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, Russian Transcendentalism.. ‘The highest wisdom and truth is like the purest dew, which we try to hold within us,’ said he. ‘Can I hold in an impure vessel that pure dew and judge of its purity? Only by the inner purification of myself can I bring that dew contained within me to some degree of purity. The highest wisdom is founded not on reason only, not on those wordly sciences, of physics, history, chemistry, etc., into which knowledge of the intellect is divided. The highest wisdom is one. The highest wisdom knows but one science; the science of the whole, the science that explains the whole creation and the place of man in it. To instill this science into one’s soul, it is needful to purify and renew one’s inner man, and so, before one can know, one must believe and be made perfect. And for the attainment of these aims there has been put into our souls the light of God, called the conscience.’ ‘Look with the spiritual eye into thy inner man, and ask of they self whether thou art content with thyself. What hast thou attained with the guidance of the intellect alone? What art thou? You are young, you are wealthy, you are cultured, sir. What have you made of all the blessings vouchsafed you? Are you satisfied with yourself and your life?’ ‘Thou hatest it; then change it, purify thyself, and as thou are purified thou wilt come to know wisdom. Look at your life, sir. How have you been spending it? In riotous orgies and debauchery, taking everything from society and giving nothing in return. You have received wealth. How have you used it? What have you done for your neighbour?’ -Tolstoy, War and Peace ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of Free Thinkers and Orthodoxy, An essay, About our Church Building in Fairfield, Iowa: Here's the history about our church which is technically called the "Church of the Holy Spirit Charitable Trust." We use the name Fellowship of the Holy Spirit because there are too many churches named "Church of the Holy Spirit." The building was built in 1913, and first served as a bridal and tack shop for horses and buggies. Like every building on the square, it is long and narrow. This allows more stores to have a storefront. The owners lived upstairs and the backspace was for inventory and workshops. Very sensible. I don't know all the stores or businesses that have used the building. My memory goes back to Simone's - a clothing store owned by Julia Marchand and Bill DeKramer. Simone was Julia's daughter. At some point Julan White, Bonnie's daughter, bought the building. (Yes, Bonnie is the unforgettable owner of 2nd Street Coffee). Julan loved the building and was remodeling it when unfortunately it burned. John Minor, a local contractor who had once gone to seminary school, bought the burned out building to keep it from being razed. He figured we didn't need another parking lot on the square like the empty space next to India Cafe - empty from another fire. I bought it from John to restore as a church building. I paid $50K for the building, and then watched in amazement when I put in another $250K at least to restore it. I've never regretted spending the money, even though the building is not at all worth $300K. For me it has become a gift to the community, giving me great satisfaction to see how so many people and groups are using it for the spiritual upliftment of our community and world. Our church history: I was the original "Ru" minister of the Unity Church in Fairfield for 12 years. We had a Unity-ordained minister for 2 or 3 years before that, but one day from the pulpit she said: "The Holy Spirit has told me I have to leave, and that you (pointing at me) are the next minister." I pulled in 3 other people to be ministers with me - including my decades' long friend Connie Huebner. After 12 years, the main Unity organization realized we had become a real church with a church building and money in the bank. They sent someone up and said we couldn't do this - we needed a real Unity minister. They sent a Unity minister up from Quincy who was a fine person but didn't have the depth of experience to inspire and teach a church full of sidhas. So we split off, and Unity church faded away. Connie started the Divine Mother church, and I started the Fellowship of the Holy Spirit. Joy Hirshberg became the president of the local synagogue (a good Shiksha president!) and Eleanor Fleming moved out of town. We struggled with finding a good location, so I eventually bought our current building. It had been burned out by a construction fire - one of Julan's construction workers was sneak-sleeping in the building and fell asleep with a cigaret. I was going to do a cheap Walmart's remodel, but I fell in love with the building and my business flooded me with money so I tried to do a beautiful remodel. Funnily enough, after 13 months of remodeling, I had a Jyotish reading that said:
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French Origins of American Transcendentalism French Transcendentalists.. https://www.jstor.org/stable/1414105?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents https://www.jstor.org/stable/1414105?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Freethinking Dear Col. Leed, Thanks for this appreciation. I particularly enjoy the link below to the published paper that is written as a 'tongue in cheek' orthodox indictment of free thinking (Lucretia Mott). The particular names of free thinkers given in its text are interesting to follow up on in context. These links could also go along with this exploration of Free Thinkers and Orthodoxy.. Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/438032 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/438032 Transcendentalist Fairfield https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/160262 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/160262 .. Reference. Importing Transcendentalism (German) to America HISTORICAL NOTE German ‘Free Thinkers’ Turnvereins, American Turner Movement Records, http://www.ulib.iupui.edu/collections/german-american/mss030 http://www.ulib.iupui.edu/collections/german-american/mss030 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought William Leed writes: THANKS Doug !!! WOW! a real post TO, save , Learned insightful & a joy to learn from & grow in SPIRIT from as well!! WOW! & for me & now many others! Again in great respect! THANKS!! .. Freethinking and Orthodoxy.. Fundamentalism.. “We have to remember that fundamentalism is . . . a reaction to the natural progress of society. And so when I see fundamentalism surge, I know that what is really happening is that the natural progress of society is surging. And fundamentalism is reacting to it. I choose to focus on the progress, not the reaction.” Reza Aslan A great ‘freethought’ listen, on your cell phone or computer.. Manley P. Hall, an interesting 20th Century mystic freethinker. A lifelong lecturer he gave a biographical lecture presentation on 17th Century William Penn’s free thought ‘Holy Experiment’. Penn’s freethinking venture became an early founding of constitutional government and subsequently the State of Pennsylvania. Manly P. Hall - William Penn, the Quaker, and His Holy Experiment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuRD0-tTbr8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuRD0-tTbr8 . . An Orthodox Indictment of L. Mott This gives very interesting insight. A fun read as written in a voice of 'tongue in cheek'. Reguler, The Orthodox indictment of spiritual regeneration movement: The case of L Mott. http://quakertheology.org/issue-10-mott-CEF-01.htm http://quakertheology.org/issue-10-mott-CEF-01.htm . . Whitman "Whitman believed in the Inner Light. In 1890, he told Horace Traubel, who recorded Whitman's conversations from 1888 until the poet's death, that he subscribed to Hicks's views of spirituality." Anecdotes about Elias Hicks by Walt Whitman November Boughs essay "Elias Hicks" 1888 https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Anecdotes_about_Elias_Hicks https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Anecdotes_about_Elias_Hicks Elias Hicks: He preached that people could experience salvation without the aid of ordained clergy. God dwells within every person, he explained, and reveals truths to each one by means of the Inner Light. Employing their free will, people could choose salvation by submitting to the will of God revealed to them, or they could choose sin by rejecting God's will to follow their "independent will" (Hicks 336). From 1779 through 1829, the Quaker minister journeyed more than forty thousand miles to locations primarily in the Northeast; but he also made trips to Virginia (1797, 1801, 1819, 1828), to the northern shore of Lake Ontario, Canada (1803, 1810), and to Richmond, Indiana (1828). https://whitmanarchive.org/criticism/current/encyclopedia/entry_192.html https://whitmanarchive.org/criticism/current/encyclopedia/entry_192.html .. .. “And this power flowed through him -- he became its agent -- whenever he put himself in a position to receive it. It had drawn him also to the Quakers of New Bedford, who were having a schism and revival in 1828. He visited them often, especially Mary Rotch. “What is this Inner Light?” he asked her. “It is not a thing to be talked about,” she replied. But he drew her out, and she said she had been driven inward, in these years of the Quaker Schism,” The Life of Emerson, Brooks. .. .. Creeds Creed..a set of beliefs or aims that guide som
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11 minute video…about Thomas Merton… https://emergencemagazine.org/ story/on-the-road-with-thomas- merton/ https://emergencemagazine.org/story/on-the-road-with-thomas-merton/ .. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Buber In Ten Minutes"I am Thou" This is fascinating, 20th Century.. https://youtu.be/16Cr82mLhkw https://youtu.be/16Cr82mLhkw .. Russian Transcendentalism.. ‘The highest wisdom and truth is like the purest dew, which we try to hold within us,’ said he. ‘Can I hold in an impure vessel that pure dew and judge of its purity? Only by the inner purification of myself can I bring that dew contained within me to some degree of purity. The highest wisdom is founded not on reason only, not on those wordly sciences, of physics, history, chemistry, etc., into which knowledge of the intellect is divided. The highest wisdom is one. The highest wisdom knows but one science; the science of the whole, the science that explains the whole creation and the place of man in it. To instill this science into one’s soul, it is needful to purify and renew one’s inner man, and so, before one can know, one must believe and be made perfect. And for the attainment of these aims there has been put into our souls the light of God, called the conscience.’ ‘Look with the spiritual eye into thy inner man, and ask of they self whether thou art content with thyself. What hast thou attained with the guidance of the intellect alone? What art thou? You are young, you are wealthy, you are cultured, sir. What have you made of all the blessings vouchsafed you? Are you satisfied with yourself and your life?’ ‘Thou hatest it; then change it, purify thyself, and as thou are purified thou wilt come to know wisdom. Look at your life, sir. How have you been spending it? In riotous orgies and debauchery, taking everything from society and giving nothing in return. You have received wealth. How have you used it? What have you done for your neighbour?’ -Tolstoy, War and Peace ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of Free Thinkers and Orthodoxy, An essay, About our Church Building in Fairfield, Iowa: Here's the history about our church which is technically called the "Church of the Holy Spirit Charitable Trust." We use the name Fellowship of the Holy Spirit because there are too many churches named "Church of the Holy Spirit." The building was built in 1913, and first served as a bridal and tack shop for horses and buggies. Like every building on the square, it is long and narrow. This allows more stores to have a storefront. The owners lived upstairs and the backspace was for inventory and workshops. Very sensible. I don't know all the stores or businesses that have used the building. My memory goes back to Simone's - a clothing store owned by Julia Marchand and Bill DeKramer. Simone was Julia's daughter. At some point Julan White, Bonnie's daughter, bought the building. (Yes, Bonnie is the unforgettable owner of 2nd Street Coffee). Julan loved the building and was remodeling it when unfortunately it burned. John Minor, a local contractor who had once gone to seminary school, bought the burned out building to keep it from being razed. He figured we didn't need another parking lot on the square like the empty space next to India Cafe - empty from another fire. I bought it from John to restore as a church building. I paid $50K for the building, and then watched in amazement when I put in another $250K at least to restore it. I've never regretted spending the money, even though the building is not at all worth $300K. For me it has become a gift to the community, giving me great satisfaction to see how so many people and groups are using it for the spiritual upliftment of our community and world. Our church history: I was the original "Ru" minister of the Unity Church in Fairfield for 12 years. We had a Unity-ordained minister for 2 or 3 years before that, but one day from the pulpit she said: "The Holy Spirit has told me I have to leave, and that you (pointing at me) are the next minister." I pulled in 3 other people to be ministers with me - including my decades' long friend Connie Huebner. After 12 years, the main Unity organization realized we had become a real church with a church building and money in the bank. They sent someone up and said we couldn't do this - we needed a real Unity minister. They sent a Unity minister up from Quincy who was a fine person but didn't have the depth of experience to inspire and teach a church full of sidhas. So we split off, and Unity church faded away. Connie started the Divine Mother church, and I started the Fellowship of the Holy Spirit. Joy Hirshberg became the president of the local synagogue (a good Shiksha president!) and Eleanor Fleming moved out of town. We struggled with finding a good location, so I eventually bought our current building. It had been
