[FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-03 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
So, it's all about the people, not about the ideas. Anyone is a "scientologist" that believes in science as their religion. So, it's ironic that this movie review was posted by Barry, the "spiritual" science-writer. Go figure. The interesting thing about "Going Clear" is that not one of the in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-03 Thread ultrarishi
So here's my 2 bits worth. I think "Going Clear" did a good job with a complex subject in a limited amount of time. It probably would have done better as a series or mini-series because there is just so much great stuff to talk about. Lisa McPherson, Ron DeWolfe, Grady Ward, etc. My limit

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-02 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
global.net [FairfieldLife]" *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:32 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear" According to Frank Herbert, the author of "Dune", Hubbard and another writer, Paul Twitchell, h

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-01 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
. Ron Hubbard is the most brilliant man I have ever met. I also believe that he was *certifiably* paranoid." From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 7:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-01 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
23 members of the Eastern Science Fiction Association. From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-01 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
ubbard is the most brilliant man I have ever met. I also believe that he was *certifiably* paranoid." /* *From:* salyavin808 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 7:16 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-01 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
noid." From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 7:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear" Excellent, it's a must see I reckon. Especially the billion year contract, does that include a d

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-01 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
'd walk off. Yes, it was kinda evil of me to do this, but given the stories we're all hearing now about how they treat people, I can't feel bad about it. :-) :-) :-) From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:32 AM Subject:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-01 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
ot; mailto:geezerfreak@...[FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 2:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear" Happened to me too Barry, as you kno

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-01 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
I have ever met. I also believe that he was *certifiably* paranoid." From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 7:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear" Excellent, it's a must see I reckon.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-01 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
ife]" *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 1, 2015 2:34 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear" Happened to me too Barry, as you know. Fascinating also to see the various monuments to Elron around the world, as we

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-01 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
fieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 2:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear" Happened to me too Barry, as you know. Fascinating also to see the various monuments to Elron around the world,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-01 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
"So, as far as informants, they suck, big time, because they are no longer insiders. Obviously these old guys have not been on a spiritual path for decades. I wouldn't believe anything they say now, after they lied to us for all those years. Where is Judy when we need her? Go figure." ---In Fai

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-01 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
. Ron Hubbard is the most brilliant man I have ever met. I also believe that he was *certifiably* paranoid." From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 7:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-01 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
t;Check." How far up their asses do they keep their heads to remain this blind, and for this long? From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 2:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-01 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
e that L. Ron Hubbard is the most brilliant man I have ever met. I also believe that he was *certifiably* paranoid." From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 7:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-01 Thread aryavazhi
Tex, are you talking about yourself here? You haven't been to any still populated movement place within decades, or any place where Maharishi stayed, or have you seen the Raja, or what? And Judy, Judy? I think she was on a weekend course once, and the closest she came to Maharishi was seeing one

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-01 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 2:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear" Happened to me too Barry, as you know. Fascinating also to see the various monuments to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-01 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 2:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"   Happened to me too Barry, as you know. Fascinating also to see the various monuments to Elron around the world, as well as the him posing for an artist bust in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-01 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
uot; Then I'd walk off. Yes, it was kinda evil of me to do this, but given the stories we're all hearing now about how they treat people, I can't feel bad about it.  :-)  :-)  :-) From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:32 AM Su

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-01 Thread salyavin808
lyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 7:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear" Excellent, it's a must see I reckon. Especially the billion year contract, does that include a dental plan I wonder? I almos

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-03-31 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
e said, very precisely and carefully, "I honestly believe that L. Ron Hubbard is the most brilliant man I have ever met. I also believe that he was *certifiably* paranoid." From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 7:16 PM Subject: [Fairf

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-03-31 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
If you lied for all those years who would believe anything you have to say now? "I've seen him project the double, as described in the Castaneda books. One of him was standing a few feet in front of me and another one was up on top of the mountain we were in front of, waving." - TurquoiseB h

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-03-31 Thread geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Happened to me too Barry, as you know. Fascinating also to see the various monuments to Elron around the world, as well as the him posing for an artist bust in clay. Monumental (literally) ego of the leader leads to monuments made to said leader: check Large real estate holdings become

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-03-31 Thread salyavin808
Excellent, it's a must see I reckon. Especially the billion year contract, does that include a dental plan I wonder? I almost wish I joined when I was interested after reading "Dianetics", trouble is I might now be a CO$ TB who is forbidden to read or watch "negative" stuff about the "chur

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-03-31 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
You tried to turn a simple relaxation technique into a cult religion with Fred Lenz as a personal golden avatar. Gawd! It took you 34 years to come out of the trance-induction state. After spending 15 years posting to the internet what is it exactly that you still don't understand? JOINING

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-03-31 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"   Excellent synopsis Barry, thanks!Here's a section of an interview with Alex Gibney and Lawrence Wright with a few added points that should give long time TMO folk (or ANY cult member) pause. Particularly note th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-03-31 Thread geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Excellent synopsis Barry, thanks! Here's a section of an interview with Alex Gibney and Lawrence Wright with a few added points that should give long time TMO folk (or ANY cult member) pause. Particularly note the importance of amassing real estate holdings: The rally where David Miscavige anno