[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June

2009-06-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote:
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   With what seems like quite a large number of these
   circles, isn't it odd that someone hasn't seen them
   being made and, have the facts on how it is done?
  
  Yes. What do you conclude from that?
 
   Maybe I am not alert enough to see it is all BS.
   Still, they look like very precise  patterns and, maybe
 could have some yet to be discovered meaning.
   I think if it were my farm, I would make some effort to
 find out.

I don't think it's all BS either. Apparently many of
them are human-made--creating them has become sort of
a hobby-cum-cult--but the origin of others is unclear.
There's a great deal of material on the Web about them;
it's not as if nobody's done any investigating.

A lot of it is silly, IMHO, but there's also been some
pretty hard scientific research that has identified
very strange features--altered molecular structure in
the plants, for example (features that are not found
in circles that are known to be human-made).

And it seems that they simply don't get made if
anybody's watching.

I don't think they're messages from the Space
Brothers, but I really have no clue whatsoever what/
who might be creating the ones that don't seem to
have been made by humans.

Some of them are amazingly sophisticated 
mathematically.

I agree with off_world; no matter what/who is
responsible for them, they're beautiful. Many of 
them are real works of art. Even if they're all human-
made, that such incredibly elaborate designs can be
laid down overnight in complete secrecy is nothing
short of remarkable.

It's just a fascinating phenomenon, and it gets
more compelling the more you look into it.

We've had a good bit of discussion here before, if
you want to check the archives. It does seem to make
some people very nervous, judging from the near-
hysterical tone of their skepticism.





[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June

2009-06-03 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009
   
 http://www.temporarytemples.co.uk/
   
   Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009
   
 http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/
  
With what seems like quite a large number of these
  circles, isn't it odd that someone hasn't seen them
  being made and, have the facts on how it is done?
 
 Yes. What do you conclude from that?

Small balls of light has been filmed as they/it created a huge Crop Circle in 
less than one minute. The video is there to buy.




[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June

2009-06-03 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote:
 snip
With what seems like quite a large number of these
circles, isn't it odd that someone hasn't seen them
being made and, have the facts on how it is done?
   
   Yes. What do you conclude from that?
  
Maybe I am not alert enough to see it is all BS.
Still, they look like very precise  patterns and, maybe
  could have some yet to be discovered meaning.
I think if it were my farm, I would make some effort to
  find out.
 
 I don't think it's all BS either. Apparently many of
 them are human-made--creating them has become sort of
 a hobby-cum-cult--but the origin of others is unclear.
 There's a great deal of material on the Web about them;
 it's not as if nobody's done any investigating.
 
 A lot of it is silly, IMHO, but there's also been some
 pretty hard scientific research that has identified
 very strange features--altered molecular structure in
 the plants, for example (features that are not found
 in circles that are known to be human-made).
 
 And it seems that they simply don't get made if
 anybody's watching.
 
 I don't think they're messages from the Space
 Brothers, but I really have no clue whatsoever what/
 who might be creating the ones that don't seem to
 have been made by humans.
 
 Some of them are amazingly sophisticated 
 mathematically.
 
 I agree with off_world; no matter what/who is
 responsible for them, they're beautiful. Many of 
 them are real works of art. Even if they're all human-
 made, that such incredibly elaborate designs can be
 laid down overnight in complete secrecy is nothing
 short of remarkable.
 
 It's just a fascinating phenomenon, and it gets
 more compelling the more you look into it.
 
 We've had a good bit of discussion here before, if
 you want to check the archives. It does seem to make
 some people very nervous, judging from the near-
 hysterical tone of their skepticism.

  They look like artworks or, possibly some message but not to get hysterical 
about as it would seem that if whoever is in command of such technology was mad 
at us, we would be long gone.  N



[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June

2009-06-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
  I agree with off_world; no matter what/who is
  responsible for them, they're beautiful. Many of 
  them are real works of art. Even if they're all human-
  made, that such incredibly elaborate designs can be
  laid down overnight in complete secrecy is nothing
  short of remarkable.
  
  It's just a fascinating phenomenon, and it gets
  more compelling the more you look into it.
  
  We've had a good bit of discussion here before, if
  you want to check the archives. It does seem to make
  some people very nervous, judging from the near-
  hysterical tone of their skepticism.
 
   They look like artworks or, possibly some message but
 not to get hysterical about as it would seem that if
 whoever is in command of such technology was mad at us,
 we would be long gone.

Heh. I don't think that's what scares them. It's
the idea that some of the circles may not have a
mundane explanation they find terrifying.




[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June

2009-06-03 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 snip
   I agree with off_world; no matter what/who is
   responsible for them, they're beautiful. Many of 
   them are real works of art. Even if they're all human-
   made, that such incredibly elaborate designs can be
   laid down overnight in complete secrecy is nothing
   short of remarkable.
   