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Buber In Ten Minutes"I am Thou" This is fascinating, 20th Century.. https://youtu.be/16Cr82mLhkw https://youtu.be/16Cr82mLhkw .. Russian Transcendentalism.. ‘The highest wisdom and truth is like the purest dew, which we try to hold within us,’ said he. ‘Can I hold in an impure vessel that pure dew and judge of its purity? Only by the inner purification of myself can I bring that dew contained within me to some degree of purity. The highest wisdom is founded not on reason only, not on those wordly sciences, of physics, history, chemistry, etc., into which knowledge of the intellect is divided. The highest wisdom is one. The highest wisdom knows but one science; the science of the whole, the science that explains the whole creation and the place of man in it. To instill this science into one’s soul, it is needful to purify and renew one’s inner man, and so, before one can know, one must believe and be made perfect. And for the attainment of these aims there has been put into our souls the light of God, called the conscience.’ ‘Look with the spiritual eye into thy inner man, and ask of they self whether thou art content with thyself. What hast thou attained with the guidance of the intellect alone? What art thou? You are young, you are wealthy, you are cultured, sir. What have you made of all the blessings vouchsafed you? Are you satisfied with yourself and your life?’ ‘Thou hatest it; then change it, purify thyself, and as thou are purified thou wilt come to know wisdom. Look at your life, sir. How have you been spending it? In riotous orgies and debauchery, taking everything from society and giving nothing in return. You have received wealth. How have you used it? What have you done for your neighbour?’ -Tolstoy, War and Peace ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of Free Thinkers and Orthodoxy, An essay, About our Church Building in Fairfield, Iowa: Here's the history about our church which is technically called the "Church of the Holy Spirit Charitable Trust." We use the name Fellowship of the Holy Spirit because there are too many churches named "Church of the Holy Spirit." The building was built in 1913, and first served as a bridal and tack shop for horses and buggies. Like every building on the square, it is long and narrow. This allows more stores to have a storefront. The owners lived upstairs and the backspace was for inventory and workshops. Very sensible. I don't know all the stores or businesses that have used the building. My memory goes back to Simone's - a clothing store owned by Julia Marchand and Bill DeKramer. Simone was Julia's daughter. At some point Julan White, Bonnie's daughter, bought the building. (Yes, Bonnie is the unforgettable owner of 2nd Street Coffee). Julan loved the building and was remodeling it when unfortunately it burned. John Minor, a local contractor who had once gone to seminary school, bought the burned out building to keep it from being razed. He figured we didn't need another parking lot on the square like the empty space next to India Cafe - empty from another fire. I bought it from John to restore as a church building. I paid $50K for the building, and then watched in amazement when I put in another $250K at least to restore it. I've never regretted spending the money, even though the building is not at all worth $300K. For me it has become a gift to the community, giving me great satisfaction to see how so many people and groups are using it for the spiritual upliftment of our community and world. Our church history: I was the original "Ru" minister of the Unity Church in Fairfield for 12 years. We had a Unity-ordained minister for 2 or 3 years before that, but one day from the pulpit she said: "The Holy Spirit has told me I have to leave, and that you (pointing at me) are the next minister." I pulled in 3 other people to be ministers with me - including my decades' long friend Connie Huebner. After 12 years, the main Unity organization realized we had become a real church with a church building and money in the bank. They sent someone up and said we couldn't do this - we needed a real Unity minister. They sent a Unity minister up from Quincy who was a fine person but didn't have the depth of experience to inspire and teach a church full of sidhas. So we split off, and Unity church faded away. Connie started the Divine Mother church, and I started the Fellowship of the Holy Spirit. Joy Hirshberg became the president of the local synagogue (a good Shiksha president!) and Eleanor Fleming moved out of town. We struggled with finding a good location, so I eventually bought our current building. It had been burned out by a construction fire - one of Julan's construction workers was sneak-sleeping in the building and fell asleep with a cigaret. I was going to do a cheap Walmart's remodel, but I fell in love with the building and my business
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To everyone, MMY may have understood that human beings are co-creators of the multiverse, which is infinite in the past and the future. Being or the unified field, as understood by science, may be using human consciousness to "collapse the wave function of the multiverse. If not, the multiverse will not manifest materially and cannot be found, which is needed to prove that the multiverse exist. If not, the wave function remains as an idea in the minds of scientists in this sector of the multiverse. To address this point, Leonard Susskind and his colleagues presented a lecture about the creation of the multiverse. He stated that a universe can nucleate at any time in DeSitter space, meaning anywhere in spacetime. But he suggested that a "god" may be needed to witness this event. In other words, a consciousness is needed to "collapse the wave function of this multiverse. He suggested that any of the gods in the Roman gods pantheon can function for this event. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Russian Transcendentalism.. ‘The highest wisdom and truth is like the purest dew, which we try to hold within us,’ said he. ‘Can I hold in an impure vessel that pure dew and judge of its purity? Only by the inner purification of myself can I bring that dew contained within me to some degree of purity. The highest wisdom is founded not on reason only, not on those wordly sciences, of physics, history, chemistry, etc., into which knowledge of the intellect is divided. The highest wisdom is one. The highest wisdom knows but one science; the science of the whole, the science that explains the whole creation and the place of man in it. To instill this science into one’s soul, it is needful to purify and renew one’s inner man, and so, before one can know, one must believe and be made perfect. And for the attainment of these aims there has been put into our souls the light of God, called the conscience.’ ‘Look with the spiritual eye into thy inner man, and ask of they self whether thou art content with thyself. What hast thou attained with the guidance of the intellect alone? What art thou? You are young, you are wealthy, you are cultured, sir. What have you made of all the blessings vouchsafed you? Are you satisfied with yourself and your life?’ ‘Thou hatest it; then change it, purify thyself, and as thou are purified thou wilt come to know wisdom. Look at your life, sir. How have you been spending it? In riotous orgies and debauchery, taking everything from society and giving nothing in return. You have received wealth. How have you used it? What have you done for your neighbour?’ -Tolstoy, War and Peace ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of Free Thinkers and Orthodoxy, An essay, About our Church Building in Fairfield, Iowa: Here's the history about our church which is technically called the "Church of the Holy Spirit Charitable Trust." We use the name Fellowship of the Holy Spirit because there are too many churches named "Church of the Holy Spirit." The building was built in 1913, and first served as a bridal and tack shop for horses and buggies. Like every building on the square, it is long and narrow. This allows more stores to have a storefront. The owners lived upstairs and the backspace was for inventory and workshops. Very sensible. I don't know all the stores or businesses that have used the building. My memory goes back to Simone's - a clothing store owned by Julia Marchand and Bill DeKramer. Simone was Julia's daughter. At some point Julan White, Bonnie's daughter, bought the building. (Yes, Bonnie is the unforgettable owner of 2nd Street Coffee). Julan loved the building and was remodeling it when unfortunately it burned. John Minor, a local contractor who had once gone to seminary school, bought the burned out building to keep it from being razed. He figured we didn't need another parking lot on the square like the empty space next to India Cafe - empty from another fire. I bought it from John to restore as a church building. I paid $50K for the building, and then watched in amazement when I put in another $250K at least to restore it. I've never regretted spending the money, even though the building is not at all worth $300K. For me it has become a gift to the community, giving me great satisfaction to see how so many people and groups are using it for the spiritual upliftment of our community and world. Our church history: I was the original "Ru" minister of the Unity Church in Fairfield for 12 years. We had a Unity-ordained minister for 2 or 3 years before that, but one day from the pulpit she said: "The Holy Spirit has told me I have to leave, and that you (pointing at me) are the next minister." I pulled in 3 other people to be ministers with me - including my decades' long friend Connie Huebner. After 12 years, the main Unity organization realized we
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Russian Transcendentalism.. ‘The highest wisdom and truth is like the purest dew, which we try to hold within us,’ said he. ‘Can I hold in an impure vessel that pure dew and judge of its purity? Only by the inner purification of myself can I bring that dew contained within me to some degree of purity. The highest wisdom is founded not on reason only, not on those wordly sciences, of physics, history, chemistry, etc., into which knowledge of the intellect is divided. The highest wisdom is one. The highest wisdom knows but one science; the science of the whole, the science that explains the whole creation and the place of man in it. To instill this science into one’s soul, it is needful to purify and renew one’s inner man, and so, before one can know, one must believe and be made perfect. And for the attainment of these aims there has been put into our souls the light of God, called the conscience.’ ‘Look with the spiritual eye into thy inner man, and ask of they self whether thou art content with thyself. What hast thou attained with the guidance of the intellect alone? What art thou? You are young, you are wealthy, you are cultured, sir. What have you made of all the blessings vouchsafed you? Are you satisfied with yourself and your life?’ ‘Thou hatest it; then change it, purify thyself, and as thou are purified thou wilt come to know wisdom. Look at your life, sir. How have you been spending it? In riotous orgies and debauchery, taking everything from society and giving nothing in return. You have received wealth. How have you used it? What have you done for your neighbour?’ -Tolstoy, War and Peace ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of Free Thinkers and Orthodoxy, An essay, About our Church Building in Fairfield, Iowa: Here's the history about our church which is technically called the "Church of the Holy Spirit Charitable Trust." We use the name Fellowship of the Holy Spirit because there are too many churches named "Church of the Holy Spirit." The building was built in 1913, and first served as a bridal and tack shop for horses and buggies. Like every building on the square, it is long and narrow. This allows more stores to have a storefront. The owners lived upstairs and the backspace was for inventory and workshops. Very sensible. I don't know all the stores or businesses that have used the building. My memory goes back to Simone's - a clothing store owned by Julia Marchand and Bill DeKramer. Simone was Julia's daughter. At some point Julan White, Bonnie's daughter, bought the building. (Yes, Bonnie is the unforgettable owner of 2nd Street Coffee). Julan loved the building and was remodeling it when unfortunately it burned. John Minor, a local contractor who had once gone to seminary school, bought the burned out building to keep it from being razed. He figured we didn't need another parking lot on the square like the empty space next to India Cafe - empty from another fire. I bought it from John to restore as a church building. I paid $50K for the building, and then watched in amazement when I put in another $250K at least to restore it. I've never regretted spending the money, even though the building is not at all worth $300K. For me it has become a gift to the community, giving me great satisfaction to see how so many people and groups are using it for the spiritual upliftment of our community and world. Our church history: I was the original "Ru" minister of the Unity Church in Fairfield for 12 years. We had a Unity-ordained minister for 2 or 3 years before that, but one day from the pulpit she said: "The Holy Spirit has told me I have to leave, and that you (pointing at me) are the next minister." I pulled in 3 other people to be ministers with me - including my decades' long friend Connie Huebner. After 12 years, the main Unity organization realized we had become a real church with a church building and money in the bank. They sent someone up and said we couldn't do this - we needed a real Unity minister. They sent a Unity minister up from Quincy who was a fine person but didn't have the depth of experience to inspire and teach a church full of sidhas. So we split off, and Unity church faded away. Connie started the Divine Mother church, and I started the Fellowship of the Holy Spirit. Joy Hirshberg became the president of the local synagogue (a good Shiksha president!) and Eleanor Fleming moved out of town. We struggled with finding a good location, so I eventually bought our current building. It had been burned out by a construction fire - one of Julan's construction workers was sneak-sleeping in the building and fell asleep with a cigaret. I was going to do a cheap Walmart's remodel, but I fell in love with the building and my business flooded me with money so I tried to do a beautiful remodel. Funnily enough, after 13 months of remodeling, I had a Jyotish reading that said:
