[FairfieldLife] Laying cornerstones and then nothing happens...
The mechanics of Invincibilitynot! http://www.exberliner.com/articles/david-wants-to-fly-an-interview- with-david-sieveking (...) The TM organisation threatened to sue you. What happened? I received legal threats from the David Lynch Foundation’s attorney. He said David Lynch was not very amused and didn’t want to be part of the film. If I integrated him, they would take legal steps. This became more severe when it became clear that it was going to premiere at the Berlinale. He even tried to stop the premiere – he is very well connected – but the Berlinale was courageous enough not to take it out of the programme. People from the movement wrote letters with legal threats to the production company. But until now, no steps have actually been taken. On a personal level, I get emails and calls from people who say I’m a traitor and tell me I will be reborn as a cockroach. What do you think of the movement’s plans to build a ‘university’ on the Teufelsberg? It’s a completely unrealistic PR campaign that is very typical of TM. I investigated this very thoroughly. There’s a huge mortgage on the area – more than €30 million that is actually owed by the owner to the bank. You wouldn’t want the area because of the debt. There is also this ruin of the monitoring station from the Cold War, which would cost around €2 million to tear down. But the biggest problem is actually that the area is officially protected forest. You don’t have a right to build a university there. It will never happen. And so far, the TM movement hasn’t paid the money. So there’s a legal battle between the owner and TM. They’re suing the organisation for not paying… But that’s pretty typical for the TM movement: there’s always the notion that the idea is most important. When it will actually be materialised doesn’t actually matter – whether it’s tomorrow or in a thousand years. They constantly lay cornerstones and perform the ceremony, but nothing happens. They’ve done this in 15 countries – 15 “invincibility universities”, but where are they? TM is not very popular in Berlin, especially after what happened at the Teufelsberg’s inaugural ceremony: Lynch’s German associate, Emmanuel Schiffgens, made a speech about an ‘invincible Germany’ that didn’t really impress anyone… If David Lynch talks about invincibility – he’s an artist. And he’s known for being quite weird – you don’t associate this with something military. When Maharishi says, “I want to make every nation invincible” – he’s a guru from India. It’s like a metaphor. But if a German guy says he wants to make this country invincible, you can’t help thinking of the Nazis. His speech was completely insensitive to German history and the audience. And then, to make things worse, when some guy shouted, “Adolf Hitler wanted the same!”, his answer was: “Yes, but unfortunately he didn’t succeed because he didn’t have the right technique.” It’s just scary that a guy who’s been in the movement for 30 years – he was trained by Maharishi personally, and is considered to be the most enlightened person in Germany – is completely crazy. (...)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Laying cornerstones and then nothing happens...
On May 24, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Vaj wrote: If David Lynch talks about invincibility – he’s an artist. And he’s known for being quite weird – you don’t associate this with something military. When Maharishi says, “I want to make every nation invincible” – he’s a guru from India. It’s like a metaphor. But if a German guy says he wants to make this country invincible, you can’t help thinking of the Nazis. His speech was completely insensitive to German history and the audience. Creative people can be very isolated. They tend to want to protect their creativity from external influence. Tell me about it, as a college trained musician with knowledge of composition and music theory I used to try to make some suggestions to other band members that might help their tunes I would get a fuck off, it's my song! I finally just slipped them a copy of Gordon Delamont's Modern Melodic Techniques to them and wait a few days or a week and then hear much improvements to their works. :-D That said, I suspect Lynch built up walls around himself for the same reason after having heard accolades from colleagues about other gurus. I suspect with Lynch his inner, subjective world is just the type of weird inner world that creates quirky, catchy, out-of-the-ordinary films which people like precisely because of that quirkiness. At the same time, his inner life is so odd, it disconnects him from others. TM was something he found that would let him connect to others and still share a part of his inner life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Laying cornerstones and then nothing happens...
