[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's report on flooding in Iowa (and other stuff)

2008-06-25 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 The Vedic Mantras are the names of the Devatas which govern the 
 physiology of every individual and which administer the whole 
 universe. Reciting the names creates reverberations in the Devata 
 value in the human physiology, and which in turn creates a 
 reverberation in the cosmic value of Devata. A relationship is 
 created between the Devatas in the physiology and the Devatas in 
the 
 cosmos. We create a relationship of our consciousness, mind and 
 physiology with the cosmic consciousness, mind and physiology 
through 
 these words of the Veda. We can command the structure of the 
universe 
 from within our own structure. Through the Maharishi Yagya 
 performance different values of Devata are enlivened in our 
 physiology and in the corresponding value of the cosmic 
 physiology...The Maharishi Yagya performances are set procedures. 
 They have not been invented by any human being, but have existed as 
 part of Natural Law at all times. When the yagya is performed, the 
 pandits may for example begin by chanting a particular Mantra from 
 Rigveda to enliven a specific aspect of a Devata. They may then 
 continue with reciting another Mantra from Samaveda to enliven 
 another aspect of a Devata. In continuing this process of 
enlivening 
 various aspects of the Devatas in a set procedure they create a new 
 entity, a new Devata. This new aspect of Natural Law, created by 
the 
 Yagya, has all the power which is needed to fulfill the initial 
 Sankalpa, the purpose of the yagya. (from the Jan 2002 newletter 
of 
 the Maharishi Yagya program, Hillsboro, NH 03244)


Amzing. Who'dve thought they were that powerful, actually
creating new Devatas to do their bidding. Actually existing
*before* the people who patiently do them all day in India
and elsewhere, all day and every day churning out profound
changes to events on earth. With such consistently applied
technology from the deepest levels of nature like that at
their disposal is it unreasonable to expect them to actually
work?



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's report on flooding in Iowa (and other stuff)

2008-06-25 Thread Bhairitu
bob_brigante wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
 I can't see how a bunch of guys chanting Sanskrit is going to have 
 
 much 
   
 of any effect other than getting those guys high and maybe a little 
 better atmosphere very close to where they live.   Unless one 
 
 believes 
   
 the deities micromanage there is going to be little effect.  
 


 *

 The Vedic Mantras are the names of the Devatas which govern the 
 physiology of every individual and which administer the whole 
 universe. Reciting the names creates reverberations in the Devata 
 value in the human physiology, and which in turn creates a 
 reverberation in the cosmic value of Devata. A relationship is 
 created between the Devatas in the physiology and the Devatas in the 
 cosmos. We create a relationship of our consciousness, mind and 
 physiology with the cosmic consciousness, mind and physiology through 
 these words of the Veda. We can command the structure of the universe 
 from within our own structure. Through the Maharishi Yagya 
 performance different values of Devata are enlivened in our 
 physiology and in the corresponding value of the cosmic 
 physiology...The Maharishi Yagya performances are set procedures. 
 They have not been invented by any human being, but have existed as 
 part of Natural Law at all times. When the yagya is performed, the 
 pandits may for example begin by chanting a particular Mantra from 
 Rigveda to enliven a specific aspect of a Devata. They may then 
 continue with reciting another Mantra from Samaveda to enliven 
 another aspect of a Devata. In continuing this process of enlivening 
 various aspects of the Devatas in a set procedure they create a new 
 entity, a new Devata. This new aspect of Natural Law, created by the 
 Yagya, has all the power which is needed to fulfill the initial 
 Sankalpa, the purpose of the yagya. (from the Jan 2002 newletter of 
 the Maharishi Yagya program, Hillsboro, NH 03244)
   
That's a belief system and only a theory as is mine.   We'll all believe 
it when we can change the weather ourselves.  :D



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's report on flooding in Iowa (and other stuff)

2008-06-25 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H kenhassman@ 
wrote:
  
   This from a friend on Mother Divine:
  
  
   Bevan has pointed out that one thing that we won't see in 
Heaven on 
   Earth is chemical ag. He threw up his arms and said he couldn't 
   pretend to know the mechanics of nature's functioning here. 
  
  A ray of hope, perhaps one day he will admit to not
  knowing the mechanics of natures functioning at all
  and the TMO can stop pretending something ineffable
  has occured when it rains a bit harder than usual.
  