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A great narrative in Freethinking. Any of us who had up and moved to Fairfield, Iowa to be part of this high minded superradiant experiment could be called free thinking. But here is a stand out with some others for some kind of an award given as The Free Thought and Orthodoxy Meritorious Award by example. Earning something like a Maharishi Award or one of those badges that were given out in OZ, like for Courage was one of those. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Freethinking and Orthodoxy.. Of Free Thinkers and Orthodoxy, An essay, About our Church Building in Fairfield, Iowa: Here's the history about our church which is technically called the "Church of the Holy Spirit Charitable Trust." We use the name Fellowship of the Holy Spirit because there are too many churches named "Church of the Holy Spirit." The building was built in 1913, and first served as a bridal and tack shop for horses and buggies. Like every building on the square, it is long and narrow. This allows more stores to have a storefront. The owners lived upstairs and the backspace was for inventory and workshops. Very sensible. I don't know all the stores or businesses that have used the building. My memory goes back to Simone's - a clothing store owned by Julia Marchand and Bill DeKramer. Simone was Julia's daughter. At some point Julan White, Bonnie's daughter, bought the building. (Yes, Bonnie is the unforgettable owner of 2nd Street Coffee). Julan loved the building and was remodeling it when unfortunately it burned. John Minor, a local contractor who had once gone to seminary school, bought the burned out building to keep it from being razed. He figured we didn't need another parking lot on the square like the empty space next to India Cafe - empty from another fire. I bought it from John to restore as a church building. I paid $50K for the building, and then watched in amazement when I put in another $250K at least to restore it. I've never regretted spending the money, even though the building is not at all worth $300K. For me it has become a gift to the community, giving me great satisfaction to see how so many people and groups are using it for the spiritual upliftment of our community and world. Our church history: I was the original "Ru" minister of the Unity Church in Fairfield for 12 years. We had a Unity-ordained minister for 2 or 3 years before that, but one day from the pulpit she said: "The Holy Spirit has told me I have to leave, and that you (pointing at me) are the next minister." I pulled in 3 other people to be ministers with me - including my decades' long friend Connie Huebner. After 12 years, the main Unity organization realized we had become a real church with a church building and money in the bank. They sent someone up and said we couldn't do this - we needed a real Unity minister. They sent a Unity minister up from Quincy who was a fine person but didn't have the depth of experience to inspire and teach a church full of sidhas. So we split off, and Unity church faded away. Connie started the Divine Mother church, and I started the Fellowship of the Holy Spirit. Joy Hirshberg became the president of the local synagogue (a good Shiksha president!) and Eleanor Fleming moved out of town. We struggled with finding a good location, so I eventually bought our current building. It had been burned out by a construction fire - one of Julan's construction workers was sneak-sleeping in the building and fell asleep with a cigaret. I was going to do a cheap Walmart's remodel, but I fell in love with the building and my business flooded me with money so I tried to do a beautiful remodel. Funnily enough, after 13 months of remodeling, I had a Jyotish reading that said: "for the past 13 months you have had temple building karma." Way cool, right? The Fellowship of the Holy Spirit was active there for 6 years, and then I took a sabbatical to get my masters degree in Vedic Science. It was so nice not writing a sermon every Saturday night that I never came back to preaching actively, and changed the nature of the church to an Inner Sanctum. Connie's church is actually a charter of our church which helps maintain our legal status with the IRS. And she doesn't have to worry about paperwork while having a 501(c)(3) status. She is a treasured trustee of our church, so if I'm not around you can check with her if there is an issue with the building. If there are other groups who could use the umbrella of a 501(c)(3), Connie and I would be happy to consider allowing them to become a charter of our church. As you know, I built an inner sanctum where the focus of my meditations and singing is to heal the wounds in the Heart of America. In 2013 my heart opened up and I could feel the national pain from the wounds in the Heart of America. It was too great for me to handle, so I shut it off. But I realized I was given the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Freethinking
Freethinking and Orthodoxy.. Of Free Thinkers and Orthodoxy, An essay, About our Church Building in Fairfield, Iowa: Here's the history about our church which is technically called the "Church of the Holy Spirit Charitable Trust." We use the name Fellowship of the Holy Spirit because there are too many churches named "Church of the Holy Spirit." The building was built in 1913, and first served as a bridal and tack shop for horses and buggies. Like every building on the square, it is long and narrow. This allows more stores to have a storefront. The owners lived upstairs and the backspace was for inventory and workshops. Very sensible. I don't know all the stores or businesses that have used the building. My memory goes back to Simone's - a clothing store owned by Julia Marchand and Bill DeKramer. Simone was Julia's daughter. At some point Julan White, Bonnie's daughter, bought the building. (Yes, Bonnie is the unforgettable owner of 2nd Street Coffee). Julan loved the building and was remodeling it when unfortunately it burned. John Minor, a local contractor who had once gone to seminary school, bought the burned out building to keep it from being razed. He figured we didn't need another parking lot on the square like the empty space next to India Cafe - empty from another fire. I bought it from John to restore as a church building. I paid $50K for the building, and then watched in amazement when I put in another $250K at least to restore it. I've never regretted spending the money, even though the building is not at all worth $300K. For me it has become a gift to the community, giving me great satisfaction to see how so many people and groups are using it for the spiritual upliftment of our community and world. Our church history: I was the original "Ru" minister of the Unity Church in Fairfield for 12 years. We had a Unity-ordained minister for 2 or 3 years before that, but one day from the pulpit she said: "The Holy Spirit has told me I have to leave, and that you (pointing at me) are the next minister." I pulled in 3 other people to be ministers with me - including my decades' long friend Connie Huebner. After 12 years, the main Unity organization realized we had become a real church with a church building and money in the bank. They sent someone up and said we couldn't do this - we needed a real Unity minister. They sent a Unity minister up from Quincy who was a fine person but didn't have the depth of experience to inspire and teach a church full of sidhas. So we split off, and Unity church faded away. Connie started the Divine Mother church, and I started the Fellowship of the Holy Spirit. Joy Hirshberg became the president of the local synagogue (a good Shiksha president!) and Eleanor Fleming moved out of town. We struggled with finding a good location, so I eventually bought our current building. It had been burned out by a construction fire - one of Julan's construction workers was sneak-sleeping in the building and fell asleep with a cigaret. I was going to do a cheap Walmart's remodel, but I fell in love with the building and my business flooded me with money so I tried to do a beautiful remodel. Funnily enough, after 13 months of remodeling, I had a Jyotish reading that said: "for the past 13 months you have had temple building karma." Way cool, right? The Fellowship of the Holy Spirit was active there for 6 years, and then I took a sabbatical to get my masters degree in Vedic Science. It was so nice not writing a sermon every Saturday night that I never came back to preaching actively, and changed the nature of the church to an Inner Sanctum. Connie's church is actually a charter of our church which helps maintain our legal status with the IRS. And she doesn't have to worry about paperwork while having a 501(c)(3) status. She is a treasured trustee of our church, so if I'm not around you can check with her if there is an issue with the building. If there are other groups who could use the umbrella of a 501(c)(3), Connie and I would be happy to consider allowing them to become a charter of our church. As you know, I built an inner sanctum where the focus of my meditations and singing is to heal the wounds in the Heart of America. In 2013 my heart opened up and I could feel the national pain from the wounds in the Heart of America. It was too great for me to handle, so I shut it off. But I realized I was given the experience as an invitation to start the process of healing these wounds for the sake of the country that I love so much. My heart's guidance for this next year is to start an online group that will join me in using the 5 Elements to heal these wounds in the heart of America. Just fyi, I had a very clear vision of seeing the 4 chambers of the heart relating to Earth Water, Fire, and Air; the pericardial sac surrounding the heart relates to Akasha, the element of Space. As
Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: Freethinking MY thanks Doug H> 4 sending this 2 me Bill Leed, & now Via me 2 share with others in our spiritual circles well as other becoming so!
-Original Message-
From: William Leed
To: dhamiltony2k5 ; doughanfam
Sent: Sat, Jan 26, 2019 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Freethinking MY thanks Doug H> 4 sending this
2 me Bill Leed, & now Via me 2 share with others in our spiritual circles well
as other becoming so!
This post as well as the former ones U posted on FF Life & thus to me is of
great value for us traveling the path. It has give me & others many incites to
the past leaders in there growth & now ours. our paths.Your words Doug, are
always so kind & up lifting to me & many others I am sure as well, THANKS Doug
I am soon going to Dr. Raju's Ayurveda Institute in Hyderabad India where many
of our FF. IA friends enjoy PK there $92.00 a day all inclusive. My health is
excellent at almost now 79 Yrs. & I desire to keep so. I am sure you know of
the PK place but desired you to know it again if you may need such, David..I
will be there 1 March & return to Buffalo NY 12 April 19
In the late spring or summer certainly by the fall semester at MUM I desire to
bring 3 new mediators to experience a longer visitors weekend there or any
week time there so they can enjoy the spirit present there. This would be at
time I will let them MUM.
I will visit off campus my more liberal TM & sidha friends who may not be
presently dome certified but will NOT expose my new friends to any negative
rift too well seen in FF. They may discover same 4 them selves. David you & Ur
wife will being top of my list my treat 4 a lunch or dinner as well as, David
Hawthorn & some other you have with me in friendship.
I also look forward to experience the vibes of the church!
Again THANKS 4 your may posts & the up lifting benefits you have give to
Fairfield Life!
-Original Message-
From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
To: FairfieldLife
Sent: Fri, Jan 25, 2019 9:16 pm
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Freethinking
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Of Free Thinkers and Orthodoxy, An essay, About our Church Building in
Fairfield, Iowa:
Here's the history about our church which is technically called the "Church of
the Holy Spirit Charitable Trust." We use the name Fellowship of the Holy
Spirit because there are too many churches named "Church of the Holy Spirit."
The building was built in 1913, and first served as a bridal and tack shop for
horses and buggies. Like every building on the square, it is long and narrow.
This allows more stores to have a storefront. The owners lived upstairs and
the backspace was for inventory and workshops. Very sensible. I don't know all
the stores or businesses that have used the building. My memory goes back to
Simone's - a clothing store owned by Julia Marchand and Bill DeKramer. Simone
was Julia's daughter. At some point Julan White, Bonnie's daughter, bought the
building. (Yes, Bonnie is the unforgettable owner of 2nd Street Coffee).
