[FairfieldLife] Re: Alfred, Lord Tennyson's mantra
I was talking about the teaching methodology in that previous post. Presumably Tennyson spontaneously arrived at his practice. Gee, for those who believe in reincarnation, perhaps this means that he was very spiritual in his last lifetime as well? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : He probably didn't want to get sued Lawson. Besides, I don't see any mention of the correct hand gestures or posture or tone of voice. Are you sure we'r talking about the same thing? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : I didn't see the words Transcendental Meditation in there any where, and how did you miss the memo about Craig Pearson's new book describing experiences of transcendence throughout the ages? For that matter, were you asleep in lectures where Maharishi explained that TM was a rediscovering of something that had been around forever? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Victorian poet Tennyson seems to have stumbled upon TM before MMY took out the copyright on the name. Take this quote of his: A kind of walking trance I have frequently had, quite up from boyhood, when I have been all alone. This has often come upon me through repeating my own name to myself silently till, all at once, as it were, out of the intensity of the consciousness of individuality, the individuality itself seemed to dissolve and fade away into boundless being; and this not a confused state, but the clearest of the clearest, the surest of the surest, the weirdest of the weirdest, utterly beyond words, where death was an almost laughable impossibility, the loss of personality (if so it were) seeming no extinction, but the only true life. I love that line: where death was an almost laughable impossibility. Here's a (clearly autobiographical) passage from Ancient Sage . . . And more, my son! for more than once when I Sat all alone, revolving in myself The word that is the symbol of myself, The mortal limit of the Self was loosed, And past into the Nameless, as a cloud Melts into heaven. I touch'd my limbs, the limbs Were strange, not mine--and yet no shade of doubt, But utter clearness, and thro' loss of Self The gain of such large life as match'd with ours Were Sun to spark--unshadowable in words, Themselves but shadows of a shadow-world. And here's another quote to show how vitally important the experience was to him: Yes, it is true there are moments when the flesh is nothing to me, when I feel and know the flesh to be the vision, God and the spiritual—the only real and true. Depend upon it, the spiritual is the real; it belongs to one more than the hand and the foot. You may tell me that my hand and my foot are only imaginary symbols of my existence. I could believe you, but you never, never can convince me that the I is not an eternal reality, and that the spiritual is not the true and real part of me. I wonder what his mantra was: The word that is the symbol of myself and Repeating my own name to myself silently. Did he repeat Alf or Alfie or what? AaalPh sounds like it would make an acceptable mantra! We need some clever chap to create a universal mantra program on the Web. You type in the syllables and the program lets you know what effect the vibrations would have on your nervous system.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alfred, Lord Tennyson's mantra
Very nice. I've come across a few obvious references to spontaneous spiritual breakthroughs myself. I like finding them because the writer is obviously moved by the experience and feels the need to include them in a book so their characters can get the benefit of a deeper look at life or sense of the wonder beyond what we think is normality. I shall look them out and post them as they are always good descriptions from poetic types that have the ability to encapsulate the moment. I'd be interested to know what they mean to people who have never had any sort of transcendent experience. Is there any sense of recognition or just interest? I can't remember ever noticing them before I got into meditating. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Victorian poet Tennyson seems to have stumbled upon TM before MMY took out the copyright on the name. Take this quote of his: A kind of walking trance I have frequently had, quite up from boyhood, when I have been all alone. This has often come upon me through repeating my own name to myself silently till, all at once, as it were, out of the intensity of the consciousness of individuality, the individuality itself seemed to dissolve and fade away into boundless being; and this not a confused state, but the clearest of the clearest, the surest of the surest, the weirdest of the weirdest, utterly beyond words, where death was an almost laughable impossibility, the loss of personality (if so it were) seeming no extinction, but the only true life. I love that line: where death was an almost laughable impossibility. Here's a (clearly autobiographical) passage from Ancient Sage . . . And more, my son! for more than once when I Sat all alone, revolving in myself The word that is the symbol of myself, The mortal limit of the Self was loosed, And past into the Nameless, as a cloud Melts into heaven. I touch'd my limbs, the limbs Were strange, not mine--and yet no shade of doubt, But utter clearness, and thro' loss of Self The gain of such large life as match'd with ours Were Sun to spark--unshadowable in words, Themselves but shadows of a shadow-world. And here's another quote to show how vitally important the experience was to him: Yes, it is true there are moments when the flesh is nothing to me, when I feel and know the flesh to be the vision, God and the spiritual—the only real and true. Depend upon it, the spiritual is the real; it belongs to one more than the hand and the foot. You may tell me that my hand and my foot are only imaginary symbols of my existence. I could believe you, but you never, never can convince me that the I is not an eternal reality, and that the spiritual is not the true and real part of me. I wonder what his mantra was: The word that is the symbol of myself and Repeating my own name to myself silently. Did he repeat Alf or Alfie or what? AaalPh sounds like it would make an acceptable mantra! We need some clever chap to create a universal mantra program on the Web. You type in the syllables and the program lets you know what effect the vibrations would have on your nervous system.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alfred, Lord Tennyson's mantra
.I felt the universe suddenly quake, and that a golden spirit sprang up from
the ground, veiled my body, and changed my body into a golden one. At the same
time my body became light. I was able to understand the whispering of the
birds, and was clearly aware of the mind of God, the creator of the universe.