  Funny that the chief sponsor of all this coherence
  has his own petrochemical company. How AofE is that?
  Are they planning to phase it out in favour of solar
  power anytime soon?
 
 To be fair, I think settle's money comes primarily from natural gas,
 which burns cleaner than other fossil fuels.  The mov't's other big
 donors right now, harris kaplan and steve rubin, are also energy 
guys.

Really? His company is Raam oil, bit of a giveaway I thought.
It's still a major contributor to climate change and must be
a bit of Karma attached to it, or a bit of hypocrisy as they
are always banging on about natural living.
 
 It is interesting - US banks are getting their much needed fix of 
new
 cash/equity from various sheiks and mideast sovereign wealth funds;
 the top real estate in london is getting bought up by russian oil
 mafiosos; everyone in the world who needs money is looking to the
 newly created immense fossil fuel wealth to get it, and even the TMO
 is now relying on it to fund their main project.

Yep, we've built the world economy on something that is running
out quicker than they want you to know.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's report on flooding in Iowa (and other stuff)

2008-06-24 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This from a friend on Mother Divine:


 Bevan has pointed out that one thing that we won't see in Heaven on 
 Earth is chemical ag. He threw up his arms and said he couldn't 
 pretend to know the mechanics of nature's functioning here. 

A ray of hope, perhaps one day he will admit to not
knowing the mechanics of natures functioning at all
and the TMO can stop pretending something ineffable
has occured when it rains a bit harder than usual.

Funny that the chief sponsor of all this coherence
has his own petrochemical company. How AofE is that?
Are they planning to phase it out in favour of solar
power anytime soon?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's report on flooding in Iowa (and other stuff)

2008-06-24 Thread danfriedman2002
The flooding in Iowa is the result of past actions of bad people. And 
you know who you are.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 This from a friend on Mother Divine:
 
 Are you wondering how all this flooding could be going on with so 
 many Pandits? We are surprised at Natural Law. Definitely in the 
 phase transition here. Hopefully lots of light very soon. But one 
 thing the press has reported that as waters receeded in Cedar 
Rapids 
 it left behind a toxic brew of farm pesticide, chemicals and toxic 
 wastes.  
 
 Bevan has pointed out that one thing that we won't see in Heaven on 
 Earth is chemical ag. He threw up his arms and said he couldn't 
 pretend to know the mechanics of nature's functioning here. (Bevan 
 currently here.)
 
 By the way, I typed up some notes from the Global Family Chat on 
the 
 21st. Bevan spoke about upcoming Fourth of July celebration.
 
 Here ya go:
 
 On the June 21 Global Family Chat Bevan said he had been to Rudra 
 Abhishek yagya in a special temple here in a deep, cave-like 
 place, and how powerful it was. He said all the Pandits have 
digital 
 cameras and video cameras now and all wanted pictures taken after 
the 
 yagya – which her really enjoyed.
 
 He said July 4th is a big celebration for the Pandits. He thought 
it 
 was because it is the Fourth of July for America.
 
 But it turns out it is a special Vedic celebration that falls on 
that 
 day.
 
 He said Maharishi told the Pandits they are not coming to America, 
 they are coming to Vedic America and they should celebrate every 
 Vedic Festival here.
 
 On Lord Jagannath's day, who Bevan said is a reality of Vishnu, the 
 tradition is to build a chariot and pull it in Orissa. 
 
 This year it falls on July 4.  The Pandits made a cardboard `'mock-
 up of a chariot and it has now been made. They are going to pull 
it 
 with ropes through the roads and fields of Iowa. He didn't 
elaborate 
 where they would go, but this should be interesting. I believe we 
did 
 see part of the chariot off to the side of the road,  and it's 
really 
 neat.
 
 Bevan also mentioned there are two new big buildings going up on 
the 
 Pandit campus. Mother Divine has noticed this so it was nice of 
Bevan 
 to clarify.
 
 One is a dining hall. Other he thinks is for yagyas.  Someone told 
me 
 it was announced today (June 23) it is a new rec center (that the 
one 
 they have isn't big enough for all the Pandits),
 
 He also said he talked to Bill Goldstein who has made several trips 
 to India to help the Pandits get their visas, and Bill said they 
have 
 found another 100 Pandits with passports. So these 100 have moved 
 from where ever they are to Delhi to get their visas.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's report on flooding in Iowa (and other stuff)

2008-06-24 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H kenhassman@ wrote:
 
  This from a friend on Mother Divine:
 
 
  Bevan has pointed out that one thing that we won't see in Heaven on 
  Earth is chemical ag. He threw up his arms and said he couldn't 
  pretend to know the mechanics of nature's functioning here. 
 
