On Aug 26, 2010, at 10:02 PM, emptybill wrote:
Judy,
In spite of my stridence, my point is simple. Become educated about Islam. I
do not mean the Islam of academics and apologists but rather how Islam is
actually understood and actually practiced in Muslim culture. There is no
such
...I think extremist Christianity is *far*
more of a threat to this country than
moderate Islam.
yifuxero:
that's for sure! (threat of Christian
Fundamentalism). Though Huckabee seems
to be a nice fellow, I would have difficulty
accepting a person as President...
So, you would
into marriage with Muslims. The rest of the women
and children were sold as slaves among the Bedouin
tribes of Nejd.
--- On Thu, 8/26/10, tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ground Zero Mosque -- Let a 1000 Blossoms
Bloom
Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 8:36
Joe:
As you know Tex, I was referring to this one,
No, Joe, this one - the one in the thread where
she waxed you for saying the 'Tex' lied about the
New Yorkers being against the Islamic Center.
Everyone knows you're prejudiced against people
that live in Texas. How many times have you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:
Joe:
As you know Tex, I was referring to this one,
No, Joe, this one - the one in the thread where
she waxed you
Apparently Judy likes her men Brazil-style, first Willie, now Joe.
for saying the 'Tex' lied about
BTW, I think extremist Christianity is *far* more
of a threat to this country than moderate Islam...
Joe:
My god yes. All we need is for one of these loony-tunes
(think Sarah Palin) who say that God/Jesus is speaking
directly to them to get in to the White House.
From what I've
Not going to say what kind of person your sputtering
furies sound like.
emptybill:
Become educated about Islam...
When Rauf and Khan won approval for their 15-story
mosque-topped Cordoba House from a Manhattan community
board this spring, they advertised their project as all
about
a scripture from any other religion into
their
country, much less build a house of worship.
From: WillyTex willy...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, August 27, 2010 6:56:46 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ground Zero Mosque -- Let a 1000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
Judy,
In spite of my stridence, my point is simple. Become educated
about Islam. I do not mean the Islam of academics and
apologists but rather how
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wg...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
Judy,
In spite of my stridence, my point is simple. Become educated
about
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:
snip
From what I've read, Joe, the current president is a
religious fundamentalist.
No, he's a liberal Christian.
If Pastor Jeremiah Wright isn't a fundie, I don't know
what is!
You're right, you don't know what Christian
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote:
snip
When you throw enough crap out there, something is bound to
stick. Part of Al Qaeda's strategy (not that these Muslims
are) is to use our own laws and values against us to attack
us. Build the Mosque/ Islamic
As you know Tex, I was referring to this one,
No, Joe, this one - the one in the thread where
she waxed you
tartbrain:
Apparently Judy likes her men Brazil-style, first
Willie, now Joe.
The only man I know of, fer sure, that Judy likes
is a guy living down in Brazil - at least
Beats me Tex, I guess you just inspire my prejudice. At least I'm only
prejudiced against one person. That would be you Willy-boy.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:
Joe:
As you know Tex, I was referring to this one,
No, Joe, this one - the one in the
No, it's Willy who is obsessed with waxing. My sources tell me that he gets
a full body Brazilian style wax every few days. He likes to be smooth as a
cue-ball when visiting his cemetery.
--- In FairfieldLifeing @yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:
No, it's Willy who is obsessed with waxing. My sources tell me that he
gets a full body Brazilian style wax every few days. He likes to be smooth as
a cue-ball when visiting his cemetery.
Is that what Jesus would have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend
jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@
wrote:
authfriend:
Not surprsingly, this is yet another falsehood
designed to smear Rauf and his project:
Now obviously, these are Muslim historians
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend
jstein@ wrote:
snip
Imam Feisal says he chose 'Cordoba' in recollection
of a time when the rest of Europe had sunk into the
Dark Ages but Muslims, Jews and Christians
So, why are most New Yorkers opposed?
Joe:
Just for you Tex:
So, why are most New Yorkers opposed, Joe?
Glenn Beck calling Imam Rauf a good muslim
on Good Morning America:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201008230004
Now obviously, these are Muslim historians
writing two-to-three-hundred years after
the events they describe...
authfriend:
I did not write the last three lines above, as
you know.
So, you don't agree that obviously, these are
Muslim historians writing two-to-three-hundred
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:
So, why are most New Yorkers opposed?
Because they've been misled and misinformed by the
right-wing bigots such as yourself.
That's a statewide poll, BTW. A majority of Manhattan
residents are in favor of it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:
Now obviously, these are Muslim historians
writing two-to-three-hundred years after
the events they describe...
authfriend:
I did not write the last three lines above, as
you know.
So, you don't agree
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:
Most New Yorkers are for it Tex. Again, you lie. It's
what you do.
Actually, he's correct, for NYC and NY State as a whole.
It's Manhattanites--who haven't been deceived by the lies--
who are for it.
--- In
Most New Yorkers are for it Tex. Again, you lie.