Julan loved the building and was remodeling it when unfortunately it burned..
John Minor, a local contractor who had once gone to seminary school, bought the
burned out building to keep it from being razed. He figured we didn't nee
[FairfieldLife] Re: Freethinking
Of Free Thinkers and Orthodoxy, An essay, About our Church Building in Fairfield, Iowa: Here's the history about our church which is technically called the "Church of the Holy Spirit Charitable Trust." We use the name Fellowship of the Holy Spirit because there are too many churches named "Church of the Holy Spirit." The building was built in 1913, and first served as a bridal and tack shop for horses and buggies. Like every building on the square, it is long and narrow. This allows more stores to have a storefront. The owners lived upstairs and the backspace was for inventory and workshops. Very sensible. I don't know all the stores or businesses that have used the building. My memory goes back to Simone's - a clothing store owned by Julia Marchand and Bill DeKramer. Simone was Julia's daughter. At some point Julan White, Bonnie's daughter, bought the building. (Yes, Bonnie is the unforgettable owner of 2nd Street Coffee). Julan loved the building and was remodeling it when unfortunately it burned. John Minor, a local contractor who had once gone to seminary school, bought the burned out building to keep it from being razed. He figured we didn't need another parking lot on the square like the empty space next to India Cafe - empty from another fire. I bought it from John to restore as a church building. I paid $50K for the building, and then watched in amazement when I put in another $250K at least to restore it. I've never regretted spending the money, even though the building is not at all worth $300K. For me it has become a gift to the community, giving me great satisfaction to see how so many people and groups are using it for the spiritual upliftment of our community and world. Our church history: I was the original "Ru" minister of the Unity Church in Fairfield for 12 years. We had a Unity-ordained minister for 2 or 3 years before that, but one day from the pulpit she said: "The Holy Spirit has told me I have to leave, and that you (pointing at me) are the next minister." I pulled in 3 other people to be ministers with me - including my decades' long friend Connie Huebner. After 12 years, the main Unity organization realized we had become a real church with a church building and money in the bank. They sent someone up and said we couldn't do this - we needed a real Unity minister. They sent a Unity minister up from Quincy who was a fine person but didn't have the depth of experience to inspire and teach a church full of sidhas. So we split off, and Unity church faded away. Connie started the Divine Mother church, and I started the Fellowship of the Holy Spirit. Joy Hirshberg became the president of the local synagogue (a good Shiksha president!) and Eleanor Fleming moved out of town. We struggled with finding a good location, so I eventually bought our current building. It had been burned out by a construction fire - one of Julan's construction workers was sneak-sleeping in the building and fell asleep with a cigaret. I was going to do a cheap Walmart's remodel, but I fell in love with the building and my business flooded me with money so I tried to do a beautiful remodel. Funnily enough, after 13 months of remodeling, I had a Jyotish reading that said: "for the past 13 months you have had temple building karma." Way cool, right? The Fellowship of the Holy Spirit was active there for 6 years, and then I took a sabbatical to get my masters degree in Vedic Science. It was so nice not writing a sermon every Saturday night that I never came back to preaching actively, and changed the nature of the church to an Inner Sanctum. Connie's church is actually a charter of our church which helps maintain our legal status with the IRS. And she doesn't have to worry about paperwork while having a 501(c)(3) status. She is a treasured trustee of our church, so if I'm not around you can check with her if there is an issue with the building. If there are other groups who could use the umbrella of a 501(c)(3), Connie and I would be happy to consider allowing them to become a charter of our church. As you know, I built an inner sanctum where the focus of my meditations and singing is to heal the wounds in the Heart of America. In 2013 my heart opened up and I could feel the national pain from the wounds in the Heart of America. It was too great for me to handle, so I shut it off. But I realized I was given the experience as an invitation to start the process of healing these wounds for the sake of the country that I love so much. My heart's guidance for this next year is to start an online group that will join me in using the 5 Elements to heal these wounds in the heart of America. Just fyi, I had a very clear vision of seeing the 4 chambers of the heart relating to Earth Water, Fire, and Air; the pericardial sac surrounding the heart relates to Akasha, the element of Space. As we heal the wounds of our individual
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Freethinking again Doug 4 well reintroducing to my Society of Friends heritage! Thanks
Its most appreciated! I also note U & Ur efforts have brought Ff Life to a
higher plain in conversations with far less rancor than in Yrs past. Its well a
continuing learning experience not just 4 me as I have expressed but made 4 a
deeper & better understanding of much. It has also well enriched my TM
experience as well & I have often shared thought read here by U & others who
are not currently living in hte FF area. I visit the dome usually ever other
year & enjoy the enrichment from the MUM faculty classes I have been allowed to
attend 4 a few days or 2 or 3. I I rejoice in my having been so fortunate to
have visited U & Ur excellent wife at hte farm.Again in respect my thanks &
that of others who have read & learned from Ur knowledge shared often here.I
am, saving this post as well 4 many re reads & to better soak in this knowledge
& learn from it to help my & others inner lights.
Next time to FF IA I desire to have one of my wards a TM mediator now 21 Yrs
but an old soul meet Ur light & that of Ur wife as well, Doug again as
expressed by many friends thus, OUR, Thanks in respect.
-Original Message-
From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
To: FairfieldLife
Sent: Tue, Jan 1, 2019 4:48 pm
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Freethinking
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Dear Col. Leed, Thanks for this appreciation.I particularly enjoy the link
below to the published paper that is written as a 'tongue in cheek' orthodox
indictment of free thinking. The particular names of free thinkers given in its
text are interesting to follow up on in context.
These links could also go along with this exploration of Free Thinkers and
Orthodoxy..
Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/438032
Transcendentalist Fairfield
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/160262
Reference.Importing Transcendentalism (German) to America HISTORICAL NOTE
German ‘Free Thinkers’Turnvereins, American Turner Movement
Records,http://www.ulib.iupui.edu/collections/german-american/mss030
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turners
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought
William Leed writes:THANKS Doug !!! WOW! a real post TO, save , Learned
insightful & a joy to learn from & grow in SPIRIT from as well!! WOW! & for me
& now many others!
Again in great respect! THANKS!!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Freethinking and Orthodoxy..
Fundamentalism..
“We have to remember that fundamentalism is . . . a reaction to the natural
progress of society. And so when I see fundamentalism surge, I know that what
is really happening is that the natural progress of society is surging. And
fundamentalism is reacting to it. I choose to focus on the progress, not the
reaction.” Reza Aslan
A great ‘freethought’ listen, on your cell phone or computer.. Manley P. Hall,
an interesting 20th Century mystic freethinker. A lifelong lecturer he gave a
biographical lecture presentation on 17th Century William Penn’s fre
[FairfieldLife] Re: Freethinking
Dear Col. Leed, Thanks for this appreciation. I particularly enjoy the link below to the published paper that is written as a 'tongue in cheek' orthodox indictment of free thinking. The particular names of free thinkers given in its text are interesting to follow up on in context. These links could also go along with this exploration of Free Thinkers and Orthodoxy.. Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/438032 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/438032 Transcendentalist Fairfield https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/160262 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/160262 Reference. Importing Transcendentalism (German) to America HISTORICAL NOTE German ‘Free Thinkers’ Turnvereins, American Turner Movement Records, http://www.ulib.iupui.edu/collections/german-american/mss030 http://www.ulib.iupui.edu/collections/german-american/mss030 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought William Leed writes: THANKS Doug !!! WOW! a real post TO, save , Learned insightful & a joy to learn from & grow in SPIRIT from as well!! WOW! & for me & now many others! Again in great respect! THANKS!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Freethinking and Orthodoxy.. Fundamentalism.. “We have to remember that fundamentalism is . . . a reaction to the natural progress of society. And so when I see fundamentalism surge, I know that what is really happening is that the natural progress of society is surging. And fundamentalism is reacting to it. I choose to focus on the progress, not the reaction.” Reza Aslan A great ‘freethought’ listen, on your cell phone or computer.. Manley P. Hall, an interesting 20th Century mystic freethinker. A lifelong lecturer he gave a biographical lecture presentation on 17th Century William Penn’s free thought ‘Holy Experiment’. Penn’s freethinking venture became an early founding of constitutional government and subsequently the State of Pennsylvania. Manly P. Hall - William Penn, the Quaker, and His Holy Experiment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuRD0-tTbr8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuRD0-tTbr8 . . An Orthodox Indictment of L. Mott This gives very interesting insight. A fun read as written in a voice of 'tongue in cheek'. Reguler, The Orthodox indictment of spiritual regeneration movement: The case of L Mott. http://quakertheology.org/issue-10-mott-CEF-01.htm http://quakertheology.org/issue-10-mott-CEF-01.htm . . Whitman "Whitman believed in the Inner Light. In 1890, he told Horace Traubel, who recorded Whitman's conversations from 1888 until the poet's death, that he subscribed to Hicks's views of spirituality." Anecdotes about Elias Hicks by Walt Whitman November Boughs essay "Elias Hicks" 1888 https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Anecdotes_about_Elias_Hicks https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Anecdotes_about_Elias_Hicks Elias Hicks: He preached that people could experience salvation without the aid of ordained clergy. God dwells within every person, he explained, and reveals truths to each one by means of the Inner Light. Employing their free will, people could choose salvation by submitting to the will of God revealed to them, or they could choose sin by rejecting God's will to follow their "independent will" (Hicks 336). From 1779 through 1829, the Quaker minister journeyed more than forty thousand miles to locations primarily in the Northeast; but he also made trips to Virginia (1797, 1801, 1819, 1828), to the northern shore of Lake Ontario, Canada (1803, 1810), and to Richmond, Indiana (1828). https://whitmanarchive.org/criticism/current/encyclopedia/entry_192.html https://whitmanarchive.org/criticism/current/encyclopedia/entry_192.html .. .. “And this power flowed through him -- he became its agent -- whenever he put himself in a position to receive it. It had drawn him also to the Quakers of New Bedford, who were having a schism and revival in 1828. He visited them often, especially Mary Rotch. “What is this Inner Light?” he asked her. “It is not a thing to be talked about,” she replied. But he drew her out, and she said she had been driven inward, in these years of the Quaker Schism,” The Life of Emerson, Brooks. .. .. Creeds Creed..a set of beliefs or aims that guide someone's actions, a brief authoritative formula of religious belief. a creed is a set of beliefs, principles, or opinions that strongly influence the way people live or work creed is a religion. any system, doctrine, or formula of religious belief, as of a denomination. any system or codification of belief or of
[FairfieldLife] Re: Freethinking
