[FairfieldLife] Re: Off topic? : recent trends that signal FF housing bubble

2005-11-16 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Best of luck to you off, may you prosper in the current housing 
market and may you get your massive hallucinations under control.>>


And I wholeheartedly and warmly wish the same to you ;-)

OffWorld





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Off topic? : recent trends that signal FF housing bubble

2005-11-16 Thread akasha_108
"dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:udio".

Hi doug,

I sense your broad frustration. That housing discussions is filling up
FFL may be a bit of an exageration. The recent thread has 18 posts.
Hardly competes with "Ostrich Meat", and does not far exceed "Would
You let Gates be Born" or "Home Recording Studio"

But I agree, relevance to FF, or TMers lives, (here or there, or
anywhere) or spiritual matters are the most sought and appealing
topics on FFL. IMO, the potential housing bubble is relevant to
relevance to FF, and TMers lives. As I posted yesterday, it could have
a sizeable impact on mortgage rates (which will affect the salability
of FF housing), national employment and income (which will affect the
many FF business that have a national clientele) and potenital in and
out migration of FF. 

On the latter, as home prices in hot markets (West Coast, East Coast,
Florida, etc) and quite warm markets (many metro areas) -- people
throughout the country have the option to cash out and with the
proceeds could buy quite nice -- better tan they left, FF properties
in cash. And participate in what you have been nicely pointing out --
an ambiance and community is similar to Boulder, Ashville, etc -- but
in a smaller town context.
 
On the other hand, if the bubble deflates repidly (compared to 15-20
year slow "swish") homes in many attractive (beach, mountain etc)
areas may be at 30-50% of current prices. At a percieved bottom. Many
who have cash in FF, may decide to venture out and buy at the bottom
of the market. And get some environmental ammenities they have not had
in FF. 

And a rapid bubble deflation could cause  some degree of disruption
and suffering (nothing of the scale of Off's scenarios). I always
thought compassion and assistance was part of the FF seva ethic --
perhaps not.

But I get your point. For whatever reasons, you and others percieve
the relativly small number of housing posts as "filling" up FFL. A
good scapegoat for the agreed demise of quality of FFL in the past
year, relative to its golden years.  

The current demise of quality of FFL relative to its golden years has
made me ponder. It may be time to move on. To find a group more in
synch with my interests. I may lurk occaisionally, but for reasons of
interest and time, I think I will moeve on.

FFL has been great. I have learned a lot. Best of Luck.   
 


> Yes, you have succeeded to fill up the FFL list with exacting
'almost  anything', as the FFL home page encourages.  Why is the topic
here?   Out on the street for a while I ask and talk to a lot of
people who do  not read FFL anymore because of the reams of unrelated
stuff like 
> this.  People would be more inclined to come here as a place if it 
> stuck to topic (FFL) a little more, but they tend not to look 
> anymore.  
> 
> Can you bring this thread to Fairfield.  Like, is this disparity 
> between rents and mortgage payments why the TMO is converting its 
> properties to cash?  Or that some of the meditating community has
fled to other places and that some of the meditating community is
looking to move here as a place.  
> 
> Is it a reason to dump real estate in FF?  Or buy.  What is the
trend in Fairfield?  Is the FF market unrelated local trend or national?
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Off topic? : recent trends that signal FF housing bubble

2005-11-16 Thread akasha_108
Best of luck to you off, may you prosper in the current housing market
and may you get your massive hallucinations under control.

"under Akasha's scenario, not mine" --- hahahaha, good one.


 

