Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-04 Thread Rick Archer 
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The





on 10/4/06 4:29 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 10/3/06 4:18 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   <mailto:FairfieldLife%
40yahoogroups.com>
> > , Rick Archer  wrote:
> >> >
> >>> > > 
> >> > I never heard of the TMO being thrown out. I was in the group
> > (everybody at
> >> > International at the time) helping to prepare for the Nepal 
trip.
> > Maharishi
> >> > initiated thousands with an earphone system. But almost 
everyone
> > stopped
> >> > meditating after a few days.
> > 
> > Nice one Rick. Its a good example of how incredible distorted 
stories
> > become when someone is addicted to rumours and loves to twist the
> > truth.
> > 
> So what’s the truth? Bless us, please.

Well, you where there personally so I obvously believe your version. 
Not Ingegerd's distortions.

I misunderstood. I thought you were disputing my statement that most of them stopped meditating.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-04 Thread nablus108 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 10/3/06 4:18 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > , Rick Archer  wrote:
> >> >
> >>> > > 
> >> > I never heard of the TMO being thrown out. I was in the group
> > (everybody at
> >> > International at the time) helping to prepare for the Nepal 
trip.
> > Maharishi
> >> > initiated thousands with an earphone system. But almost 
everyone
> > stopped
> >> > meditating after a few days.
> > 
> > Nice one Rick. Its a good example of how incredible distorted 
stories
> > become when someone is addicted to rumours and loves to twist the
> > truth.
> > 
> So what¹s the truth? Bless us, please.

Well, you where there personally so I obvously believe your version. 
Not Ingegerd's distortions.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-03 Thread Rick Archer 
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The





on 10/3/06 4:18 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > 
> I never heard of the TMO being thrown out. I was in the group 
(everybody at
> International at the time) helping to prepare for the Nepal trip. 
Maharishi
> initiated thousands with an earphone system. But almost everyone 
stopped
> meditating after a few days.

Nice one Rick. Its a good example of how incredible distorted stories 
become when someone is addicted to rumours and loves to twist the 
truth.

So what’s the truth? Bless us, please.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-03 Thread nablus108 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool  
> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > > A successfull businessman in Norway tried the force
> > > > his employees to 
> > > > learn TM - and they rejected. The News Papers had a
> > > > lot of articles 
> > > > about this - and the result was that the business
> > > > went into 
> > > > bankruptcy - and he lost everything.
> > > 
> > Wrong again. He sold the company to his competitor for 2 mill $
> 
> Do you know who I am referring to
> The one I refer to did lost everything.
> Ingegerd

Per M. Flem I suppose. Correct me if I am wrong. He sold his company 
at a rather good price, but for less than he could have got if he 
spent more time selling. He just wanted to get out.
Call him if you like. As usual you are just spreading ill-founded 
rumours.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-03 Thread Rick Archer 
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The





on 10/3/06 10:26 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  > wrote:

> > 
> I never heard of the TMO being thrown out. I was in
> the group (everybody at
> International at the time) helping to prepare for
> the Nepal trip. Maharishi
> initiated thousands with an earphone system. But
> almost everyone stopped
> meditating after a few days.

Did anyone ever discover why so many stopped so soon?

John Gray told me they were a lot more fascinated with their little earphone than with their mantra. Thousands came just out of curiosity. 


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-03 Thread Peter 


--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> on 10/2/06 12:28 PM, Ingegerd at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > on 10/1/06 2:45 PM, shempmcgurk at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> > 
> >>> > > I would also think that unless someone asks
> -- freely -- from their
> >>> > > own side to be initiated it would be a very
> negative experience.
> >>> > > 
> >> > It was. They resented every minute of it. Some
> even cried.
> > 
> > What happened in Nepal. As I heard many years ago
> - The TMO tried to
> > initiate as many as possible in Nepal - and was
> thrown out of the
> > country - does somebody know about it?
> > 
> I never heard of the TMO being thrown out. I was in
> the group (everybody at
> International at the time) helping to prepare for
> the Nepal trip. Maharishi
> initiated thousands with an earphone system. But
> almost everyone stopped
> meditating after a few days.

Did anyone ever discover why so many stopped so soon?



> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-03 Thread Ingegerd 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool  
wrote:
> >
> > 
> > > A successfull businessman in Norway tried the force
> > > his employees to 
> > > learn TM - and they rejected. The News Papers had a
> > > lot of articles 
> > > about this - and the result was that the business
> > > went into 
> > > bankruptcy - and he lost everything.
> > 
> Wrong again. He sold the company to his competitor for 2 mill $

Do you know who I am referring to
The one I refer to did lost everything.
Ingegerd
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-03 Thread nablus108 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > A successfull businessman in Norway tried the force
> > his employees to 
> > learn TM - and they rejected. The News Papers had a
> > lot of articles 
> > about this - and the result was that the business
> > went into 
> > bankruptcy - and he lost everything.
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-03 Thread nablus108 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 10/2/06 12:28 PM, Ingegerd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > , Rick Archer  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > on 10/1/06 2:45 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote:
> >> > 
> >>> > > I would also think that unless someone asks -- freely -- 
from their
> >>> > > own side to be initiated it would be a very negative 
experience.
> >>> > > 
> >> > It was. They resented every minute of it. Some even cried.
> > 
> > What happened in Nepal. As I heard many years ago - The TMO tried 
to
> > initiate as many as possible in Nepal - and was thrown out of the
> > country - does somebody know about it?
> > 
> I never heard of the TMO being thrown out. I was in the group 
(everybody at
> International at the time) helping to prepare for the Nepal trip. 
Maharishi
> initiated thousands with an earphone system. But almost everyone 
stopped
> meditating after a few days.

Nice one Rick. Its a good example of how incredible distorted stories 
become when someone is addicted to rumours and loves to twist the 
truth.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-02 Thread Rick Archer 
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The





on 10/2/06 12:28 PM, Ingegerd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 10/1/06 2:45 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I would also think that unless someone asks -- freely -- from their
> > own side to be initiated it would be a very negative experience.
> > 
> It was. They resented every minute of it. Some even cried.

What happened in Nepal. As I heard many years ago - The TMO tried to 
initiate as many as possible in Nepal - and was thrown out of the 
country - does somebody know about it? 

I never heard of the TMO being thrown out. I was in the group (everybody at International at the time) helping to prepare for the Nepal trip. Maharishi initiated thousands with an earphone system. But almost everyone stopped meditating after a few days.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-02 Thread gullible fool 

> A successfull businessman in Norway tried the force
> his employees to 
> learn TM - and they rejected. The News Papers had a
> lot of articles 
> about this - and the result was that the business
> went into 
> bankruptcy - and he lost everything.

At least he did not move the business to an MSV
building, cause then he surely would have lost twice
as much.  

--- Ingegerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > on 10/1/06 2:45 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > 
> > > I would also think that unless someone asks --
> freely -- from their
> > > own side to be initiated it would be a very
> negative experience.
> > > 
> > It was. They resented every minute of it. Some
> even cried.
> 
> What happened in Nepal. As I heard many years ago -
> The TMO tried to 
> initiate as many as possible in Nepal - and was
> thrown out of the 
> country - does somebody know about it? One big
> project was Mosambique -
>  but I think the positive effect of the initiations
> has been approx. 
> nothing.
> A successfull businessman in Norway tried the force
> his employees to 
> learn TM - and they rejected. The News Papers had a
> lot of articles 
> about this - and the result was that the business
> went into 
> bankruptcy - and he lost everything.
> Ingegerd
> >
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-02 Thread Ingegerd 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 10/1/06 2:45 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I would also think that unless someone asks -- freely -- from their
> > own side to be initiated it would be a very negative experience.
> > 
> It was. They resented every minute of it. Some even cried.

What happened in Nepal. As I heard many years ago - The TMO tried to 
initiate as many as possible in Nepal - and was thrown out of the 
country - does somebody know about it? One big project was Mosambique -
 but I think the positive effect of the initiations has been approx. 
nothing.
A successfull businessman in Norway tried the force his employees to 
learn TM - and they rejected. The News Papers had a lot of articles 
about this - and the result was that the business went into 
bankruptcy - and he lost everything.
Ingegerd
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-01 Thread Rick Archer 
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on 10/1/06 2:45 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I would also think that unless someone asks -- freely -- from their 
own side to be initiated it would be a very negative experience.

