[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 Wait, won't you git in trouble with the Golden Dome Police if you go to a 
 hare krishna deal?
 
 I can understand why the TMO would object to Dome-goers attending Hare 
 Krishna stuff, they don't want the TMO's life abnegating hindoo dogma to be 
 replaced by the hary krshna's brand of life abnegating hindoo dogma.
 

Do the Hari's also practice a silent meditation?

It is an interesting thing that for as big a movement as they are out in the 
world that it took so long for them to show up in Fairfield.  Hari Om.

-Buck

 
 
 
 
  From: Buck 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:25 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th
  
 
 
   
 Dear Om Tat Sat;
 It is a remarkable thing about this little town of Fairfield, Iowa that there 
 is so much spirituality going on all the time.  'So much to do, so little 
 time'.  And so many choices at any moment.  I would love to attend your 
 kirtan and meal.  Except that I have an obligation to attend the May Fair 
 today at the same time.  I may drop by your satsang afterwards for 
 left-overs.  This is so Fairfield.
 Welcome to the spiritual marketplace which is Fairfield.
 It's a joy,
 -Buck in the Dome 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Martin A Rosenthal rozenthalm@ wrote:
 
  Dear Friends:
  
  Please honor us with your presence at
  today's kirtan, lecture, and feast at 105 S 3rd Street in
  Fairfield, Iowa, beginning at noon today, Saturday, May 11th. If you can 
  not come in body, then come in mind in spirit in your
  heart, simply by reading the adventure below.
  
  I have promised to deliver a lecture of
  flying in the Vaishnava (those who believe in Vishnu as supreme)
  tradition.  Here is one such example among many.  The lecture will
  begin at 12:30, after Hare Krishna kirtan, which will begin at 12 pm. At 
  1:00 we shall all enjoy a six course feast of food prepared for
  the pleasure of Krishna and offered to Him with loving devotion. 
  Once Krishna has enjoyed our offerings by His merciful glance, it is
  transformed into Bhagavat Prasadam, which bestows love of Krishna
  upon all who experience it.  Even those who hear with faith about
  such a feast are elevated in Krishna Bhakti Yoga, or pure love for
  God, Who is know in countless traditions by countless names. 
  
  Recently, Krishna's Kindom of Dvaraka,
  has been discovered, off the west coast of India.
  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KkDMBhrAD4 )
  
  Once, in truth, in Dvarak, Krishnas
  city which recently has been discovered off beneath the sea .  India,
  there lived a holy brahmana who desired to have sons.  He had eight
  sons, but as soon as each was born, the infant died  In those times,
  the king was considered responsible for the safety of all of his
  citizens, and so the the brahmana took each of his dead infant sons
  and placed them before Maharaja Ugrasena, who did all within his
  power to rectify conditions within his kingdom so that such things
  would not occur again; just as in the modern day saintly kings engage
  their citizens in auspicious activities such as meditation upon the
  Supreme, yajna to the devatas, and other pure practices which promote
  the welfare of the individual and society at large.
  
  But try as he may, Maharaja Ugrasenda
  was unable to protect the sons of the brahmana, who therefore
  concluded that the king was lax in his duties to the Lord and the
  devatas but instead was enjoying his royal position only to gratify
  his senses and for the pleasure of his court. 
  
  Arjuna, who Krishna had instructed in
  the Bhagavad Gita, as we all well know, could not bear to hear these
  criticisms of the king, and he promised the aggrieved brahmana that
  he would protect the next child.  But the brahmana was so upset that
  he accused Arjuna of empty boasting, just as many leaders make
  promises to us which they are unable or unwilling to fulfill.  But
  Arjuna had good reason to believe that he could protect the child,
  for he had direct association with the devatas, such as Indra, the
  King of Heaven, who had given Arjuna his powerful and spiritually
  empowered bow, Gandiva.  Since Arjuna was a great warrior, and the
  son of Indra himself, he vowed that he would enter into fire if he
  could not protect the child.
  
  But the child died, and Arjuna, true to
  his word, prepared to sacrifice himself.  However, Shri Krishna, the
  friend of Arjuna, personally came and persuaded Arjuna not to give up
  his life.  â€ÅWe shall go and find the child.†he assured him. 
  There are many yogis in this world who can travel into outer space,
  but Krishna, who always enjoys the company of His devotees, summoned
  His horses and chariot, and He and Arjuna traversed the universe in
  search of the child, who could not be found, even in the court

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Buck]

Kind of surprising that the Krishna's have not evangelized Fairfield before now 
for as hard as they have worked the airports and street-corners once upon a 
time.  The Christians have always been hoping to try.  The Buddhists however 
are almost non-existent in Fairfield. 
-Buck in the Dome

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
 
  Wait, won't you git in trouble with the Golden Dome Police if you go to a 
  hare krishna deal?
  
  I can understand why the TMO would object to Dome-goers attending Hare 
  Krishna stuff, they don't want the TMO's life abnegating hindoo dogma to be 
  replaced by the hary krshna's brand of life abnegating hindoo dogma.
  
 
 Do the Hari's also practice a silent meditation?
 
 It is an interesting thing that for as big a movement as they are out in the 
 world that it took so long for them to show up in Fairfield.  Hari Om.
 
 -Buck
 
  
  
  
  
   From: Buck 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:25 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th
   
  
  
    
  Dear Om Tat Sat;
  It is a remarkable thing about this little town of Fairfield, Iowa that 
  there is so much spirituality going on all the time.  'So much to do, so 
  little time'.  And so many choices at any moment.  I would love to attend 
  your kirtan and meal.  Except that I have an obligation to attend the May 
  Fair today at the same time.  I may drop by your satsang afterwards for 
  left-overs.  This is so Fairfield.
  Welcome to the spiritual marketplace which is Fairfield.
  It's a joy,
  -Buck in the Dome 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Martin A Rosenthal rozenthalm@ 
  wrote:
  
   Dear Friends:
   
   Please honor us with your presence at
   today's kirtan, lecture, and feast at 105 S 3rd Street in
   Fairfield, Iowa, beginning at noon today, Saturday, May 11th. If you can 
   not come in body, then come in mind in spirit in your
   heart, simply by reading the adventure below.
   
   I have promised to deliver a lecture of
   flying in the Vaishnava (those who believe in Vishnu as supreme)
   tradition.  Here is one such example among many.  The lecture will
   begin at 12:30, after Hare Krishna kirtan, which will begin at 12 pm. At 
   1:00 we shall all enjoy a six course feast of food prepared for
   the pleasure of Krishna and offered to Him with loving devotion. 
   Once Krishna has enjoyed our offerings by His merciful glance, it is
   transformed into Bhagavat Prasadam, which bestows love of Krishna
   upon all who experience it.  Even those who hear with faith about
   such a feast are elevated in Krishna Bhakti Yoga, or pure love for
   God, Who is know in countless traditions by countless names. 
   
   Recently, Krishna's Kindom of Dvaraka,
   has been discovered, off the west coast of India.
   (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KkDMBhrAD4 )
   
   Once, in truth, in Dvarak, Krishnas
   city which recently has been discovered off beneath the sea .  India,
   there lived a holy brahmana who desired to have sons.  He had eight
   sons, but as soon as each was born, the infant died  In those times,
   the king was considered responsible for the safety of all of his
   citizens, and so the the brahmana took each of his dead infant sons
   and placed them before Maharaja Ugrasena, who did all within his
   power to rectify conditions within his kingdom so that such things
   would not occur again; just as in the modern day saintly kings engage
   their citizens in auspicious activities such as meditation upon the
   Supreme, yajna to the devatas, and other pure practices which promote
   the welfare of the individual and society at large.
   
   But try as he may, Maharaja Ugrasenda
   was unable to protect the sons of the brahmana, who therefore
   concluded that the king was lax in his duties to the Lord and the
   devatas but instead was enjoying his royal position only to gratify
   his senses and for the pleasure of his court. 
   
   Arjuna, who Krishna had instructed in
   the Bhagavad Gita, as we all well know, could not bear to hear these
   criticisms of the king, and he promised the aggrieved brahmana that
   he would protect the next child.  But the brahmana was so upset that
   he accused Arjuna of empty boasting, just as many leaders make
   promises to us which they are unable or unwilling to fulfill.  But
   Arjuna had good reason to believe that he could protect the child,
   for he had direct association with the devatas, such as Indra, the
   King of Heaven, who had given Arjuna his powerful and spiritually
   empowered bow, Gandiva.  Since Arjuna was a great warrior, and the
   son of Indra himself, he vowed that he would enter into fire if he
   could not protect the child.
   
   But the child died, and Arjuna, true to
   his word, prepared to sacrifice himself.  However, Shri Krishna, the
   friend of Arjuna, personally came

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[sparaig]

ISKON members consider Shankara and his advait vedanta to be a Buddhist wannabe 
thang and completely anti real Hinduism.

Buddhists either believe that shamatha does just what TM does, so why bother 
learning TM, or, if they accept that TM does something different, it leads to 
more illusion because it strengthens a sense of self which many/most 
Buddhists see as a false perception.


L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
 Kind of surprising that the Krishna's have not evangelized Fairfield before 
 now for as hard as they have worked the airports and street-corners once upon 
 a time.  The Christians have always been hoping to try.  The Buddhists 
 however are almost non-existent in Fairfield. 
 -Buck in the Dome
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
  
   Wait, won't you git in trouble with the Golden Dome Police if you go to a 
   hare krishna deal?
   
   I can understand why the TMO would object to Dome-goers attending Hare 
   Krishna stuff, they don't want the TMO's life abnegating hindoo dogma to 
   be replaced by the hary krshna's brand of life abnegating hindoo dogma.
   