On May 24, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Vaj wrote: On May 24, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Vaj wrote: If David Lynch talks about invincibility – he’s an artist. And he’s known for being quite weird – you don’t associate this with something military. When Maharishi says, “I want to make every nation invincible” – he’s a guru from India. It’s like a metaphor. But if a German guy says he wants to make this country invincible, you can’t help thinking of the Nazis. His speech was completely insensitive to German history and the audience. Creative people can be very isolated. They tend to want to protect their creativity from external influence. Tell me about it, as a college trained musician with knowledge of composition and music theory I used to try to make some suggestions to other band members that might help their tunes I would get a fuck off, it's my song! I finally just slipped them a copy of Gordon Delamont's Modern Melodic Techniques to them and wait a few days or a week and then hear much improvements to their works. :-D That said, I suspect Lynch built up walls around himself for the same reason after having heard accolades from colleagues about other gurus. I suspect with Lynch his inner, subjective world is just the type of weird inner world that creates quirky, catchy, out-of-the-ordinary films which people like precisely because of that quirkiness. At the same time, his inner life is so odd, it disconnects him from others. TM was something he found that would let him connect to others and still share a part of his inner life. A Seattle artist friend also attended the Philadelphia Art Institute and my impression is that school really brought out the individuality of the artist more so than maybe other schools. I've also heard the story from a friend of Lynch's that was attending that school with him and it was just a case of him taking in a TM lecture at the time which lots of people were doing. He stayed with it while others may have dropped it or changed paths later on. I think Dr. Pete nailed it on another list when he described Mr. Lynch as Mr. Asperger's. While not meant to disparaging, it does seem factually correct and apropos. Of course the upside is that someone, anyone, can leverage their circumstances towards something of benefit to others. Perhaps some shanti mantra is what helped him? That's still a bad excuse for being unable to discriminate between a toxic org (e.g. the TMO) and one which is generally beneficial to humans. I'm still taken aback by Eraserhead, the most karmically leaden movie in history. I literally had to stop watching it at night, and only finished it at high noon the following day. It truly embodies another realm.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Laying cornerstones and then nothing happens...
Vaj wrote: On May 24, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Vaj wrote: On May 24, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Vaj wrote: If David Lynch talks about invincibility – he’s an artist. And he’s known for being quite weird – you don’t associate this with something military. When Maharishi says, “I want to make every nation invincible” – he’s a guru from India. It’s like a metaphor. But if a German guy says he wants to make this country invincible, you can’t help thinking of the Nazis. His speech was completely insensitive to German history and the audience. Creative people can be very isolated. They tend to want to protect their creativity from external influence. Tell me about it, as a college trained musician with knowledge of composition and music theory I used to try to make some suggestions to other band members that might help their tunes I would get a fuck off, it's my song! I finally just slipped them a copy of Gordon Delamont's Modern Melodic Techniques to them and wait a few days or a week and then hear much improvements to their works. :-D That said, I suspect Lynch built up walls around himself for the same reason after having heard accolades from colleagues about other gurus. I suspect with Lynch his inner, subjective world is just the type of weird inner world that creates quirky, catchy, out-of-the-ordinary films which people like precisely because of that quirkiness. At the same time, his inner life is so odd, it disconnects him from others. TM was something he found that would let him connect to others and still share a part of his inner life. A Seattle artist friend also attended the Philadelphia Art Institute and my impression is that school really brought out the individuality of the artist more so than maybe other schools. I've also heard the story from a friend of Lynch's that was attending that school with him and it was just a case of him taking in a TM lecture at the time which lots of people were doing. He stayed with it while others may have dropped it or changed paths later on. I think Dr. Pete nailed it on another list when he described Mr. Lynch as Mr. Asperger's. While not meant to disparaging, it does seem factually correct and apropos. Of course the upside is that someone, anyone, can leverage their circumstances towards something of benefit to others. Perhaps some shanti mantra is what helped him? That's still a bad excuse for being unable to discriminate between a toxic org (e.g. the TMO) and one which is generally beneficial to humans. I'm still taken aback by Eraserhead, the most karmically leaden movie in history. I literally had to stop watching it at night, and only finished it at high noon the following day. It truly embodies another realm. I think I may have Eraserhead on Laserdisc somewhere. Generally creative folks are right brained. Left brained folks are more rule based and not very creative. Sometimes creative folks get so right brained they never finish anything so need to ground out a bit to finish something. Balance is the key. I suspect most right brained folks would appear crazy to the left brained analytical types. Left brained analytical types appear rigid and almost psychopathic to the right brained folks. My question the other day was a loaded one. Willy didn't know how to answer my retort when he asked why my hand wasn't up and I asked for the same reason yours isn't up? According to a friend to is a psych prof you may not want to be considered sane because in many academic circles sane means the norm. I don't know about you but I sure don't want to be the norm. Back in the 1970s Maslow's Self-actualized man was considered the definition of sane but that meant that the majority of the public was insane (probably true too). I sure recall news articles back then claiming the majority of the public was not sane. That's probably why they made the norm the new definition. Now I should ask how many here have had psychotic breaks or what used to be called nervous breakdowns and there is even a newer more PC term for it too which I don't recall. Those that have had them may look at those who believe they are sane as fools because unless you've had the experience you may not know what sanity really is. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com