At that moment I was enlightened: the source of budo is God's love – the spirit
of loving protection for all beings ... - Morihei Ueshiba
On Thu, 5/1/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alfred, Lord Tennyson's mantra
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 1, 2014, 6:09 AM
Very nice.
I've come across a few obvious references to spontaneous
spiritual breakthroughs myself. I like finding them because
the writer is obviously moved by the experience and feels
the need to include them in a book so their characters can
get the benefit of a deeper look at life or sense of the
wonder beyond what we think is normality.
I shall
look them out and post them as they are always good
descriptions from poetic types that have the ability to
encapsulate the moment. I'd be interested to know what
they mean to people who have never had any sort of
transcendent experience. Is there any sense of recognition
or just interest? I can't remember ever noticing them
before I got into meditating.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
s3raphita@... wrote :
Victorian poet Tennyson seems to have
stumbled upon TM before MMY took out the copyright on the
name. Take this quote of his:
A kind of walking trance I have frequently had,
quite up from boyhood, when I have been all alone. This has
often come upon me through repeating my own name to myself
silently till, all at once, as it were, out of the intensity
of the consciousness of individuality, the individuality
itself seemed to dissolve and fade away into boundless
being; and this not a confused state, but the clearest of
the clearest, the surest of the surest, the weirdest of the
weirdest, utterly beyond words, where death was an almost
laughable impossibility, the loss of personality (if so it
were) seeming no extinction, but the only true
life.
I love that line: where death was an almost
laughable impossibility.
Here's a (clearly autobiographical) passage
from Ancient
Sage . .
.
And
more, my son! for more than once when I
Sat all alone, revolving in
myself
The word that is the
symbol of myself,
The mortal limit
of the Self was loosed,
And past into the Nameless, as a cloud
Melts into heaven. I touch'd
my limbs, the limbs
Were strange, not mine--and yet no shade of
doubt,
But utter clearness,
and thro' loss of Self
The gain of such large life as match'd with
ours
Were Sun to
spark--unshadowable in words,
Themselves but shadows of a shadow-world.
And here's
another quote to show how vitally important the experience
was to him:
Yes, it is true there are moments when the flesh is
nothing to me, when I feel and know the flesh to be the
vision, God and the spiritual—the only real and true.
Depend upon it, the spiritual is the real; it belongs to one
more than the hand and the foot. You may tell me that my
hand and my foot are only imaginary symbols of my existence.
I could believe you, but you never, never can convince me
that the I is not an eternal reality, and that the spiritual
is not the true and real part of
me.
I wonder what his
mantra was: The word that is the symbol of
myself and Repeating my
own name to myself silently.