  
  Do the Hari's also practice a silent meditation?
  
  It is an interesting thing that for as big a movement as they are out in 
  the world that it took so long for them to show up in Fairfield.  Hari Om.
  
  -Buck
  
   
   
   
   
From: Buck 
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:25 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

   
   
     
   Dear Om Tat Sat;
   It is a remarkable thing about this little town of Fairfield, Iowa that 
   there is so much spirituality going on all the time.  'So much to do, so 
   little time'.  And so many choices at any moment.  I would love to attend 
   your kirtan and meal.  Except that I have an obligation to attend the May 
   Fair today at the same time.  I may drop by your satsang afterwards for 
   left-overs.  This is so Fairfield.
   Welcome to the spiritual marketplace which is Fairfield.
   It's a joy,
   -Buck in the Dome 
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Martin A Rosenthal rozenthalm@ 
   wrote:
   
Dear Friends:

Please honor us with your presence at
today's kirtan, lecture, and feast at 105 S 3rd Street in
Fairfield, Iowa, beginning at noon today, Saturday, May 11th. If you 
can not come in body, then come in mind in spirit in your
heart, simply by reading the adventure below.

I have promised to deliver a lecture of
flying in the Vaishnava (those who believe in Vishnu as supreme)
tradition.  Here is one such example among many.  The lecture will
begin at 12:30, after Hare Krishna kirtan, which will begin at 12 pm. 
At 1:00 we shall all enjoy a six course feast of food prepared for
the pleasure of Krishna and offered to Him with loving devotion. 
Once Krishna has enjoyed our offerings by His merciful glance, it is
transformed into Bhagavat Prasadam, which bestows love of Krishna
upon all who experience it.  Even those who hear with faith about
such a feast are elevated in Krishna Bhakti Yoga, or pure love for
God, Who is know in countless traditions by countless names. 

Recently, Krishna's Kindom of Dvaraka,
has been discovered, off the west coast of India.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KkDMBhrAD4 )

Once, in truth, in Dvarak, Krishnas
city which recently has been discovered off beneath the sea .  India,
there lived a holy brahmana who desired to have sons.  He had eight
sons, but as soon as each was born, the infant died  In those times,
the king was considered responsible for the safety of all of his
citizens, and so the the brahmana took each of his dead infant sons
and placed them before Maharaja Ugrasena, who did all within his
power to rectify conditions within his kingdom so that such things
would not occur again; just as in the modern day saintly kings engage
their citizens in auspicious activities such as meditation upon the
Supreme, yajna to the devatas, and other pure practices which promote
the welfare of the individual and society at large.

But try as he may, Maharaja Ugrasenda
was unable to protect the sons of the brahmana, who therefore
concluded that the king was lax in his duties to the Lord and the
devatas but instead was enjoying his royal position only to gratify
his senses and for the pleasure of his court. 

Arjuna, who Krishna had instructed in
the Bhagavad Gita, as we all well know, could not bear to hear these
criticisms of the king, and he promised the aggrieved brahmana that
he would protect the next child.  But the brahmana was so upset that
he accused Arjuna of empty boasting, just as many leaders make
promises to us which they are unable

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[doctordumbass]

Too bad, but at least a Buddhist invented Red Bull, to counteract some of the 
lethargy and stupification caused by surface meditation techniques. The Dharma. 
:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:

 ISKON members consider Shankara and his advait vedanta to be a Buddhist 
 wannabe thang and completely anti real Hinduism.
 
 Buddhists either believe that shamatha does just what TM does, so why bother 
 learning TM, or, if they accept that TM does something different, it leads to 
 more illusion because it strengthens a sense of self which many/most 
 Buddhists see as a false perception.
 
 
 L
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  
  Kind of surprising that the Krishna's have not evangelized Fairfield before 
  now for as hard as they have worked the airports and street-corners once 
  upon a time.  The Christians have always been hoping to try.  The Buddhists 
  however are almost non-existent in Fairfield. 
  -Buck in the Dome
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
   
Wait, won't you git in trouble with the Golden Dome Police if you go to 
a hare krishna deal?

I can understand why the TMO would object to Dome-goers attending Hare 
Krishna stuff, they don't want the TMO's life abnegating hindoo dogma 
to be replaced by the hary krshna's brand of life abnegating hindoo 
dogma.

   
   Do the Hari's also practice a silent meditation?
   
   It is an interesting thing that for as big a movement as they are out in 
   the world that it took so long for them to show up in Fairfield.  Hari Om.
   
   -Buck
   




 From: Buck 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:25 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th
 


  
Dear Om Tat Sat;
It is a remarkable thing about this little town of Fairfield, Iowa that 
there is so much spirituality going on all the time.  'So much to do, 
so little time'.  And so many choices at any moment.  I would love to 
attend your kirtan and meal.  Except that I have an obligation to 
attend the May Fair today at the same time.  I may drop by your satsang 
afterwards for left-overs.  This is so Fairfield.
Welcome to the spiritual marketplace which is Fairfield.
It's a joy,
-Buck in the Dome 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Martin A Rosenthal rozenthalm@ 
wrote:

 Dear Friends:
 
 Please honor us with your presence at
 today's kirtan, lecture, and feast at 105 S 3rd Street in
 Fairfield, Iowa, beginning at noon today, Saturday, May 11th. If you 
 can not come in body, then come in mind in spirit in your
 heart, simply by reading the adventure below.
 
 I have promised to deliver a lecture of
 flying in the Vaishnava (those who believe in Vishnu as supreme)
 tradition.  Here is one such example among many.  The lecture will
 begin at 12:30, after Hare Krishna kirtan, which will begin at 12 pm. 
 At 1:00 we shall all enjoy a six course feast of food prepared for
 the pleasure of Krishna and offered to Him with loving devotion. 
 Once Krishna has enjoyed our offerings by His merciful glance, it is
 transformed into Bhagavat Prasadam, which bestows love of Krishna
 upon all who experience it.  Even those who hear with faith about
 such a feast are elevated in Krishna Bhakti Yoga, or pure love for
 God, Who is know in countless traditions by countless names. 
 
 Recently, Krishna's Kindom of Dvaraka,
 has been discovered, off the west coast of India.
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KkDMBhrAD4 )
 
 Once, in truth, in Dvarak, Krishnas
 city which recently has been discovered off beneath the sea .  India,
 there lived a holy brahmana who desired to have sons.  He had eight
 sons, but as soon as each was born, the infant died  In those times,
 the king was considered responsible for the safety of all of his
 citizens, and so the the brahmana took each of his dead infant sons
 and placed them before Maharaja Ugrasena, who did all within his
 power to rectify conditions within his kingdom so that such things
 would not occur again; just as in the modern day saintly kings engage
 their citizens in auspicious activities such as meditation upon the
 Supreme, yajna to the devatas, and other pure practices which promote
 the welfare of the individual and society at large.
 
 But try as he may, Maharaja Ugrasenda
 was unable to protect the sons of the brahmana, who therefore
 concluded that the king was lax in his duties to the Lord and the
 devatas but instead was enjoying his royal position only to gratify
 his senses and for the pleasure of his court. 
 
 Arjuna, who Krishna had

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
 
  Wait, won't you git in trouble with the Golden Dome Police if you go to a 
  hare krishna deal?
  
  I can understand why the TMO would object to Dome-goers attending Hare 
  Krishna stuff, they don't want the TMO's life abnegating hindoo dogma to be 
  replaced by the hary krshna's brand of life abnegating hindoo dogma.
  
 
 Do the Hari's also practice a silent meditation?

No, it's chanting all the way for those dudes.
 
 It is an interesting thing that for as big a movement as they are out in the 
 world that it took so long for them to show up in Fairfield.  Hari Om.

Whenever I've bumped into them in the street or been to their
restaurant in London, if they find out I'm a TMer they always
get really interested in a) finding out my mantra, and b) getting
me chanting instead of doing an inferior repetitive technique.
I tell them TM isn't repetitive but they don't listen.

I tried the chant once or twice and it's quite nice I suppose,
definitely does something, but having to do it 108 times a day
at *least* seems a tad excessive and not the sort of thing I
could do on the train like me TM.

But that didn't stop the Beatles and the Stones and all their 
hangers on switching to Iskon in droves and proclaiming it the
best thing they'd ever done, and that's before they'd even got
their photos of Marshy at Rishikesh back from the chemist. 

Maybe the Harries are hoping for a similar swing this time round?


 
 -Buck
 
  
  
  
  
   From: Buck 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:25 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th
   
  
  
    
  Dear Om Tat Sat;
  It is a remarkable thing about this little town of Fairfield, Iowa that 
  there is so much spirituality going on all the time.  'So much to do, so 
  little time'.  And so many choices at any moment.  I would love to attend 
  your kirtan and meal.  Except that I have an obligation to attend the May 
  Fair today at the same time.  I may drop by your satsang afterwards for 
  left-overs.  This is so Fairfield.
  Welcome to the spiritual marketplace which is Fairfield.
  It's a joy,
  -Buck in the Dome 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Martin A Rosenthal rozenthalm@ 
  wrote:
  
   Dear Friends:
   
   Please honor us with your presence at
   today's kirtan, lecture, and feast at 105 S 3rd Street in
   Fairfield, Iowa, beginning at noon today, Saturday, May 11th. If you can 
   not come in body, then come in mind in spirit in your
   heart, simply by reading the adventure below.
   
