[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
The nature of life is to grow. Order is present everywhere. Life is found in layers. Outer depends on inner. Water the root to enjoy the fruit. Rest and Activity are the steps of progress. Enjoy and accomplish more. Every action has a reaction. Purification leads to progress. The field of all possibilities is the source of all solutions. Thought leads to action. Action leads to achievement. Achievement leads to fulfillment. Knowledge is gained from inside and outside. The world is as we are. Opposites are found together. The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
Oh God, and so it begins...Can you say the word cliche Buck? Make it sound like klee-shay. Oh, and do you possess an original thought? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: The nature of life is to grow. Order is present everywhere. Life is found in layers. Outer depends on inner. Water the root to enjoy the fruit. Rest and Activity are the steps of progress. Enjoy and accomplish more. Every action has a reaction. Purification leads to progress. The field of all possibilities is the source of all solutions. Thought leads to action. Action leads to achievement. Achievement leads to fulfillment. Knowledge is gained from inside and outside. The world is as we are. Opposites are found together. The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
Life is found in layers. Outer depends on inner. Water the root to enjoy the fruit. Rest and Activity are the steps of progress. Enjoy and accomplish more. Every action has a reaction. Purification leads to progress. The field of all possibilities is the source of all solutions. Thought leads to action. Action leads to achievement. Achievement leads to fulfillment. Knowledge is gained from inside and outside. The world is as we are. Opposites are found together. The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
Order is present everywhere. Life is found in layers. Outer depends on inner. Water the root to enjoy the fruit. Rest and Activity are the steps of progress. Enjoy and accomplish more. Every action has a reaction. Purification leads to progress. The field of all possibilities is the source of all solutions. Thought leads to action. Action leads to achievement. Achievement leads to fulfillment. Knowledge is gained from inside and outside. The world is as we are. Opposites are found together. The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
Outer depends on inner. Water the root to enjoy the fruit. Rest and Activity are the steps of progress. Enjoy and accomplish more. Every action has a reaction. Purification leads to progress. The field of all possibilities is the source of all solutions. Thought leads to action. Action leads to achievement. Achievement leads to fulfillment. Knowledge is gained from inside and outside. The world is as we are. Opposites are found together. The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
Opposites are found together. The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
The world is as we are. Opposites are found together. The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
Knowledge is gained from inside and outside. The world is as we are. Opposites are found together. The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
Achievement leads to fulfillment. Knowledge is gained from inside and outside. The world is as we are. Opposites are found together. The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
Action leads to achievement. Achievement leads to fulfillment. Knowledge is gained from inside and outside. The world is as we are. Opposites are found together. The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
Thought leads to action. Action leads to achievement. Achievement leads to fulfillment. Knowledge is gained from inside and outside. The world is as we are. Opposites are found together. The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
The field of all possibilities is the source of all solutions. Thought leads to action. Action leads to achievement. Achievement leads to fulfillment. Knowledge is gained from inside and outside. The world is as we are. Opposites are found together. The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
Purification leads to progress. The field of all possibilities is the source of all solutions. Thought leads to action. Action leads to achievement. Achievement leads to fulfillment. Knowledge is gained from inside and outside. The world is as we are. Opposites are found together. The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Purification leads to progress. Ah I remember: Fundamentals of progress: stability, adaptability, integration, purification, and growth. The field of all possibilities is the source of all solutions. Thought leads to action. Action leads to achievement. Achievement leads to fulfillment. Knowledge is gained from inside and outside. The world is as we are. Opposites are found together. The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
Every action has a reaction. Purification leads to progress. The field of all possibilities is the source of all solutions. Thought leads to action. Action leads to achievement. Achievement leads to fulfillment. Knowledge is gained from inside and outside. The world is as we are. Opposites are found together. The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
Enjoy and accomplish more. Every action has a reaction. Purification leads to progress. The field of all possibilities is the source of all solutions. Thought leads to action. Action leads to achievement. Achievement leads to fulfillment. Knowledge is gained from inside and outside. The world is as we are. Opposites are found together. The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