Most New Yorkers are against it, Joe, like in the
article from the New York Times that I posted. You
are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you call
people liars.
authfriend:
Actually, he's correct, for NYC and NY State as a
whole.
So, why are most New Yorkers opposed?
authfriend:
Because they've been misled and misinformed
The entire 68% of Americans have been misled
and misinformed - I don't think so.
by the right-wing bigots such as yourself.
This is just another obvious example of
prejudice against
If any of you had legitimate complaints against
building the center, you wouldn't have to keep
lying about it.
Joe:
Indeed. Willy has had no coherent comebacks to any
of the truth regarding this matter that has been
thrown at him. Therefore he does what he does
he lies...
I have no opinion.
authfriend:
Bullshit. You wouldn't be pushing lies about
it if you didn't. Have you ever had anybody
spit at you? Please consider yourself virtually
spat upon.
Stop the lying, Judy, you know that I didn't post
an opinion of wheteher or not the Islamic Center
in
It seems we are not yet in the full sun of the AoE. I envision such a time
where the impulse would be, amongst most if not all -- Wow, great idea. A
community center focused on cross-cultural understanding and
brother/sisterhood. And a place to show gratitude too (for which formal
worship is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:
Most New Yorkers are for it Tex. Again, you lie.
Most New Yorkers are against it, Joe, like in the
article from the New York Times that I posted. You
are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you call
people
were sold as slaves among the Bedouin
tribes of Nejd.
--- On Thu, 8/26/10, tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ground Zero Mosque -- Let a 1000 Blossoms Bloom
Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 8:36 AM
It seems we are not yet in the full sun of the AoE. I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:
I have no opinion.
authfriend:
Bullshit. You wouldn't be pushing lies about
it if you didn't. Have you ever had anybody
spit at you? Please consider yourself virtually
spat upon.
Stop the lying, Judy, you
Manhattan residents are what I was speaking of Judybut I see where New
Yorkers is too broad a phrase (even though it's the one most often used to
describe Manhattanites.)
I suspect that's what Tex had in mind as well, but he'll surely grab on to the
life raft offered.
--- In
Still smarting from the waxing Judy gave you, eh Tex?
Relax and try to calm down fella.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:
Most New Yorkers are for it Tex. Again, you lie.
Most New Yorkers are against it, Joe, like in the
article from the New York
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:
Manhattan residents are what I was speaking of Judybut
I see where New Yorkers is too broad a phrase (even
though it's the one most often used to describe
Manhattanites.)
Not really, Joe. Everyone who lives in any of the
Most New Yorkers are for it Tex. Again, you lie. It's what you do.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:
So, why are most New Yorkers opposed?
Joe:
Just for you Tex:
So, why are most New Yorkers opposed, Joe?
Glenn Beck calling Imam Rauf a good
of the women
and children were sold as slaves among the Bedouin
tribes of Nejd.
--- On Thu, 8/26/10, tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ground Zero Mosque -- Let a 1000 Blossoms Bloom
Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 8:36 AM
Â
It seems we are not yet
I'm sure that's true and it's why most of the country commonly uses New York
to refer to Manhatten. They say New York State or name a borough (I use a
studio in Brooklyn) to get more literal about other-than-Manhatten places.
Sloppy language use, but certainly quite common.
--- In
Why would anybody spend one hundred million dollars to build a community center
and mosque in an area that doesn't have an Islamic community? How do those
that support this effort feel about Carmelite nuns wanting to build a convent
next to Auschwitz to pray for the souls of those murder
Legally, no problems. But Muslims of all stripes have huge P. R. problem in
this country because of the radical element of Islam. Moderates Muslims need to
speak up more. If they build there you can almost guarantee that it will be
damaged on a regular basis.
Peter
On Aug 26, 2010, at 2:02
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote:
Why would anybody spend one hundred million dollars to build
a community center and mosque in an area that doesn't have
an Islamic community?
It does have an Islamic community, plus many Muslims who
work in the area. (And
/10, Peter L Sutphen drpetersutp...@yahoo.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ground Zero Mosque
Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 11:10 AM
Legally, no problems. But Muslims of all stripes have huge P. R. problem in
this country because of the radical element of Islam. Moderates Muslims
run.
From: Peter L Sutphen drpetersutp...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 11:10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ground Zero Mosque
Legally, no problems. But Muslims of all stripes have
the Cordoba project is
to accommodate the over flow of the other mosques?
From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 11:25:59 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ground Zero Mosque
--- In FairfieldLife
other facilities in it).
From: authfriend jst...@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 11:25:59 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ground Zero Mosque
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote:
Why would anybody spend one hundred
a
finger, innit?
From: Peter L Sutphen drpetersutp...@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 11:10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ground Zero Mosque
Legally, no problems. But Muslims of all stripes have huge
P. R. problem
Don't confuse Mike with facts Judy.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote:
Why would anybody spend one hundred million dollars to build
a community center and mosque in an area that doesn't
?