Freethinking and orthodoxy.. Fundamentalism.. “We have to remember that fundamentalism is . . . a reaction to the natural progress of society. And so when I see fundamentalism surge, I know that what is really happening is that the natural progress of society is surging. And fundamentalism is reacting to it. I choose to focus on the progress, not the reaction.” Reza Aslan A great ‘freethought’ listen, on your cell phone or computer.. Manley P. Hall, an interesting 20th Century mystic freethinker. A lifelong lecturer he gave a biographical lecture presentation on 17th Century William Penn’s free thought ‘Holy Experiment’. Penn’s freethinking venture became an early founding of constitutional government and subsequently the State of Pennsylvania. Manly P. Hall - William Penn, the Quaker, and His Holy Experiment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuRD0-tTbr8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuRD0-tTbr8 . . Whitman "Whitman believed in the Inner Light. In 1890, he told Horace Traubel, who recorded Whitman's conversations from 1888 until the poet's death, that he subscribed to Hicks's views of spirituality." Anecdotes about Elias Hicks by Walt Whitman November Boughs essay "Elias Hicks" 1888 https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Anecdotes_about_Elias_Hicks https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Anecdotes_about_Elias_Hicks Elias Hicks: He preached that people could experience salvation without the aid of ordained clergy. God dwells within every person, he explained, and reveals truths to each one by means of the Inner Light. Employing their free will, people could choose salvation by submitting to the will of God revealed to them, or they could choose sin by rejecting God's will to follow their "independent will" (Hicks 336). From 1779 through 1829, the Quaker minister journeyed more than forty thousand miles to locations primarily in the Northeast; but he also made trips to Virginia (1797, 1801, 1819, 1828), to the northern shore of Lake Ontario, Canada (1803, 1810), and to Richmond, Indiana (1828). https://whitmanarchive.org/criticism/current/encyclopedia/entry_192.html https://whitmanarchive.org/criticism/current/encyclopedia/entry_192.html An Orthodox Indictment of L. Mott This gives very interesting insight. A fun read as written in a voice of 'tongue in cheek'. Reguler, The Orthodox indictment of spiritual regeneration movement: The case of L Mott. http://quakertheology.org/issue-10-mott-CEF-01.htm http://quakertheology.org/issue-10-mott-CEF-01.htm .. .. “And this power flowed through him -- he became its agent -- whenever he put himself in a position to receive it. It had drawn him also to the Quakers of New Bedford, who were having a schism and revival in 1828. He visited them often, especially Mary Rotch. “What is this Inner Light?” he asked her. “It is not a thing to be talked about,” she replied. But he drew her out, and she said she had been driven inward, in these years of the Quaker Schism,” The Life of Emerson, Brooks. .. .. Creeds Creed..a set of beliefs or aims that guide someone's actions, a brief authoritative formula of religious belief. a creed is a set of beliefs, principles, or opinions that strongly influence the way people live or work creed is a religion. any system, doctrine, or formula of religious belief, as of a denomination. any system or codification of belief or of opinion. an authoritative, formulated statement of the chief articles of belief, as the Apostles' Creed, the Nicene Creed, or the Athanasian Creed. . . / “In the 18th and 19th century, many thinkers regarded as freethinkers were deists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deists, arguing that the nature of God https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_nature_of_God_in_Western_theology=edit=1 can only be known from a study of nature rather than from religious ‘revelation’. In the 18th century, "deism" was as much of a 'dirty word' as "atheism", and deists were often stigmatized as either atheists or at least as freethinkers by their Christian opponents.[13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought#cite_note-13[14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought#cite_note-14 Deists today regard themselves as freethinkers, but are now arguably less prominent in the freethought movement than atheists.” . . W. E. Channing, in Channing’s sequence of time in the coming on of Emerson and others, bringing a closure to Puritanism in New England.. “The divine attributes,” Channing writes, “are first developed in ourselves and hence transferred to our Creator. The idea of God, sublime and awful as it is, is the idea of our own spiritual nature, purified and enlarged to infinity.” “When Channing whistled, if his friends had only known it, that was the end of Calvinism for Boston.” The Life of Emerson, Brooks. . . Freethought is the philosophy that man rules his own destiny, rejecting the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Freethinking thanks $ THIS EXCELLENT POST! Doug my friend Its given me greater respect 4 my Quaker,Mennonite PA heritage & Wm. Penn
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Freethinking and orthodoxy..
A great ‘freethought’ listen, on your cell phone or computer.. Manley P. Hall,
an interesting 20th Century mystic freethinker. A lifelong lecturer he gave a
biographical lecture presentation on 17th Century William Penn’s free thought
‘Holy Experiment’. Penn’s freethinking venture became an early founding of
constitutional government and subsequently the State of Pennsylvania.
Manly P. Hall - William Penn, the Quaker, and His Holy Experiment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuRD0-tTbr8
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Freethinking and orthodoxy..
Whitman
"Whitman believed in the Inner Light. In 1890, he told Horace Traubel, who
recorded Whitman's conversations from 1888 until the poet's death, that he
subscribed to Hicks's views of spirituality."
Anecdotes about Elias Hicks (1888) by Walt Whitman November Boughs essay
"Elias Hicks" (1888)https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Anecdotes_about_Elias_Hicks
Elias Hicks:
He preached that people could experience salvation without the aid of ordained
clergy. God dwells within every person, he explained, and reveals truths to
each one by means of the Inner Light. Employing their free will, people could
choose salvation by submitting to the will of God revealed to them, or they
could choose sin by rejecting God's will to follow their "independent will"
(Hicks 336).
>From 1779 through 1829, the Quaker minister journeyed more than forty thousand
>miles to locations primarily in the Northeast; but he also made trips to
>Virginia (1797, 1801, 1819, 1828), to the northern shore of Lake Ontario,
>Canada (1803, 1810), and to Richmond, Indiana (1828).
>https://whitmanarchive.org/criticism/current/encyclopedia/entry_192.html
An Orthodox Indictment of L. Mott
Reguler, The Orthodox indictment of spiritual regeneration movement: The case
of L Mott.
http://quakertheology.org/issue-10-mott-CEF-01.htm
... ..
“And this power flowed through him -- he became its agent -- whenever he put
himself in a position to receive it. It had drawn him also to the Quakers of
New Bedford, who were having a schism and revival in 1828. He visited them
often, especially Mary Rotch. “What is this Inner Light?” he asked her. “It is
not a thing to be talked about,” she replied. But he drew her out, and she said
she had been driven inward, in these years of the Quaker Schism,” The Life of
Emerson, Brooks.
... ..
Creeds
Creed..a set of beliefs or aims that guide someone's actions,a brief
authoritative formula of religious belief.a creed is a set of beliefs,
principles, or opinions that strongly influence the way people live or work
creed is a religion.
any system, doctrine, or f
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Freethinking and orthodoxy.. A great ‘freethought’ listen, on your cell phone or computer.. Manley P. Hall, an interesting 20th Century mystic freethinker. A lifelong lecturer he gave a biographical lecture presentation on 17th Century William Penn’s free thought ‘Holy Experiment’. Penn’s freethinking venture became an early founding of constitutional government and subsequently the State of Pennsylvania. Manly P. Hall - William Penn, the Quaker, and His Holy Experiment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuRD0-tTbr8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuRD0-tTbr8 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Freethinking and orthodoxy.. Whitman "Whitman believed in the Inner Light. In 1890, he told Horace Traubel, who recorded Whitman's conversations from 1888 until the poet's death, that he subscribed to Hicks's views of spirituality." Anecdotes about Elias Hicks (1888) by Walt Whitman November Boughs essay "Elias Hicks" (1888)https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Anecdotes_about_Elias_Hicks https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Anecdotes_about_Elias_Hicks Elias Hicks: He preached that people could experience salvation without the aid of ordained clergy. God dwells within every person, he explained, and reveals truths to each one by means of the Inner Light. Employing their free will, people could choose salvation by submitting to the will of God revealed to them, or they could choose sin by rejecting God's will to follow their "independent will" (Hicks 336). From 1779 through 1829, the Quaker minister journeyed more than forty thousand miles to locations primarily in the Northeast; but he also made trips to Virginia (1797, 1801, 1819, 1828), to the northern shore of Lake Ontario, Canada (1803, 1810), and to Richmond, Indiana (1828). https://whitmanarchive.org/criticism/current/encyclopedia/entry_192.html https://whitmanarchive.org/criticism/current/encyclopedia/entry_192.html An Orthodox Indictment of L. Mott Reguler, The Orthodox indictment of spiritual regeneration movement: The case of L Mott. http://quakertheology.org/issue-10-mott-CEF-01.htm http://quakertheology.org/issue-10-mott-CEF-01.htm .. .. “And this power flowed through him -- he became its agent -- whenever he put himself in a position to receive it. It had drawn him also to the Quakers of New Bedford, who were having a schism and revival in 1828. He visited them often, especially Mary Rotch. “What is this Inner Light?” he asked her. “It is not a thing to be talked about,” she replied. But he drew her out, and she said she had been driven inward, in these years of the Quaker Schism,” The Life of Emerson, Brooks. .. .. Creeds Creed..a set of beliefs or aims that guide someone's actions, a brief authoritative formula of religious belief. a creed is a set of beliefs, principles, or opinions that strongly influence the way people live or work creed is a religion. any system, doctrine, or formula of religious belief, as of a denomination. any system or codification of belief or of opinion. an authoritative, formulated statement of the chief articles of belief, as the Apostles' Creed, the Nicene Creed, or the Athanasian Creed. . . / “In the 18th and 19th century, many thinkers regarded as freethinkers were deists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deists, arguing that the nature of God https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_nature_of_God_in_Western_theology=edit=1 can only be known from a study of nature rather than from religious ‘revelation’. In the 18th century, "deism" was as much of a 'dirty word' as "atheism", and deists were often stigmatized as either atheists or at least as freethinkers by their Christian opponents.[13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought#cite_note-13[14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought#cite_note-14 Deists today regard themselves as freethinkers, but are now arguably less prominent in the freethought movement than atheists.” . . W. E. Channing, in Channing’s sequence of time in the coming on of Emerson and others, bringing a closure to Puritanism in New England.. “The divine attributes,” Channing writes, “are first developed in ourselves and hence transferred to our Creator. The idea of God, sublime and awful as it is, is the idea of our own spiritual nature, purified and enlarged to infinity.” “When Channing whistled, if his friends had only known it, that was the end of Calvinism for Boston.” The Life of Emerson, Brooks. . . Freethought is the philosophy that man rules his own destiny, rejecting the notion that there is any kind of divine intervention in life. Belief centers on the idea that nature and Natural Law guide mankind and that the use of reason, epistemology, and science are the means by which life is validated. Freethought came to Wisconsin with the massive influx of German immigrants in the 1850s, particularly those known as
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Freethinking and orthodoxy.. Whitman "Whitman believed in the Inner Light. In 1890, he told Horace Traubel, who recorded Whitman's conversations from 1888 until the poet's death, that he subscribed to Hicks's views of spirituality." Anecdotes about Elias Hicks (1888) by Walt Whitman November Boughs essay "Elias Hicks" (1888)https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Anecdotes_about_Elias_Hicks https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Anecdotes_about_Elias_Hicks Elias Hicks: He preached that people could experience salvation without the aid of ordained clergy. God dwells within every person, he explained, and reveals truths to each one by means of the Inner Light. Employing their free will, people could choose salvation by submitting to the will of God revealed to them, or they could choose sin by rejecting God's will to follow their "independent will" (Hicks 336). From 1779 through 1829, the Quaker minister journeyed more than forty thousand miles to locations primarily in the Northeast; but he also made trips to Virginia (1797, 1801, 1819, 1828), to the northern shore of Lake Ontario, Canada (1803, 1810), and to Richmond, Indiana (1828). https://whitmanarchive.org/criticism/current/encyclopedia/entry_192.html https://whitmanarchive.org/criticism/current/encyclopedia/entry_192.html An Orthodox Indictment of L. Mott Reguler, The Orthodox indictment of spiritual regeneration movement: The case of L Mott. http://quakertheology.org/issue-10-mott-CEF-01.htm http://quakertheology.org/issue-10-mott-CEF-01.htm .. .. “And this power flowed through him -- he became its agent -- whenever he put himself in a position to receive it. It had drawn him also to the Quakers of New Bedford, who were having a schism and revival in 1828. He visited them often, especially Mary Rotch. “What is this Inner Light?” he asked her. “It is not a thing to be talked about,” she replied. But he drew her out, and she said she had been driven inward, in these years of the Quaker Schism,” The Life of Emerson, Brooks. .. .. Creeds Creed..a set of beliefs or aims that guide someone's actions, a brief authoritative formula of religious belief. a creed is a set of beliefs, principles, or opinions that strongly influence the way people live or work creed is a religion. any system, doctrine, or formula of religious belief, as of a denomination. any system or codification of belief or of opinion. an authoritative, formulated statement of the chief articles of belief, as the Apostles' Creed, the Nicene Creed, or the Athanasian Creed. . . / “In the 18th and 19th century, many thinkers regarded as freethinkers were deists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deists, arguing that the nature of God https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_nature_of_God_in_Western_theology=edit=1 can only be known from a study of nature rather than from religious ‘revelation’. In the 18th century, "deism" was as much of a 'dirty word' as "atheism", and deists were often stigmatized as either atheists or at least as freethinkers by their Christian opponents.