Rest and Activity are the steps of progress. Enjoy and accomplish more. Every action has a reaction. Purification leads to progress. The field of all possibilities is the source of all solutions. Thought leads to action. Action leads to achievement. Achievement leads to fulfillment. Knowledge is gained from inside and outside. The world is as we are. Opposites are found together. The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles
Water the root to enjoy the fruit. Rest and Activity are the steps of progress. Enjoy and accomplish more. Every action has a reaction. Purification leads to progress. The field of all possibilities is the source of all solutions. Thought leads to action. Action leads to achievement. Achievement leads to fulfillment. Knowledge is gained from inside and outside. The world is as we are. Opposites are found together. The whole is found in every part. The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles of Daily Spiritual Practice
Doesn't spiritual practice involve walking dogs along the beach, park or the streets as a no practice mocking and ridiculing others who actually do spiritual practices? You are going to irritate the heretic now with your dogma. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dharmacentral no_reply@... wrote: Principles of Daily Spiritual Practice By Sri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya The Sanskrit term 'sadhana' means a systematic and disciplined path of spiritual practice under the guidance of a qualified Acharya (Spiritual Teacher). When a person feels called to devote themselves more fully to a systematic spiritual discipline to achieve self-realization and God-realization, they then begin to follow a sadhana practice. Merely having a curious interest in spiritual topics has no meaning unless one is also engaging in a dedicated spiritual practice designed to bring spiritual realization to life. Sadhana, thus, represents the very beginning of meaningful spiritual pursuit. The following is a collection of practical, scripturally-based, guidelines from the teachings of Sanatana Dharma that will help us to more fully develop our innate spiritual potential. Sadhana, or spiritual practice, must be performed regularly with sincerity, humility, openness, and determination. Just as we all perform our daily routines of eating, sleeping, and bathing without fail, similarly we should practice our daily spiritual sadhana without fail to refine ourselves and to advance in spiritual life. We should monitor our progress every day by asking ourselves if today we have improved ourselves and come closer to God. By following a daily spiritual practice under the guidance of Sri Guru, we can continuously deepen our experience and realization of the Divine VISIT HERE TO READ THE REST OF THIS INFORMATIVE ARTICLE: http://www.dharmacentral.com/forum/content.php?36-Daily-Sadhana Please forward this information to all sincere spiritual seekers. Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles of Daily Spiritual Practice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dharmacentral no_reply@... wrote: Principles of Daily Spiritual Practice By Sri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya The Sanskrit term 'sadhana' means a systematic and disciplined path of spiritual practice under the guidance of a qualified Acharya (Spiritual Teacher). TM? Is TM enough? When a person feels called to devote themselves more fully to a systematic spiritual discipline to achieve self-realization and God-realization, they then begin to follow a sadhana practice. Like, the daily reading of FairfieldLife Merely having a curious interest in spiritual topics has no meaning unless one is also engaging in a dedicated spiritual practice designed to bring spiritual realization to life. Sadhana, thus, represents the very beginning of meaningful spiritual pursuit. Mindful FairfieldLife The following is a collection of practical, scripturally-based, guidelines from the teachings of Sanatana Dharma that will help us to more fully develop our innate spiritual potential. Sadhana, or spiritual practice, must be performed regularly with sincerity, humility, openness, and determination. Just as we all perform our daily routines of eating, sleeping, and bathing without fail, similarly we should practice our daily spiritual sadhana without fail to refine ourselves and to advance in spiritual life. We should monitor our progress every day by asking ourselves if today we have improved ourselves and come closer to God. The Living FairfieldLife By following a daily spiritual practice under the guidance of our FaifieldLife guidelines and moderators, we can continuously deepen our experience and realization of the Divine VISIT HERE TO READ THE REST OF THIS INFORMATIVE ARTICLE: http://www.dharmacentral.com/forum/content.php?36-Daily-Sadhana Please forward this information to all sincere spiritual seekers. Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jesus dude, get a grip! Oh yeah, should we mention the belief that crop circles are made by aliens instead of some English lads with a few pints in them? Please, Nabs, back on the meds my friend. English lads did this with a few pints in them ? Get a grip ! http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/080808/080808.