 A ray of hope, perhaps one day he will admit to not
 knowing the mechanics of natures functioning at all
 and the TMO can stop pretending something ineffable
 has occured when it rains a bit harder than usual.
 
 Funny that the chief sponsor of all this coherence
 has his own petrochemical company. How AofE is that?
 Are they planning to phase it out in favour of solar
 power anytime soon?

To be fair, I think settle's money comes primarily from natural gas,
which burns cleaner than other fossil fuels.  The mov't's other big
donors right now, harris kaplan and steve rubin, are also energy guys.

It is interesting - US banks are getting their much needed fix of new
cash/equity from various sheiks and mideast sovereign wealth funds;
the top real estate in london is getting bought up by russian oil
mafiosos; everyone in the world who needs money is looking to the
newly created immense fossil fuel wealth to get it, and even the TMO
is now relying on it to fund their main project. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's report on flooding in Iowa (and other stuff)

2008-06-24 Thread lurkernomore20002000
God in his infinite wisom!!  Yes, this can explain anyting!!  Who 
are we to question the almightly in the plan he has for the 
universe. He's got the whole world in his hands


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 This from a friend on Mother Divine:
 
 Are you wondering how all this flooding could be going on with so 
 many Pandits? We are surprised at Natural Law. Definitely in the 
 phase transition here. Hopefully lots of light very soon. But one 
 thing the press has reported that as waters receeded in Cedar 
Rapids 
 it left behind a toxic brew of farm pesticide, chemicals and toxic 
 wastes.  
 
 Bevan has pointed out that one thing that we won't see in Heaven 
on 
 Earth is chemical ag. He threw up his arms and said he couldn't 
 pretend to know the mechanics of nature's functioning here. (Bevan 
 currently here.)
 
 By the way, I typed up some notes from the Global Family Chat on 
the 
 21st. Bevan spoke about upcoming Fourth of July celebration.
 
 Here ya go:
 
 On the June 21 Global Family Chat Bevan said he had been to Rudra 
 Abhishek yagya in a special temple here in a deep, cave-like 
 place, and how powerful it was. He said all the Pandits have 
digital 
 cameras and video cameras now and all wanted pictures taken after 
the 
 yagya – which her really enjoyed.
 
 He said July 4th is a big celebration for the Pandits. He thought 
it 
 was because it is the Fourth of July for America.
 
 But it turns out it is a special Vedic celebration that falls on 
that 
 day.
 
 He said Maharishi told the Pandits they are not coming to America, 
 they are coming to Vedic America and they should celebrate every 
 Vedic Festival here.
 
 On Lord Jagannath's day, who Bevan said is a reality of Vishnu, 
the 
 tradition is to build a chariot and pull it in Orissa. 
 
 This year it falls on July 4.  The Pandits made a cardboard `'mock-
 up of a chariot and it has now been made. They are going to pull 
it 
 with ropes through the roads and fields of Iowa. He didn't 
elaborate 
 where they would go, but this should be interesting. I believe we 
did 
 see part of the chariot off to the side of the road,  and it's 
really 
 neat.
 
 Bevan also mentioned there are two new big buildings going up on 
the 
 Pandit campus. Mother Divine has noticed this so it was nice of 
Bevan 
 to clarify.
 
 One is a dining hall. Other he thinks is for yagyas.  Someone told 
me 
 it was announced today (June 23) it is a new rec center (that the 
one 
 they have isn't big enough for all the Pandits),
 
 He also said he talked to Bill Goldstein who has made several 
trips 
 to India to help the Pandits get their visas, and Bill said they 
have 
 found another 100 Pandits with passports. So these 100 have moved 
 from where ever they are to Delhi to get their visas.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's report on flooding in Iowa (and other stuff)

2008-06-24 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Bhairitu
  Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 2:05 PM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Bevan's report on
  flooding in Iowa (and other
  stuff)
  
   
  
  I wonder 
  what Bevan would say if the Sun suddenly belched a
  solar flare and the 
  earth was in the path of it. He probably wouldn't
  say anything since he 
  and everything else on this planet would be burnt to
  toast. Such are 
  the laws of nature.
  
  Do solar flares come out this far?
 
 Bevan's tummy comes out this far
 

My tummy is far  FAR bigger than his. Comes from having an unrepaired 
paraubmilical 
hernia.

L (who admires the enlightened attidudes and humor revealed in most postings on 
this 
forum)






[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's report on flooding in Iowa (and other stuff)

2008-06-24 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kenny H wrote:
  This from a friend on Mother Divine:
 
  Are you wondering how all this flooding could be going on with so 
  many Pandits? We are surprised at Natural Law. Definitely in the 
  phase transition here. Hopefully lots of light very soon. But one 
  thing the press has reported that as waters receeded in Cedar 
Rapids 
  it left behind a toxic brew of farm pesticide, chemicals and 
toxic 
  wastes.  
 
  Bevan has pointed out that one thing that we won't see in Heaven 
on 
  Earth is chemical ag. He threw up his arms and said he couldn't 
  pretend to know the mechanics of nature's functioning here. 
(Bevan 
  currently here.)






 I can't see how a bunch of guys chanting Sanskrit is going to have 
much 
 of any effect other than getting those guys high and maybe a little 
 better atmosphere very close to where they live.   Unless one 
believes 
 the deities micromanage there is going to be little effect.  


*

The Vedic Mantras are the names of the Devatas which govern the 
physiology of every individual and which administer the whole 
universe. Reciting the names creates reverberations in the Devata 
value in the human physiology, and which in turn creates a 
reverberation in the cosmic value of Devata. A relationship is 
created between the Devatas in the physiology and the Devatas in the 
cosmos. We create a relationship of our consciousness, mind and 
physiology with the cosmic consciousness, mind and physiology through 
these words of the Veda. We can command the structure of the universe 
from within our own structure. Through the Maharishi Yagya 
performance different values of Devata are enlivened in our 
physiology and in the corresponding value of the cosmic 
physiology...The Maharishi Yagya performances are set procedures. 
They have not been invented by any human being, but have existed as 
part of Natural Law at all times. When the yagya is performed, the 
pandits may for example begin by chanting a particular Mantra from 
Rigveda to enliven a specific aspect of a Devata. They may then 
continue with reciting another Mantra from Samaveda to enliven 
another aspect of a Devata. In continuing this process of enlivening 
various aspects of the Devatas in a set procedure they create a new 
entity, a new Devata. This new aspect of Natural Law, created by the 
Yagya, has all the power which is needed to fulfill the initial 
Sankalpa, the purpose of the yagya. (from the Jan 2002 newletter of 
the Maharishi Yagya program, Hillsboro, NH 03244)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's report on flooding in Iowa (and other stuff)

2008-06-24 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Vedic Mantras are the names of the Devatas which govern the 
 physiology of every individual and which administer the whole 
 universe. Reciting the names creates reverberations in the Devata 
 value in the human physiology, and which in turn creates a 
 reverberation in the cosmic value of Devata. A relationship is 
 created between the Devatas in the physiology and the Devatas in the 
 cosmos. We create a relationship of our consciousness, mind and 
 physiology with the cosmic consciousness, mind and physiology through 
 these words of the Veda. We can command the structure of the universe 
 from within our own structure. Through the Maharishi Yagya 
 performance different values of Devata are enlivened in our 
 physiology and in the corresponding value of the cosmic 
 physiology...The Maharishi Yagya performances are set procedures. 
 They have not been invented by any human being, but have existed as 
 part of Natural Law at all times. When the yagya is performed, the 
 pandits may for example begin by chanting a particular Mantra from 
 Rigveda to enliven a specific aspect of a Devata. They may then 
 continue with reciting another Mantra from Samaveda to enliven 
 another aspect of a Devata. In continuing this process of enlivening 
 various aspects of the Devatas in a set procedure they create a new 
 entity, a new Devata. This new aspect of Natural Law, created by the 
 Yagya, has all the power which is needed to fulfill the initial 
 Sankalpa, the purpose of the yagya. (from the Jan 2002 newletter of 
 the Maharishi Yagya program, Hillsboro, NH 03244)

As an external *religious* rite mentioned in the Hindu scriptures,
one form of yajna is a ceremony in which ghee (clarified butter) and
other oblations such as incense and flowers are offered into a sacred
fire to the accompaniment of specific chants and prayers.  The
performance of such fire ceremonies without understanding their
symbolism is of little value.. Swami Yoganada

The ultimate Yajna is uniting the soul with Spirit, the object of Yoga
itself.  The 'clarified' butter represents the purified soul or jiva
(what MMY calls Cosmic Consciousness) and the fire, the Cosmic Flame
of Spirit, (what MMY calls the Unity Consciousness or Brahman).