[13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought#cite_note-13[14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought#cite_note-14 Deists today regard themselves as freethinkers, but are now arguably less prominent in the freethought movement than atheists.” . . W. E. Channing, in Channing’s sequence of time in the coming on of Emerson and others, bringing a closure to Puritanism in New England.. “The divine attributes,” Channing writes, “are first developed in ourselves and hence transferred to our Creator. The idea of God, sublime and awful as it is, is the idea of our own spiritual nature, purified and enlarged to infinity.” “When Channing whistled, if his friends had only known it, that was the end of Calvinism for Boston.” The Life of Emerson, Brooks. . . Freethought is the philosophy that man rules his own destiny, rejecting the notion that there is any kind of divine intervention in life. Belief centers on the idea that nature and Natural Law guide mankind and that the use of reason, epistemology, and science are the means by which life is validated. Freethought came to Wisconsin with the massive influx of German immigrants in the 1850s, particularly those known as "Forty-eighters" who had fled autocratic German states after the failed revolts of 1848. https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 1850’s.. Freethinkers refused to accept political absolutism and the authority of a church, religion, or its supposedly inspired scripture. They insisted on the freedom to form religious opinions on the basis of intellectual reasoning powers and not on blind, unquestioned faith. Freethinking became fashionable in the German state of Prussia during the reign of Frederick the Great, who ruled from 1740-53, within a period known
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Freethinking and orthodoxy.. Anecdotes about Elias Hicks (1888) by Walt Whitman https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Anecdotes_about_Elias_Hicks https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Anecdotes_about_Elias_Hicks Whitman and Elias Hicks https://whitmanarchive.org/criticism/current/encyclopedia/entry_192.html https://whitmanarchive.org/criticism/current/encyclopedia/entry_192.html November Boughs essay "Elias Hicks" (1888) An Orthodox Indictment of L. Mott Reguler, The Orthodox indictment of spiritual regeneration movement: The case of L Mott. http://quakertheology.org/issue-10-mott-CEF-01.htm http://quakertheology.org/issue-10-mott-CEF-01.htm .. .. “And this power flowed through him -- he became its agent -- whenever he put himself in a position to receive it. It had drawn him also to the Quakers of New Bedford, who were having a schism and revival in 1828. He visited them often, especially Mary Rotch. “What is this Inner Light?” he asked her. “It is not a thing to be talked about,” she replied. But he drew her out, and she said she had been driven inward, in these years of the Quaker Schism,” The Life of Emerson, Brooks. .. .. Creeds Creed..a set of beliefs or aims that guide someone's actions, a brief authoritative formula of religious belief. a creed is a set of beliefs, principles, or opinions that strongly influence the way people live or work creed is a religion. any system, doctrine, or formula of religious belief, as of a denomination. any system or codification of belief or of opinion. an authoritative, formulated statement of the chief articles of belief, as the Apostles' Creed, the Nicene Creed, or the Athanasian Creed. . . / “In the 18th and 19th century, many thinkers regarded as freethinkers were deists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deists, arguing that the nature of God https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_nature_of_God_in_Western_theology=edit=1 can only be known from a study of nature rather than from religious ‘revelation’. In the 18th century, "deism" was as much of a 'dirty word' as "atheism", and deists were often stigmatized as either atheists or at least as freethinkers by their Christian opponents.[13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought#cite_note-13[14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought#cite_note-14 Deists today regard themselves as freethinkers, but are now arguably less prominent in the freethought movement than atheists.” . . W. E. Channing, in Channing’s sequence of time in the coming on of Emerson and others, bringing a closure to Puritanism in New England.. “The divine attributes,” Channing writes, “are first developed in ourselves and hence transferred to our Creator. The idea of God, sublime and awful as it is, is the idea of our own spiritual nature, purified and enlarged to infinity.” “When Channing whistled, if his friends had only known it, that was the end of Calvinism for Boston.” The Life of Emerson, Brooks. . . Freethought is the philosophy that man rules his own destiny, rejecting the notion that there is any kind of divine intervention in life. Belief centers on the idea that nature and Natural Law guide mankind and that the use of reason, epistemology, and science are the means by which life is validated. Freethought came to Wisconsin with the massive influx of German immigrants in the 1850s, particularly those known as "Forty-eighters" who had fled autocratic German states after the failed revolts of 1848. https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 1850’s.. Freethinkers refused to accept political absolutism and the authority of a church, religion, or its supposedly inspired scripture. They insisted on the freedom to form religious opinions on the basis of intellectual reasoning powers and not on blind, unquestioned faith. Freethinking became fashionable in the German state of Prussia during the reign of Frederick the Great, who ruled from 1740-53, within a period known as the "Age of Reason." "Freethinkers" Of the Early Texas.. https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/1998/april98/scharf.html https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/1998/april98/scharf.html Freethought, Vs. the true believer.. true believer. noun. One who is deeply, sometimes fanatically devoted to a cause, organization, or person: “a band of true believers bonded together against all those who did not agree with them” ( Theodore Draper ) : a person who professes absolute belief in something : a zealous supporter of a particular cause ..true believers who fought the good fight even when it was out of fashion. ..it's impossible to argue with those true believers, as they think any counterevidence, is proof of an evil conspiracy. True-believers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer . . “On the other hand, according to Bertrand Russell, atheists and/or agnostics are
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An Orthodox Indictment of L. Mott Reguler, The Orthodox indictment of spiritual regeneration movement: The case of L Mott. http://quakertheology.org/issue-10-mott-CEF-01.htm http://quakertheology.org/issue-10-mott-CEF-01.htm .. .. “And this power flowed through him -- he became its agent -- whenever he put himself in a position to receive it. It had drawn him also to the Quakers of New Bedford, who were having a schism and revival in 1828. He visited them often, especially Mary Rotch. “What is this Inner Light?” he asked her. “It is not a thing to be talked about,” she replied. But he drew her out, and she said she had been driven inward, in these years of the Quaker Schism,” The Life of Emerson, Brooks. .. .. Creeds Creed..a set of beliefs or aims that guide someone's actions, a brief authoritative formula of religious belief. a creed is a set of beliefs, principles, or opinions that strongly influence the way people live or work creed is a religion. any system, doctrine, or formula of religious belief, as of a denomination. any system or codification of belief or of opinion. an authoritative, formulated statement of the chief articles of belief, as the Apostles' Creed, the Nicene Creed, or the Athanasian Creed. . . / “In the 18th and 19th century, many thinkers regarded as freethinkers were deists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deists, arguing that the nature of God https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_nature_of_God_in_Western_theology=edit=1 can only be known from a study of nature rather than from religious ‘revelation’. In the 18th century, "deism" was as much of a 'dirty word' as "atheism", and deists were often stigmatized as either atheists or at least as freethinkers by their Christian opponents.[13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought#cite_note-13[14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought#cite_note-14 Deists today regard themselves as freethinkers, but are now arguably less prominent in the freethought movement than atheists.” . . W. E. Channing, in Channing’s sequence of time in the coming on of Emerson and others, bringing a closure to Puritanism in New England.. “The divine attributes,” Channing writes, “are first developed in ourselves and hence transferred to our Creator. The idea of God, sublime and awful as it is, is the idea of our own spiritual nature, purified and enlarged to infinity.” “When Channing whistled, if his friends had only known it, that was the end of Calvinism for Boston.” The Life of Emerson, Brooks. . . Freethought is the philosophy that man rules his own destiny, rejecting the notion that there is any kind of divine intervention in life. Belief centers on the idea that nature and Natural Law guide mankind and that the use of reason, epistemology, and science are the means by which life is validated. Freethought came to Wisconsin with the massive influx of German immigrants in the 1850s, particularly those known as "Forty-eighters" who had fled autocratic German states after the failed revolts of 1848. https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 1850’s.. Freethinkers refused to accept political absolutism and the authority of a church, religion, or its supposedly inspired scripture. They insisted on the freedom to form religious opinions on the basis of intellectual reasoning powers and not on blind, unquestioned faith. Freethinking became fashionable in the German state of Prussia during the reign of Frederick the Great, who ruled from 1740-53, within a period known as the "Age of Reason." "Freethinkers" Of the Early Texas.. https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/1998/april98/scharf.html https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/1998/april98/scharf.html Freethought, Vs. the true believer.. true believer. noun. One who is deeply, sometimes fanatically devoted to a cause, organization, or person: “a band of true believers bonded together against all those who did not agree with them” ( Theodore Draper ) : a person who professes absolute belief in something : a zealous supporter of a particular cause ..true believers who fought the good fight even when it was out of fashion. ..it's impossible to argue with those true believers, as they think any counterevidence, is proof of an evil conspiracy. True-believers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer . . “On the other hand, according to Bertrand Russell, atheists and/or agnostics are not necessarily freethinkers. As an example, he mentions Stalin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin, whom he compares to a "pope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope": what I am concerned with is the doctrine of the modern Communistic Party, and of the Russian Government to which it owes allegiance. According to this doctrine, the world develops on the lines of a Plan called Dialectical Materialism
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“And this power flowed through him -- he became its agent -- whenever he put himself in a position to receive it. It had drawn him also to the Quakers of New Bedford, who were having a schism and revival in 1828. He visited them often, especially Mary Rotch. “What is this Inner Light?” he asked her. “It is not a thing to be talked about,” she replied. But he drew her out, and she said she had been driven inward, in these years of the Quaker Schism,” The Life of Emerson, Brooks. From 437998 File - FFL Acronyms.. “TB”- True Believer (in TM doctrines) TNB - True Non-Believer” Creeds Creed..a set of beliefs or aims that guide someone's actions, a brief authoritative formula of religious belief. a creed is a set of beliefs, principles, or opinions that strongly influence the way people live or work creed is a religion. any system, doctrine, or formula of religious belief, as of a denomination. any system or codification of belief or of opinion. an authoritative, formulated statement of the chief articles of belief, as the Apostles' Creed, the Nicene Creed, or the Athanasian Creed. . . / “In the 18th and 19th century, many thinkers regarded as freethinkers were deists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deists, arguing that the nature of God https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_nature_of_God_in_Western_theology=edit=1 can only be known from a study of nature rather than from religious ‘revelation’. In the 18th century, "deism" was as much of a 'dirty word' as "atheism", and deists were often stigmatized as either atheists or at least as freethinkers by their Christian opponents.