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: mixing instructions? If Maharishi's system of instruction and emphasis on effortlessness is valuable wouldn't you want all teachers to use it? No. Different Masters, different strokes. Rich Archer uses Maharishi's procedures for the use of mantras without his own Guru, Amma's consent and approval. He never asked Her if that is OK. He didn't bother, instead infusing the situation with his own ego thus creating a mess his Guru certainly did not ask for. He certainly has a nerve, I'll give him that. Indeed he does. Imagine, doing something without asking your Master's permission. Guess that possibility has never occurred to Nabby. You know who else it never occurs to? Slaves. And disciples. Same thing. Or do you see a difference? I don't. Both slaves and 'disciples' fawn all over their Massa's and do exactly what they are told to do. Neither gets paid for it. Neither (if TM is any indication) gets any benefit for it. The only difference I see is that slaves have an excuse for acting like slaves. :-) I've mentioned this before. Those that pick a Teacher and then goes against this person's wish has a relatively easy life today because life on earth now is so crucial, it being very very important for Masters to invite as many as possible on board to try to save the situation. Nabby, is it possible that your view of what teachers are like, let alone Masters, is merely a product of your own lack of experience and lack of education? You seem to have bought what the only two Massas you've ever dealt with told you completely -- namely that the proper relationship of teacher to student is one of slave owner to slave. You (as student) DO WHAT YOU'RE TOLD and never even *think* of thinking for yourself. Right? Well, that's not how it works in ALL teacher- student relationships. Many of them from more sane traditions than TM's or Benny Hill's (sorry, Benny Creme's) assume that the student has a mind of his own and a will of his own, and give him the absolute right to exercise either. For example, there is that quote of Buddha's that graces the home page of the forum you somehow can't bring yourself to leave: Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. In your slave mindset you probably consider this heretical. You're more a fan of turning your mind and your life over to your Massa, and allowing him or her to run things from there on out. On the other hand, you seem attracted to Fairfield Life, and can't seem to go more than a few days without posting here. Could it possibly be that part of you is still *attracted* to those who still have minds of their own, and to those who have the courage you lack, and do what *they* feel is best in their lives, not what someone tells them to do? Could it possibly be that all your barbs are nothing more than *envy*? Could it possibly be that you -- as an outcast from the TM movement because you have pub- licly admitted that you've seen Amma and that you are involved with Benny Hill's (oops...there I go again...sorry...Benny Creme's) teachings, are here trying to do research to figure out how to handle your life now that YOU wouldn't be allowed within 100 feet of any official TM building? We shall endeavor to be good role models for you, Nabby, and to show you that there IS life after slavery, and that even slaves who seem to have had the ability to think trained out of them as the result of decades of indoctrination can -- with courage, dedication, and hard work -- regrow their ability to be think for themselves. Not to mention regrowing those two other things you allowed to atrophy along with your mind...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Oh yeah, should we mention the belief that crop circles are made by aliens instead of some English lads with a few pints in them? Please, Nabs, back on the meds my friend. Not inconceivable they're made by English lads (at least the ones in England), but if so they're using advanced technological equipment, and nobody so far has been able to suggest what that equipment might be. But if Peter has ever looked at photos of some of the more complex circles and still thinks they were made by people with a few pints in them, it's he who needs to go back on his meds.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: snip Oh yeah, should we mention the belief that crop circles are made by aliens instead of some English lads with a few pints in them? Please, Nabs, back on the meds my friend. Not inconceivable they're made by English lads (at least the ones in England), but if so they're using advanced technological equipment, and nobody so far has been able to suggest what that equipment might be. But if Peter has ever looked at photos of some of the more complex circles and still thinks they were made by people with a few pints in them, it's he who needs to go back on his meds. Or you could lend him some of yours.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: snip Oh yeah, should we mention the belief that crop circles are made by aliens instead of some English lads with a few pints in them? Please, Nabs, back on the meds my friend. Not inconceivable they're made by English lads (at least the ones in England), but if so they're using advanced technological equipment, and nobody so far has been able to suggest what that equipment might be. But if Peter has ever looked at photos of some of the more complex circles and still thinks they were made by people with a few pints in them, it's he who needs to go back on his meds. Or you could lend him some of yours. Pity you have no brains to accompany your rapier-like wit. Maybe if you did, you'd be able to score a point every once in a while.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend sent me this. Some might find the booklets useful: my wife samarpana and i find these little free booklets very useful. i hesitate to share these on the amma forum and caution that : it is best to practice spiritual principles oneself rather than share them with others as solutions for their problems. it seems, that even amma quotes are taking a risk ? Thanks for posting this Rich, immensely benefitial, no doubt. Did you also check these people's Amma's meditation with the cheking- skills you learned while with Maharishi thus making more of a muddle of everything ?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice !
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 10:58 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend sent me this. Some might find the booklets useful: my wife samarpana and i find these little free booklets very useful. i hesitate to share these on the amma forum and caution that : it is best to practice spiritual principles oneself rather than share them with others as solutions for their problems. it seems, that even amma quotes are taking a risk ? Thanks for posting this Rich, immensely benefitial, no doubt. Did you also check these people's Amma's meditation with the cheking- skills you learned while with Maharishi thus making more of a muddle of everything ? The guy is an old TM teacher. Don't know about his wife.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 10:58 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: A friend sent me this. Some might find the booklets useful: my wife samarpana and i find these little free booklets very useful. i hesitate to share these on the amma forum and caution that : it is best to practice spiritual principles oneself rather than share them with others as solutions for their problems. it seems, that even amma quotes are taking a risk ? Thanks for posting this Rich, immensely benefitial, no doubt. Did you also check these people's Amma's meditation with the cheking- skills you learned while with Maharishi thus making more of a muddle of everything ? The guy is an old TM teacher. Don't know about his wife. Aha. Is he also, like you, mixing instruction from different Teachers without their blessing ?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice !
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 11:15 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! The guy is an old TM teacher. Don't know about his wife. Aha. Is he also, like you, mixing instruction from different Teachers without their blessing ? As far as I know, he's not a Benjamin Creme devotee.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! The guy is an old TM teacher. Don't know about his wife. Aha. Is he also, like you, mixing instruction from different Teachers without their blessing ? As far as I know, he's not a Benjamin Creme devotee. You are avoiding the question. Not surprising really as I gather you realize you are in deep waters on this issue of mixing instructions.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! The guy is an old TM teacher. Don't know about his wife. Aha. Is he also, like you, mixing instruction from different Teachers without their blessing ? As far as I know, he's not a Benjamin Creme devotee. You are avoiding the question. Not surprising really as I gather you realize you are in deep waters on this issue of mixing instructions. mixing instructions? If Maharishi's system of instruction and emphasis on effortlessness is valuable wouldn't you want all teachers to use it? Wouldn't that be part of the revival of this ancient knowledge? Or is the branding of trademarked TM and its conglomerate subsidiaries the only important thing? There are no deep waters, the tyranny of WYMS is over and if you don't care about entering the moldy golden domes of pure pretension, there is no carrot or stick left. A little good will towards other systems would go a long way toward rehabbing the movement's image. I don't see how you can tow such an old school line with your interest in Creme. You are also a movement renegade whether you know it or not Nabby.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice !
What is WYMS? ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Sat, 8/9/08, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 1:11 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! The guy is an old TM teacher. Don't know about his wife. Aha. Is he also, like you, mixing instruction from different Teachers without their blessing ? As far as I know, he's not a Benjamin Creme devotee. You are avoiding the question. Not surprising really as I gather you realize you are in deep waters on this issue of mixing instructions. mixing instructions? If Maharishi's system of instruction and emphasis on effortlessness is valuable wouldn't you want all teachers to use it? Wouldn't that be part of the revival of this ancient knowledge? Or is the branding of trademarked TM and its conglomerate subsidiaries the only important thing? There are no deep waters, the tyranny of WYMS is over and if you don't care about entering the moldy golden domes of pure pretension, there is no carrot or stick left. A little good will towards other systems would go a long way toward rehabbing the movement's image. I don't see how you can tow such an old school line with your interest in Creme. You are also a movement renegade whether you know it or not Nabby. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is WYMS? World Youth Movement. The German cult within a cult who managed security around Maharishi. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Sat, 8/9/08, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 1:11 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! The guy is an old TM teacher. Don't know about his wife. Aha. Is he also, like you, mixing instruction from different Teachers without their blessing ? As far as I know, he's not a Benjamin Creme devotee. You are avoiding the question. Not surprising really as I gather you realize you are in deep waters on this issue of mixing instructions. mixing instructions? If Maharishi's system of instruction and emphasis on effortlessness is valuable wouldn't you want all teachers to use it? Wouldn't that be part of the revival of this ancient knowledge? Or is the branding of trademarked TM and its conglomerate subsidiaries the only important thing? There are no deep waters, the tyranny of WYMS is over and if you don't care about entering the moldy golden domes of pure pretension, there is no carrot or stick left. A little good will towards other systems would go a long way toward rehabbing the movement's image. I don't see how you can tow such an old school line with your interest in Creme. You are also a movement renegade whether you know it or not Nabby. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! The guy is an old TM teacher. Don't know about his wife. Aha. Is he also, like you, mixing instruction from different Teachers without their blessing ? As far as I know, he's not a Benjamin Creme devotee. You are avoiding the question. Not surprising really as I gather you realize you are in deep waters on this issue of mixing instructions. mixing instructions? If Maharishi's system of instruction and emphasis on effortlessness is valuable wouldn't you want all teachers to use it? No. Different Masters, different strokes. Rich Archer uses Maharishi's procedures for the use of mantras without his own Guru, Amma's consent and approval. He never asked Her if that is OK. He didn't bother, instead infusing the situation with his own ego thus creating a mess his Guru certainly did not ask for. He certainly has a nerve, I'll give him that. Wouldn't that be part of the revival of this ancient knowledge? Or is the branding of trademarked TM and its conglomerate subsidiaries the only important thing? There are no deep waters, the tyranny of WYMS is over and if you don't care about entering the moldy golden domes of pure pretension, there is no carrot or stick left. A little good will towards other systems would go a long way toward rehabbing the movement's image. I beg to disagree. What the world need now is coherence, not fellows like Rich running around creating a mess and mishmash of different traditions. I don't see how you can tow such an old school line with your interest in Creme. You are also a movement renegade whether you know it or not Nabby. My standing in the Movement is excellent thank you very much. I have a standing invitation to rejoin Purusha at any moment if I so wish. There are no differences between what Mr. Creme is claiming regarding the Reappearance of the Masters of Wisdom, including one of the most senior Masters, our Guru Dev, in this Age and the knowlegde Maharishi so tierlessly, happily and generously exposed. If you bothered to study Theosophy and compared your SCI-notes this would become evidently obvious even to you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice !
mixing instructions? If Maharishi's system of instruction and emphasis on effortlessness is valuable wouldn't you want all teachers to use it? No. Different Masters, different strokes. Rich Archer uses Maharishi's procedures for the use of mantras without his own Guru, Amma's consent and approval. He never asked Her if that is OK. He didn't bother, instead infusing the situation with his own ego thus creating a mess his Guru certainly did not ask for. He certainly has a nerve, I'll give him that. Indeed he does. Imagine, doing something without asking your Master's permission. Guess that possibility has never occurred to Nabby. You know who else it never occurs to? Slaves.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice !
If you bothered to study Theosophy and compared your SCI-notes this would become evidently obvious even to you. I did study all that nonsense. I especially like the part about black people coming from Lumeria and developing the physical body, Asians coming from Atlantis and developing the physical body, and the Aryans, the most highly developed, with the ability to develop the spiritual body, you know, the basis of Nazi racism. I used to chase Charlie Lutz around all the time bugging him about the chains and rounds and how they relate to the yugas. I think the Euro movement must be a lot more forgiving of such interests than the US one. But I was wrong then and am sorry to have slandered your good standing with the Euro movement. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! The guy is an old TM teacher. Don't know about his wife. Aha. Is he also, like you, mixing instruction from different Teachers without their blessing ? As far as I know, he's not a Benjamin Creme devotee. You are avoiding the question. Not surprising really as I gather you realize you are in deep waters on this issue of mixing instructions. mixing instructions? If Maharishi's system of instruction and emphasis on effortlessness is valuable wouldn't you want all teachers to use it? No. Different Masters, different strokes. Rich Archer uses Maharishi's procedures for the use of mantras without his own Guru, Amma's consent and approval. He never asked Her if that is OK. He didn't bother, instead infusing the situation with his own ego thus creating a mess his Guru certainly did not ask for. He certainly has a nerve, I'll give him that. Wouldn't that be part of the revival of this ancient knowledge? Or is the branding of trademarked TM and its conglomerate subsidiaries the only important thing? There are no deep waters, the tyranny of WYMS is over and if you don't care about entering the moldy golden domes of pure pretension, there is no carrot or stick left. A little good will towards other systems would go a long way toward rehabbing the movement's image. I beg to disagree. What the world need now is coherence, not fellows like Rich running around creating a mess and mishmash of different traditions. I don't see how you can tow such an old school line with your interest in Creme. You are also a movement renegade whether you know it or not Nabby. My standing in the Movement is excellent thank you very much. I have a standing invitation to rejoin Purusha at any moment if I so wish. There are no differences between what Mr. Creme is claiming regarding the Reappearance of the Masters of Wisdom, including one of the most senior Masters, our Guru Dev, in this Age and the knowlegde Maharishi so tierlessly, happily and generously exposed. If you bothered to study Theosophy and compared your SCI-notes this would become evidently obvious even to you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mixing instructions? If Maharishi's system of instruction and emphasis on effortlessness is valuable wouldn't you want all teachers to use it? No. Different Masters, different strokes. Rich Archer uses Maharishi's procedures for the use of mantras without his own Guru, Amma's consent and approval. He never asked Her if that is OK. He didn't bother, instead infusing the situation with his own ego thus creating a mess his Guru certainly did not ask for. He certainly has a nerve, I'll give him that. Indeed he does. Imagine, doing something without asking your Master's permission. Guess that possibility has never occurred to Nabby. You know who else it never occurs to? Slaves. And disciples. I've mentioned this before. Those that pick a Teacher and then goes against this person's wish has a relatively easy life today because life on earth now is so crucial, it being very very important for Masters to invite as many as possible on board to try to save the situation. My take is that fellows like Rich and the Turk will have great difficulties finding anyone anywhere that wants to give them instruction next time around simply because they have prooven beyond any doubt that they are not to be trusted. ;-)