Did he repeat Alf or
Alfie or
what? AaalPh sounds like it
would make an acceptable mantra! We need some clever chap to
create a universal mantra program on the Web. You type in
the syllables and the program lets you know what effect the
vibrations would have on your nervous
system.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Alfred, Lord Tennyson's mantra
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Victorian poet Tennyson seems to have stumbled upon TM before MMY took out the copyright on the name. Take this quote of his: A kind of walking trance I have frequently had, quite up from boyhood, when I have been all alone. This has often come upon me through repeating my own name to myself silently till, all at once, as it were, out of the intensity of the consciousness of individuality, the individuality itself seemed to dissolve and fade away into boundless being; and this not a confused state, but the clearest of the clearest, the surest of the surest, the weirdest of the weirdest, utterly beyond words, where death was an almost laughable impossibility, the loss of personality (if so it were) seeming no extinction, but the only true life. I love that line: where death was an almost laughable impossibility. Here's a (clearly autobiographical) passage from Ancient Sage . . . And more, my son! for more than once when I Sat all alone, revolving in myself The word that is the symbol of myself, The mortal limit of the Self was loosed, And past into the Nameless, as a cloud Melts into heaven. I touch'd my limbs, the limbs Were strange, not mine--and yet no shade of doubt, But utter clearness, and thro' loss of Self The gain of such large life as match'd with ours Were Sun to spark--unshadowable in words, Themselves but shadows of a shadow-world. And here's another quote to show how vitally important the experience was to him: Yes, it is true there are moments when the flesh is nothing to me, when I feel and know the flesh to be the vision, God and the spiritual—the only real and true. Depend upon it, the spiritual is the real; it belongs to one more than the hand and the foot. You may tell me that my hand and my foot are only imaginary symbols of my existence. I could believe you, but you never, never can convince me that the I is not an eternal reality, and that the spiritual is not the true and real part of me. I wonder what his mantra was: The word that is the symbol of myself and Repeating my own name to myself silently. Did he repeat Alf or Alfie or what? AaalPh sounds like it would make an acceptable mantra! We need some clever chap to create a universal mantra program on the Web. You type in the syllables and the program lets you know what effect the vibrations would have on your nervous system. Nice post. This was fascinating. I love the idea of repeating your own name as a mantra. My first name is actually not all that different from the first mantra I was given. Maybe I'll try my name since the mantra didn't seem to do much for my meditation experiences...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alfred, Lord Tennyson's mantra
Re I'd be interested to know what they [Tennyson's quotes] mean to people who have never had any sort of transcendent experience. Is there any sense of recognition or just interest?: An early biographer mentions these quotes but clearly had no idea what Tennyson was on about. He took the statements as being *arguments* for philosophical idealism - he was unable to escape his rationalist mindset and see that the poet was talking about lived experience, as obvious as that is to you and I. Perhaps Tennyson was fated to be an army officer fighting for the Empire but the mantra Alfie he repeated from his youth was found pleasing to Saraswati and she turned his finer consciousness towards poetry . . . I don't take this last statement literally but I wouldn't rule out the idea that his regular meditation sessions did awaken a latent ability in him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Very nice. I've come across a few obvious references to spontaneous spiritual breakthroughs myself. I like finding them because the writer is obviously moved by the experience and feels the need to include them in a book so their characters can get the benefit of a deeper look at life or sense of the wonder beyond what we think is normality. I shall look them out and post them as they are always good descriptions from poetic types that have the ability to encapsulate the moment. I'd be interested to know what they mean to people who have never had any sort of transcendent experience. Is there any sense of recognition or just interest? I can't remember ever noticing them before I got into meditating. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Victorian poet Tennyson seems to have stumbled upon TM before MMY took out the copyright on the name. Take this quote of his: A kind of walking trance I have frequently had, quite up from boyhood, when I have been all alone. This has often come upon me through repeating my own name to myself silently till, all at once, as it were, out of the intensity of the consciousness of individuality, the individuality itself seemed to dissolve and fade away into boundless being; and this not a confused state, but the clearest of the clearest, the surest of the surest, the weirdest of the weirdest, utterly beyond words, where death was an almost laughable impossibility, the loss of personality (if so it were) seeming no extinction, but the only true life. I love that line: where death was an almost laughable impossibility. Here's a (clearly autobiographical) passage from Ancient Sage . . . And more, my son! for more than once when I Sat all alone, revolving in myself The word that is the symbol of myself, The mortal limit of the Self was loosed, And past into the Nameless, as a cloud Melts into heaven. I touch'd my limbs, the limbs Were strange, not mine--and yet no shade of doubt, But utter clearness, and thro' loss of Self The gain of such large life as match'd with ours Were Sun to spark--unshadowable in words, Themselves but shadows of a shadow-world. And here's another quote to show how vitally important the experience was to him: Yes, it is true there are moments when the flesh is nothing to me, when I feel and know the flesh to be the vision, God and the spiritual—the only real and true. Depend upon it, the spiritual is the real; it belongs to one more than the hand and the foot. You may tell me that my hand and my foot are only imaginary symbols of my existence. I could believe you, but you never, never can convince me that the I is not an eternal reality, and that the spiritual is not the true and real part of me. I wonder what his mantra was: The word that is the symbol of myself and Repeating my own name to myself silently. Did he repeat Alf or Alfie or what? AaalPh sounds like it would make an acceptable mantra! We need some clever chap to create a universal mantra program on the Web. You type in the syllables and the program lets you know what effect the vibrations would have on your nervous system.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alfred, Lord Tennyson's mantra
