[FairfieldLife] Re: Point of Consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think that for any knowledge to be possible, there has to be that bindu point that includes all knowledge and this point is omnipresent. Based on what I am learning in the chat group of physicists and mathematicians that I belong to, the big bang is definitely bindu. It is the first distinction from undifferentiated being. > I love this idea that that the big bang is definitely bindu, in this case the bindu point being defined to contain a potential universe. The question then arises, where is this bindu located? Scientists haven't located exactly where the origin of the big bang is. My daughter took an astronomy class. She described to me how Hubble, after observing the motion of large numbers of galaxies, determined that they were all moving away from an original point of reference and therefore, the big bang theory was created. Thinking about this, I believed that no matter where a person existed in a universe, their perception of galaxies would be the same, all moving away from a common reference point. I then felt that this subjective observation really indicated that the perception of big bang or origins of the universe began with the point of consciousness or what I understand as the bindu of consciousness or spiritual essence. The concept that we each create one universe is an extension of this idea, our creation and therefore perception of everything stems from the existence of the bindu.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Point of Consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie" > wrote: > > > > What do you think of the idea of the Bindu, what MMY refers to as > a > > point of consciousness originating from Fullness, a seed > containing in > > a potential state all the forces, dimensions, time, suns, solar > > systems, galaxies, galaxy clusters and universe required for the > > creation of a single universe. This point of consciousness could > be the > > origin of the big bang and in this case refers to the origin of a > > single soul, creating its' universe and then incarnating into it, > each > > soul creating its' own universe from this seed of consciousness. > At the > > end of a souls lifetime, its' created universe then reverts back > into > > the Bindu and then back into Fullness. > > > I think what Maharishi says about the Bindu is that it contains all > that there is, within all that there is. So there is not a Bindu of > singularity inside of that which is not of the same essential nature > as the Bindu. Rather, from any point in all that there is, that > chosen point can be isolated, the Bindu point, which then is found > to also contain all that there is; a point of Infinity, within > Infinity. There is nothing which is not Bindu. ...or banana.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Point of Consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- sandiego108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > What do you think of the idea of the Bindu, what > > MMY refers to as > > a > > > point of consciousness originating from Fullness, > > a seed > > containing in > > > a potential state all the forces, dimensions, > > time, suns, solar > > > systems, galaxies, galaxy clusters and universe > > required for the > > > creation of a single universe. This point of > > consciousness could > > be the > > > origin of the big bang and in this case refers to > > the origin of a > > > single soul, creating its' universe and then > > incarnating into it, > > each > > > soul creating its' own universe from this seed of > > consciousness. > > At the > > > end of a souls lifetime, its' created universe > > then reverts back > > into > > > the Bindu and then back into Fullness. > > > > > I think what Maharishi says about the Bindu is that > > it contains all > > that there is, within all that there is. So there is > > not a Bindu of > > singularity inside of that which is not of the same > > essential nature > > as the Bindu. Rather, from any point in all that > > there is, that > > chosen point can be isolated, the Bindu point, which > > then is found > > to also contain all that there is; a point of > > Infinity, within > > Infinity. There is nothing which is not Bindu. > > I've experienced two types, gold and blue. They open > into universes. I wouldn't call them a point of > consciousness, but I know why you say that. A point of > consciousness is consciousness as emptiness. A true > point is dimensionless as pure consciousness is > "appreciated" to be in CC. Bindus are points in a > relative sense because they are perceived through the > senses (subtle). So they initially appear as a "point" > of light in awareness and if you hold the attention on > them they might open into a universe in your > awareness. Just a really "trippy" object of > perception. Very nice peter. I'm sorry I thought you were a mental case, a blind leading other blinds and taking their cash simultaneously. I do apologize.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Point of Consciousness
I think that for any knowledge to be possible, there has to be that bindu point that includes all knowledge and this point is omnipresent. Based on what I am learning in the chat group of physicists and mathematicians that I belong to, the big bang is definitely bindu. It is the first distinction from undifferentiated being. - Original Message From: tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:35:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Point of Consciousness sandiego108 writes snipped: I think what Maharishi says about the Bindu is that it contains all that there is, within all that there is. So there is not a Bindu of singularity inside of that which is not of the same essential nature as the Bindu. Rather, from any point in all that there is, that chosen point can be isolated, the Bindu point, which then is found to also contain all that there is; a point of Infinity, within Infinity. There is nothing which is not Bindu. Tom T: When the Knowing is Known by the ultimate Knower there is no where left to go. This is the one and only Knower knowing its creation through its own Self. From the totality of creation to point value it is all Knower and Knower can know through the totality and the point value simultaneously. All the ocean in a drop. Same. TomT Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Point of Consciousness
