Dear Rick, What does Sam Harris feel about the Vedic reverberations of
Sanskrit? And the ontology of the Unified Field transcendent experience in the
physiology? Does he have any experience with this that could allow him to speak
with any authority around spiritual experience?
Rick, I just fi
Rick, I just finished the Harry Aalto batgap.com interview. That was good
criticism based on experience too. He has an amazing base voice but his
perspective by experience was piercing. Janet Sussman who lived in Fairfield
for years held weekly living living room satsangs too with folks where he
Yeah, I agree with the bit about spiritual experiences being something that a
person gets used to, no matter how flashy they may be, initially. Humans are
great at assimilating any kind of experience. I find too, that whenever I tried
to hold on to any spiritual experience, it went away. Once un
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Thanks for your comments. One of the things that amuses me in this discussion
is that two of the participants so far who are on record as having no need to
believe in a God are also on record as having had enlightenment experiences.
Whe
On 5/8/2014 10:10 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
Barry makes perfect sense here.
Well, that's a first. :-) Careful, or a few people here will pile onto
you for saying such a heretical thing. But thanks for saying it.
>
Just for the record, not everyone thinks /everything/ Barry has posted
is confus
On 5/8/2014 9:58 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:
Barry makes perfect sense here.
>
It doesn't make /*perfect*/ sense to me.
First, a belief in /reincarnation/ implies a belief in a /soul-monad/
that transmigrates at death into another human body. What is it exactly,
that reincarnates?
Secon
From: "anartax...@yahoo.com"
Spirit means breath, or wind (the latter of which Richard has plenty). I agree
with Barry here. Spiritual experience is about the nature of experience, about
that rather mysterious quality called consciousness. My spiritual experience
evolved entirely in the a
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Curtis, I may be wrong and I may be presumptuous in saying so but my sense, in
reading your recent posts, is that in the last year - maybe through the
experiences with your aging father, maybe not - that you have learned some very
useful and revela
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On 5/8/2014 8:49 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
As for God, that too may simply be a word that ancients came up with to
describe a certain kind of neurological experience. I find that a fascinating
possibility for res
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From: Share Long
As for God, that too may simply be a word that ancients came up with to
describe a certain kind of neurological experien
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On 5/8/2014 6:55 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
It also contains the word spiritual which pertains to spirit and thus for many
has to do with God.
My point, Share, is that the term "spiritual" doesn't *have* to have anything
to do with God. >
Now
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Barry makes perfect sense here.
Well, that's a first. :-) Careful, or a few people
Spirit means breath, or wind (the latter of which Richard has plenty). I agree
with Barry here. Spiritual experience is about the nature of experience, about
that rather mysterious quality called consciousness. My spiritual experience
evolved entirely in the absence of a belief in something call
I include the insights of atheism as a spiritual understanding if you equate
spiritual growth as a growth of an awareness of truth. My interest in
discovering what is real in life is no different now than it was when I was
into the Maharishi deal. Same motivation, just different content.
Some s
On 5/8/2014 8:49 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
As for God, that too may simply be a word that ancients came up with
to describe a certain kind of neurological experience. I find that a
fascinating possibility for research as the ability to measure such
becomes better.
I agree, although
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
From: Share Long
As for God, that too may simply be a word that ancients came up with to
describe a certain kind of neurological experience. I find that a fascinating
possibility for resea
On 5/8/2014 6:55 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
It also contains the word spiritual which pertains to spirit and thus
for many has to do with God.
My point, Share, is that the term "spiritual" doesn't *have* to have
anything to do with God.
>
Now this is really funny! /The word spiritual doesn't hav
On 5/8/2014 6:30 AM, Share Long wrote:
turq, the term *spiritual experience* not only contains the word
experience. It also contains the word spiritual which pertains to
spirit and thus for many has to do with God.
>
Not sure if TB can understand this subtle observation,Share - he seems
to be
On 5/8/2014 1:52 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
The discussion of spiritual experience ISN'T ABOUT GOD.
>
You are not even making any sense. The discussion of /*spiritual
experiences*/ assumes the belief in a /*spirit world or spirits*/. For
someone who ascribes to Advaita Vedanta, the /*spirit is
t
On 5/8/2014 1:52 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
It's irrelevant for millions of Buddhists, who (like me) have no need
to postulate a God.
>
Traditionally Buddhists throughout the Buddhist world consider that the
universe contains more beings in it than are normally visible to humans.
Buddhists have
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
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From: Share Long
As for God, that too may simply be a word that ancients came up with to
describe a certain kind of neurological experience. I find that a fascinating
possibility for resea
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
From: Share Long
As for God, that too may simply be a word that ancients came up with to
describe a certain kind of neurological experience. I find that a fascinating
possibility for research as the ability to measure such becomes better.
From: Share Long
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 1:30 PM
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turq, the term *spiritual experience* not only contains the word experience. It
also contains the word
esday, May 7, 2014 9:35 PM
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Thanks. How would you (and Curtis & others) describe Harris in a word or a
phrase? I see him referred to as an “atheist”, but from what
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Thanks. How would you (and Curtis & ot
Rick -
I doubt that Harris would think or talk about experiencing God. My take on
him is that he is interested in anything that can enhance our well being, and
he feels that certain forms of meditation certainly qualify. But he is highly
allergic to claims that reach beyond the evidence, an
On 5/7/2014 2:35 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote:
“In fact, "atheism" is a term that should not even exist. No one
ever needs to identify himself as a "non-astrologer" or a
"non-alchemist." We do not have words for people who doubt that
Elvis is still alive or that aliens have trav
till I bet.
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On Behalf Of steve.sundur@yahoo.comRick, I am glad the interviews are
gaining a wider audience. I
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Rick, I am glad the interviews are gaining a wider audience. I think they
deserve that.
I chuckled to myself though as I read your preparations for the in
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Rick, I am glad the
y SOB.
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Jesus Christ, Rick, are
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Hey Rick,
If you follow the threads from Lawson about Sam Harris you will gain some
insight into Harris' world. In
@...
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris
Hey Rick,
If you follow the threads from Lawson about Sam Harris you will gain some
insight into Harris' world. In most debates and inter
.
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Hey Rick,
If you follow the th
would want it to be
one that really did justice to the guy.
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Hey Rick,
If you follow the threads from Lawson about Sam Harris you will gain some
insight into Harris' world. In most debates and interviews he has to spend most
of this time sorting out the misunderstandings about his position caused by
people quoting people misrepresenting his ideas rather
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