Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
Good one Doc! From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 12:31 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories) If not Thor, perhaps Thorazine. Both bring that hammer down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: sure. maybe he'll oblige you. From: Michael Jackson To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories) I'd rather take lessons from Thor too, actually. From: Steve Sundur To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories) From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com Give me Thor saying, "Here is what to do to gain a pure heart and mind, and, well, I'M LISTENING TO THAT SHIT, yup, sucking it down like it was soma. Are you really so clueless about this? Don't you think it has everything to do with continued and conscientious, inner work?
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
sure. maybe he'll oblige you. From: Michael Jackson To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories) I'd rather take lessons from Thor too, actually. From: Steve Sundur To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories) From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com Give me Thor saying, "Here is what to do to gain a pure heart and mind, and, well, I'M LISTENING TO THAT SHIT, yup, sucking it down like it was soma. Are you really so clueless about this? Don't you think it has everything to do with continued and conscientious, inner work?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
I'd rather take lessons from Thor too, actually. From: Steve Sundur To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories) From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com Give me Thor saying, "Here is what to do to gain a pure heart and mind, and, well, I'M LISTENING TO THAT SHIT, yup, sucking it down like it was soma. Are you really so clueless about this? Don't you think it has everything to do with continued and conscientious, inner work?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com Give me Thor saying, "Here is what to do to gain a pure heart and mind, and, well, I'M LISTENING TO THAT SHIT, yup, sucking it down like it was soma. Are you really so clueless about this? Don't you think it has everything to do with continued and conscientious, inner work?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
You must have watched a different show than I did. Or you have "preconceived notions." :-D On 09/29/2013 11:23 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: that's the whole point - its not about superheroes, its about the agents of shield, secret agents - the idea the network has is number one, they can't afford to pay the likes of Mark Ruffalo, or Robert Downey and if they have the superheros, they would upstage the agents, ironic since the tv version of SHIELD exists to monitor the supers, unlike the comic book version that was originally a covert and semi-military agency until the advent of the civil war story arc in Marvel comics. *From:* Bhairitu *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, September 29, 2013 12:18 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories) On 09/29/2013 07:03 AM, Duveyoung wrote: I stopped watching it about half way through. Thing is for me: if Thor comes to Earth, it changes everything far more than the series' "lite" take on that event.let alone The Hulk et alia being exposed to the masses in one stroke, and add to it aliens from a worm hole. BAH. I wanted to resonate but it didn't happen. I needed MORE REALITY as it would be after suchlike. On a show about "super heroes?" Shirley, you jest. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
that's the whole point - its not about superheroes, its about the agents of shield, secret agents - the idea the network has is number one, they can't afford to pay the likes of Mark Ruffalo, or Robert Downey and if they have the superheros, they would upstage the agents, ironic since the tv version of SHIELD exists to monitor the supers, unlike the comic book version that was originally a covert and semi-military agency until the advent of the civil war story arc in Marvel comics. From: Bhairitu To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories) On 09/29/2013 07:03 AM, Duveyoung wrote: > I stopped watching it about half way through. Thing is for me: if Thor >comes to Earth, it changes everything far more than the series' "lite" take on >that event.let alone The Hulk et alia being exposed to the masses in one >stroke, and add to it aliens from a worm hole. > >BAH. I wanted to resonate but it didn't happen. I needed MORE REALITY as it would be after suchlike. > On a show about "super heroes?" Shirley, you jest. :-D
[FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
On 09/29/2013 07:03 AM, Duveyoung wrote: I stopped watching it about half way through. Thing is for me: if Thor comes to Earth, it changes everything far more than the series' "lite" take on that event.let alone The Hulk et alia being exposed to the masses in one stroke, and add to it aliens from a worm hole. BAH. I wanted to resonate but it didn't happen. I needed MORE REALITY as it would be after suchlike. On a show about "super heroes?" Shirley, you jest. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
I thought it was pretty boring - not nearly the equal of the mighty Firefly. I predict unless the network bigwigs give Joss the green light to put his own stamp on it, it won't last 2 seasons. From: Duveyoung To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories) I stopped watching it about half way through. Thing is for me: if Thor comes to Earth, it changes everything far more than the series' "lite" take on that event.let alone The Hulk et alia being exposed to the masses in one stroke, and add to it aliens from a worm hole. BAH. I wanted to resonate but it didn't happen. I needed MORE REALITY as it would be after suchlike. Love his other stuff though, so there's hope the series can mature and find the audience it needs to keep going -- better bad Joss than good almost by anyone else. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: OK, you knew that as a Joss Whedon fanboy I couldn't not comment on this series. I have to or they'll take away my browncoat. :-) I *am* a committed Joss fanboy, but that said I'm far more a fan of him developing his *own* ideas than those of others. Joss' ideas are The Bomb, man. Testimonies to that creative side of Joss include "Buffy" (what is not to like about a normal teenage girl who suddenly discovers that she's the Slayer, and all that stands between earth and a universe of evil monsters?) and "Firefly/Serenity" (similarly, what is not to like about outlaws in space?). It also includes "Dollhouse," which I personally believe is one of the best and most intelligent scifi TV series ever created, *far* superior to many that most people would place at the top of their lists. But then there's the fanboy side of Joss Whedon. He has been a life- long comics fan. He reads them, he collects them, he knows the classics by heart, and he even writes and draws them himself. *Of course* he loves "The Avengers," and *of course* he did the best job in history of bringing a big Marvel epic to the screen. I suspect that he'll do the same thing with "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." But it's an uphill battle to drag me -- Joss fanboy that I am -- into his comic book fetish. I liked "The Avengers," but it just didn't float my boat because as I said before I prefer Joss' original ideas to his render- ing of other people's ideas. I feel the same about "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." I will watch it, and applaud the good parts and laugh at the funny parts, but a part of me will always be longing for characters created by Joss himself. That said, I think that we have to cut this first episode of "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." a bit of a break, because it's an "origin tale." It has to try to create a storyline and introduce characters we've never met before (with one exception), and *get us interested in them*, interested enough to tune in every week, all within one hour (or less, given commercials). It's a formidable task, and judging from the positive reviews from both critics and viewers, Joss seems to have pulled it off. But the characters didn't really hook *me*. Despite Joss' tendency to reuse actors he's worked with before, I saw only one, Ron Glass. Most of the others are too young and pretty for me to identify with, but a few of them have the potential to develop into true Joss Whedon Characters. I like Fitzsimmons, for example -- the two lab nerds, one named Fitz and the other Simmons, who finish each others' sentences and work well together while exchanging witty quips. They have potential. And certainly Chloe Bennet as Skye has potential. She's supposed to be our favorite character, and she pulled that off for me. I like the way her character was introduced, and the way the actress pulled it off. The loner nerd who single-handedly tracks down a potential superhero who S.H.I.E.L.D. had never heard about (nerd genius), and then tries to recruit him, revealing her other side (homeless nerd genius): Skye: Come to my office... Mike: You have an office? Skye: Yes, I have an office...a mobile office...it's a van...I live in it...by choice... She's also great when Coulson tries to recruit *her* for S.H.I.E.L.D. She doesn't trust them, so he walks into the interrogation room with his biggest, baddest macho male agent, holds up a big-ass hypodermic and says it contains a fast-acting truth serum that cannot be blocked. Then, as she's expecting to be the one given the drug, he shoots up the uptight macho agent Brett instead of Skye, and then leaves the room, letting her ask *him* questions, which leads to a couple of funny moments like: Brett: I'll just call upon my training