[13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought#cite_note-13[14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought#cite_note-14 Deists today regard themselves as freethinkers, but are now arguably less prominent in the freethought movement than atheists.” . . W. E. Channing, in Channing’s sequence of time in the coming on of Emerson and others, bringing a closure to Puritanism in New England.. “The divine attributes,” Channing writes, “are first developed in ourselves and hence transferred to our Creator. The idea of God, sublime and awful as it is, is the idea of our own spiritual nature, purified and enlarged to infinity.” “When Channing whistled, if his friends had only known it, that was the end of Calvinism for Boston.” The Life of Emerson, Brooks. . . Freethought is the philosophy that man rules his own destiny, rejecting the notion that there is any kind of divine intervention in life. Belief centers on the idea that nature and Natural Law guide mankind and that the use of reason, epistemology, and science are the means by which life is validated. Freethought came to Wisconsin with the massive influx of German immigrants in the 1850s, particularly those known as "Forty-eighters" who had fled autocratic German states after the failed revolts of 1848. https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 1850’s.. Freethinkers refused to accept political absolutism and the authority of a church, religion, or its supposedly inspired scripture. They insisted on the freedom to form religious opinions on the basis of intellectual reasoning powers and not on blind, unquestioned faith. Freethinking became fashionable in the German state of Prussia during the reign of Frederick the Great, who ruled from 1740-53, within a period known as the "Age of Reason." "Freethinkers" Of the Early Texas.. https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/1998/april98/scharf.html https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/1998/april98/scharf.html Freethought, Vs. the true believer.. true believer. noun. One who is deeply, sometimes fanatically devoted to a cause, organization, or person: “a band of true believers bonded together against all those who did not agree with them” ( Theodore Draper ) : a person who professes absolute belief in something : a zealous supporter of a particular cause ..true believers who fought the good fight even when it was out of fashion. ..it's impossible to argue with those true believers, as they think any counterevidence, is proof of an evil conspiracy. True-believers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer . . “On the other hand, according to Bertrand Russell, atheists and/or agnostics are not necessarily freethinkers. As an example, he mentions Stalin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin, whom he compares to a "pope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope": what I am concerned with is the doctrine of the modern Communistic Party, and of the Russian Government to which it owes allegiance. According to this doctrine, the world develops on the lines of a Plan called Dialectical Materialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_Materialism, first discovered by Karl Marx https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx, embodied in the practice of a great state by
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Creeds Creed..a set of beliefs or aims that guide someone's actions, a brief authoritative formula of religious belief. a creed is a set of beliefs, principles, or opinions that strongly influence the way people live or work creed is a religion. any system, doctrine, or formula of religious belief, as of a denomination. any system or codification of belief or of opinion. an authoritative, formulated statement of the chief articles of belief, as the Apostles' Creed, the Nicene Creed, or the Athanasian Creed. . . / “In the 18th and 19th century, many thinkers regarded as freethinkers were deists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deists, arguing that the nature of God https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_nature_of_God_in_Western_theology=edit=1 can only be known from a study of nature rather than from religious ‘revelation’. In the 18th century, "deism" was as much of a 'dirty word' as "atheism", and deists were often stigmatized as either atheists or at least as freethinkers by their Christian opponents.[13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought#cite_note-13[14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought#cite_note-14 Deists today regard themselves as freethinkers, but are now arguably less prominent in the freethought movement than atheists.” . . W. E. Channing, in Channing’s sequence of time in the coming on of Emerson and others, bringing a closure to Puritanism in New England.. “The divine attributes,” Channing writes, “are first developed in ourselves and hence transferred to our Creator. The idea of God, sublime and awful as it is, is the idea of our own spiritual nature, purified and enlarged to infinity.” “When Channing whistled, if his friends had only known it, that was the end of Calvinism for Boston.” The Life of Emerson, Brooks. . . Freethought is the philosophy that man rules his own destiny, rejecting the notion that there is any kind of divine intervention in life. Belief centers on the idea that nature and Natural Law guide mankind and that the use of reason, epistemology, and science are the means by which life is validated. Freethought came to Wisconsin with the massive influx of German immigrants in the 1850s, particularly those known as "Forty-eighters" who had fled autocratic German states after the failed revolts of 1848. https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 1850’s.. Freethinkers refused to accept political absolutism and the authority of a church, religion, or its supposedly inspired scripture. They insisted on the freedom to form religious opinions on the basis of intellectual reasoning powers and not on blind, unquestioned faith. Freethinking became fashionable in the German state of Prussia during the reign of Frederick the Great, who ruled from 1740-53, within a period known as the "Age of Reason." "Freethinkers" Of the Early Texas.. https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/1998/april98/scharf.html https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/1998/april98/scharf.html Freethought, Vs. the true believer.. true believer. noun. One who is deeply, sometimes fanatically devoted to a cause, organization, or person: “a band of true believers bonded together against all those who did not agree with them” ( Theodore Draper ) : a person who professes absolute belief in something : a zealous supporter of a particular cause ..true believers who fought the good fight even when it was out of fashion. ..it's impossible to argue with those true believers, as they think any counterevidence, is proof of an evil conspiracy. True-believers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer . . “On the other hand, according to Bertrand Russell, atheists and/or agnostics are not necessarily freethinkers. As an example, he mentions Stalin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin, whom he compares to a "pope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope": what I am concerned with is the doctrine of the modern Communistic Party, and of the Russian Government to which it owes allegiance. According to this doctrine, the world develops on the lines of a Plan called Dialectical Materialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_Materialism, first discovered by Karl Marx https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx, embodied in the practice of a great state by Lenin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin, and now expounded from day to day by a Church of which Stalin is the Pope. […] Free discussion is to be prevented wherever the power to do so exists; […] If this doctrine and this organization prevail, free inquiry will become as impossible as it was in the middle ages, and the world will relapse into bigotry and obscurantism.” — Bertrand Russell, The Value of Free Thought. How to Become a Truth-Seeker and Break the Chains of Mental Slavery The “kidnapped” monument to German freethinkers in the Texas hill country
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“In the 18th and 19th century, many thinkers regarded as freethinkers were deists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deists, arguing that the nature of God https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_nature_of_God_in_Western_theology=edit=1 can only be known from a study of nature rather than from religious ‘revelation’. In the 18th century, "deism" was as much of a 'dirty word' as "atheism", and deists were often stigmatized as either atheists or at least as freethinkers by their Christian opponents.[13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought#cite_note-13[14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought#cite_note-14 Deists today regard themselves as freethinkers, but are now arguably less prominent in the freethought movement than atheists.” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : W. E. Channing, in Channing’s sequence of time in the coming on of Emerson and others, bringing a closure to Puritanism in New England.. “The divine attributes,” Channing writes, “are first developed in ourselves and hence transferred to our Creator. The idea of God, sublime and awful as it is, is the idea of our own spiritual nature, purified and enlarged to infinity.” “When Channing whistled, if his friends had only known it, that was the end of Calvinism for Boston.” The Life of Emerson, Brooks. . . Freethought is the philosophy that man rules his own destiny, rejecting the notion that there is any kind of divine intervention in life. Belief centers on the idea that nature and Natural Law guide mankind and that the use of reason, epistemology, and science are the means by which life is validated. Freethought came to Wisconsin with the massive influx of German immigrants in the 1850s, particularly those known as "Forty-eighters" who had fled autocratic German states after the failed revolts of 1848. https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 1850’s.. Freethinkers refused to accept political absolutism and the authority of a church, religion, or its supposedly inspired scripture. They insisted on the freedom to form religious opinions on the basis of intellectual reasoning powers and not on blind, unquestioned faith. Freethinking became fashionable in the German state of Prussia during the reign of Frederick the Great, who ruled from 1740-53, within a period known as the "Age of Reason." "Freethinkers" Of the Early Texas.. https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/1998/april98/scharf.html https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/1998/april98/scharf.html Freethought, Vs. the true believer.. true believer. noun. One who is deeply, sometimes fanatically devoted to a cause, organization, or person: “a band of true believers bonded together against all those who did not agree with them” ( Theodore Draper ) : a person who professes absolute belief in something : a zealous supporter of a particular cause ..true believers who fought the good fight even when it was out of fashion. ..it's impossible to argue with those true believers, as they think any counterevidence, is proof of an evil conspiracy. True-believers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer . . “On the other hand, according to Bertrand Russell, atheists and/or agnostics are not necessarily freethinkers. As an example, he mentions Stalin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin, whom he compares to a "pope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope": what I am concerned with is the doctrine of the modern Communistic Party, and of the Russian Government to which it owes allegiance. According to this doctrine, the world develops on the lines of a Plan called Dialectical Materialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_Materialism, first discovered by Karl Marx https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx, embodied in the practice of a great state by Lenin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin, and now expounded from day to day by a Church of which Stalin is the Pope. […] Free discussion is to be prevented wherever the power to do so exists; […] If this doctrine and this organization prevail, free inquiry will become as impossible as it was in the middle ages, and the world will relapse into bigotry and obscurantism.” — Bertrand Russell, The Value of Free Thought. How to Become a Truth-Seeker and Break the Chains of Mental Slavery The “kidnapped” monument to German freethinkers in the Texas hill country https://medium.com/k%C3%BChner-kommentar/the-kidnapped-monument-to-german-freethinkers-in-the-texas-hill-country-4aee0c1f518c https://medium.com/k%C3%BChner-kommentar/the-kidnapped-monument-to-german-freethinkers-in-the-texas-hill-country-4aee0c1f518c . . "What makes a freethinker is not his beliefs but the way in which he holds them. If he holds them because his elders told him they were true when he was young, or if he holds them because if he did not he would be unhappy, his thought is not