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You are avoiding the question. Not surprising really as I gather you realize you are in deep waters on this issue of mixing instructions. I look at it this way. In the early 70s, a spiritual seeker gets his instruction in TM by a green TM teacher in his early 20s and faithfully meditates twice a day every day. Years later, the faithful meditator meets the guru himself on some course in Europe and is instructed by the guru to do his daily sadhana differently. The faithful meditator does not say No, my guru as I have already received instruction by a qualified representative of the Transcendental Meditation Program ® as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and could never even consider varying from that instruction (this reminds me of the guy in Fairfield who said he would not learn the sidhis program because MMY told him his program was to meditate for one hour at a time and he felt he could not change that). Of course, the faithful meditator is wisely and eagerly open to new instruction, because guru trumps green TM instructor in his 20s any day. Years later, the faithful meditator meets a Divine Mother atavar Herself on one of Her annual summer tours to the US and is instructed by the Divine Mother avatar Herself to do his daily sadhana differently. The *smart* meditator does not say No, Divine Mother, as I have already received instruction by a guru who made some difference in my life but never delivered even three percent of what was promised to me after 25 years of sadhana... I trust you can fill in the rest. Here's a hint: avatar trumps guru trumps green TM instructor in his 20s, any day. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Sat, 8/9/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 12:49 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! The guy is an old TM teacher. Don't know about his wife. Aha. Is he also, like you, mixing instruction from different Teachers without their blessing ? As far as I know, he's not a Benjamin Creme devotee. You are avoiding the question. Not surprising really as I gather you realize you are in deep waters on this issue of mixing instructions. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 11:49 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! The guy is an old TM teacher. Don't know about his wife. Aha. Is he also, like you, mixing instruction from different Teachers without their blessing ? As far as I know, he's not a Benjamin Creme devotee. You are avoiding the question. Not surprising really as I gather you realize you are in deep waters on this issue of mixing instructions. Glug, glug
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You are avoiding the question. Not surprising really as I gather you realize you are in deep waters on this issue of mixing instructions. The main thing is to make sure teachers never feel empowered to make such a decision for themselves. By now Rick is, if nothing else, and EXPERT meditator, having practiced for decades and taught hundreds, thousands of people. I suspect he might be qualified to guide someone in their practice. He doesn't need mommy's permission. I look at it this way. In the early 70s, a spiritual seeker gets his instruction in TM by a green TM teacher in his early 20s and faithfully meditates twice a day every day. Years later, the faithful meditator meets the guru himself on some course in Europe and is instructed by the guru to do his daily sadhana differently. The faithful meditator does not say No, my guru as I have already received instruction by a qualified representative of the Transcendental Meditation Program ® as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and could never even consider varying from that instruction (this reminds me of the guy in Fairfield who said he would not learn the sidhis program because MMY told him his program was to meditate for one hour at a time and he felt he could not change that). Of course, the faithful meditator is wisely and eagerly open to new instruction, because guru trumps green TM instructor in his 20s any day. Years later, the faithful meditator meets a Divine Mother atavar Herself on one of Her annual summer tours to the US and is instructed by the Divine Mother avatar Herself to do his daily sadhana differently. The *smart* meditator does not say No, Divine Mother, as I have already received instruction by a guru who made some difference in my life but never delivered even three percent of what was promised to me after 25 years of sadhana... I trust you can fill in the rest. Here's a hint: avatar trumps guru trumps green TM instructor in his 20s, any day. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Sat, 8/9/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 12:49 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! The guy is an old TM teacher. Don't know about his wife. Aha. Is he also, like you, mixing instruction from different Teachers without their blessing ? As far as I know, he's not a Benjamin Creme devotee. You are avoiding the question. Not surprising really as I gather you realize you are in deep waters on this issue of mixing instructions. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:06 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! My take is that fellows like Rich and the Turk will have great difficulties finding anyone anywhere that wants to give them instruction next time around simply because they have prooven beyond any doubt that they are not to be trusted. Gurus should be trustworthy as much as disciples should be trusted. I was the good little disciple for over 30 years, during which time Maharishi was doing stuff that would have caused his movement to crash and burn, had it been publically exposed.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I trust you can fill in the rest. Here's a hint: avatar trumps guru trumps green TM instructor in his 20s, any day. Hint; According to Benjamin Creme there are no female Avatars in incarnation at this time in history. The last he lists is ShriShri Ananda Mayi Ma. If you are referring to Amma I hold her in high esteem indeed, having met Her. But Avatar ? Why don't you ask Her about it...