[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's report on flooding in Iowa (and other stuff)

2008-06-24 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  Kenny H wrote:
   This from a friend on Mother Divine:
  
   Are you wondering how all this flooding could be going on with so 
   many Pandits? We are surprised at Natural Law. Definitely in the 
   phase transition here. Hopefully lots of light very soon. But one 
   thing the press has reported that as waters receeded in Cedar 
 Rapids 
   it left behind a toxic brew of farm pesticide, chemicals and 
 toxic 
   wastes.  
  
   Bevan has pointed out that one thing that we won't see in Heaven 
 on 
   Earth is chemical ag. He threw up his arms and said he couldn't 
   pretend to know the mechanics of nature's functioning here. 
 (Bevan 
   currently here.)
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I can't see how a bunch of guys chanting Sanskrit is going to have 
 much 
  of any effect other than getting those guys high and maybe a little 
  better atmosphere very close to where they live.   Unless one 
 believes 
  the deities micromanage there is going to be little effect.  
 
 
 *
 
 The Vedic Mantras are the names of the Devatas which govern the 
 physiology of every individual and which administer the whole 
 universe. Reciting the names creates reverberations in the Devata 
 value in the human physiology, and which in turn creates a 
 reverberation in the cosmic value of Devata. A relationship is 
 created between the Devatas in the physiology and the Devatas in the 
 cosmos. We create a relationship of our consciousness, mind and 
 physiology with the cosmic consciousness, mind and physiology through 
 these words of the Veda. We can command the structure of the universe 
 from within our own structure. Through the Maharishi Yagya 
 performance different values of Devata are enlivened in our 
 physiology and in the corresponding value of the cosmic 
 physiology...The Maharishi Yagya performances are set procedures. 
 They have not been invented by any human being, but have existed as 
 part of Natural Law at all times. When the yagya is performed, the 
 pandits may for example begin by chanting a particular Mantra from 
 Rigveda to enliven a specific aspect of a Devata. They may then 
 continue with reciting another Mantra from Samaveda to enliven 
 another aspect of a Devata. In continuing this process of enlivening 
 various aspects of the Devatas in a set procedure they create a new 
 entity, a new Devata. This new aspect of Natural Law, created by the 
 Yagya, has all the power which is needed to fulfill the initial 
 Sankalpa, the purpose of the yagya. (from the Jan 2002 newletter of 
 the Maharishi Yagya program, Hillsboro, NH 03244)


Don't you see? It's because Maharishisez! Duh...



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's report on flooding in Iowa (and other stuff)

2008-06-24 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kenny H wrote:
  This from a friend on Mother Divine:
 
  Are you wondering how all this flooding could be going on with so 
  many Pandits? We are surprised at Natural Law. Definitely in the 
  phase transition here. Hopefully lots of light very soon. But one 
  thing the press has reported that as waters receeded in Cedar Rapids 
  it left behind a toxic brew of farm pesticide, chemicals and toxic 
  wastes.  
 
  Bevan has pointed out that one thing that we won't see in Heaven on 
  Earth is chemical ag. He threw up his arms and said he couldn't 
  pretend to know the mechanics of nature's functioning here. (Bevan 
  currently here.)
 I can't see how a bunch of guys chanting Sanskrit is going to have much 
 of any effect other than getting those guys high and maybe a little 
 better atmosphere very close to where they live.   Unless one believes 
 the deities micromanage there is going to be little effect.  I wonder 
 what Bevan would say if the Sun suddenly belched a solar flare and the 
 earth was in the path of it.  He probably wouldn't say anything since he 
 and everything else on this planet would be burnt to toast.  Such are 
 the laws of nature.


According to MMY, devas are the personality of Western laws of nature.
 Without the yagyas,  they behave exactly like they do in western models (well, 
with a bit of extra chaos due to environmental stress).

So yeah, in MMY's world-view, the devas DO micromanage.


Lawson