   I have promised to deliver a lecture of
   flying in the Vaishnava (those who believe in Vishnu as supreme)
   tradition.  Here is one such example among many.  The lecture will
   begin at 12:30, after Hare Krishna kirtan, which will begin at 12 pm. At 
   1:00 we shall all enjoy a six course feast of food prepared for
   the pleasure of Krishna and offered to Him with loving devotion. 
   Once Krishna has enjoyed our offerings by His merciful glance, it is
   transformed into Bhagavat Prasadam, which bestows love of Krishna
   upon all who experience it.  Even those who hear with faith about
   such a feast are elevated in Krishna Bhakti Yoga, or pure love for
   God, Who is know in countless traditions by countless names. 
   
   Recently, Krishna's Kindom of Dvaraka,
   has been discovered, off the west coast of India.
   (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KkDMBhrAD4 )
   
   Once, in truth, in Dvarak, Krishnas
   city which recently has been discovered off beneath the sea .  India,
   there lived a holy brahmana who desired to have sons.  He had eight
   sons, but as soon as each was born, the infant died  In those times,
   the king was considered responsible for the safety of all of his
   citizens, and so the the brahmana took each of his dead infant sons
   and placed them before Maharaja Ugrasena, who did all within his
   power to rectify conditions within his kingdom so that such things
   would not occur again; just as in the modern day saintly kings engage
   their citizens in auspicious activities such as meditation upon the
   Supreme, yajna to the devatas, and other pure practices which promote
   the welfare of the individual and society at large.
   
   But try as he may, Maharaja Ugrasenda
   was unable to protect the sons of the brahmana, who therefore
   concluded that the king was lax in his duties to the Lord and the
   devatas but instead was enjoying his royal position only to gratify
   his senses and for the pleasure of his court. 
   
   Arjuna, who Krishna had instructed in
   the Bhagavad Gita, as we all well know, could not bear to hear these
   criticisms of the king, and he promised the aggrieved brahmana that
   he would protect the next child.  But the brahmana was so upset

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Michael Jackson]

Ah, but Paul and Ringo are back in the fold - it just happened magically you 
know, one day Ringo and Paul just woke up without any inducements from D Lynch 
and said Ah, you  know what? I'm gonna quit smokin' pot and declare myself on 
board with al the David Lynch Pro-TM crap. And everyone is gonna believe 
it.





 From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:31 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
 
  Wait, won't you git in trouble with the Golden Dome Police if you go to a 
  hare krishna deal?
  
  I can understand why the TMO would object to Dome-goers attending Hare 
  Krishna stuff, they don't want the TMO's life abnegating hindoo dogma to be 
  replaced by the hary krshna's brand of life abnegating hindoo dogma.
  
 
 Do the Hari's also practice a silent meditation?

No, it's chanting all the way for those dudes.

 It is an interesting thing that for as big a movement as they are out in the 
 world that it took so long for them to show up in Fairfield.  Hari Om.

Whenever I've bumped into them in the street or been to their
restaurant in London, if they find out I'm a TMer they always
get really interested in a) finding out my mantra, and b) getting
me chanting instead of doing an inferior repetitive technique.
I tell them TM isn't repetitive but they don't listen.

I tried the chant once or twice and it's quite nice I suppose,
definitely does something, but having to do it 108 times a day
at *least* seems a tad excessive and not the sort of thing I
could do on the train like me TM.

But that didn't stop the Beatles and the Stones and all their 
hangers on switching to Iskon in droves and proclaiming it the
best thing they'd ever done, and that's before they'd even got
their photos of Marshy at Rishikesh back from the chemist. 

Maybe the Harries are hoping for a similar swing this time round?

 
 -Buck
 
  
  
  
  
   From: Buck 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:25 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th
  
  
  
    
  Dear Om Tat Sat;
  It is a remarkable thing about this little town of Fairfield, Iowa that 
  there is so much spirituality going on all the time.  'So much to do, so 
  little time'.  And so many choices at any moment.  I would love to attend 
  your kirtan and meal.  Except that I have an obligation to attend the May 
  Fair today at the same time.  I may drop by your satsang afterwards for 
  left-overs.  This is so Fairfield.
  Welcome to the spiritual marketplace which is Fairfield.
  It's a joy,
  -Buck in the Dome 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Martin A Rosenthal rozenthalm@ 
  wrote:
  
   Dear Friends:
   
   Please honor us with your presence at
   today's kirtan, lecture, and feast at 105 S 3rd Street in
   Fairfield, Iowa, beginning at noon today, Saturday, May 11th. If you can 
   not come in body, then come in mind in spirit in your
   heart, simply by reading the adventure below.
   
   I have promised to deliver a lecture of
   flying in the Vaishnava (those who believe in Vishnu as supreme)
   tradition.  Here is one such example among many.  The lecture will
   begin at 12:30, after Hare Krishna kirtan, which will begin at 12 pm. At 
   1:00 we shall all enjoy a six course feast of food prepared for
   the pleasure of Krishna and offered to Him with loving devotion. 
   Once Krishna has enjoyed our offerings by His merciful glance, it is
   transformed into Bhagavat Prasadam, which bestows love of Krishna
   upon all who experience it.  Even those who hear with faith about
   such a feast are elevated in Krishna Bhakti Yoga, or pure love for
   God, Who is know in countless traditions by countless names. 
   
   Recently, Krishna's Kindom of Dvaraka,
   has been discovered, off the west coast of India.
   (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KkDMBhrAD4 )
   
   Once, in truth, in Dvarak, Krishnas
   city which recently has been discovered off beneath the sea .  India,
   there lived a holy brahmana who desired to have sons.  He had eight
   sons, but as soon as each was born, the infant died  In those times,
   the king was considered responsible for the safety of all of his
   citizens, and so the the brahmana took each of his dead infant sons
   and placed them before Maharaja Ugrasena, who did all within his
   power to rectify conditions within his kingdom so that such things
   would not occur again; just as in the modern day saintly kings engage
   their citizens in auspicious activities such as meditation upon the
   Supreme, yajna to the devatas, and other pure practices which promote
   the welfare of the individual and society at large

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Jason]

  
   On 05/12/2013 09:58 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
   
   
   
---  Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
   
   
---  Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.
   
   
---  salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?
   
   
---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
   
Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. 
And, ditch the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.
   
Replace the steak with fish, it's better for you.
   
I eat only one meat/poultry/fish/eggs meal per day, eaten between mid 
morning and early afternoon, and I alternate with two days of 
fish/eggs/poultry followed by one day pastured beef or lamb. The dairy 
in my diet is Radiance Dairy cream in my coffee, one little cup of full 
fat fruit yogurt 5-6 days a week, and a little butter. The bulk of my 
diet is non-starchy plant foods, much of it raw. I eat my last meal of 
the day, usually carrot sticks and guacamole, at 5pm, so that I sleep 
on an empty stomach and basically fast for 12 hours every day.
   
Personally, I don't care what any mainstream dietary dogma or 
conventional wisdom says is healthy. I spent decades believing that 
kind of stuff while completely ignoring my body telling me that it was 
all wrong for my physiology. With all my experience from eating wrong 
to eating right, I am now acutely aware of my metabolism and how it is 
affected by diet. I experience two types of hunger: caloric hunger and 
nutrient hunger. I eat the red meat that I do because it provides a 
deep sense of nutrient satiety that no other food provides. I avoid 
starch because I'm carbohydrate sensitive, and the glucose load spikes 
and crashes my blood sugar, making me tired and lethargic and ramping 
up caloric hunger to a level that drives overeating. My diet is all 
about high quality, nutrient dense foods that give the body what it 
needs while maintaining a state of endocrine serenity.
   
   
  ---  Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   
   Are you a brittle diabetic?  My aunt who was my mother's twin sister 
   and an RN always thought my mother was.  In fact my mother had a GTT and 
   it had the curve and she also suffered from hypoglycemia.  Same with 
   me.  I thought the term brittle diabetic was something my aunt made up 
   but it is a real medical term. Brittle diabetics are like type 1 but the 
   condition is too unstable to diagnose as type 1.   And yes, chasing your 
   blood sugar can really put the weight on.
  
  
 ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 
  I've never gotten any kind of diagnosis, but I've had blood sugar issues my 
  entire life. For the most part, I grew out of the worst of it, which then 
  allowed me to spend the first two decades of my adulthood believing 
  Ayurvedic and new age dietary dogmas and eating a diet largely based on 
  grains and beans. Thankfully, an ugly descent into middle age put an end to 
  that. A few years ago, my HbA1c tested normal, so I don't think I have 
  diabetes.
 
 
---  Susan wayback71@... wrote:

 Alex, I find an egg or 2 for breakfast keeps me steady for a long period of 
 time.  And I feel really satisfied.  A great food, for me.


http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/14/news/la-heb-egg-cholesterol-smoking-20120814

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote:

 
 http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/14/news/la-heb-egg-cholesterol-smoking-20120814


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-katz-md/eggs-health_b_1818209.html

http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/cmasterjohn/2012/08/16/does-eating-egg-yolks-increase-arterial-plaque/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Bhairitu]

On 05/13/2013 06:14 AM, Jason wrote:

 On 05/12/2013 09:58 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:


 ---  Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
 ---  Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
 If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
 ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.


 ---  salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
 Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?


 ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:

 Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, 
 ditch the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.

 Replace the steak with fish, it's better for you.
 I eat only one meat/poultry/fish/eggs meal per day, eaten between mid 
 morning and early afternoon, and I alternate with two days of 
 fish/eggs/poultry followed by one day pastured beef or lamb. The dairy in 
 my diet is Radiance Dairy cream in my coffee, one little cup of full fat 
 fruit yogurt 5-6 days a week, and a little butter. The bulk of my diet is 
 non-starchy plant foods, much of it raw. I eat my last meal of the day, 
 usually carrot sticks and guacamole, at 5pm, so that I sleep on an empty 
 stomach and basically fast for 12 hours every day.

