follow-up and group meditations from time to > time. > Thanks, Ken - I appreciate the info. I wonder if they've harassed him since he's put up his website? Does anyone have any connection with the folks at TM Independent in Britian? I wonder what kind of leagel response they are getting. Any Attorneys in the house? JohnY > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Kirk > > > You are missing the point!! > > > Paul Brown, for example, has NOTHING-NADA-ZERO-ZIP to do with the TMO. > > > He teaches the TM technique. He has been threatened up the wazoo by > > > the TMO and they finally have left him alone. The people he teachers > > > will be turned away from the TMO if they are asked who their teacher > > > is. So you can rest assured that anyone he teaches will, by default, > > > not be allowed to "belong" to the TMO. > > > Ken > > > > > Do you know anything about how they tried to work him over? And how > > he dealt with it? Have a friend that is a lawyer? > > > > JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
Paul got many letters from the legal department at MIU. I believe it was from Lenny Goldman. He showed me the letters and he was a bit nervous. Essentially he ignored them, though they did cause stress. This was probably in the range of 6 years or so ago (give or take a year or two). Paul's main TM audience has come from people in 12-Step programs. They get a small group together who want to learn, someone puts him up, and he flies to them. It works out well for all. And because it is word of mouth among friends he ends up going back repeatedly to areas where people learn so they get follow-up and group meditations from time to time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kirk > > You are missing the point!! > > Paul Brown, for example, has NOTHING-NADA-ZERO-ZIP to do with the TMO. > > He teaches the TM technique. He has been threatened up the wazoo by > > the TMO and they finally have left him alone. The people he teachers > > will be turned away from the TMO if they are asked who their teacher > > is. So you can rest assured that anyone he teaches will, by default, > > not be allowed to "belong" to the TMO. > > Ken > > > Do you know anything about how they tried to work him over? And how > he dealt with it? Have a friend that is a lawyer? > > JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kirk > You are missing the point!! > Paul Brown, for example, has NOTHING-NADA-ZERO-ZIP to do with the TMO. > He teaches the TM technique. He has been threatened up the wazoo by > the TMO and they finally have left him alone. The people he teachers > will be turned away from the TMO if they are asked who their teacher > is. So you can rest assured that anyone he teaches will, by default, > not be allowed to "belong" to the TMO. > Ken > Do you know anything about how they tried to work him over? And how he dealt with it? Have a friend that is a lawyer? JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes he does, as taught. It's funny because a few years ago I would have had a somewhat negative reaction to that but since -- thanks to someone who reproduced it on this forum -- MMY said that there's value to those teaching TM outside the auspices of the Movement, hey, what am I to think...if the leader of the organisation doesn't mind, why should I? > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Kirk > > > You are missing the point!! > > > Paul Brown, for example, has NOTHING-NADA-ZERO-ZIP to do with the > > TMO. > > > He teaches the TM technique. He has been threatened up the wazoo > > by > > > the TMO and they finally have left him alone. The people he > > teachers > > > will be turned away from the TMO if they are asked who their > > teacher > > > is. So you can rest assured that anyone he teaches will, by > > default, > > > not be allowed to "belong" to the TMO. > > > Ken > > > > > > > > ...and does this fellow teach TM with the puja, the 7 steps and all > > that he was taught to do originally with teacher-training? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > I wouldn't wish TMO upon my worst enemies at this point. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: Kenny H > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 1:57 PM > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate > > Maharishi) > > > > > > > > > > > > Kirk et. al. > > > > > > > > Why don't you see if you can hook up with a TM teacher in your > > area > > > > who is willing to teach outside the guidelines and charge a > > reasonable > > > > rate. There are enough TM teachers who don't care about going on > > > > courses and who may be willing. > > > > > > > > Also, someone here probably has the link to Paul Brown's website > > and > > > > any interested people ANYWHERE can contact him and he will fly > > to them > > > > and teach them TM. If you want his e-mail address e-mail me on > > the > > > > side and I can send it to you. He regularly travels the country > > (and > > > > Canada) to teach people TM at very reasonable rates. > > > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > TM is what counts. It should be offered to those in need > > > > > of its benefits at a sensible price. > > > > > Right now, I am looking at a Samsung computer screen, > > > > > and it is very good. I would recommend it to anyone. > > > > > However, I have absolutely no view about Samsung's > > > > > head honcho. > > > > > Uns. > > > > > > > > > > -There was alot of talk about pricing the Divine Mother > > and Her > > > > sacred syllables, but how can you put a price on Her without > > making > > > > her a whore of your own will? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Or go to: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi > > mahesh > > > yogi Ramana maharshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > - > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. > > > > > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms > > of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > - Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