sandiego108 writes snipped: I think what Maharishi says about the Bindu is that it contains all that there is, within all that there is. So there is not a Bindu of singularity inside of that which is not of the same essential nature as the Bindu. Rather, from any point in all that there is, that chosen point can be isolated, the Bindu point, which then is found to also contain all that there is; a point of Infinity, within Infinity. There is nothing which is not Bindu. Tom T: When the Knowing is Known by the ultimate Knower there is no where left to go. This is the one and only Knower knowing its creation through its own Self. From the totality of creation to point value it is all Knower and Knower can know through the totality and the point value simultaneously. All the ocean in a drop. Same. TomT
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Point of Consciousness
On Jan 28, 2008, at 7:31 AM, Peter wrote: --- sandiego108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > What do you think of the idea of the Bindu, what > MMY refers to as > a > > point of consciousness originating from Fullness, > a seed > containing in > > a potential state all the forces, dimensions, > time, suns, solar > > systems, galaxies, galaxy clusters and universe > required for the > > creation of a single universe. This point of > consciousness could > be the > > origin of the big bang and in this case refers to > the origin of a > > single soul, creating its' universe and then > incarnating into it, > each > > soul creating its' own universe from this seed of > consciousness. > At the > > end of a souls lifetime, its' created universe > then reverts back > into > > the Bindu and then back into Fullness. > > > I think what Maharishi says about the Bindu is that > it contains all > that there is, within all that there is. So there is > not a Bindu of > singularity inside of that which is not of the same > essential nature > as the Bindu. Rather, from any point in all that > there is, that > chosen point can be isolated, the Bindu point, which > then is found > to also contain all that there is; a point of > Infinity, within > Infinity. There is nothing which is not Bindu. I've experienced two types, gold and blue. They open into universes. I wouldn't call them a point of consciousness, but I know why you say that. A point of consciousness is consciousness as emptiness. A true point is dimensionless as pure consciousness is "appreciated" to be in CC. Bindus are points in a relative sense because they are perceived through the senses (subtle). So they initially appear as a "point" of light in awareness and if you hold the attention on them they might open into a universe in your awareness. Just a really "trippy" object of perception. That would be a relative bindu or the aspect of the energetic dimension consisting of prana (or vayu), nadi and bindu. There is a more absolute level to bindu (the maha-bindu), but that's different than what's being described here and taught in inner practices of both the Buddhist and Hindu tantras. As one 'gets used to' the view of Unity, then one can integrate further aspects of individual and collective energy to the point where bindus "self-perfect" into mandalas or dimensions of deities. Eventually, as this stabilizes, this is carried into waking state as well. This shouldn't be confused with the idea of the 4 transformations of the point used in Advaita vedanta and Nyaya metaphysics which MMY talks about.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Point of Consciousness
--- sandiego108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > What do you think of the idea of the Bindu, what > MMY refers to as > a > > point of consciousness originating from Fullness, > a seed > containing in > > a potential state all the forces, dimensions, > time, suns, solar > > systems, galaxies, galaxy clusters and universe > required for the > > creation of a single universe. This point of > consciousness could > be the > > origin of the big bang and in this case refers to > the origin of a > > single soul, creating its' universe and then > incarnating into it, > each > > soul creating its' own universe from this seed of > consciousness. > At the > > end of a souls lifetime, its' created universe > then reverts back > into > > the Bindu and then back into Fullness. > > > I think what Maharishi says about the Bindu is that > it contains all > that there is, within all that there is. So there is > not a Bindu of > singularity inside of that which is not of the same > essential nature > as the Bindu. Rather, from any point in all that > there is, that > chosen point can be isolated, the Bindu point, which > then is found > to also contain all that there is; a point of > Infinity, within > Infinity. There is nothing which is not Bindu. I've experienced two types, gold and blue. They open into universes. I wouldn't call them a point of consciousness, but I know why you say that. A point of consciousness is consciousness as emptiness. A true point is dimensionless as pure consciousness is "appreciated" to be in CC. Bindus are points in a relative sense because they are perceived through the senses (subtle). So they initially appear as a "point" of light in awareness and if you hold the attention on them they might open into a universe in your awareness. Just a really "trippy" object of perception. > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[FairfieldLife] Re: Point of Consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What do you think of the idea of the Bindu, what MMY refers to as a > point of consciousness originating from Fullness, a seed containing in > a potential state all the forces, dimensions, time, suns, solar > systems, galaxies, galaxy clusters and universe required for the > creation of a single universe. This point of consciousness could be the > origin of the big bang and in this case refers to the origin of a > single soul, creating its' universe and then incarnating into it, each > soul creating its' own universe from this seed of consciousness. At the > end of a souls lifetime, its' created universe then reverts back into > the Bindu and then back into Fullness. > I think what Maharishi says about the Bindu is that it contains all that there is, within all that there is. So there is not a Bindu of singularity inside of that which is not of the same essential nature as the Bindu. Rather, from any point in all that there is, that chosen point can be isolated, the Bindu point, which then is found to also contain all that there is; a point of Infinity, within Infinity. There is nothing which is not Bindu.
