Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?

2005-09-11 Thread Vaj
>>> The only means of liberation is the Grace of Guru. Maybe the reporter who wrote it down forgot to add "and that can be the inner, outer or secret guru." On 9/9/05 4:53 PM, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As wonderful as that quote used to sound, my gut response now > is, "And would it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?

2005-09-09 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As wonderful as that quote used to sound, my gut response now > is, "And would it possibly have been a Guru who wrote that?" Then, > "Was he asking for donations in the next breath?" > > Sorry - the universe is too vast f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?

2005-09-09 Thread Cliff
As wonderful as that quote used to sound, my gut response now is, "And would it possibly have been a Guru who wrote that?" Then, "Was he asking for donations in the next breath?" Sorry - the universe is too vast for there to be an "only means". And the Divine is too compassionate for there to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?

2005-09-09 Thread hanumanhoffman9
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So you are saying that the practice of this knowledge of > >> Sri Vidya didn't exist prior? > >> > Sri Vidya, the Audicious Wisdom, has existed since the dawn of human > conciousness, however as a tantric

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?

2005-09-09 Thread tazarmfune
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?

2005-09-09 Thread Richard J. Williams
>> So you are saying that the practice of this knowledge of >> Sri Vidya didn't exist prior? >> Sri Vidya, the Audicious Wisdom, has existed since the dawn of human conciousness, however as a tantric cult it dates from the eight century in India durng the time of the Sahajyas and mahasiddhas. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?

2005-09-09 Thread hanumanhoffman9
Comments interspersed > >> Are you suggesting that one should believe that worship of > >> Sri Vidya didn't start until this point in time and that it > > started as a Buddhist practice? > > "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> It's not a belief, it's history - the Sri Vidya cult

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?

2005-09-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
>> Are you suggesting that one should believe that worship of >> Sri Vidya didn't start until this point in time and that it > started as a Buddhist practice? > It's not a belief, it's history - the Sri Vidya cult arose at about the same time as the Bengali Shajiyas and the eighty-four mahasiddha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya

2005-09-06 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > According to the definition proposed by Maharishi, Guru Dev was a > > TMer because he was able to transcend the relative field and make > > contact with the Absolute on a regular basis. > > > By that definition every saint, mystic, and many ordinary spiritual > practitioners from every traditio

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya

2005-09-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/5/05 11:30 PM, Richard J. Williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > According to the definition proposed by Maharishi, Guru Dev was a TMer > > because he was able to transcend the relative field and make contact

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?

2005-09-06 Thread hanumanhoffman9
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > snip > comments interspersed > However, the Sri Vidya is described as a mnemonic device used for > meditation practice. Said device derives from the Buddhist tantric > practices which utilize mantra, yantra