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W. E. Channing, in Channing’s sequence of time in the coming on of Emerson and others, bringing a closure to Puritanism in New England.. “The divine attributes,” Channing writes, “are first developed in ourselves and hence transferred to our Creator. The idea of God, sublime and awful as it is, is the idea of our own spiritual nature, purified and enlarged to infinity.” “When Channing whistled, if his friends had only known it, that was the end of Calvinism for Boston.” The Life of Emerson, Brooks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : 1850’s.. Freethinkers refused to accept political absolutism and the authority of a church, religion, or its supposedly inspired scripture. They insisted on the freedom to form religious opinions on the basis of intellectual reasoning powers and not on blind, unquestioned faith. Freethinking became fashionable in the German state of Prussia during the reign of Frederick the Great, who ruled from 1740-53, within a period known as the "Age of Reason." "Freethinkers" Of the Early Texas.. https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/1998/april98/scharf.html https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/1998/april98/scharf.htmlFreethought, Vs. the true believer.. true believer. noun. One who is deeply, sometimes fanatically devoted to a cause, organization, or person: “a band of true believers bonded together against all those who did not agree with them” ( Theodore Draper ) : a person who professes absolute belief in something : a zealous supporter of a particular cause ..true believers who fought the good fight even when it was out of fashion. ..it's impossible to argue with those true believers, as they think any counterevidence, is proof of an evil conspiracy. True-believers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer . . “On the other hand, according to Bertrand Russell, atheists and/or agnostics are not necessarily freethinkers. As an example, he mentions Stalin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin, whom he compares to a "pope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope": what I am concerned with is the doctrine of the modern Communistic Party, and of the Russian Government to which it owes allegiance. According to this doctrine, the world develops on the lines of a Plan called Dialectical Materialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_Materialism, first discovered by Karl Marx https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx, embodied in the practice of a great state by Lenin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin, and now expounded from day to day by a Church of which Stalin is the Pope. […] Free discussion is to be prevented wherever the power to do so exists; […] If this doctrine and this organization prevail, free inquiry will become as impossible as it was in the middle ages, and the world will relapse into bigotry and obscurantism.” — Bertrand Russell, The Value of Free Thought. How to Become a Truth-Seeker and Break the Chains of Mental Slavery Freethought is the philosophy that man rules his own destiny, rejecting the notion that there is any kind of divine intervention in life. Belief centers on the idea that nature and Natural Law guide mankind and that the use of reason, epistemology, and science are the means by which life is validated. Freethought came to Wisconsin with the massive influx of German immigrants in the 1850s, particularly those known as "Forty-eighters" who had fled autocratic German states after the failed revolts of 1848. https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 The “kidnapped” monument to German freethinkers in the Texas hill country https://medium.com/k%C3%BChner-kommentar/the-kidnapped-monument-to-german-freethinkers-in-the-texas-hill-country-4aee0c1f518c https://medium.com/k%C3%BChner-kommentar/the-kidnapped-monument-to-german-freethinkers-in-the-texas-hill-country-4aee0c1f518c . . "What makes a freethinker is not his beliefs but the way in which he holds them. If he holds them because his elders told him they were true when he was young, or if he holds them because if he did not he would be unhappy, his thought is not free; but if he holds them because, after careful thought he finds a balance of evidence in their favour, then his thought is free, however odd his conclusions may seem." .. "The person who is free in any respect is free from something; what is the free thinker free from? To be worthy of the name, he must be free of two things: the force of tradition, and the tyranny of his own passions. No one is completely free from either, but in the measure of a man's emancipation he deserves to be called a free thinker." — Bertrand Russell, The Value of Free Thought. How to Become a Truth-Seeker and Break the Chains of Mental Slavery, from the first paragraph https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought
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Freethought, Vs. the true believer.. true believer. noun. One who is deeply, sometimes fanatically devoted to a cause, organization, or person: “a band of true believers bonded together against all those who did not agree with them” ( Theodore Draper ) : a person who professes absolute belief in something : a zealous supporter of a particular cause ..true believers who fought the good fight even when it was out of fashion. ..it's impossible to argue with those true believers, as they think any counterevidence, is proof of an evil conspiracy. True-believers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : “On the other hand, according to Bertrand Russell, atheists and/or agnostics are not necessarily freethinkers. As an example, he mentions Stalin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin, whom he compares to a "pope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope": what I am concerned with is the doctrine of the modern Communistic Party, and of the Russian Government to which it owes allegiance. According to this doctrine, the world develops on the lines of a Plan called Dialectical Materialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_Materialism, first discovered by Karl Marx https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx, embodied in the practice of a great state by Lenin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin, and now expounded from day to day by a Church of which Stalin is the Pope. […] Free discussion is to be prevented wherever the power to do so exists; […] If this doctrine and this organization prevail, free inquiry will become as impossible as it was in the middle ages, and the world will relapse into bigotry and obscurantism.” — Bertrand Russell, The Value of Free Thought. How to Become a Truth-Seeker and Break the Chains of Mental Slavery Freethought is the philosophy that man rules his own destiny, rejecting the notion that there is any kind of divine intervention in life. Belief centers on the idea that nature and Natural Law guide mankind and that the use of reason, epistemology, and science are the means by which life is validated. Freethought came to Wisconsin with the massive influx of German immigrants in the 1850s, particularly those known as "Forty-eighters" who had fled autocratic German states after the failed revolts of 1848. https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 The “kidnapped” monument to German freethinkers in the Texas hill country https://medium.com/k%C3%BChner-kommentar/the-kidnapped-monument-to-german-freethinkers-in-the-texas-hill-country-4aee0c1f518c https://medium.com/k%C3%BChner-kommentar/the-kidnapped-monument-to-german-freethinkers-in-the-texas-hill-country-4aee0c1f518c 1850’s.. Freethinkers refused to accept political absolutism and the authority of a church, religion, or its supposedly inspired scripture. They insisted on the freedom to form religious opinions on the basis of intellectual reasoning powers and not on blind, unquestioned faith. Freethinking became fashionable in the German state of Prussia during the reign of Frederick the Great, who ruled from 1740-53, within a period known as the "Age of Reason." "Freethinkers" Of the Early Texas.. https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/1998/april98/scharf.html https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/1998/april98/scharf.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "What makes a freethinker is not his beliefs but the way in which he holds them. If he holds them because his elders told him they were true when he was young, or if he holds them because if he did not he would be unhappy, his thought is not free; but if he holds them because, after careful thought he finds a balance of evidence in their favour, then his thought is free, however odd his conclusions may seem." .. "The person who is free in any respect is free from something; what is the free thinker free from? To be worthy of the name, he must be free of two things: the force of tradition, and the tyranny of his own passions. No one is completely free from either, but in the measure of a man's emancipation he deserves to be called a free thinker." — Bertrand Russell, The Value of Free Thought. How to Become a Truth-Seeker and Break the Chains of Mental Slavery, from the first paragraph https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought
[FairfieldLife] Re: Freethinking
“On the other hand, according to Bertrand Russell, atheists and/or agnostics are not necessarily freethinkers. As an example, he mentions Stalin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin, whom he compares to a "pope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope": what I am concerned with is the doctrine of the modern Communistic Party, and of the Russian Government to which it owes allegiance. According to this doctrine, the world develops on the lines of a Plan called Dialectical Materialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_Materialism, first discovered by Karl Marx https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx, embodied in the practice of a great state by Lenin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin, and now expounded from day to day by a Church of which Stalin is the Pope. […] Free discussion is to be prevented wherever the power to do so exists; […] If this doctrine and this organization prevail, free inquiry will become as impossible as it was in the middle ages, and the world will relapse into bigotry and obscurantism.” — Bertrand Russell, The Value of Free Thought. How to Become a Truth-Seeker and Break the Chains of Mental Slavery Freethought is the philosophy that man rules his own destiny, rejecting the notion that there is any kind of divine intervention in life. Belief centers on the idea that nature and Natural Law guide mankind and that the use of reason, epistemology, and science are the means by which life is validated. Freethought came to Wisconsin with the massive influx of German immigrants in the 1850s, particularly those known as "Forty-eighters" who had fled autocratic German states after the failed revolts of 1848. https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 The “kidnapped” monument to German freethinkers in the Texas hill country https://medium.com/k%C3%BChner-kommentar/the-kidnapped-monument-to-german-freethinkers-in-the-texas-hill-country-4aee0c1f518c https://medium.com/k%C3%BChner-kommentar/the-kidnapped-monument-to-german-freethinkers-in-the-texas-hill-country-4aee0c1f518c 1850’s.. Freethinkers refused to accept political absolutism and the authority of a church, religion, or its supposedly inspired scripture. They insisted on the freedom to form religious opinions on the basis of intellectual reasoning powers and not on blind, unquestioned faith. Freethinking became fashionable in the German state of Prussia during the reign of Frederick the Great, who ruled from 1740-53, within a period known as the "Age of Reason." "Freethinkers" Of the Early Texas.. https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/1998/april98/scharf.html https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/1998/april98/scharf.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "What makes a freethinker is not his beliefs but the way in which he holds them. If he holds them because his elders told him they were true when he was young, or if he holds them because if he did not he would be unhappy, his thought is not free; but if he holds them because, after careful thought he finds a balance of evidence in their favour, then his thought is free, however odd his conclusions may seem." .. "The person who is free in any respect is free from something; what is the free thinker free from? To be worthy of the name, he must be free of two things: the force of tradition, and the tyranny of his own passions. No one is completely free from either, but in the measure of a man's emancipation he deserves to be called a free thinker." — Bertrand Russell, The Value of Free Thought. How to Become a Truth-Seeker and Break the Chains of Mental Slavery, from the first paragraph https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought
[FairfieldLife] Re: Freethinking
Freethought is the philosophy that man rules his own destiny, rejecting the notion that there is any kind of divine intervention in life. Belief centers on the idea that nature and Natural Law guide mankind and that the use of reason, epistemology, and science are the means by which life is validated. Freethought came to Wisconsin with the massive influx of German immigrants in the 1850s, particularly those known as "Forty-eighters" who had fled autocratic German states after the failed revolts of 1848. https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS1926 The “kidnapped” monument to German freethinkers in the Texas hill country https://medium.com/k%C3%BChner-kommentar/the-kidnapped-monument-to-german-freethinkers-in-the-texas-hill-country-4aee0c1f518c https://medium.com/k%C3%BChner-kommentar/the-kidnapped-monument-to-german-freethinkers-in-the-texas-hill-country-4aee0c1f518c 1850’s.. Freethinkers refused to accept political absolutism and the authority of a church, religion, or its supposedly inspired scripture. They insisted on the freedom to form religious opinions on the basis of intellectual reasoning powers and not on blind, unquestioned faith. Freethinking became fashionable in the German state of Prussia during the reign of Frederick the Great, who ruled from 1740-53, within a period known as the "Age of Reason." "Freethinkers" Of the Early Texas.. https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/1998/april98/scharf.html https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/1998/april98/scharf.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What makes a freethinker is not his beliefs but the way in which he holds them. If he holds them because his elders told him they were true when he was young, or if he holds them because if he did not he would be unhappy, his thought is not free; but if he holds them because, after careful thought he finds a balance of evidence in their favour, then his thought is free, however odd his conclusions may seem. .. The person who is free in any respect is free from something; what is the free thinker free from? To be worthy of the name, he must be free of two things: the force of tradition, and the tyranny of his own passions. No one is completely free from either, but in the measure of a man's emancipation he deserves to be called a free thinker. — Bertrand Russell, The Value of Free Thought. How to Become a Truth-Seeker and Break the Chains of Mental Slavery, from the first paragraph https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought