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snip Hint; According to Benjamin Creme there are no female Avatars in incarnation at this time in history. The last he lists is ShriShri Ananda Mayi Ma. Ananda Mayi Ma, the Adult diaper wearing saint. If you are referring to Amma I hold her in high esteem indeed, having met Her. But Avatar ? Why don't you ask Her about it...
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:31 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I trust you can fill in the rest. Here's a hint: avatar trumps guru trumps green TM instructor in his 20s, any day. Hint; According to Benjamin Creme What does he know? What makes him an authority? If you are referring to Amma I hold her in high esteem indeed, having met Her. But Avatar ? Why don't you ask Her about it... She doesn't make any claims.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:06 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! My take is that fellows like Rich and the Turk will have great difficulties finding anyone anywhere that wants to give them instruction next time around simply because they have prooven beyond any doubt that they are not to be trusted. Gurus should be trustworthy as much as disciples should be trusted. Then why have you chosen to be unstrustworthy both towards Maharishi and now towards Amma ? Where, in your opinion, will it take you ? Rich Archer in a nutshell: all rumours, no beef. So many americans contributing towards the growth of coherence in that country and the world at large. It makes me proud to know that I know some of those great american persons. Friendly, intelligent, simple souls doing quantumleaps on the ladder of evolution thanks to Maharishi's generosity. Why ? Because they where ready, their time had come. And then the souls doing their best to create a mess, in this case Rich, obviously. It's like watching a fascinating play at the Theatre; you somehow know you have seen this play before !
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I think the Euro movement must be a lot more forgiving of such interests than the US one. But I was wrong then and am sorry to have slandered your good standing with the Euro movement. Bingo! On one of my stays on the MUM campus, a sidha from Europe got accepted onto European Purusha at the same time that the university was pulling it's hair out trying to get him tossed out of his room. His trangressions were that he cooked in his room and he did not go to the dome often enough to keep the CCP course office happy. At one time, the university put a lock on his door, but that didn't stop him from getting back inside. How easy it was to get onto European Purusha became an inside joke with us. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Sat, 8/9/08, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:05 PM If you bothered to study Theosophy and compared your SCI-notes this would become evidently obvious even to you. I did study all that nonsense. I especially like the part about black people coming from Lumeria and developing the physical body, Asians coming from Atlantis and developing the physical body, and the Aryans, the most highly developed, with the ability to develop the spiritual body, you know, the basis of Nazi racism. I used to chase Charlie Lutz around all the time bugging him about the chains and rounds and how they relate to the yugas. I think the Euro movement must be a lot more forgiving of such interests than the US one. But I was wrong then and am sorry to have slandered your good standing with the Euro movement. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! The guy is an old TM teacher. Don't know about his wife. Aha. Is he also, like you, mixing instruction from different Teachers without their blessing ? As far as I know, he's not a Benjamin Creme devotee. You are avoiding the question. Not surprising really as I gather you realize you are in deep waters on this issue of mixing instructions. mixing instructions? If Maharishi's system of instruction and emphasis on effortlessness is valuable wouldn't you want all teachers to use it? No. Different Masters, different strokes. Rich Archer uses Maharishi's procedures for the use of mantras without his own Guru, Amma's consent and approval. He never asked Her if that is OK. He didn't bother, instead infusing the situation with his own ego thus creating a mess his Guru certainly did not ask for. He certainly has a nerve, I'll give him that. Wouldn't that be part of the revival of this ancient knowledge? Or is the branding of trademarked TM and its conglomerate subsidiaries the only important thing? There are no deep waters, the tyranny of WYMS is over and if you don't care about entering the moldy golden domes of pure pretension, there is no carrot or stick left. A little good will towards other systems would go a long way toward rehabbing the movement's image. I beg to disagree. What the world need now is coherence, not fellows like Rich running around creating a mess and mishmash of different traditions. I don't see how you can tow such an old school line with your interest in Creme. You are also a movement renegade whether you know it or not Nabby. My standing in the Movement is excellent thank you very much. I have a standing invitation to rejoin Purusha at any moment if I so wish. There are no differences between what Mr. Creme is claiming regarding the Reappearance of the Masters of Wisdom, including one of the most senior Masters, our Guru Dev, in this Age and the knowlegde Maharishi so tierlessly, happily and generously exposed. If you bothered to study Theosophy and compared your SCI-notes this would become evidently obvious even to you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
