[FairfieldLife] Re: Art from the beginning of History
Sal "I suspect on this time scale the people would have just moved away from the rising seas and in a single generation would not have noticed them moving at all. We may have lost some nice cave paintings but I doubt there is an Atlantis awaiting discovery." Mass migration, even today is not a walk in the park. 25% or possible more of Bangladesh may be lost by 2100. Will neighboring countries welcome all the refugees with open arms? Countless refugee camps now and in past years demonstrate the difficulty of relocation. And with temperature, climate patterns and sea level changes, massive changes presumably occurred to flora and fauna significantly disrupting the economic foundations and social fabric of migrating societies. And cultures advance in many directions. An advanced culture might look little like the high tech image portrayed by Atlantas fans. We have lost massive amounts of knowledge of past cultures and civilizations (Greek, Egyptian for example) that at least remain intact geographically.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Art from the beginning of History
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Nice article. 20,000 years ago at the peak of the last ice age, sea levels were 120 meters lower than today. "Sea level was 400 feet lower then because huge ice caps two miles deep covered most of Europe and North America. But as the ice caps began to melt all the water stored in them returned to the oceans and sea-level rose, submerging many parts of the world where humans had previously lived. Thus Britain was joined to Europe during the Ice Age (there was no English Channel or North Sea). Likewise there was no Red Sea, no Persian Gulf, Sri Lanka was joined to southern India, Siberia was joined to Alaska, Australia was joined to New Guinea - and so on and so forth. It was during this epoch of sea-level rise, sometimes slow and continuous, sometimes rapid and cataclysmic, that the Ice Age continent of Sundaland was submerged with only the Malaysian Peninsula and the Indonesian islands as we know them today high enough to remain above water." The following map of 20,000 years ago shows Indonesia as part of the Asian mainland and almost Asia -- as well as significant continental land connections. And this provides insight as to why virtually all cultures have a Great Flood mythology / traditions. Coasts and rivers are often the hubs of civilizations and progress. How many civilizations and cultures for which we have no clue may have perished without a sign during the numerous dramatic rises and falls of oceans in the past 100,000-200,000 years since homo sapiens emerged? I can't see why people living near the coast would have a more advanced culture than any of those living inland, not without the inlanders copying and trading with coastal folk. But there are no signs of advanced culture inland so it's reasonable to suppose that the disparate groups of humans really did evolve as they appear to have done and not with major civilisations that we don't know about. I suspect on this time scale the people would have just moved away from the rising seas and in a single generation would not have noticed them moving at all. We may have lost some nice cave paintings but I doubt there is an Atlantis awaiting discovery. Earth Elevation Data Now Available http://blog.planetos.com/noaa-etopo1-global-relief-earth-elevation/ http://blog.planetos.com/noaa-etopo1-global-relief-earth-elevation/ Earth Elevation Data Now Available http://blog.planetos.com/noaa-etopo1-global-relief-earth-elevation/ Marinexplore now provides elevation data at 1 arc-minute global relief model of Earth s surface from ETOPO1, integrating land topography and ocean bathymetry from ... View on blog.planetos.com http://blog.planetos.com/noaa-etopo1-global-relief-earth-elevation/ Preview by Yahoo "Sundaland (also called the Sundaic region) is a biogeographical http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biogeographyregion of Southeastern Asia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia which encompasses the Sunda shelf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunda_shelf, the part of the Asian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia continental shelf that was exposed during the last ice age. The last glacial period, popularly known as the Ice Age, was the most recent glacial period within the current ice age occurring during the last years of the Pleistocene, from approximately 110,000 to 12,000 years ago. It included the Malay Peninsula http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malay_Peninsula on the Asian mainland, as well as the large islands ofBorneo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borneo, Java http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(island), and Sumatra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumatra and their surrounding islands. The eastern boundary of Sundaland is the Wallace Line http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Line, identified byAlfred Russel Wallace http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Russel_Wallace as the eastern boundary of the range of Asia's land mammal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammal fauna, and thus the boundary of theIndomalaya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indomalaya and Australasia ecozones http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australasia_ecozone. The islands east of the Wallace line are known as Wallacea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallacea, and are considered part of Australasia." Sundaland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland Sundaland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland Sundaland (also called the Sundaic region) is a biogeographical region of Southeastern Asia which encompasses the Sunda shelf, the part of the Asian co... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland Preview by Yahoo Some dating for the Gunung Padang Megalithic Site in the Sundaland region place it at 16,000 years old. "Java http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Java Prov
[FairfieldLife] Re: Art from the beginning of History