It was. They resented every minute of it. Some even cried.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-01 Thread sparaig 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
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> > there, they freaked out. We were barricaded in our hotel for a 
> month with
> > angry mobs marching in the street below and banner headlines in the
> > newspaper every day. The university still commemorates Maharishi¹s 
> ouster:
> > http://online.ue.edu.ph/manila/religious.htm
> 
> Living Rosary 2005 
> 
> To commemorate the ouster of the Maharishi from the University now 21 
> years ago, students and faculty formed an annual living Rosary to 
> remember and give thanks to God for redeeming the university from 
> being taken over by a group of monks that promotes transcendental 
> meditation and the philosophy of perpetuating life in accordance with 
> natural law. Pamphlets were distributed through the Deans to inform 
> and explain to the students and the whole UE constituency the history 
> of those gloomy days and the significance of reminiscing it. Students 
> and members of the academic community participated in the rosary 
> which is a living testimony of our undying faith in God.
> 
> Our prayers included thanking and imploring our good Lord to continue 
> its blessings and guidance especially to the university authorities 
> in fulfilling the goals of our beloved university.
>

And someone thinks this is different than MUM because...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-01 Thread sparaig 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> on 10/1/06 2:21 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
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> > , Rick Archer  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > on 10/1/06 1:44 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote:
> >> > 
> >>> > > Seriously, how did you feel at the time to be asked to "hail" a
> >>> > > dictator of quite some ill repute?
> >>> > > 
> >> > At the time I was a bug-eyed cult zombie, so although it seemed rather
> >> > otherworldly, I was used to suspending judgment and just going along with
> >> > things. And the snacks were good.
> >>> > > 
> >>> > >  How do you feel about it now?
> >>> > > 
> >> > That I was a bug-eyed cult zombie praising a brutal dictator along with
> >> > hundreds of other bug-eyed cult zombies, in the hopes that he would force
> >> > his people to join my cult. (exaggerating a bit but that¹s what it boils
> >> > down to)
> > 
> > Or, was sucking up to a dictator in the hopes that some good would come of
> > it...
> > 
> Right. In keeping with the fundamental TMO principle that the end justifies
> the means.
>

The ends is the means. In this case, trying to get an evil, US government 
supported 
dictator to do something good for his country.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-01 Thread authfriend 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> there, they freaked out. We were barricaded in our hotel for a 
month with
> angry mobs marching in the street below and banner headlines in the
> newspaper every day. The university still commemorates Maharishi¹s 
ouster:
> http://online.ue.edu.ph/manila/religious.htm

Living Rosary 2005 

To commemorate the ouster of the Maharishi from the University now 21 
years ago, students and faculty formed an annual living Rosary to 
remember and give thanks to God for redeeming the university from 
being taken over by a group of monks that promotes transcendental 
meditation and the philosophy of perpetuating life in accordance with 
natural law. Pamphlets were distributed through the Deans to inform 
and explain to the students and the whole UE constituency the history 
of those gloomy days and the significance of reminiscing it. Students 
and members of the academic community participated in the rosary 
which is a living testimony of our undying faith in God.

Our prayers included thanking and imploring our good Lord to continue 
its blessings and guidance especially to the university authorities 
in fulfilling the goals of our beloved university. 








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-01 Thread authfriend 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 10/1/06 1:42 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > , "sparaig"  wrote:
> >>> >> 
> >> > Same deal: if you can get a dictator to degree that TM is For
> > Everyone, you can teach
> >> > everyone with government sponsorship.
> >> >
> > 
> > Spare Egg: didn't you recently, in response to someone's posting,
> > ask the question: what about karma?
> > 
> > Do you honestly think there is good karma attached to FORCING
> > someone to meditate?
> > 
> Did you ever try to teach people who really didn¹t want to
> learn? I did some of that in the Philippines. It was horrible
> and a waste of time.