I didn't see the words Transcendental Meditation in there any where, and how did you miss the memo about Craig Pearson's new book describing experiences of transcendence throughout the ages? For that matter, were you asleep in lectures where Maharishi explained that TM was a rediscovering of something that had been around forever? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Victorian poet Tennyson seems to have stumbled upon TM before MMY took out the copyright on the name. Take this quote of his: A kind of walking trance I have frequently had, quite up from boyhood, when I have been all alone. This has often come upon me through repeating my own name to myself silently till, all at once, as it were, out of the intensity of the consciousness of individuality, the individuality itself seemed to dissolve and fade away into boundless being; and this not a confused state, but the clearest of the clearest, the surest of the surest, the weirdest of the weirdest, utterly beyond words, where death was an almost laughable impossibility, the loss of personality (if so it were) seeming no extinction, but the only true life. I love that line: where death was an almost laughable impossibility. Here's a (clearly autobiographical) passage from Ancient Sage . . . And more, my son! for more than once when I Sat all alone, revolving in myself The word that is the symbol of myself, The mortal limit of the Self was loosed, And past into the Nameless, as a cloud Melts into heaven. I touch'd my limbs, the limbs Were strange, not mine--and yet no shade of doubt, But utter clearness, and thro' loss of Self The gain of such large life as match'd with ours Were Sun to spark--unshadowable in words, Themselves but shadows of a shadow-world. And here's another quote to show how vitally important the experience was to him: Yes, it is true there are moments when the flesh is nothing to me, when I feel and know the flesh to be the vision, God and the spiritual—the only real and true. Depend upon it, the spiritual is the real; it belongs to one more than the hand and the foot. You may tell me that my hand and my foot are only imaginary symbols of my existence. I could believe you, but you never, never can convince me that the I is not an eternal reality, and that the spiritual is not the true and real part of me. I wonder what his mantra was: The word that is the symbol of myself and Repeating my own name to myself silently. Did he repeat Alf or Alfie or what? AaalPh sounds like it would make an acceptable mantra! We need some clever chap to create a universal mantra program on the Web. You type in the syllables and the program lets you know what effect the vibrations would have on your nervous system.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alfred, Lord Tennyson's mantra
He probably didn't want to get sued Lawson. Besides, I don't see any mention of the correct hand gestures or posture or tone of voice. Are you sure we'r talking about the same thing? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : I didn't see the words Transcendental Meditation in there any where, and how did you miss the memo about Craig Pearson's new book describing experiences of transcendence throughout the ages? For that matter, were you asleep in lectures where Maharishi explained that TM was a rediscovering of something that had been around forever? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Victorian poet Tennyson seems to have stumbled upon TM before MMY took out the copyright on the name. Take this quote of his: A kind of walking trance I have frequently had, quite up from boyhood, when I have been all alone. This has often come upon me through repeating my own name to myself silently till, all at once, as it were, out of the intensity of the consciousness of individuality, the individuality itself seemed to dissolve and fade away into boundless being; and this not a confused state, but the clearest of the clearest, the surest of the surest, the weirdest of the weirdest, utterly beyond words, where death was an almost laughable impossibility, the loss of personality (if so it were) seeming no extinction, but the only true life. I love that line: where death was an almost laughable impossibility. Here's a (clearly autobiographical) passage from Ancient Sage . . . And more, my son! for more than once when I Sat all alone, revolving in myself The word that is the symbol of myself, The mortal limit of the Self was loosed, And past into the Nameless, as a cloud Melts into heaven. I touch'd my limbs, the limbs Were strange, not mine--and yet no shade of doubt, But utter clearness, and thro' loss of Self The gain of such large life as match'd with ours Were Sun to spark--unshadowable in words, Themselves but shadows of a shadow-world. And here's another quote to show how vitally important the experience was to him: Yes, it is true there are moments when the flesh is nothing to me, when I feel and know the flesh to be the vision, God and the spiritual—the only real and true. Depend upon it, the spiritual is the real; it belongs to one more than the hand and the foot. You may tell me that my hand and my foot are only imaginary symbols of my existence. I could believe you, but you never, never can convince me that the I is not an eternal reality, and that the spiritual is not the true and real part of me. I wonder what his mantra was: The word that is the symbol of myself and Repeating my own name to myself silently. Did he repeat Alf or Alfie or what? AaalPh sounds like it would make an acceptable mantra! We need some clever chap to create a universal mantra program on the Web. You type in the syllables and the program lets you know what effect the vibrations would have on your nervous system.