 Personally, I don't care what any mainstream dietary dogma or 
 conventional wisdom says is healthy. I spent decades believing that 
 kind of stuff while completely ignoring my body telling me that it was 
 all wrong for my physiology. With all my experience from eating wrong to 
 eating right, I am now acutely aware of my metabolism and how it is 
 affected by diet. I experience two types of hunger: caloric hunger and 
 nutrient hunger. I eat the red meat that I do because it provides a deep 
 sense of nutrient satiety that no other food provides. I avoid starch 
 because I'm carbohydrate sensitive, and the glucose load spikes and 
 crashes my blood sugar, making me tired and lethargic and ramping up 
 caloric hunger to a level that drives overeating. My diet is all about 
 high quality, nutrient dense foods that give the body what it needs while 
 maintaining a state of endocrine serenity.


 ---  Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 Are you a brittle diabetic?  My aunt who was my mother's twin sister
 and an RN always thought my mother was.  In fact my mother had a GTT and
 it had the curve and she also suffered from hypoglycemia.  Same with
 me.  I thought the term brittle diabetic was something my aunt made up
 but it is a real medical term. Brittle diabetics are like type 1 but the
 condition is too unstable to diagnose as type 1.   And yes, chasing your
 blood sugar can really put the weight on.

 ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 I've never gotten any kind of diagnosis, but I've had blood sugar issues my 
 entire life. For the most part, I grew out of the worst of it, which then 
 allowed me to spend the first two decades of my adulthood believing 
 Ayurvedic and new age dietary dogmas and eating a diet largely based on 
 grains and beans. Thankfully, an ugly descent into middle age put an end to 
 that. A few years ago, my HbA1c tested normal, so I don't think I have 
 diabetes.

 ---  Susan wayback71@... wrote:
 Alex, I find an egg or 2 for breakfast keeps me steady for a long period of 
 time.  And I feel really satisfied.  A great food, for me.

 http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/14/news/la-heb-egg-cholesterol-smoking-20120814

Typical western research where they don't determine the different body 
types.  Yes, some people may not  do well with eggs and others may do 
just fine.  BTW, using some herbs t slow the metabolism if a fast 
metabolism is causing hypoglycemia will solve the problem even for 
vegetarians.   And those herbs can be found in many kitchen cabinets.  
They're nothing exotic.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 Ah, but Paul and Ringo are back in the fold - it just happened magically you 
 know, one day Ringo and Paul just woke up without any inducements from D 
 Lynch and said Ah, you  know what? I'm gonna quit smokin' pot and declare 
 myself on board with al the David Lynch Pro-TM crap. And everyone is 
 gonna believe it.

Right. The two of them have really been hurting for funds
recently, so I'm sure they jumped at whatever Lynch had
offered them.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Michael Jackson]

I didn't say it was money that lured them in - there are blandishments and 
there are blandishments.





 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 12:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 Ah, but Paul and Ringo are back in the fold - it just happened magically you 
 know, one day Ringo and Paul just woke up without any inducements from D 
 Lynch and said Ah, you  know what? I'm gonna quit smokin' pot and declare 
 myself on board with al the David Lynch Pro-TM crap. And everyone is 
 gonna believe it.

Right. The two of them have really been hurting for funds
recently, so I'm sure they jumped at whatever Lynch had
offered them.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 I didn't say it was money that lured them in - there are
 blandishments and there are blandishments.

Such as?

Oh, wait, I know--he was blackmailing them! 


 
  From: authfriend authfriend@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 12:16 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th
  
 
 
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
 
  Ah, but Paul and Ringo are back in the fold - it just happened magically 
  you know, one day Ringo and Paul just woke up without any inducements from 
  D Lynch and said Ah, you  know what? I'm gonna quit smokin' pot and 
  declare myself on board with al the David Lynch Pro-TM crap. And 
  everyone is gonna believe it.
 
 Right. The two of them have really been hurting for funds
 recently, so I'm sure they jumped at whatever Lynch had
 offered them.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Jason]

   
   
   ---  Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
   
If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
   
  ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
  
   Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.
  
  
 ---  salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
 
  Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?
 
 
---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote:

 Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, ditch 
 the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.


Replace the steak with fish, it's better for you.  

Any other meat, better marinate it with rosemary or else 
cancer causing substances would form in it while cooking.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Share Long]

Last night, another seafood place, O'Leary's with Dad and step Mom.  I had 
rockfish with orzo and sugar peas.  I think I'm headed for gout (-:





 From: John jr_...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:11 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th
 


  
Share,

The lunch sounds delicious.  I like salmon but haven't tried it with bok choy 
as of yet.

If you can get bok choy over there, you should try Chinese long beans, and mung 
beans for your food preparation.  They're good for health as well.

JR

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Thank God, I just came from lunch with Mom, sister, niece in Annapolis on 
 Carroll's Creek which flows into the Chesapeake Bay.  I got salmon and baby 
 bok choy and mashed cauliflower to die for.  So carry on talking about 
 food.  I am replete and all three doshas are humming along quite nicely (-:
 
 
 
 
 
  From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 1:18 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th
 
 
 
   
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Count me in! RSVP, I enjoy my steak medium-well, and I'd like a seat in the 
  smoking section, please. Hare Hare Krishna Krishna!
 
 And bring a bottle of Rum :-)
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Martin A Rosenthal rozenthalm@ 
  wrote:
  
   Dear Friends:



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote:

 


---  Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:

 If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.

   ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
   
Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.
   
   
  ---  salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
  
   Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?
  
  
 ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 
  Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, 
  ditch the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.
 
 
 Replace the steak with fish, it's better for you.  

I eat only one meat/poultry/fish/eggs meal per day, eaten between mid morning 
and early afternoon, and I alternate with two days of fish/eggs/poultry 
followed by one day pastured beef or lamb. The dairy in my diet is Radiance 
Dairy cream in my coffee, one little cup of full fat fruit yogurt 5-6 days a 
week, and a little butter. The bulk of my diet is non-starchy plant foods, much 
of it raw. I eat my last meal of the day, usually carrot sticks and guacamole, 
at 5pm, so that I sleep on an empty stomach and basically fast for 12 hours 
every day.

Personally, I don't care what any mainstream dietary dogma or conventional 
wisdom says is healthy. I spent decades believing that kind of stuff while 
completely ignoring my body telling me that it was all wrong for my physiology. 
With all my experience from eating wrong to eating right, I am now acutely 
aware of my metabolism and how it is affected by diet. I experience two types 
of hunger: caloric hunger and nutrient hunger. I eat the red meat that I do 
because it provides a deep sense of nutrient satiety that no other food 
provides. I avoid starch because I'm carbohydrate sensitive, and the glucose 
load spikes and crashes my blood sugar, making me tired and lethargic and 
ramping up caloric hunger to a level that drives overeating. My diet is all 
about high quality, nutrient dense foods that give the body what it needs while 
maintaining a state of endocrine serenity. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Bhairitu]

On 05/12/2013 09:58 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote:


 ---  Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
 If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
 ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.


 ---  salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
 Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?


 ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:

 Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, 
 ditch the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.

 Replace the steak with fish, it's better for you.
 I eat only one meat/poultry/fish/eggs meal per day, eaten between mid morning 
 and early afternoon, and I alternate with two days of fish/eggs/poultry 
 followed by one day pastured beef or lamb. The dairy in my diet is Radiance 
 Dairy cream in my coffee, one little cup of full fat fruit yogurt 5-6 days a 
 week, and a little butter. The bulk of my diet is non-starchy plant foods, 
 much of it raw. I eat my last meal of the day, usually carrot sticks and 
 guacamole, at 5pm, so that I sleep on an empty stomach and basically fast for 
 12 hours every day.

 Personally, I don't care what any mainstream dietary dogma or conventional 
 wisdom says is healthy. I spent decades believing that kind of stuff while 
 completely ignoring my body telling me that it was all wrong for my 
 physiology. With all my experience from eating wrong to eating right, I am 
 now acutely aware of my metabolism and how it is affected by diet. I 
 experience two types of hunger: caloric hunger and nutrient hunger. I eat the 
 red meat that I do because it provides a deep sense of nutrient satiety that 
 no other food provides. I avoid starch because I'm carbohydrate sensitive, 
 and the glucose load spikes and crashes my blood sugar, making me tired and 
 lethargic and ramping up caloric hunger to a level that drives overeating. My 
 diet is all about high quality, nutrient dense foods that give the body what 
 it needs while maintaining a state of endocrine serenity.



Are you a brittle diabetic?  My aunt who was my mother's twin sister 
and an RN always thought my mother was.  In fact my mother had a GTT and 
it had the curve and she also suffered from hypoglycemia.  Same with 
me.  I thought the term brittle diabetic was something my aunt made up 
but it is a real medical term. Brittle diabetics are like type 1 but the 
condition is too unstable to diagnose as type 1.   And yes, chasing your 
blood sugar can really put the weight on.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Michael Jackson]

Brittle diabetics are those who experience wide blood sugar swings from very 
high to very low, although medically it generally refers to those who have 
significant lifestyle disruptions from the wild blood sugar swings. Some 
medical authorities believe that those who are brittle diabetics are those who 
are unhappy and if the unhappiness is resolved, the wide fluctuations cease.





 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th
 


  
On 05/12/2013 09:58 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote:


 ---  Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
 If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
 ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.


 ---  salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
 Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?


 ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:

 Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, 
 ditch the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.