Or, you could simply make TM available for free and
promote the hell out of it, maybe give tax breaks or
other perks to those who learn it.  Maybe even *pay*
them to learn.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-01 Thread shempmcgurk 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 10/1/06 1:42 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > , "sparaig"  wrote:
> >>> >> 
> >> > Same deal: if you can get a dictator to degree that TM is For
> > Everyone, you can teach
> >> > everyone with government sponsorship.
> >> >
> > 
> > Spare Egg: didn't you recently, in response to someone's posting,
> > ask the question: what about karma?
> > 
> > Do you honestly think there is good karma attached to FORCING
> > someone to meditate?
> > 
> Did you ever try to teach people who really didn¹t want to learn? 
I did some
> of that in the Philippines. It was horrible and a waste of time.
>

I would also think that unless someone asks -- freely -- from their 
own side to be initiated it would be a very negative experience.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-01 Thread Rick Archer 
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on 10/1/06 2:21 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 10/1/06 1:44 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Seriously, how did you feel at the time to be asked to "hail" a
> > dictator of quite some ill repute?
> > 
> At the time I was a bug-eyed cult zombie, so although it seemed rather
> otherworldly, I was used to suspending judgment and just going along with
> things. And the snacks were good.
> > 
> >  How do you feel about it now?
> > 
> That I was a bug-eyed cult zombie praising a brutal dictator along with
> hundreds of other bug-eyed cult zombies, in the hopes that he would force
> his people to join my cult. (exaggerating a bit but that’s what it boils
> down to)

Or, was sucking up to a dictator in the hopes that some good would come of it...

Right. In keeping with the fundamental TMO principle that the end justifies the means.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

2006-10-01 Thread Rick Archer 
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on 10/1/06 2:04 PM, Jeffrey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yowzer! What a bizzaro scenario! So how did it all turn out? 

The movement ended up buying or trying to buy a big university in Manila called “The University of the East” - http://online.ue.edu.ph/manila/

The students weren’t told this was happening, but we stayed up late the night before it was to be announced, with Maharishi planning a festive welcome for them involving banners, colored lights, etc. When they got there, they freaked out. We were barricaded in our hotel for a month with angry mobs marching in the street below and banner headlines in the newspaper every day. The university still commemorates Maharishi’s ouster: 
http://online.ue.edu.ph/manila/religious.htm

Were 
there alot of initiations? 

A fair number but not huge. Ads were placed for a TTC. I never read the ads but apparently they weren’t too clear, as many showed up who didn’t know what they were getting into. They thought it was some sort of technical training that would lead to a good job. Most were initiated into TM when they arrived a the TTC. Many left, but many who stayed ended up becoming teachers. A few are still active. I made some good friends there.

How long did you stay in the Philipinnes?

9 months.

(The only thing that could remind me of is Nazi Germany, is that what 
you meant?)

Yes.

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2006-10-01 Thread sparaig 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 10/1/06 1:42 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > 
> > , "sparaig"  wrote:
> >>> >> 
> >> > Same deal: if you can get a dictator to degree that TM is For
> > Everyone, you can teach
> >> > everyone with government sponsorship.
> >> >
> > 
> > Spare Egg: didn't you recently, in response to someone's posting,
> > ask the question: what about karma?
> > 
> > Do you honestly think there is good karma attached to FORCING
> > someone to meditate?
> > 
> Did you ever try to teach people who really didn¹t want to learn? I did some
> of that in the Philippines. It was horrible and a waste of time.
>

Obviously. Seems as though MMY learned from that if he didn't know already. By 
the time 
Forokh Anklesaria taught in Senegal, they worked REAL hard to make sure all the 
inmates 
were interested in learning.






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on 10/1/06 1:58 PM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We did talk to Marcos. And Maharishi was also there. But when he was 
uncommitted to support our activities in the country, Maharishi 
commented: "Now he will have to carry his own cross". Just a few 
months later he was dead. But the "revolution" was bloodless, he 
simply just left the country. Same thing with the Shah of Persia.

I was there too. Left the country three days before the Shah did. It was fun standing on the roof of our hotel watching the banks, movie theatres, and liquor stores burn.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The

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on 10/1/06 1:42 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
> Same deal: if you can get a dictator to degree that TM is For 
Everyone, you can teach 
> everyone with government sponsorship.
>

Spare Egg: didn't you recently, in response to someone's posting, 
ask the question: what about karma?

Do you honestly think there is good karma attached to FORCING 
someone to meditate?

Did you ever try to teach people who really didn’t want to learn? I did some of that in the Philippines. It was horrible and a waste of time.


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