RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Who's who on FFL?
Anonymity, you know I work really hard to protect the identity of all my sources when I write here on FFL. People locally know that I publish here so I do get told a lot of things that people would like to have on FFL that they won't or can't share for themselves. And then there is Yahoo making it incredibly obtuse for people to even lurk let alone post here. Yet the private e-mails that come in subsequent to a thread on the side often are most interesting. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: I have yet to figure out who the “Dick Mays” is who posts here. It's a great anonymous handle. However, who so ever he may be I do appreciate the substantial content he often does bring to FFL. He is always on topic here and I value that. If it is his real name I sure hope his employer does not sack him for posting here. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: On Thursday, November 7, 2013 10:57:55 AM, "dhamiltony2k5@..." Buck wrote: It is way better than just anonymity, I hacked this guy's yahoo mail account a long long time ago and use it at my free will. Ha! The sap, he's never figured it out. I bet he'd be really mad at me for using his account for my purposes if he ever figured it out. However someone here actually equating his name with me, I think the FFL moderator here should ban whoever did that for violating the FFL guidelines about revealing people's identities on FFL. Outing people who wish to remain anonymous or lurk on FFL, that really is foul. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Re Ann's: "What I say on this forum is what I believe and it conveys pretty accurately who I am.": And if a prospective employer was prejudiced against your opinions you'd not get that longed-for job/pay rise/promotion. You may be financially secure enough to not care less but there are a lot of people out there who might be in more desperate straits. If I was in a "position" to have to care I would not post at all. I don't like someone holding me hostage through/by my viewpoints and have a really deep seated rebellious streak if I feel I were to be censured for being who I am. If someone were to read what I wrote who actually had the power to fire or hire me (which seems unlikely) then I would need to be conscious of such a possibility and be prepared to live with the consequences if it came to that. I acknowledge other people's desire and need for anonymity but it just ain't me. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Re "I don't believe in anonymity. If I choose to post or subject others to my opinions and generally interact with them then I am more than happy to let them know my name. If I didn't want to associate myself with what I have written then I wouldn't write it. I don't totally understand the need for anonymity other than to keep oneself "safe" from repercussions that might arise as a result of what one might believe in. But then I'm all for accountability.": If I'm understanding you, isn't the problem here that when people post comments and opinions using their real, given name it means that when they apply for a new job (say) the employer can Google the name and see everything they've said. You could learn a lot about someone from chasing up all their opinions - things it might be wiser to keep secret. Might it not be a good idea to protect yourself with an alias? You're still free to reveal to whoever you choose what aliases you've used on-line - but *you* have that choice. By using your real name you're giving hostages to fortune. All sorts of things can be dredged up but if my would-be employer were to choose not to give me a job based on my opinions herein expressed then I don't want the job. What I say on this forum is what I believe and it conveys pretty accurately who I am. I still say, if you don't want what you represent yourself to be on these public places then don't participate and if you do then be brave enough to face the consequences. (FFL is the one and only 'forum' I have ever engaged with. I have no time or inclination to spend my day roving the ether for opportunities to either vent or expose myself in great quantities. Big Brother may be watching but if he finds himself interested in me then God help us.) ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: To clarify - I don't believe in anonymity. If I choose to post or subject others to my opinions and generally interact with them then I am more than happy to let them know my name. If I didn't want to associate myself with what I have written then I wouldn't write it. I don't totally understand the need for anonymity other than to keep oneself "safe" from repercussions that might arise as a result of what one might believe in. But then I'm all for accountability. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: ---In fairfieldli
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Who's who on FFL?