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One of my spiritual teachers says Amma is an avatar and that is good enough for me. Mother Meera is also a woman avatar, according to this teacher. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:44 PM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:31 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I trust you can fill in the rest. Here's a hint: avatar trumps guru trumps green TM instructor in his 20s, any day. Hint; According to Benjamin Creme What does he know? What makes him an authority? If you are referring to Amma I hold her in high esteem indeed, having met Her. But Avatar ? Why don't you ask Her about it... She doesn’t make any claims.
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Rich Archer in a nutshell: all rumours, no beef. Yeah, Rich, where's the beef? ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Sat, 8/9/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 3:02 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:06 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! My take is that fellows like Rich and the Turk will have great difficulties finding anyone anywhere that wants to give them instruction next time around simply because they have prooven beyond any doubt that they are not to be trusted. Gurus should be trustworthy as much as disciples should be trusted. Then why have you chosen to be unstrustworthy both towards Maharishi and now towards Amma ? Where, in your opinion, will it take you ? Rich Archer in a nutshell: all rumours, no beef. So many americans contributing towards the growth of coherence in that country and the world at large. It makes me proud to know that I know some of those great american persons. Friendly, intelligent, simple souls doing quantumleaps on the ladder of evolution thanks to Maharishi's generosity. Why ? Because they where ready, their time had come. And then the souls doing their best to create a mess, in this case Rich, obviously. It's like watching a fascinating play at the Theatre; you somehow know you have seen this play before ! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
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--- On Sat, 8/9/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 3:02 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:06 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! My take is that fellows like Rich and the Turk will have great difficulties finding anyone anywhere that wants to give them instruction next time around simply because they have prooven beyond any doubt that they are not to be trusted. Gurus should be trustworthy as much as disciples should be trusted. Then why have you chosen to be unstrustworthy both towards Maharishi and now towards Amma ? Where, in your opinion, will it take you ? Rich Archer in a nutshell: all rumours, no beef. So many americans contributing towards the growth of coherence in that country and the world at large. It makes me proud to know that I know some of those great american persons. Friendly, intelligent, simple souls doing quantumleaps on the ladder of evolution thanks to Maharishi's generosity. Why ? Because they where ready, their time had come. And then the souls doing their best to create a mess, in this case Rich, obviously. It's like watching a fascinating play at the Theatre; you somehow know you have seen this play before ! Nabs, you are an amazingly wonderful asshole of a soul. Did you know that? I love how you sit back in judgement and hold everyone accountable to your own criteria of spiritual correctness. You don't know anything, you moron. Your intellect is so sharp you actually believe in a Master of Masters who for some bizarre reason speaks through an English twit and shows his presence by frost crosses on windows. Jesus dude, get a grip! Oh yeah, should we mention the belief that crop circles are made by aliens instead of some English lads with a few pints in them? Please, Nabs, back on the meds my friend. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
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--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:44 PM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:31 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Principles to practice ! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I trust you can fill in the rest. Here's a hint: avatar trumps guru trumps green TM instructor in his 20s, any day. Hint; According to Benjamin Creme What does he know? What makes him an authority? If you are referring to Amma I hold her in high esteem indeed, having met Her. But Avatar ? Why don't you ask Her about it... She doesn’t make any claims.Yeah, an avatar that never shows up except in one's imagination. That way they are kept save in the realm of fantasy.