From: authfriend jst...@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 11:25:59 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ground Zero Mosque
Â
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote:
Why would anybody spend one hundred million dollars to build
Bullshit. You wouldn't be pushing lies about
it if you didn't. Have you ever had anybody
spit at you? Please consider yourself virtually
spat upon.
Stop the lying, Judy, you know that I didn't post
an opinion of wheteher or not the Islamic Center
in New York should be
Joe:
Still smarting from the waxing Judy gave you, eh Tex?
You mean the waxing Judy gave you for not realizing that
most New Yorkers are opposed to the Islamic Center? Or
the waxing Judy gave you for lying about what 'Tex' wrote?
Joe:
Most New Yorkers are for it Tex. Again, you lie.
As you know Tex, I was referring to this one,
Judy to Tex:
Bullshit. You wouldn't be pushing lies about it if
you didn't.
Have you ever had anybody spit at you?
Please consider yourself virtually spat upon.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:
Joe:
.
From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 1:00:34 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ground Zero Mosque
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote:
My understanding is that the area doesn't
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote:
snip
Wherever Muslims live in the West is either Dar-al-Dawa or
Dar-al-Kufr. Jihad is not optional it is one of the five
pillars of their faith and is part of their vocation in
the West. Saying that Muslim ideas and
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 1:00:34 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ground Zero Mosque
Â
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote:
My understanding is that the area doesn't have an Islamic
community, at least of significant number
Several
Judy,
In spite of my stridence, my point is simple. Become educated about
Islam. I do not mean the Islam of academics and apologists but rather
how Islam is actually understood and actually practiced in Muslim
culture. There is no such thing as religion in Islam; this is
a Western notion. For
Water buffalo crossing a river in Pune.
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2010/08/26/business/engineering.html
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote:
Judy,
In spite of my stridence, my point is simple. Become educated about
Islam. I do not mean the Islam of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote:
Judy,
In spite of my stridence, my point is simple. Become educated
about Islam. I do not mean the Islam of academics and
apologists but rather how Islam is actually understood and
actually practiced in Muslim culture.
that's for sure! (threat of Christian Fundamentalism). Though Huckabee seems
to be a nice fellow, I would have difficulty accepting a person as President
who believes that humans walked the earth at the same time as the dinosaurs.
The world - particularly the US - needs a major paradigm
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote:
snip
In my estimation, this is the only way to understand the
threat of Islam to Western culture and more specifically to
America. Whether we can ever come to peaceful resolution, I
don't know. I personally doubt it. No
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
snip
Just for kicks, here's part of Zakaria's recent Time column
on the community center:
Yeesh, sorry, that's Newsweek, not Time:
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/08/06/the-real-ground-zero.html
My god yes. All we need is for one of these loony-tunes (think Sarah Palin) who
say that God/Jesus is speaking directly to them to get in to the White House.
Wait, we already did! W. Bush said that he took advice from his real father,
not his biological father. That worked out really well
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@...
wrote:
Why would anybody spend one hundred million dollars to build a
community center
and mosque in an area that doesn't have an Islamic community? How
do those
that support this effort feel about Carmelite nuns wanting to
?
From: authfriend jst...@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 11:25:59 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ground Zero Mosque
Â
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote:
Why would anybody spend one hundred million dollars
On Aug 26, 2010, at 10:37 PM, seventhray1 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote:
Why would anybody spend one hundred million dollars to build a community
center
and mosque in an area that doesn't have an Islamic community? How do
those
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sun...@... wrote:
snip
And if the reports I've heard are true, no one seemed
opposed to project until a blogger brought it out into
the open.
It was out in the open from the get-go, articles in the
NY Times (back in *December*), TV
Although Muslims have a protected right to
TEACH Sharia Law in America, they are subject
to U.S. law. Likewise, there are fundamentalist
Christians who teach the U.S. should follow
ONLY biblical law, they are subject to U.S.
law...
So, why are most New Yorkers opposed?
And,
Just for you Tex:
John Stewart:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/23/stewart-fox-prince-alwaleed_n_692234.html
Glenn Beck calling Imam Rauf a good muslim on Good Morning America:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201008230004
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:
snip
And, why is this project being called the Cordoba
Initiative here in lower Manhattan? Why 'Cordoba'?
Where is Barry when I need him?
If Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the man behind the
Cordoba Initiative, was interested
Where is Barry when I need him?
authfriend:
Not surprsingly, this is yet another falsehood
designed to smear Rauf and his project:
Now obviously, these are Muslim historians
writing two-to-three-hundred years after
the events they describe...
So, the Crodoba Mosque in Sapin used to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:
authfriend:
Not surprsingly, this is yet another falsehood
designed to smear Rauf and his project:
Now obviously, these are Muslim historians
writing two-to-three-hundred years after
the events they describe...
I did
Indeed. Willy has had no coherent comebacks to any of the truth regarding this
matter that has been thrown at him. Therefore he does what he doeshe lies.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote:
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