 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 
> >> Can you bring this thread to Fairfield. ?>>>
> 
> 
> I think that one of the things that would happen if Akasha's 
> scenario takes place would be that people would be out on the street 
> across the country - can't afford rent, can't afford to buy, can't 
> afford to run a car. Any rentals that work would soon turn to slums 
> since landlords would squeeze as many of the now low paying renters 
> into the houses as possible. Unemployment is high under Akasha's 
> scenario also. So milliopns of people would suddenly not be able to 
> live the life they are accustomed to . There would be not enough 
> money from taxes to pay for the police and army, and the black hole 
> of Iraq would suck up any excess. A break-down in law and order 
> would occur and corruption among police and politicians would be 
> rife. Under Akasha's scenario, not mine, The already millions of 
> dirt poor immigrants in US would now have nothing, but would take 
> the opportunity to re-organize themselves and become a volatile and 
> unpredictable force within the breaking down society. If the US 
> pulls out of Iraq before it is a stable dictatorship again, the 
> middle east will meltdown and oil prices will skyrocket. All the 
> people who have been moving to the East and West coasts of the US, 
> raising the population there, would be in a 1930's depression-like 
> situation. While the now depopulating midwest would suffer loss of 
> income from farming and other business. Oil prices would stifle the 
> midwest to some extent.
> Next (under Akasha's scenario, not mine), the Chinese would make 
> their move to start to buy or take over parts of the US based on the 
> massive debt the US owes them. The US military would be in dissarray 
> and corrupt due to lack of funding, and a better organised nation 
> will have to take control someohow (directly or indirectly) of the 
> dangerous US armeries. The greatest superpower on earth would have 
> imploded.
> 
> However (under Akasha's scenario, not mine), the midwest would most 
> likely be the least affected area since it is the least populated 
> and those from the West and East coast, who could do so, would move 
> to the Midwest in droves to escape the chaos elswhere. They would 
> also make life-changing decisions and (under Akasha's scenario, not 
> mine),  masses of them would move to Fairfield seeking a better way 
> than before. Thus DIRECTLY impacting Fairfieldin a good way. 
> Fairfielders would welcome them and they would learn the ways of the 
> enlightened and house prices and business across the midwest would 
> take off to be mecca that many east and west coasters would now seek.
> 
> This is the relevance to Fairfield that Akasha is trying to convey.
> 
> However, how many people here think that this scenario or a version 
> of it will happen? 
> If you think some of it will happen please pinpoint which aspects 
> you think are feasible.
> 
> Personally , I am with you, it is not a good place on FFL to discuss 
> in such great swaths of cut and paste articles the hypothetical 
> housing bubble bust, nor the hypothetical bird flu disaster.
> 
> Off World
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Off topic? : recent trends that signal FF housing bubble

2005-11-16 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

> Yes, you have succeeded to fill up the FFL list with 
exacting 'almost 
> anything', as the FFL home page encourages.  Why is the topic 
here?  
> Out on the street for a while I ask and talk to a lot of people 
who do 
> not read FFL anymore because of the reams of unrelated stuff like 
> this.  People would be more inclined to come here as a place if it 
> stuck to topic (FFL) a little more, but they tend not to look 
> anymore.  
> 

>> Can you bring this thread to Fairfield. ?>>>


I think that one of the things that would happen if Akasha's 
scenario takes place would be that people would be out on the street 
across the country - can't afford rent, can't afford to buy, can't 
afford to run a car. Any rentals that work would soon turn to slums 
since landlords would squeeze as many of the now low paying renters 
into the houses as possible. Unemployment is high under Akasha's 
scenario also. So milliopns of people would suddenly not be able to 
live the life they are accustomed to . There would be not enough 
money from taxes to pay for the police and army, and the black hole 
of Iraq would suck up any excess. A break-down in law and order 
would occur and corruption among police and politicians would be 
rife. Under Akasha's scenario, not mine, The already millions of 
dirt poor immigrants in US would now have nothing, but would take 
the opportunity to re-organize themselves and become a volatile and 
unpredictable force within the breaking down society. If the US 
pulls out of Iraq before it is a stable dictatorship again, the 
middle east will meltdown and oil prices will skyrocket. All the 
people who have been moving to the East and West coasts of the US, 
raising the population there, would be in a 1930's depression-like 
situation. While the now depopulating midwest would suffer loss of 
income from farming and other business. Oil prices would stifle the 
midwest to some extent.
Next (under Akasha's scenario, not mine), the Chinese would make 
their move to start to buy or take over parts of the US based on the 
massive debt the US owes them. The US military would be in dissarray 
and corrupt due to lack of funding, and a better organised nation 
will have to take control someohow (directly or indirectly) of the 
dangerous US armeries. The greatest superpower on earth would have 
imploded.

However (under Akasha's scenario, not mine), the midwest would most 
likely be the least affected area since it is the least populated 
and those from the West and East coast, who could do so, would move 
to the Midwest in droves to escape the chaos elswhere. They would 
also make life-changing decisions and (under Akasha's scenario, not 
mine),  masses of them would move to Fairfield seeking a better way 
than before. Thus DIRECTLY impacting Fairfieldin a good way. 
Fairfielders would welcome them and they would learn the ways of the 
enlightened and house prices and business across the midwest would 
take off to be mecca that many east and west coasters would now seek.

This is the relevance to Fairfield that Akasha is trying to convey.

However, how many people here think that this scenario or a version 
of it will happen? 
If you think some of it will happen please pinpoint which aspects 
you think are feasible.

Personally , I am with you, it is not a good place on FFL to discuss 
in such great swaths of cut and paste articles the hypothetical 
housing bubble bust, nor the hypothetical bird flu disaster.

Off World





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