[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: snip If we had given up on the project, I wonder if the Russians would have gone ahead and built one (or many) and what the result of that would have

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-24 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rosenberg ultimately got the electric chair because he refused to confess once he was caught. ** But no one tipped off Julius and Ethel Rosenberg until it was too late. Why? Simply because the Soviets did

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who can say? Not I. But I do regret that America wound up so pussywhipped by fear and by the military-indus- trial complex for 60 years that they couldn't afford to provide the decent standard of living for

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Isn't there a *better* word for what humanity can become than invincible, ferchrissakes? The very definition of the word -- incapable of

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: snip If we had given up on the project, I wonder if the Russians would have gone

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Isn't there a *better* word for what humanity can become than invincible, ferchrissakes? The very definition of the word -- incapable of

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-24 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Who can say? Not I. But I do regret that America wound up so pussywhipped by fear and by the military-indus- trial complex for 60 years that they couldn't afford to provide the decent standard of living for its

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Isn't there a *better* word for what humanity can become than

Re: [FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-24 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 24, 2007, at 12:09 PM, authfriend wrote: Which is what happens when all needs have been fulfilled. Do you really think this is possible, Judy, given human nature and all that? JOOC, do these rosy scenarios, totally at odds, (IMO) with almost any kind of reality that any halfway

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the honest truth -- some people are offended by certain words. I use those words from time to time so that I can identify those people and avoid them. Look how well hittin' that worked. :-) I actually first

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Here's the honest truth -- some people are offended by certain words. I use those words from time to time so that I can identify those people and

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-24 Thread new . morning
Same dynamic of separation, exclusivity, specialness, cliques, condescention, boundaries and elitism. A lesson well learned in the TMO. Damned if they are not effective! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same dynamic of separation, exclusivity, specialness, cliques, condescention, boundaries and elitism. A lesson well learned in the TMO. Damned if they are not effective! Its all in your mind, kiddo!

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Same dynamic of separation, exclusivity, specialness, cliques, condescention, boundaries and elitism. A lesson well learned in the TMO. Damned

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Same dynamic of separation, exclusivity, specialness, cliques,

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-23 Thread bob_brigante
The Manhattan project spy who gave the Ruskies the bomb was Klaus Fuchs, a german rocket scientist who worked on the V2, he was a spoil of war and subsequently excused from any war crime trials. I wonder if there is anyone in recent history with more to answer for and if he was aware of

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: You've mixed Fuchs up with somebody else evidently Yea, but

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
The Manhattan project spy who gave the Ruskies the bomb was Klaus Fuchs [since corrected], a german rocket scientist who worked on the V2, he was a spoil of war and subsequently excused from any war crime trials. I wonder if there is anyone in recent history with more to answer

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-23 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know whether the info they passed on to the Soviets was crucial but the Rosenbergs' espionage activities also involved the bomb, I believe. Excellent HBO documentary on the Rosenbergs by their

Re: [FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-23 Thread gullible fool
Who can say? Not I. But I do regret that America wound up so pussywhipped by fear and by the military-indus- trial complex for 60 years that they couldn't afford to provide the decent standard of living for its people that I see in European nations that didn't have to spend that much to

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Manhattan project spy who gave the Ruskies the bomb was Klaus Fuchs [since corrected], a german rocket scientist who worked on the V2, he was a spoil of war and subsequently excused from any war crime trials. I

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-23 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Manhattan project spy who gave the Ruskies the bomb was Klaus Fuchs, a german rocket scientist who worked on the V2, he was a spoil of war and subsequently excused from any war crime trials. I wonder if

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Manhattan project spy who gave the Ruskies the bomb was Klaus Fuchs, a german rocket scientist who worked on the V2, he was a spoil of war and subsequently excused from any war crime trials. I wonder if there is

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-23 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: The Manhattan project spy who gave the Ruskies the bomb was Klaus Fuchs [since corrected], a german rocket scientist who worked on the

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-23 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: You've mixed Fuchs up with somebody else evidently Yea, but the headline would have been classic: Spy Fuchs US!

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Manhattan project spy who gave the Ruskies the bomb was Klaus Fuchs, a german rocket scientist who worked on the V2, he was a spoil of war and subsequently excused from any war crime trials. I wonder if

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-23 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: The Manhattan project spy who gave the Ruskies the bomb was Klaus

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: I don't know whether the info they passed on to the Soviets was crucial but the Rosenbergs' espionage activities also involved the

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: The Manhattan project spy who gave the Ruskies the bomb was Klaus Fuchs [since corrected], a german rocket scientist who worked on the

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who can say? Not I. But I do regret that America wound up so pussywhipped by fear and by the military-indus- trial complex for 60 years that they couldn't afford to provide the decent standard of living

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Behalf Of TurquoiseB The Manhattan Project was the first real boondoggle of a military-industrial-intelligentsia-driven project. It had all the earmarks of any of the boondoggle pro- jects since -- it cost

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility sucks (was Re: IMO from this point on the USA went downhill)

2007-11-22 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: On Behalf Of TurquoiseB The Manhattan Project was the first real boondoggle of a military-industrial-intelligentsia-driven project. It had