 Replace the steak with fish, it's better for you.
 I eat only one meat/poultry/fish/eggs meal per day, eaten between mid morning 
 and early afternoon, and I alternate with two days of fish/eggs/poultry 
 followed by one day pastured beef or lamb. The dairy in my diet is Radiance 
 Dairy cream in my coffee, one little cup of full fat fruit yogurt 5-6 days a 
 week, and a little butter. The bulk of my diet is non-starchy plant foods, 
 much of it raw. I eat my last meal of the day, usually carrot sticks and 
 guacamole, at 5pm, so that I sleep on an empty stomach and basically fast for 
 12 hours every day.

 Personally, I don't care what any mainstream dietary dogma or conventional 
 wisdom says is healthy. I spent decades believing that kind of stuff while 
 completely ignoring my body telling me that it was all wrong for my 
 physiology. With all my experience from eating wrong to eating right, I am 
 now acutely aware of my metabolism and how it is affected by diet. I 
 experience two types of hunger: caloric hunger and nutrient hunger. I eat the 
 red meat that I do because it provides a deep sense of nutrient satiety that 
 no other food provides. I avoid starch because I'm carbohydrate sensitive, 
 and the glucose load spikes and crashes my blood sugar, making me tired and 
 lethargic and ramping up caloric hunger to a level that drives overeating. My 
 diet is all about high quality, nutrient dense foods that give the body what 
 it needs while maintaining a state of endocrine serenity.



Are you a brittle diabetic?  My aunt who was my mother's twin sister 
and an RN always thought my mother was.  In fact my mother had a GTT and 
it had the curve and she also suffered from hypoglycemia.  Same with 
me.  I thought the term brittle diabetic was something my aunt made up 
but it is a real medical term. Brittle diabetics are like type 1 but the 
condition is too unstable to diagnose as type 1.   And yes, chasing your 
blood sugar can really put the weight on.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 05/12/2013 09:58 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
 
 
  ---  Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
  If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
  ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
  Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.
 
 
  ---  salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
  Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?
 
 
  ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 
  Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, 
  ditch the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.
 
  Replace the steak with fish, it's better for you.
  I eat only one meat/poultry/fish/eggs meal per day, eaten between mid 
  morning and early afternoon, and I alternate with two days of 
  fish/eggs/poultry followed by one day pastured beef or lamb. The dairy in 
  my diet is Radiance Dairy cream in my coffee, one little cup of full fat 
  fruit yogurt 5-6 days a week, and a little butter. The bulk of my diet is 
  non-starchy plant foods, much of it raw. I eat my last meal of the day, 
  usually carrot sticks and guacamole, at 5pm, so that I sleep on an empty 
  stomach and basically fast for 12 hours every day.
 
  Personally, I don't care what any mainstream dietary dogma or conventional 
  wisdom says is healthy. I spent decades believing that kind of stuff while 
  completely ignoring my body telling me that it was all wrong for my 
  physiology. With all my experience from eating wrong to eating right, I am 
  now acutely aware of my metabolism and how it is affected by diet. I 
  experience two types of hunger: caloric hunger and nutrient hunger. I eat 
  the red meat that I do because it provides a deep sense of nutrient satiety 
  that no other food provides. I avoid starch because I'm carbohydrate 
  sensitive, and the glucose load spikes and crashes my blood sugar, making 
  me tired and lethargic and ramping up caloric hunger to a level that drives 
  overeating. My diet is all about high quality, nutrient dense foods that 
  give the body what it needs while maintaining a state of endocrine serenity.
 
 
 
 Are you a brittle diabetic?  My aunt who was my mother's twin sister 
 and an RN always thought my mother was.  In fact my mother had a GTT and 
 it had the curve and she also suffered from hypoglycemia.  Same with 
 me.  I thought the term brittle diabetic was something my aunt made up 
 but it is a real medical term. Brittle diabetics are like type 1 but the 
 condition is too unstable to diagnose as type 1.   And yes, chasing your 
 blood sugar can really put the weight on.


I've never gotten any kind of diagnosis, but I've had blood sugar issues my 
entire life. For the most part, I grew out of the worst of it, which then 
allowed me to spend the first two decades of my adulthood believing Ayurvedic 
and new age dietary dogmas and eating a diet largely based on grains and beans. 
Thankfully, an ugly descent into middle age put an end to that. A few years 
ago, my HbA1c tested normal, so I don't think I have diabetes.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Susan]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... 
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  On 05/12/2013 09:58 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
  
  
   ---  Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
   If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
   ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
   Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.
  
  
   ---  salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
   Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?
  
  
   ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
  
   Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, 
   ditch the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.
  
   Replace the steak with fish, it's better for you.
   I eat only one meat/poultry/fish/eggs meal per day, eaten between mid 
   morning and early afternoon, and I alternate with two days of 
   fish/eggs/poultry followed by one day pastured beef or lamb. The dairy in 
   my diet is Radiance Dairy cream in my coffee, one little cup of full fat 
   fruit yogurt 5-6 days a week, and a little butter. The bulk of my diet is 
   non-starchy plant foods, much of it raw. I eat my last meal of the day, 
   usually carrot sticks and guacamole, at 5pm, so that I sleep on an empty 
   stomach and basically fast for 12 hours every day.
  
   Personally, I don't care what any mainstream dietary dogma or 
   conventional wisdom says is healthy. I spent decades believing that 
   kind of stuff while completely ignoring my body telling me that it was 
   all wrong for my physiology. With all my experience from eating wrong to 
   eating right, I am now acutely aware of my metabolism and how it is 
   affected by diet. I experience two types of hunger: caloric hunger and 
   nutrient hunger. I eat the red meat that I do because it provides a deep 
   sense of nutrient satiety that no other food provides. I avoid starch 
   because I'm carbohydrate sensitive, and the glucose load spikes and 
   crashes my blood sugar, making me tired and lethargic and ramping up 
   caloric hunger to a level that drives overeating. My diet is all about 
   high quality, nutrient dense foods that give the body what it needs while 
   maintaining a state of endocrine serenity.
  
  
  
  Are you a brittle diabetic?  My aunt who was my mother's twin sister 
  and an RN always thought my mother was.  In fact my mother had a GTT and 
  it had the curve and she also suffered from hypoglycemia.  Same with 
  me.  I thought the term brittle diabetic was something my aunt made up 
  but it is a real medical term. Brittle diabetics are like type 1 but the 
  condition is too unstable to diagnose as type 1.   And yes, chasing your 
  blood sugar can really put the weight on.
 
 
 I've never gotten any kind of diagnosis, but I've had blood sugar issues my 
 entire life. For the most part, I grew out of the worst of it, which then 
 allowed me to spend the first two decades of my adulthood believing Ayurvedic 
 and new age dietary dogmas and eating a diet largely based on grains and 
 beans. Thankfully, an ugly descent into middle age put an end to that. A few 
 years ago, my HbA1c tested normal, so I don't think I have diabetes.


Alex, I find an egg or 2 for breakfast keeps me steady for a long period of 
time.  And I feel really satisfied.  A great food, for me.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Bhairitu]

On 05/12/2013 02:16 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
 On 05/12/2013 09:58 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
 ---  Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
 If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
 ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.


 ---  salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
 Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?


 ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:

 Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, 
 ditch the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.

 Replace the steak with fish, it's better for you.
 I eat only one meat/poultry/fish/eggs meal per day, eaten between mid 
 morning and early afternoon, and I alternate with two days of 
 fish/eggs/poultry followed by one day pastured beef or lamb. The dairy in 
 my diet is Radiance Dairy cream in my coffee, one little cup of full fat 
 fruit yogurt 5-6 days a week, and a little butter. The bulk of my diet is 
 non-starchy plant foods, much of it raw. I eat my last meal of the day, 
 usually carrot sticks and guacamole, at 5pm, so that I sleep on an empty 
 stomach and basically fast for 12 hours every day.

 Personally, I don't care what any mainstream dietary dogma or conventional 
 wisdom says is healthy. I spent decades believing that kind of stuff while 
 completely ignoring my body telling me that it was all wrong for my 
 physiology. With all my experience from eating wrong to eating right, I am 
 now acutely aware of my metabolism and how it is affected by diet. I 
 experience two types of hunger: caloric hunger and nutrient hunger. I eat 
 the red meat that I do because it provides a deep sense of nutrient satiety 
 that no other food provides. I avoid starch because I'm carbohydrate 
 sensitive, and the glucose load spikes and crashes my blood sugar, making 
 me tired and lethargic and ramping up caloric hunger to a level that drives 
 overeating. My diet is all about high quality, nutrient dense foods that 
 give the body what it needs while maintaining a state of endocrine serenity.


 Are you a brittle diabetic?  My aunt who was my mother's twin sister
 and an RN always thought my mother was.  In fact my mother had a GTT and
 it had the curve and she also suffered from hypoglycemia.  Same with
 me.  I thought the term brittle diabetic was something my aunt made up
 but it is a real medical term. Brittle diabetics are like type 1 but the
 condition is too unstable to diagnose as type 1.   And yes, chasing your
 blood sugar can really put the weight on.

 I've never gotten any kind of diagnosis, but I've had blood sugar issues my 
 entire life. For the most part, I grew out of the worst of it, which then 
 allowed me to spend the first two decades of my adulthood believing Ayurvedic 
 and new age dietary dogmas and eating a diet largely based on grains and 
 beans. Thankfully, an ugly descent into middle age put an end to that. A few 
 years ago, my HbA1c tested normal, so I don't think I have diabetes.