   It's just a fascinating phenomenon, and it gets
   more compelling the more you look into it.
   
   We've had a good bit of discussion here before, if
   you want to check the archives. It does seem to make
   some people very nervous, judging from the near-
   hysterical tone of their skepticism.
  
They look like artworks or, possibly some message but
  not to get hysterical about as it would seem that if
  whoever is in command of such technology was mad at us,
  we would be long gone.
 
 Heh. I don't think that's what scares them. It's
 the idea that some of the circles may not have a
 mundane explanation they find terrifying.

  That must be right.
  We don't have many such things here- is this some sort of discrimination and, 
who do we complain to.
   In Iowa here, we have farmers spreading manure on fields but they have never 
been known to achieve such geometric precision in design and, more likely, they 
would be called crap circles I expect.



[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June

2009-06-03 Thread ruthsimplicity

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

We've had a good bit of discussion here before, if
you want to check the archives. It does seem to make
some people very nervous, judging from the near-
hysterical tone of their skepticism.


I think this is a serious misreading of what the skeptics think.  Nervous?  
More likely exasperated. But it is interesting if you do in fact think that the 
skeptics are nervous when there is nothing to be nervous about. 

But the art is lovely. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June

2009-06-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote:

 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
 We've had a good bit of discussion here before, if
 you want to check the archives. It does seem to make
 some people very nervous, judging from the near-
 hysterical tone of their skepticism.
 
 I think this is a serious misreading of what the
 skeptics think.  Nervous?  More likely exasperated.

No, I think nervous is the word for it.

 But it is interesting if you do in fact think that
 the skeptics are nervous when there is nothing to be
 nervous about.

Even less to be exasperated about. But they're very
ignorant of what's involved.




[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June

2009-06-02 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:

 
 
 
 
 
 Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009
 
   http://www.temporarytemples.co.uk/
 
 
 
 Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009
 
   http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/

  With what seems like quite a large number of these circles, isn't it odd that 
someone hasn't seen them being made and, have the facts on how it is done?




[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June

2009-06-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009
  
http://www.temporarytemples.co.uk/
  
  Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009
  
http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/
 
   With what seems like quite a large number of these
 circles, isn't it odd that someone hasn't seen them
 being made and, have the facts on how it is done?

Yes. What do you conclude from that?




[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June

2009-06-02 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009
   
 http://www.temporarytemples.co.uk/
   
   Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009
   
 http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/
  
With what seems like quite a large number of these
  circles, isn't it odd that someone hasn't seen them
  being made and, have the facts on how it is done?
 
 Yes. What do you conclude from that?

  Maybe I am not alert enough to see it is all BS.
  Still, they look like very precise  patterns and, maybe could have some yet 
to be discovered meaning.
   I think if it were my farm, I would make some effort to find out.



[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June

2009-06-02 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Nelson nelsonriddle2...@...
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Nelson nelsonriddle2001@
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , nablusoss1008 no_reply@
wrote:
   
Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009
   
  http://www.temporarytemples.co.uk/
http://www.temporarytemples.co.uk/ 
   
Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009
   
  http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/
http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/ 
   
 With what seems like quite a large number of these
   circles, isn't it odd that someone hasn't seen them
   being made and, have the facts on how it is done?
 
  Yes. What do you conclude from that?
 
   Maybe I am not alert enough to see it is all BS.
   Still, they look like very precise  patterns and, maybe could have
some yet to be discovered meaning.
I think if it were my farm, I would make some effort to find out.


It is an interesting point you made Nelson.

I am an artist, and visited one of these crop circles before the
phenomenon was really recognised internationally (actually I was taken
to the site by a completely unrelated party (  in the 1980's in England,
about 50 miles from Stonehenge -- a couple of old ladies took me there,
followers of Krishnamurti, and ex TM'rs) --  coincidentally, the day
after a friend and I had witnessed a very strange UFO ( that means
unidentified - it was way up in the sky, very strange, and we did not
know what it was -- ie. unidentified flying object.)
We drove  to the reported crop circle. When I saw it, I thought, even if
they are fake it represents something that, as and artist, I
understood...it represented a consciousness that was creative and
intelligent, and  profound.

Even if it is fakers, they cannot help but tap into something profound,
because they are not distinct from truth, no matter how hard they try.
We are truth, truth is what we are.

In fact, that is what they intend to do - tap into our archetypal nature
-  and as creatively intelligent people, they are able to do that.

However, if they are aliens beaming some profound message from outer
space, what is the difference? No matter if they are fakers, or hippies
of the best intentions, or aliens from outer space... it does not
matter.

As an artist, they are beautiful, and that goes beyond all creed, color,
or species ( or alien)

We are all one, we all love beauty, truth, and life...wether republican
or democrat, Russian or Jamaican, human or animal, Earthling or Alien.

We are all the same.

And it is beuatiful.

OffWorld