It's ok. I have gone to the source of TM and can freely teach it without needing any sort of connection to the Maharishi. Like I said, I would not have anyone make any sort of connection to TMO at this point, official, or unofficial. I'm not missing the point. The real point is who is ripping off who really? And what are the stakes for their missteps? - Original Message - From: Kenny H To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 2:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi) KirkYou are missing the point!! Paul Brown, for example, has NOTHING-NADA-ZERO-ZIP to do with the TMO.He teaches the TM technique. He has been threatened up the wazoo bythe TMO and they finally have left him alone. The people he teacherswill be turned away from the TMO if they are asked who their teacheris. So you can rest assured that anyone he teaches will, by default,not be allowed to "belong" to the TMO.Ken--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I wouldn't wish TMO upon my worst enemies at this point. > > > - Original Message - > From: Kenny H > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 1:57 PM> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)> > > Kirk et. al.> > Why don't you see if you can hook up with a TM teacher in your area> who is willing to teach outside the guidelines and charge a reasonable> rate. There are enough TM teachers who don't care about going on> courses and who may be willing.> > Also, someone here probably has the link to Paul Brown's website and> any interested people ANYWHERE can contact him and he will fly to them> and teach them TM. If you want his e-mail address e-mail me on the> side and I can send it to you. He regularly travels the country (and> Canada) to teach people TM at very reasonable rates.> > Ken> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > > TM is what counts. It should be offered to those in need> > of its benefits at a sensible price.> > Right now, I am looking at a Samsung computer screen,> > and it is very good. I would recommend it to anyone. > > However, I have absolutely no view about Samsung's > > head honcho.> > Uns.> > > > -There was alot of talk about pricing the Divine Mother and Her> sacred syllables, but how can you put a price on Her without making> her a whore of your own will?> > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to:> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/> and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi maheshyogi Ramana maharshi > > >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.> > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms ofService. > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
Yes he does, as taught. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Kirk > > You are missing the point!! > > Paul Brown, for example, has NOTHING-NADA-ZERO-ZIP to do with the > TMO. > > He teaches the TM technique. He has been threatened up the wazoo > by > > the TMO and they finally have left him alone. The people he > teachers > > will be turned away from the TMO if they are asked who their > teacher > > is. So you can rest assured that anyone he teaches will, by > default, > > not be allowed to "belong" to the TMO. > > Ken > > > > ...and does this fellow teach TM with the puja, the 7 steps and all > that he was taught to do originally with teacher-training? > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I wouldn't wish TMO upon my worst enemies at this point. > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: Kenny H > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 1:57 PM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate > Maharishi) > > > > > > > > > Kirk et. al. > > > > > > Why don't you see if you can hook up with a TM teacher in your > area > > > who is willing to teach outside the guidelines and charge a > reasonable > > > rate. There are enough TM teachers who don't care about going on > > > courses and who may be willing. > > > > > > Also, someone here probably has the link to Paul Brown's website > and > > > any interested people ANYWHERE can contact him and he will fly > to them > > > and teach them TM. If you want his e-mail address e-mail me on > the > > > side and I can send it to you. He regularly travels the country > (and > > > Canada) to teach people TM at very reasonable rates. > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > TM is what counts. It should be offered to those in need > > > > of its benefits at a sensible price. > > > > Right now, I am looking at a Samsung computer screen, > > > > and it is very good. I would recommend it to anyone. > > > > However, I have absolutely no view about Samsung's > > > > head honcho. > > > > Uns. > > > > > > > > -There was alot of talk about pricing the Divine Mother > and Her > > > sacred syllables, but how can you put a price on Her without > making > > > her a whore of your own will? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Or go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi > mahesh > > yogi Ramana maharshi > > > > > > > > > > > --- > - > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. > > > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms > of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > --- > - Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kirk > You are missing the point!! > Paul Brown, for example, has NOTHING-NADA-ZERO-ZIP to do with the TMO. > He teaches the TM technique. He has been threatened up the wazoo by > the TMO and they finally have left him alone. The people he teachers > will be turned away from the TMO if they are asked who their teacher > is. So you can rest assured that anyone he teaches will, by default, > not be allowed to "belong" to the TMO. > Ken ...and does this fellow teach TM with the puja, the 7 steps and all that he was taught to do originally with teacher-training? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wouldn't wish TMO upon my worst enemies at this point. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Kenny H > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 1:57 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi) > > > > > > Kirk et. al. > > > > Why don't you see if you can hook up with a TM teacher in your area > > who is willing to teach outside the guidelines and charge a reasonable > > rate. There are enough TM teachers who don't care about going on > > courses and who may be willing. > > > > Also, someone here probably has the link to Paul Brown's website and > > any interested people ANYWHERE can contact him and he will fly to them > > and teach them TM. If you want his e-mail address e-mail me on the > > side and I can send it to you. He regularly travels the country (and > > Canada) to teach people TM at very reasonable rates. > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > TM is what counts. It should be offered to those in need > > > of its benefits at a sensible price. > > > Right now, I am looking at a Samsung computer screen, > > > and it is very good. I would recommend it to anyone. > > > However, I have absolutely no view about Samsung's > > > head honcho. > > > Uns. > > > > > > -There was alot of talk about pricing the Divine Mother and Her > > sacred syllables, but how can you put a price on Her without making > > her a whore of your own will? > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh > yogi Ramana maharshi > > > > > > > --- - > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > a.. Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > --- - Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
Kirk You are missing the point!! Paul Brown, for example, has NOTHING-NADA-ZERO-ZIP to do with the TMO. He teaches the TM technique. He has been threatened up the wazoo by the TMO and they finally have left him alone. The people he teachers will be turned away from the TMO if they are asked who their teacher is. So you can rest assured that anyone he teaches will, by default, not be allowed to "belong" to the TMO. Ken --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wouldn't wish TMO upon my worst enemies at this point. > > > - Original Message - > From: Kenny H > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 1:57 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi) > > > Kirk et. al. > > Why don't you see if you can hook up with a TM teacher in your area > who is willing to teach outside the guidelines and charge a reasonable > rate. There are enough TM teachers who don't care about going on > courses and who may be willing. > > Also, someone here probably has the link to Paul Brown's website and > any interested people ANYWHERE can contact him and he will fly to them > and teach them TM. If you want his e-mail address e-mail me on the > side and I can send it to you. He regularly travels the country (and > Canada) to teach people TM at very reasonable rates. > > Ken > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > TM is what counts. It should be offered to those in need > > of its benefits at a sensible price. > > Right now, I am looking at a Samsung computer screen, > > and it is very good. I would recommend it to anyone. > > However, I have absolutely no view about Samsung's > > head honcho. > > Uns. > > > > -There was alot of talk about pricing the Divine Mother and Her > sacred syllables, but how can you put a price on Her without making > her a whore of your own will? > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
I wouldn't wish TMO upon my worst enemies at this point. - Original Message - From: Kenny H To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 1:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi) Kirk et. al.Why don't you see if you can hook up with a TM teacher in your areawho is willing to teach outside the guidelines and charge a reasonablerate. There are enough TM teachers who don't care about going oncourses and who may be willing.Also, someone here probably has the link to Paul Brown's website andany interested people ANYWHERE can contact him and he will fly to themand teach them TM. If you want his e-mail address e-mail me on theside and I can send it to you. He regularly travels the country (andCanada) to teach people TM at very reasonable rates.Ken--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > TM is what counts. It should be offered to those in need> of its benefits at a sensible price.> Right now, I am looking at a Samsung computer screen,> and it is very good. I would recommend it to anyone. > However, I have absolutely no view about Samsung's > head honcho.> Uns.> > -There was alot of talk about pricing the Divine Mother and Hersacred syllables, but how can you put a price on Her without makingher a whore of your own will? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Independent TM Teachers (Re: I Hate Maharishi)
Kirk et. al. Why don't you see if you can hook up with a TM teacher in your area who is willing to teach outside the guidelines and charge a reasonable rate. There are enough TM teachers who don't care about going on courses and who may be willing. Also, someone here probably has the link to Paul Brown's website and any interested people ANYWHERE can contact him and he will fly to them and teach them TM. If you want his e-mail address e-mail me on the side and I can send it to you. He regularly travels the country (and Canada) to teach people TM at very reasonable rates. Ken --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TM is what counts. It should be offered to those in need > of its benefits at a sensible price. > Right now, I am looking at a Samsung computer screen, > and it is very good. I would recommend it to anyone. > However, I have absolutely no view about Samsung's > head honcho. > Uns. > > -There was alot of talk about pricing the Divine Mother and Her sacred syllables, but how can you put a price on Her without making her a whore of your own will? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/