Not all ayurvedic physicians endorse vegetarianism.  It actually is not 
a part of ayurveda.  I piss off a lot of vegans when I tell them 
nutrition is not an ideology.  You have to eat what your body needs.  As 
I understand it brittle diabetes is not stable because it is a form of 
diabetes that is not always present.  Basically I minimize or stay away 
from sweets.  That's part of having read Sugar Blues back in the  1970s.

The carbohydrate/protein balance usually determines how fast you 
metabolize your foods.  It's basically what ayurveda is about as well as 
Chinese medicine.  Also heat speeds up the metabolism (surprise, 
surprise) and cool slows it down.  That's why I always found it easier 
to lose weight in summer.   Apparently most of the US public is high 
strung so they prefer sweet, salty and fat in their food.  Those are the 
comfort flavors.  Right there is an example of ayurvedic concepts in 
action but the information is from conventional medicine.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Buck]

Om, endocrine serenity is another term for Transcendence which comes from 
proper meditation.  -B  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... 
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  On 05/12/2013 09:58 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
  
  
   ---  Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
   If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
   ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
   Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.
  
  
   ---  salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
   Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?
  
  
   ---  Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
  
   Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, 
   ditch the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.
  
   Replace the steak with fish, it's better for you.
   I eat only one meat/poultry/fish/eggs meal per day, eaten between mid 
   morning and early afternoon, and I alternate with two days of 
   fish/eggs/poultry followed by one day pastured beef or lamb. The dairy in 
   my diet is Radiance Dairy cream in my coffee, one little cup of full fat 
   fruit yogurt 5-6 days a week, and a little butter. The bulk of my diet is 
   non-starchy plant foods, much of it raw. I eat my last meal of the day, 
   usually carrot sticks and guacamole, at 5pm, so that I sleep on an empty 
   stomach and basically fast for 12 hours every day.
  
   Personally, I don't care what any mainstream dietary dogma or 
   conventional wisdom says is healthy. I spent decades believing that 
   kind of stuff while completely ignoring my body telling me that it was 
   all wrong for my physiology. With all my experience from eating wrong to 
   eating right, I am now acutely aware of my metabolism and how it is 
   affected by diet. I experience two types of hunger: caloric hunger and 
   nutrient hunger. I eat the red meat that I do because it provides a deep 
   sense of nutrient satiety that no other food provides. I avoid starch 
   because I'm carbohydrate sensitive, and the glucose load spikes and 
   crashes my blood sugar, making me tired and lethargic and ramping up 
   caloric hunger to a level that drives overeating. My diet is all about 
   high quality, nutrient dense foods that give the body what it needs while 
   maintaining a state of endocrine serenity.
  
  
  
  Are you a brittle diabetic?  My aunt who was my mother's twin sister 
  and an RN always thought my mother was.  In fact my mother had a GTT and 
  it had the curve and she also suffered from hypoglycemia.  Same with 
  me.  I thought the term brittle diabetic was something my aunt made up 
  but it is a real medical term. Brittle diabetics are like type 1 but the 
  condition is too unstable to diagnose as type 1.   And yes, chasing your 
  blood sugar can really put the weight on.
 
 
 I've never gotten any kind of diagnosis, but I've had blood sugar issues my 
 entire life. For the most part, I grew out of the worst of it, which then 
 allowed me to spend the first two decades of my adulthood believing Ayurvedic 
 and new age dietary dogmas and eating a diet largely based on grains and 
 beans. Thankfully, an ugly descent into middle age put an end to that. A few 
 years ago, my HbA1c tested normal, so I don't think I have diabetes.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[doctordumbass]

Count me in! RSVP, I enjoy my steak medium-well, and I'd like a seat in the 
smoking section, please. Hare Hare Krishna Krishna!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Martin A Rosenthal rozenthalm@... wrote:

 Dear Friends:
 
 Please honor us with your presence at
 today's kirtan, lecture, and feast at 105 S 3rd Street in
 Fairfield, Iowa, beginning at noon today, Saturday, May 11th. If you can not 
 come in body, then come in mind in spirit in your
 heart, simply by reading the adventure below.
 
 I have promised to deliver a lecture of
 flying in the Vaishnava (those who believe in Vishnu as supreme)
 tradition.  Here is one such example among many.  The lecture will
 begin at 12:30, after Hare Krishna kirtan, which will begin at 12 pm. At 1:00 
 we shall all enjoy a six course feast of food prepared for
 the pleasure of Krishna and offered to Him with loving devotion. 
 Once Krishna has enjoyed our offerings by His merciful glance, it is
 transformed into Bhagavat Prasadam, which bestows love of Krishna
 upon all who experience it.  Even those who hear with faith about
 such a feast are elevated in Krishna Bhakti Yoga, or pure love for
 God, Who is know in countless traditions by countless names. 
 
 Recently, Krishna's Kindom of Dvaraka,
 has been discovered, off the west coast of India.
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KkDMBhrAD4 )
 
 Once, in truth, in Dvarak, Krishnas
 city which recently has been discovered off beneath the sea .  India,
 there lived a holy brahmana who desired to have sons.  He had eight
 sons, but as soon as each was born, the infant died  In those times,
 the king was considered responsible for the safety of all of his
 citizens, and so the the brahmana took each of his dead infant sons
 and placed them before Maharaja Ugrasena, who did all within his
 power to rectify conditions within his kingdom so that such things
 would not occur again; just as in the modern day saintly kings engage
 their citizens in auspicious activities such as meditation upon the
 Supreme, yajna to the devatas, and other pure practices which promote
 the welfare of the individual and society at large.
 
 But try as he may, Maharaja Ugrasenda
 was unable to protect the sons of the brahmana, who therefore
 concluded that the king was lax in his duties to the Lord and the
 devatas but instead was enjoying his royal position only to gratify
 his senses and for the pleasure of his court. 
 
 Arjuna, who Krishna had instructed in
 the Bhagavad Gita, as we all well know, could not bear to hear these
 criticisms of the king, and he promised the aggrieved brahmana that
 he would protect the next child.  But the brahmana was so upset that
 he accused Arjuna of empty boasting, just as many leaders make
 promises to us which they are unable or unwilling to fulfill.  But
 Arjuna had good reason to believe that he could protect the child,
 for he had direct association with the devatas, such as Indra, the
 King of Heaven, who had given Arjuna his powerful and spiritually
 empowered bow, Gandiva.  Since Arjuna was a great warrior, and the
 son of Indra himself, he vowed that he would enter into fire if he
 could not protect the child.
 
 But the child died, and Arjuna, true to
 his word, prepared to sacrifice himself.  However, Shri Krishna, the
 friend of Arjuna, personally came and persuaded Arjuna not to give up
 his life.  “We shall go and find the child.” he assured him. 
 There are many yogis in this world who can travel into outer space,
 but Krishna, who always enjoys the company of His devotees, summoned
 His horses and chariot, and He and Arjuna traversed the universe in
 search of the child, who could not be found, even in the court of
 Yamaraja, the superintendent of death.  Krishna therefore decided to
 search beyond this universe, so he directed His chariot across the
 dense darkness which covers all the living beings in this world.
 
 Due to this darkness, we are thinking
 that this is just another story, whose truth is simply allegorical. 
 But Krishna evoked His Sudarshan Chakra by whose glowing effulgence
 the darkness was dissipated.  This disk of light is also a
 personality, and its name, Sudarshan, indicates that it provides good
 (su) audience or vision (darshan).  A power, big wheel indeed!
 
 Following Sudarshan, Krishna and Arjuna
 approached Lord Narayana, whose name indicates that he is the source
 of all naras, or personalities.  Now, I shall quote directly from
 Shrimad Bhagavatam, available online at www.Vedabase.net. 
 SB
 10.89.58:
 [Lord Mahā-Viṣṇusaid:] I brought the brāhmaṇa's
 sons here because I wanted to see the two of you, My expansions, who
 have descended to the earth to save the principles of religion. As
 soon as you finish killing the demons who burden the earth, quickly
 come back here to Me.
 SB
 10.89.59:
 Although all your desires are completely fulfilled, O best of exalted
 personalities, for the benefit of the people in general you should
 continue to 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 Count me in! RSVP, I enjoy my steak medium-well, and I'd like a seat in the 
 smoking section, please. Hare Hare Krishna Krishna!

Oh geez, you're really back. It seems your small hiatus has not done you any 
harm. You could expand on this, you know - what the Doc saw and ate and learned 
at the inaugural opening of the Hare Krishna Center in FF. Share might be sorry 
she is missing this as she is away so it could stand as your report on the 
event for her and for us. If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - 
no lie.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Martin A Rosenthal rozenthalm@ wrote:
 
  Dear Friends:
  
  Please honor us with your presence at
  today's kirtan, lecture, and feast at 105 S 3rd Street in
  Fairfield, Iowa, beginning at noon today, Saturday, May 11th. If you can 
  not come in body, then come in mind in spirit in your
  heart, simply by reading the adventure below.
  
  I have promised to deliver a lecture of
  flying in the Vaishnava (those who believe in Vishnu as supreme)
  tradition.  Here is one such example among many.  The lecture will
  begin at 12:30, after Hare Krishna kirtan, which will begin at 12 pm. At 
  1:00 we shall all enjoy a six course feast of food prepared for
  the pleasure of Krishna and offered to Him with loving devotion. 
  Once Krishna has enjoyed our offerings by His merciful glance, it is
  transformed into Bhagavat Prasadam, which bestows love of Krishna
  upon all who experience it.  Even those who hear with faith about
  such a feast are elevated in Krishna Bhakti Yoga, or pure love for
  God, Who is know in countless traditions by countless names. 
  