Nice article. 20,000 years ago at the peak of the last ice age, sea levels were 120 meters lower than today. "Sea level was 400 feet lower then because huge ice caps two miles deep covered most of Europe and North America. But as the ice caps began to melt all the water stored in them returned to the oceans and sea-level rose, submerging many parts of the world where humans had previously lived. Thus Britain was joined to Europe during the Ice Age (there was no English Channel or North Sea). Likewise there was no Red Sea, no Persian Gulf, Sri Lanka was joined to southern India, Siberia was joined to Alaska, Australia was joined to New Guinea - and so on and so forth. It was during this epoch of sea-level rise, sometimes slow and continuous, sometimes rapid and cataclysmic, that the Ice Age continent of Sundaland was submerged with only the Malaysian Peninsula and the Indonesian islands as we know them today high enough to remain above water." The following map of 20,000 years ago shows Indonesia as part of the Asian mainland and almost Asia -- as well as significant continental land connections. And this provides insight as to why virtually all cultures have a Great Flood mythology / traditions. Coasts and rivers are often the hubs of civilizations and progress. How many civilizations and cultures for which we have no clue may have perished without a sign during the numerous dramatic rises and falls of oceans in the past 100,000-200,000 years since homo sapiens emerged? Earth Elevation Data Now Available http://blog.planetos.com/noaa-etopo1-global-relief-earth-elevation/ http://blog.planetos.com/noaa-etopo1-global-relief-earth-elevation/ Earth Elevation Data Now Available http://blog.planetos.com/noaa-etopo1-global-relief-earth-elevation/ Marinexplore now provides elevation data at 1 arc-minute global relief model of Earth s surface from ETOPO1, integrating land topography and ocean bathymetry from ... View on blog.planetos.com http://blog.planetos.com/noaa-etopo1-global-relief-earth-elevation/ Preview by Yahoo "Sundaland (also called the Sundaic region) is a biogeographical http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biogeographyregion of Southeastern Asia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia which encompasses the Sunda shelf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunda_shelf, the part of the Asian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia continental shelf that was exposed during the last ice age. The last glacial period, popularly known as the Ice Age, was the most recent glacial period within the current ice age occurring during the last years of the Pleistocene, from approximately 110,000 to 12,000 years ago. It included the Malay Peninsula http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malay_Peninsula on the Asian mainland, as well as the large islands ofBorneo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borneo, Java http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(island), and Sumatra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumatra and their surrounding islands. The eastern boundary of Sundaland is the Wallace Line http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Line, identified byAlfred Russel Wallace http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Russel_Wallace as the eastern boundary of the range of Asia's land mammal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammal fauna, and thus the boundary of theIndomalaya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indomalaya and Australasia ecozones http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australasia_ecozone. The islands east of the Wallace line are known as Wallacea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallacea, and are considered part of Australasia." Sundaland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland Sundaland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland Sundaland (also called the Sundaic region) is a biogeographical region of Southeastern Asia which encompasses the Sunda shelf, the part of the Asian co... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland Preview by Yahoo Some dating for the Gunung Padang Megalithic Site in the Sundaland region place it at 16,000 years old. "Java http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Java Province of Indonesia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia, 50 km southwest of the city of Cianjur or 6 kilometers from Lampegan station. It is the largest megalithic site in all of Southeastern Asia. The survey believes that Gunung Padang is built in 4 different eras.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunung_Padang_Megalithic_Site#cite_note-1 Located at 885 metres above sea level, the site covers a hill in a series of terraces bordered by retaining walls of stone that are accessed by about 400 successive andesite http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andesite steps rising about 95 metres. It is covered with massive rectangular stones of volcanic origin. The Sundanese people http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun
[FairfieldLife] Re: Art from the beginning of History
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Painted caves challenge art origins http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 Painted caves challenge art origins http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 The discovery of 40,000-year-old artworks in Indonesian caves challenges established views on the origins of humans' artistic capabilities. View on www.bbc.co.uk http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 Preview by Yahoo Very cool. And also, every hand outlined was a left hand indicating the artist was right handed or, if there were more than one hand depicted, many of the artists were right handed. Some things don't change. Well spotted, I wonder when that arose in humanity, and why? Ice age art is my favourite thing, I went to a show at the British Museum called "The arrival of the modern mind" because all the works there showed that our distant ancestors had the same capacity for mental abstraction, metaphor and representation. It's like the complexity of modern art appeared fully formed one day and we just set about painting. I posted this the other day, it really is well worth a look if you like this sort of thing: Cave_of_forgotten_dreams http://vimeo.com/32371643 http://vimeo.com/32371643 Cave_of_forgotten_dreams http://vimeo.com/32371643 Prepare to be shocked. 30,000 years old art. View on vimeo.com http://vimeo.com/32371643 Preview by Yahoo There are odd things here though, the fact the cave was in use for 20,000 years makes me wonder why there are so few pictures on the walls, in one place you see a row of galloping horses and some of them were painted many thousands of years apart. That's like the people who built Stonehenge putting the stones up and leaving it for all that time and then me going along and finishing it yesterday. Why did they go in so infrequently? They obviously didn't live in the cave, did so many generations really pass before another painting was done? So many questions, and we can only guess at the answers.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Art from the beginning of History
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Painted caves challenge art origins http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 Painted caves challenge art origins http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 The discovery of 40,000-year-old artworks in Indonesian caves challenges established views on the origins of humans' artistic capabilities. View on www.bbc.co.uk http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 Preview by Yahoo Very cool. And also, every hand outlined was a left hand indicating the artist was right handed or, if there were more than one hand depicted, many of the artists were right handed. Some things don't change.
