[FairfieldLife] Re: Miracles in India

2007-05-15 Thread new . morning
Given my formative, if not formal, religioous education and
inspiration was provided by Cecille B. DeMille in the Ten
Commandments, I tend to like my miracles to be bigger and grander
than blood oozing from a picture, milk seeping, or sucking up, from a
ganesh statue, turning water into pudding, or creating holy ash.

Parting of the Red Sea -- now THAT was a miracle to behold. Turning
the Nile red with blod wasn't bad either. The staff to snakes one was
ok. The latter two had symbolic significance, but I like my miracles
to have a practical value -- like the parting of the Red Seas --
saving the fleeing hebrews. I was sad the egyptian warriors got killed
when the sea closed up -- I guess they were not God's chosen people. 

Which raises the prospect of a real miracle: God deciding that all of
humanity are his chosen and beloved -- and clearly communicating this
to all his priests, rabbis, imans, pastors, preachers, shamans, etc
that preach in HIS/HER name.

But back to visible miracles. As I said, I like the practical kind. I
don't see oozing blood helping anyone other than increasing faith --
which could mean increasing magical thinking. I would be far more 
impressed by master Jesus if he stood on the beach when the Tsunami
was roaring in and said: In the name of God my father, and through
his power, I command you killer wave to stop in your tracks and leave
the millions you are about to kill, and 100's of millions you will
leave homeless, to leave all of these my beloved chilren, leave them
in  peace. 

Now THAT would have gotten my attention. It meets all my criteria for
a good miracle: i) its BIG, ii) its not subject ot trickery and magic
manipulation (even David Copperfield or Doug Hennings could not do
THAT  trick), iii) it does some good for humanity beyond the symbolic.

Until I see that kind of miracle, I will be content with minor
miracles, people who spend 24/7 helping others, the march of science
and technology, a spectacular sunrise, my growing vegetable garden,
the stars at night. Those are far more impressive miracles to me than
some oozing blood.





  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Miracles in India
 Two portraits of Jesus on a remote Indian island began bleeding in 
 March 2007. Eric Nathaniel, a police radio operator in Port Blair on 
 the Andaman Islands noticed blood trickling down a portrait of Jesus 
 in his house on 8 March 2007. We lit candles and prayed all night 
 and a little later the blood dried but it soon started trickling down 
 from the hands and heart of another portrait in the house, Nathaniel 
 said. Thousands of people have since visited Nathaniel's house to see 
 the portraits. 
 In another report from India, blood oozed from the eyes of a statue 
 of Jesus in the yard of a Catholic church on 12 February 2007. The 
 statue at St Joseph the Worker Church in Ghoreghat, Madhya Pradesh, 
 was first seen weeping by Chandrawati Armo, who, after cleaning the 
 statue, noticed it shedding blood from both eyes. 
 Armo told the church's assistant priest, Father Pappachan. I raced 
 to the statue and found blood oozing out of its eyes, he said. 
 Pappachan smelled and tasted the red substance and was convinced it 
 is a miracle. The bleeding statue was also witnessed by nuns and a 
 villager. The flow of blood stopped, and the blood on the statue 
 clotted. Clots are also visible on the statue's hands, according to 
 Father Florentius Kujur, the parish priest. Many people have visited 
 the church to view the statue. (Source: Union of Catholic Asian News; 
 Reuters)
 (Benjamin Creme's Master confirms that these were miracles manifested 
 by the Master Jesus.)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Miracles in India

2007-05-15 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Given my formative, if not formal, religioous education and
 inspiration was provided by Cecille B. DeMille in the Ten
 Commandments, I tend to like my miracles to be bigger and grander
 than blood oozing from a picture, milk seeping, or sucking up, from 
a
 ganesh statue, turning water into pudding, or creating holy ash.
 
 Parting of the Red Sea -- now THAT was a miracle to behold. Turning
 the Nile red with blod wasn't bad either. The staff to snakes one 
was
 ok. The latter two had symbolic significance, but I like my miracles
 to have a practical value -- like the parting of the Red Seas --
 saving the fleeing hebrews. I was sad the egyptian warriors got 
killed
 when the sea closed up -- I guess they were not God's chosen 
people. 
 
 Which raises the prospect of a real miracle: God deciding that all 
of
 humanity are his chosen and beloved -- and clearly communicating 
this
 to all his priests, rabbis, imans, pastors, preachers, shamans, etc
 that preach in HIS/HER name.
 
 But back to visible miracles. As I said, I like the practical kind. 
I
 don't see oozing blood helping anyone other than 
increasing faith --

Faith is a very good thing indeed.


 which could mean increasing magical thinking. I would be far more 
 impressed by master Jesus if he stood on the beach when the Tsunami
 was roaring in and said: In the name of God my father, and through
 his power, I command you killer wave to stop in your tracks and 
leave
 the millions you are about to kill, and 100's of millions you will
 leave homeless, to leave all of these my beloved chilren, leave them
 in  peace. 

Nice thought, but it would certainly infringe on the principle of 
karma. Some people just had to go that day.
 
The Masters did however make the rather irritated snakes that 
stranded on some rafts in the sea after the tsumani together with 
humans more friendly. One child stayed peacefully on one of those 
rafts together with a huge snake for several days. Also the snakes in 
the trees did not bite the people with whom they shared temporary 
refuge.

Some will go, some will stay. Maharishi, Washington, 1982

If they have to go, why not go together ? -Maharishi, on air-
disasters

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  Miracles in India
  Two portraits of Jesus on a remote Indian island began bleeding 
in 
  March 2007. Eric Nathaniel, a police radio operator in Port Blair 
on 
  the Andaman Islands noticed blood trickling down a portrait of 
Jesus 
  in his house on 8 March 2007. We lit candles and prayed all 
night 
  and a little later the blood dried but it soon started trickling 
down 
  from the hands and heart of another portrait in the house, 
Nathaniel 
  said. Thousands of people have since visited Nathaniel's house to 
see 
  the portraits. 
  In another report from India, blood oozed from the eyes of a 
statue 
  of Jesus in the yard of a Catholic church on 12 February 2007. 
The 
  statue at St Joseph the Worker Church in Ghoreghat, Madhya 
Pradesh, 
  was first seen weeping by Chandrawati Armo, who, after cleaning 
the 
  statue, noticed it shedding blood from both eyes. 
  Armo told the church's assistant priest, Father Pappachan. I 
raced 
  to the statue and found blood oozing out of its eyes, he said. 
  Pappachan smelled and tasted the red substance and was convinced 
it 
  is a miracle. The bleeding statue was also witnessed by nuns and 
a 
  villager. The flow of blood stopped, and the blood on the statue 
  clotted. Clots are also visible on the statue's hands, according 
to 
  Father Florentius Kujur, the parish priest. Many people have 
visited 
  the church to view the statue. (Source: Union of Catholic Asian 
News; 
  Reuters)
  (Benjamin Creme's Master confirms that these were miracles 
manifested 
  by the Master Jesus.)