I have yet to figure out who the “Dick Mays” is who posts here. It's a great anonymous handle. However, who so ever he may be I do appreciate the substantial content he often does bring to FFL. He is always on topic here and I value that. If it is his real name I sure hope his employer does not sack him for posting here. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: On Thursday, November 7, 2013 10:57:55 AM, "dhamiltony2k5@..." wrote: It is way better than just anonymity, I hacked this guy's yahoo mail account a long long time ago and use it at my free will. Ha! The sap, he's never figured it out. I bet he'd be really mad at me for using his account for my purposes if he ever figured it out. However someone here actually equating his name with me, I think the FFL moderator here should ban whoever did that for violating the FFL guidelines about revealing people's identities on FFL. Outing people who wish to remain anonymous or lurk on FFL, that really is foul. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Re Ann's: "What I say on this forum is what I believe and it conveys pretty accurately who I am.": And if a prospective employer was prejudiced against your opinions you'd not get that longed-for job/pay rise/promotion. You may be financially secure enough to not care less but there are a lot of people out there who might be in more desperate straits. If I was in a "position" to have to care I would not post at all. I don't like someone holding me hostage through/by my viewpoints and have a really deep seated rebellious streak if I feel I were to be censured for being who I am. If someone were to read what I wrote who actually had the power to fire or hire me (which seems unlikely) then I would need to be conscious of such a possibility and be prepared to live with the consequences if it came to that. I acknowledge other people's desire and need for anonymity but it just ain't me. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Re "I don't believe in anonymity. If I choose to post or subject others to my opinions and generally interact with them then I am more than happy to let them know my name. If I didn't want to associate myself with what I have written then I wouldn't write it. I don't totally understand the need for anonymity other than to keep oneself "safe" from repercussions that might arise as a result of what one might believe in. But then I'm all for accountability.": If I'm understanding you, isn't the problem here that when people post comments and opinions using their real, given name it means that when they apply for a new job (say) the employer can Google the name and see everything they've said. You could learn a lot about someone from chasing up all their opinions - things it might be wiser to keep secret. Might it not be a good idea to protect yourself with an alias? You're still free to reveal to whoever you choose what aliases you've used on-line - but *you* have that choice. By using your real name you're giving hostages to fortune. All sorts of things can be dredged up but if my would-be employer were to choose not to give me a job based on my opinions herein expressed then I don't want the job. What I say on this forum is what I believe and it conveys pretty accurately who I am. I still say, if you don't want what you represent yourself to be on these public places then don't participate and if you do then be brave enough to face the consequences. (FFL is the one and only 'forum' I have ever engaged with. I have no time or inclination to spend my day roving the ether for opportunities to either vent or expose myself in great quantities. Big Brother may be watching but if he finds himself interested in me then God help us.) ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: To clarify - I don't believe in anonymity. If I choose to post or subject others to my opinions and generally interact with them then I am more than happy to let them know my name. If I didn't want to associate myself with what I have written then I wouldn't write it. I don't totally understand the need for anonymity other than to keep oneself "safe" from repercussions that might arise as a result of what one might believe in. But then I'm all for accountability. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Can I mention something else that's been bugging me about FFL? I am Seraphita. That is Seraphita = Seraphita = Seraphita. That's the name I selected when registering with FFL. That's the name I always use. Simple OK? But we know there are a lot of people who have a sign-on name but who are also addressed by a familiar name. Correct me if I'm wrong but . . . "authfriend" = "TurquoiseB" = "Buck" = and the Lord knows who "wgm4u" and "awoelflebater" are! For the sake of new arriv
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Who's who on FFL?
That just about wrecks this thread - gone to shit in just 24 hours. There are at least four people on this forum that should be banned for using people's real name in messages. Go figure. On 11/7/2013 1:49 PM, Ann Woelfle Bater wrote: On Thursday, November 7, 2013 10:57:55 AM, "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com" wrote: It is way better than just anonymity, I hacked this guy's yahoo mail account a long long time ago and use it at my free will. Ha! The sap, he's never figured it out. I bet he'd be really mad at me for using his account for my purposes if he ever figured it out. However someone here actually equating his name with me, I think the FFL moderator here should ban whoever did that for violating the FFL guidelines about revealing people's identities on FFL. Outing people who wish to remain anonymous or lurk on FFL, that really is foul. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Re Ann's: "What I say on this forum is what I believe and it conveys pretty accurately who I am.": And if a prospective employer was prejudiced against your opinions you'd not get that longed-for job/pay rise/promotion. You may be financially secure enough to not care less but there are a lot of people out there who might be in more desperate straits. If I was in a "position" to have to care I would not post at all. I don't like someone holding me hostage through/by my viewpoints and have a really deep seated rebellious streak if I feel I were to be censured for being who I am. If someone were to read what I wrote who actually had the power to fire or hire me (which seems unlikely) then I would need to be conscious of such a possibility and be prepared to live with the consequences if it came to that. I acknowledge other people's desire and need for anonymity but it just ain't me. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Re "I don't believe in anonymity. If I choose to post or subject others to my opinions and generally interact with them then I am more than happy to let them know my name. If I didn't want to associate myself with what I have written then I wouldn't write it. I don't totally understand the need for anonymity other than to keep oneself "safe" from repercussions that might arise as a result of what one might believe in. But then I'm all for accountability.": If I'm understanding you, isn't the problem here that when people post comments and opinions using their real, given name it means that when they apply for a new job (say) the employer can Google the name and see everything they've said. You could learn a lot about someone from chasing up all their opinions - things it might be wiser to keep secret. Might it not be a good idea to protect yourself with an alias? You're still free to reveal to whoever you choose what aliases you've used on-line - but *you* have that choice. By using your real name you're giving hostages to fortune. All sorts of things can be dredged up but if my would-be employer were to choose not to give me a job based on my opinions herein expressed then I don't want the job. What I say on this forum is what I believe and it conveys pretty accurately who I am. I still say, if you don't want what you represent yourself to be on these public places then don't participate and if you do then be brave enough to face the consequences. (FFL is the one and only 'forum' I have ever engaged with. I have no time or inclination to spend my day roving the ether for opportunities to either vent or expose myself in great quantities. Big Brother may be watching but if he finds himself interested in me then God help us.) ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: To clarify - I don't believe in anonymity. If I choose to post or subject others to my opinions and generally interact with them then I am more than happy to let them know my name. If I didn't want to associate myself with what I have written then I wouldn't write it. I don't totally understand the need for anonymity other than to keep oneself "safe" from repercussions that might arise as a result of what one might believe in. But then I'm all for accountability. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Can I mention something else that's been bugging me about FFL? I am Seraphita. That is Seraphita = Seraphita = Seraphita. That's the name I selected when registering with FFL. That's the name I always use. Simple OK? But we know there are a lot of people who have a sign-on name but who are also addressed by a familiar name. Correct me if I'm wrong but . . . "authfriend" = "TurquoiseB" = "Buck" = and the Lord knows who "wgm4u" and "awoelflebater" are! For the sake of new arrivals to FFL and the occasional lurker could some kind soul list the different aliases of the posters to this site so that everyone knows who is saying what to whom. It would make life
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Who's who on FFL?
On Thursday, November 7, 2013 10:57:55 AM, "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com" wrote: It is way better than just anonymity, I hacked this guy's yahoo mail account a long long time ago and use it at my free will. Ha! The sap, he's never figured it out. I bet he'd be really mad at me for using his account for my purposes if he ever figured it out. However someone here actually equating his name with me, I think the FFL moderator here should ban whoever did that for violating the FFL guidelines about revealing people's identities on FFL. Outing people who wish to remain anonymous or lurk on FFL, that really is foul. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Re Ann's: "What I say on this forum is what I believe and it conveys pretty accurately who I am.": And if a prospective employer was prejudiced against your opinions you'd not get that longed-for job/pay rise/promotion. You may be financially secure enough to not care less but there are a lot of people out there who might be in more desperate straits. If I was in a "position" to have to care I would not post at all. I don't like someone holding me hostage through/by my viewpoints and have a really deep seated rebellious streak if I feel I were to be censured for being who I am. If someone were to read what I wrote who actually had the power to fire or hire me (which seems unlikely) then I would need to be conscious of such a possibility and be prepared to live with the consequences if it came to that. I acknowledge other people's desire and need for anonymity but it just ain't me. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Re "I don't believe in anonymity. If I choose to post or subject others to my opinions and generally interact with them then I am more than happy to let them know my name. If I didn't want to associate myself with what I have written then I wouldn't write it. I don't totally understand the need for anonymity other than to keep oneself "safe" from repercussions that might arise as a result of what one might believe in. But then I'm all for accountability.": If I'm understanding you, isn't the problem here that when people post comments and opinions using their real, given name it means that when they apply for a new job (say) the employer can Google the name and see everything they've said. You could learn a lot about someone from chasing up all their opinions - things it might be wiser to keep secret. Might it not be a good idea to protect yourself with an alias? You're still free to reveal to whoever you choose what aliases you've used on-line - but *you* have that choice. By using your real name you're giving hostages to fortune. All sorts of things can be dredged up but if my would-be employer were to choose not to give me a job based on my opinions herein expressed then I don't want the job. What I say on this forum is what I believe and it conveys pretty accurately who I am. I still say, if you don't want what you represent yourself to be on these public places then don't participate and if you do then be brave enough to face the consequences. (FFL is the one and only 'forum' I have ever engaged with. I have no time or inclination to spend my day roving the ether for opportunities to either vent or expose myself in great quantities. Big Brother may be watching but if he finds himself interested in me then God help us.) ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: To clarify - I don't believe in anonymity. If I choose to post or subject others to my opinions and generally interact with them then I am more than happy to let them know my name. If I didn't want to associate myself with what I have written then I wouldn't write it. I don't totally understand the need for anonymity other than to keep oneself "safe" from repercussions that might arise as a result of what one might believe in. But then I'm all for accountability. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Can I mention something else that's been bugging me about FFL? I am Seraphita. That is Seraphita = Seraphita = Seraphita. That's the name I selected when registering with FFL. That's the name I always use. Simple OK? But we know there are a lot of people who have a sign-on name but who are also addressed by a familiar name. Correct me if I'm wrong but . . . "authfriend" = "TurquoiseB" = "Buck" = and the Lord knows who "wgm4u" and "awoelflebater" are! For the sake of new arrivals to FFL and the occasional lurker could some kind soul list the different aliases of the posters to this site so that everyone knows who is saying what to whom. It would make life so much simpler. Simple: awoelflebater is Ann
[FairfieldLife] Re: RE: Who's who on FFL?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > If you wanted to be nasty to JOHN DOE (say) couldn't you > open a free web email account using their name; then join > an on-line forum and use "John Doe" as the handle; then > post lots of messages on the forum saying what a splendid > but misunderstood chap Hitler was, and so on . . . > > Then, when a would-be employer Googled "John Doe" to > check his worthiness for the post . . . well, you get the picture. Or you could simply do it the way some people here on FFL did to Curtis, a former member. Curtis patiently explained to the forum that his work (he is a Blues artist, but also teaches using his music in public schools) made him very sensitive to things said about him on the Internet. Every principal of every school he wants to work for Googles his name the minute he leaves their office after their interview. So what do a few wonderful people on FFL do? They not only start using his full name in posts here (thus making them Google-able), they write occasional posts *POSING AS HIM* and/or signing his name to what they wrote. Both Robin and Ravi (who Judy seems to have No Problem With) did this, and continued to do it *after* Curtis asked them not to. Ravi was thrown off the forum at one point because of it.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Who's who on FFL?
It is way better than just anonymity, I hacked this guy's yahoo mail account a long long time ago and use it at my free will. Ha! The sap, he's never figured it out. I bet he'd be really mad at me for using his account for my purposes if he ever figured it out. However someone here actually equating his name with me, I think the FFL moderator here should ban whoever did that for violating the FFL guidelines about revealing people's identities on FFL. Outing people who wish to remain anonymous or lurk on FFL, that really is foul. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Re Ann's: "What I say on this forum is what I believe and it conveys pretty accurately who I am.": And if a prospective employer was prejudiced against your opinions you'd not get that longed-for job/pay rise/promotion. You may be financially secure enough to not care less but there are a lot of people out there who might be in more desperate straits. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Re "I don't believe in anonymity. If I choose to post or subject others to my opinions and generally interact with them then I am more than happy to let them know my name. If I didn't want to associate myself with what I have written then I wouldn't write it. I don't totally understand the need for anonymity other than to keep oneself "safe" from repercussions that might arise as a result of what one might believe in. But then I'm all for accountability.": If I'm understanding you, isn't the problem here that when people post comments and opinions using their real, given name it means that when they apply for a new job (say) the employer can Google the name and see everything they've said. You could learn a lot about someone from chasing up all their opinions - things it might be wiser to keep secret. Might it not be a good idea to protect yourself with an alias? You're still free to reveal to whoever you choose what aliases you've used on-line - but *you* have that choice. By using your real name you're giving hostages to fortune. All sorts of things can be dredged up but if my would-be employer were to choose not to give me a job based on my opinions herein expressed then I don't want the job. What I say on this forum is what I believe and it conveys pretty accurately who I am. I still say, if you don't want what you represent yourself to be on these public places then don't participate and if you do then be brave enough to face the consequences. (FFL is the one and only 'forum' I have ever engaged with. I have no time or inclination to spend my day roving the ether for opportunities to either vent or expose myself in great quantities. Big Brother may be watching but if he finds himself interested in me then God help us.) ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: To clarify - I don't believe in anonymity. If I choose to post or subject others to my opinions and generally interact with them then I am more than happy to let them know my name. If I didn't want to associate myself with what I have written then I wouldn't write it. I don't totally understand the need for anonymity other than to keep oneself "safe" from repercussions that might arise as a result of what one might believe in. But then I'm all for accountability. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Can I mention something else that's been bugging me about FFL? I am Seraphita. That is Seraphita = Seraphita = Seraphita. That's the name I selected when registering with FFL. That's the name I always use. Simple OK? But we know there are a lot of people who have a sign-on name but who are also addressed by a familiar name. Correct me if I'm wrong but . . . "authfriend" = "TurquoiseB" = "Buck" = and the Lord knows who "wgm4u" and "awoelflebater" are! For the sake of new arrivals to FFL and the occasional lurker could some kind soul list the different aliases of the posters to this site so that everyone knows who is saying what to whom. It would make life so much simpler. Simple: awoelflebater is Ann