  Recently, Krishna's Kindom of Dvaraka,
  has been discovered, off the west coast of India.
  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KkDMBhrAD4 )
  
  Once, in truth, in Dvarak, Krishnas
  city which recently has been discovered off beneath the sea .  India,
  there lived a holy brahmana who desired to have sons.  He had eight
  sons, but as soon as each was born, the infant died  In those times,
  the king was considered responsible for the safety of all of his
  citizens, and so the the brahmana took each of his dead infant sons
  and placed them before Maharaja Ugrasena, who did all within his
  power to rectify conditions within his kingdom so that such things
  would not occur again; just as in the modern day saintly kings engage
  their citizens in auspicious activities such as meditation upon the
  Supreme, yajna to the devatas, and other pure practices which promote
  the welfare of the individual and society at large.
  
  But try as he may, Maharaja Ugrasenda
  was unable to protect the sons of the brahmana, who therefore
  concluded that the king was lax in his duties to the Lord and the
  devatas but instead was enjoying his royal position only to gratify
  his senses and for the pleasure of his court. 
  
  Arjuna, who Krishna had instructed in
  the Bhagavad Gita, as we all well know, could not bear to hear these
  criticisms of the king, and he promised the aggrieved brahmana that
  he would protect the next child.  But the brahmana was so upset that
  he accused Arjuna of empty boasting, just as many leaders make
  promises to us which they are unable or unwilling to fulfill.  But
  Arjuna had good reason to believe that he could protect the child,
  for he had direct association with the devatas, such as Indra, the
  King of Heaven, who had given Arjuna his powerful and spiritually
  empowered bow, Gandiva.  Since Arjuna was a great warrior, and the
  son of Indra himself, he vowed that he would enter into fire if he
  could not protect the child.
  
  But the child died, and Arjuna, true to
  his word, prepared to sacrifice himself.  However, Shri Krishna, the
  friend of Arjuna, personally came and persuaded Arjuna not to give up
  his life.  “We shall go and find the child.” he assured him. 
  There are many yogis in this world who can travel into outer space,
  but Krishna, who always enjoys the company of His devotees, summoned
  His horses and chariot, and He and Arjuna traversed the universe in
  search of the child, who could not be found, even in the court of
  Yamaraja, the superintendent of death.  Krishna therefore decided to
  search beyond this universe, so he directed His chariot across the
  dense darkness which covers all the living beings in this world.
  
  Due to this darkness, we are thinking
  that this is just another story, whose truth is simply allegorical. 
  But Krishna evoked His Sudarshan Chakra by whose glowing effulgence
  the darkness was dissipated.  This disk of light is also a
  personality, and its name, Sudarshan, indicates that it provides good
  (su) audience or vision (darshan).  A power, big wheel indeed!
  
  Following Sudarshan, Krishna and Arjuna
  approached Lord Narayana, whose name indicates that he is the source
  of all naras, or personalities.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[doctordumbass]

Despite the feast being free, I am quite sure a case of severe indigestion 
would set in, within the first ten minutes or so. However, if I could hold out, 
my strongest interest would be in the etiquette observed, while both eating, 
and mentally flying. Which hand holds the salad fork, and are we still passing 
right to left? 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Count me in! RSVP, I enjoy my steak medium-well, and I'd like a seat in the 
  smoking section, please. Hare Hare Krishna Krishna!
 
 Oh geez, you're really back. It seems your small hiatus has not done you any 
 harm. You could expand on this, you know - what the Doc saw and ate and 
 learned at the inaugural opening of the Hare Krishna Center in FF. Share 
 might be sorry she is missing this as she is away so it could stand as your 
 report on the event for her and for us. If I were in FF I would be sure to be 
 there today - no lie.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Martin A Rosenthal rozenthalm@ 
  wrote:
  
   Dear Friends:
   
   Please honor us with your presence at
   today's kirtan, lecture, and feast at 105 S 3rd Street in
   Fairfield, Iowa, beginning at noon today, Saturday, May 11th. If you can 
   not come in body, then come in mind in spirit in your
   heart, simply by reading the adventure below.
   
   I have promised to deliver a lecture of
   flying in the Vaishnava (those who believe in Vishnu as supreme)
   tradition.  Here is one such example among many.  The lecture will
   begin at 12:30, after Hare Krishna kirtan, which will begin at 12 pm. At 
   1:00 we shall all enjoy a six course feast of food prepared for
   the pleasure of Krishna and offered to Him with loving devotion. 
   Once Krishna has enjoyed our offerings by His merciful glance, it is
   transformed into Bhagavat Prasadam, which bestows love of Krishna
   upon all who experience it.  Even those who hear with faith about
   such a feast are elevated in Krishna Bhakti Yoga, or pure love for
   God, Who is know in countless traditions by countless names. 
   
   Recently, Krishna's Kindom of Dvaraka,
   has been discovered, off the west coast of India.
   (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KkDMBhrAD4 )
   
   Once, in truth, in Dvarak, Krishnas
   city which recently has been discovered off beneath the sea .  India,
   there lived a holy brahmana who desired to have sons.  He had eight
   sons, but as soon as each was born, the infant died  In those times,
   the king was considered responsible for the safety of all of his
   citizens, and so the the brahmana took each of his dead infant sons
   and placed them before Maharaja Ugrasena, who did all within his
   power to rectify conditions within his kingdom so that such things
   would not occur again; just as in the modern day saintly kings engage
   their citizens in auspicious activities such as meditation upon the
   Supreme, yajna to the devatas, and other pure practices which promote
   the welfare of the individual and society at large.
   
   But try as he may, Maharaja Ugrasenda
   was unable to protect the sons of the brahmana, who therefore
   concluded that the king was lax in his duties to the Lord and the
   devatas but instead was enjoying his royal position only to gratify
   his senses and for the pleasure of his court. 
   
   Arjuna, who Krishna had instructed in
   the Bhagavad Gita, as we all well know, could not bear to hear these
   criticisms of the king, and he promised the aggrieved brahmana that
   he would protect the next child.  But the brahmana was so upset that
   he accused Arjuna of empty boasting, just as many leaders make
   promises to us which they are unable or unwilling to fulfill.  But
   Arjuna had good reason to believe that he could protect the child,
   for he had direct association with the devatas, such as Indra, the
   King of Heaven, who had given Arjuna his powerful and spiritually
   empowered bow, Gandiva.  Since Arjuna was a great warrior, and the
   son of Indra himself, he vowed that he would enter into fire if he
   could not protect the child.
   
   But the child died, and Arjuna, true to
   his word, prepared to sacrifice himself.  However, Shri Krishna, the
   friend of Arjuna, personally came and persuaded Arjuna not to give up
   his life.  “We shall go and find the child.” he assured him. 
   There are many yogis in this world who can travel into outer space,
   but Krishna, who always enjoys the company of His devotees, summoned
   His horses and chariot, and He and Arjuna traversed the universe in
   search of the child, who could not be found, even in the court of
   Yamaraja, the superintendent of death.  Krishna therefore decided to
   search beyond this universe, so he directed His chariot across the
   dense darkness which covers all the living beings in this world.
   
   Due to this darkness, we are thinking
   that 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote:

 If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.

Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Buck]

Dear Om Tat Sat;
It is a remarkable thing about this little town of Fairfield, Iowa that there 
is so much spirituality going on all the time.  'So much to do, so little 
time'.  And so many choices at any moment.  I would love to attend your kirtan 
and meal.  Except that I have an obligation to attend the May Fair today at the 
same time.  I may drop by your satsang afterwards for left-overs.  This is so 
Fairfield.
Welcome to the spiritual marketplace which is Fairfield.
It's a joy,
-Buck in the Dome 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Martin A Rosenthal rozenthalm@... wrote:

 Dear Friends:
 
 Please honor us with your presence at
 today's kirtan, lecture, and feast at 105 S 3rd Street in
 Fairfield, Iowa, beginning at noon today, Saturday, May 11th. If you can not 
 come in body, then come in mind in spirit in your
 heart, simply by reading the adventure below.
 
 I have promised to deliver a lecture of
 flying in the Vaishnava (those who believe in Vishnu as supreme)
 tradition.  Here is one such example among many.  The lecture will
 begin at 12:30, after Hare Krishna kirtan, which will begin at 12 pm. At 1:00 
 we shall all enjoy a six course feast of food prepared for
 the pleasure of Krishna and offered to Him with loving devotion. 
 Once Krishna has enjoyed our offerings by His merciful glance, it is
 transformed into Bhagavat Prasadam, which bestows love of Krishna
 upon all who experience it.  Even those who hear with faith about
 such a feast are elevated in Krishna Bhakti Yoga, or pure love for
 God, Who is know in countless traditions by countless names. 
 
 Recently, Krishna's Kindom of Dvaraka,
 has been discovered, off the west coast of India.
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KkDMBhrAD4 )
 
 Once, in truth, in Dvarak, Krishnas
 city which recently has been discovered off beneath the sea .  India,
 there lived a holy brahmana who desired to have sons.  He had eight
 sons, but as soon as each was born, the infant died  In those times,
 the king was considered responsible for the safety of all of his
 citizens, and so the the brahmana took each of his dead infant sons
 and placed them before Maharaja Ugrasena, who did all within his
 power to rectify conditions within his kingdom so that such things
 would not occur again; just as in the modern day saintly kings engage
 their citizens in auspicious activities such as meditation upon the
 Supreme, yajna to the devatas, and other pure practices which promote
 the welfare of the individual and society at large.
 
 But try as he may, Maharaja Ugrasenda
 was unable to protect the sons of the brahmana, who therefore
 concluded that the king was lax in his duties to the Lord and the
 devatas but instead was enjoying his royal position only to gratify
 his senses and for the pleasure of his court. 
 
 Arjuna, who Krishna had instructed in
 the Bhagavad Gita, as we all well know, could not bear to hear these
 criticisms of the king, and he promised the aggrieved brahmana that
 he would protect the next child.  But the brahmana was so upset that
 he accused Arjuna of empty boasting, just as many leaders make
 promises to us which they are unable or unwilling to fulfill.  But
 Arjuna had good reason to believe that he could protect the child,
 for he had direct association with the devatas, such as Indra, the
 King of Heaven, who had given Arjuna his powerful and spiritually
 empowered bow, Gandiva.  Since Arjuna was a great warrior, and the
 son of Indra himself, he vowed that he would enter into fire if he
 could not protect the child.
 
 But the child died, and Arjuna, true to
 his word, prepared to sacrifice himself.  However, Shri Krishna, the
 friend of Arjuna, personally came and persuaded Arjuna not to give up
 his life.  “We shall go and find the child.” he assured him. 
 There are many yogis in this world who can travel into outer space,
 but Krishna, who always enjoys the company of His devotees, summoned
 His horses and chariot, and He and Arjuna traversed the universe in
 search of the child, who could not be found, even in the court of
 Yamaraja, the superintendent of death.  Krishna therefore decided to
 search beyond this universe, so he directed His chariot across the
 dense darkness which covers all the living beings in this world.
 
 Due to this darkness, we are thinking
 that this is just another story, whose truth is simply allegorical. 
 But Krishna evoked His Sudarshan Chakra by whose glowing effulgence
 the darkness was dissipated.  This disk of light is also a
 personality, and its name, Sudarshan, indicates that it provides good
 (su) audience or vision (darshan).  A power, big wheel indeed!
 
 Following Sudarshan, Krishna and Arjuna
 approached Lord Narayana, whose name indicates that he is the source
 of all naras, or personalities.  Now, I shall quote directly from
 Shrimad Bhagavatam, available online at www.Vedabase.net. 
 SB
 10.89.58:
 [Lord Mahā-Viṣṇusaid:] I brought the brāhmaṇa's
 sons here because 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... 
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
 
  If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
 
 Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.


Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
  
   If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
  
  Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.
 
 
 Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?


Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, ditch 
the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... 
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ 
  wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
   
If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
   
   Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.
  
  
  Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?
 
 
 Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, ditch 
 the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.


Ketchup?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ 
  wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
   j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
   


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:

 If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.

Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.
   
   
   Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?
  
  
  Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, 
  ditch the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.
 
 
 Ketchup?

 
Not on steak. For steak, I prefer some sort of spicy, fresh salsa.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... 
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ 
  wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ 
   wrote:
   


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
 
  If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
 
 Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.


Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?
   
   
   Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, 
   ditch the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.
  
  
  Ketchup?
 
  
 Not on steak. For steak, I prefer some sort of spicy, fresh salsa.


I used to work in a steakhouse and they did one cooked in french
mustard and brown sugar. Surprisingly effective.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Michael Jackson]

Wait, won't you git in trouble with the Golden Dome Police if you go to a hare 
krishna deal?

I can understand why the TMO would object to Dome-goers attending Hare Krishna 
stuff, they don't want the TMO's life abnegating hindoo dogma to be replaced by 
the hary krshna's brand of life abnegating hindoo dogma.

Interesting story of Arjuna here - I once went on an Ananda retreat with that 
old fraud J. Donald Walters better known to his goggle-eyed followers as Swami 
Kryananda - in one meeting he told everyone that Yogananda  once told him that 
he (Yogananda) had been Arjuna in one of his previous lives. I took it with all 
the salt necessary, more than a grain.





 From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:25 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th
 


  
Dear Om Tat Sat;
It is a remarkable thing about this little town of Fairfield, Iowa that there 
is so much spirituality going on all the time.  'So much to do, so little 
time'.  And so many choices at any moment.  I would love to attend your kirtan 
and meal.  Except that I have an obligation to attend the May Fair today at the 
same time.  I may drop by your satsang afterwards for left-overs.  This is so 
Fairfield.
Welcome to the spiritual marketplace which is Fairfield.
It's a joy,
-Buck in the Dome 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Martin A Rosenthal rozenthalm@... wrote:

 Dear Friends:
 
 Please honor us with your presence at
 today's kirtan, lecture, and feast at 105 S 3rd Street in
 Fairfield, Iowa, beginning at noon today, Saturday, May 11th. If you can not 
 come in body, then come in mind in spirit in your
 heart, simply by reading the adventure below.
 
 I have promised to deliver a lecture of
 flying in the Vaishnava (those who believe in Vishnu as supreme)
 tradition.  Here is one such example among many.  The lecture will
 begin at 12:30, after Hare Krishna kirtan, which will begin at 12 pm. At 1:00 
 we shall all enjoy a six course feast of food prepared for
 the pleasure of Krishna and offered to Him with loving devotion. 
 Once Krishna has enjoyed our offerings by His merciful glance, it is
 transformed into Bhagavat Prasadam, which bestows love of Krishna
 upon all who experience it.  Even those who hear with faith about
 such a feast are elevated in Krishna Bhakti Yoga, or pure love for
 God, Who is know in countless traditions by countless names. 
 
 Recently, Krishna's Kindom of Dvaraka,
 has been discovered, off the west coast of India.
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KkDMBhrAD4 )
 
 Once, in truth, in Dvarak, Krishnas
 city which recently has been discovered off beneath the sea .  India,
 there lived a holy brahmana who desired to have sons.  He had eight
 sons, but as soon as each was born, the infant died  In those times,
 the king was considered responsible for the safety of all of his
 citizens, and so the the brahmana took each of his dead infant sons
 and placed them before Maharaja Ugrasena, who did all within his
 power to rectify conditions within his kingdom so that such things
 would not occur again; just as in the modern day saintly kings engage
 their citizens in auspicious activities such as meditation upon the
 Supreme, yajna to the devatas, and other pure practices which promote
 the welfare of the individual and society at large.
 
 But try as he may, Maharaja Ugrasenda
 was unable to protect the sons of the brahmana, who therefore
 concluded that the king was lax in his duties to the Lord and the
 devatas but instead was enjoying his royal position only to gratify
 his senses and for the pleasure of his court. 
 
 Arjuna, who Krishna had instructed in
 the Bhagavad Gita, as we all well know, could not bear to hear these
 criticisms of the king, and he promised the aggrieved brahmana that
 he would protect the next child.  But the brahmana was so upset that
 he accused Arjuna of empty boasting, just as many leaders make
 promises to us which they are unable or unwilling to fulfill.  But
 Arjuna had good reason to believe that he could protect the child,
 for he had direct association with the devatas, such as Indra, the
 King of Heaven, who had given Arjuna his powerful and spiritually
 empowered bow, Gandiva.  Since Arjuna was a great warrior, and the
 son of Indra himself, he vowed that he would enter into fire if he
 could not protect the child.
 
 But the child died, and Arjuna, true to
 his word, prepared to sacrifice himself.  However, Shri Krishna, the
 friend of Arjuna, personally came and persuaded Arjuna not to give up
 his life.  “We shall go and find the child.†he assured him. 
 There are many yogis in this world who can travel into outer space,
 but Krishna, who always enjoys the company of His devotees, summoned
 His horses and chariot, and He and Arjuna traversed the universe in
 search of the child, who could not be found, even in the court of
 Yamaraja

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 Count me in! RSVP, I enjoy my steak medium-well, and I'd like a seat in the 
 smoking section, please. Hare Hare Krishna Krishna!

And bring a bottle of Rum :-)


 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Martin A Rosenthal rozenthalm@ wrote:
 
  Dear Friends:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[Share Long]

Thank God, I just came from lunch with Mom, sister, niece in Annapolis on 
Carroll's Creek which flows into the Chesapeake Bay.  I got salmon and baby bok 
choy and mashed cauliflower to die for.  So carry on talking about food.  I am 
replete and all three doshas are humming along quite nicely (-:





 From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 1:18 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 Count me in! RSVP, I enjoy my steak medium-well, and I'd like a seat in the 
 smoking section, please. Hare Hare Krishna Krishna!

And bring a bottle of Rum :-)

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Martin A Rosenthal rozenthalm@ wrote:
 
  Dear Friends:


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[John]

Share,

The lunch sounds delicious.  I like salmon but haven't tried it with bok choy 
as of yet.

If you can get bok choy over there, you should try Chinese long beans, and mung 
beans for your food preparation.  They're good for health as well.

JR

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Thank God, I just came from lunch with Mom, sister, niece in Annapolis on 
 Carroll's Creek which flows into the Chesapeake Bay.  I got salmon and baby 
 bok choy and mashed cauliflower to die for.  So carry on talking about 
 food.  I am replete and all three doshas are humming along quite nicely (-:
 
 
 
 
 
  From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 1:18 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th
  
 
 
   
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Count me in! RSVP, I enjoy my steak medium-well, and I'd like a seat in the 
  smoking section, please. Hare Hare Krishna Krishna!
 
 And bring a bottle of Rum :-)
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Martin A Rosenthal rozenthalm@ 
  wrote:
  
   Dear Friends:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

[doctordumbass]

Yes, and for after dinner, a straight double shot of Don Julio 1942 Anejo 
Tequila, no lemon or salt, simply sipped. :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Count me in! RSVP, I enjoy my steak medium-well, and I'd like a seat in the 
  smoking section, please. Hare Hare Krishna Krishna!
 
 And bring a bottle of Rum :-)
 
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Martin A Rosenthal rozenthalm@ 
  wrote:
  
   Dear Friends: