[FairfieldLife] Re: Pureview Windoze phoney??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: snip To be honest, I've been very happy with Windows 7. Me too (although my needs are a lot less demanding than yours). I do keep a lot of apps open at the same time, but it's all web browsers, email clients, and other things that don't need much computing horsepower. I don't play computer games, edit video, or other things that are processor intensive. My computer needs are pretty simple: a fanless, completely silent tower with a video card that can drive two monitors. I will probably stick with Win 7 for a similarly long time. How long will Microsoft support it? I don't know, but even now, they're still supporting XP. We have a couple aged 13 XP laptops that we use as Internet radios in the kitchen and living room, and they will continue to be useful long after Microsoft stops supporting XP. My guess is that there will be another 8 years of Win 7 support after the release of Win 8.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pureview Windoze phoney??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 06/16/2012 03:00 PM, cardemaister wrote: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=384977931549858set=a.109142489133405.4548.100686616645659type=1 http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/17/it-is-succeed-or-die-for-nokia-observers-say/ They fell asleep at the wheel and rested on their laurels. Not good enough in today cut-throat tech world. Dude, haven't you heard? By 2016, Windows Phone will top iOS in market share! http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericsavitz/2012/06/06/windows-phone-to-top-ios-market-share-by-2016-idc-says/ http://tinyurl.com/725wak2 The world will be clamoring to get their hands on a Windows Phone, and they'll also be enthusiastically upgrading to Windows 8 so that their PCs will look just like their phones. Nokia/MSFT über alles, baby! Nokia Corp. was born, as a groundwood pulp mill, in my home town (Tampere, Grand Duchy of Finland, belonging to Russia) May 12th 1865. So, there's a possibility it'll be defunct within a couple of months or even weeks, because of its 5th Saturn Return... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pureview Windoze phoney??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: I have a Windows 7 64-bit machine and a Vista laptop. After using Linux (Ubuntu) for several years as my main machine I can't stand how clunky and stupid Windows is. I don't have the patience for the Linux learning curve, and its lack of support for mainstream hardware renders it completely useless crippleware for my needs. E.g., I have a Slingbox, and it is not supported under Linux. Recently, I bought a new printer for the first time since 1998, a LaserJet Pro 400 Color, and it occurred to me that I could use it with my old Canon flatbed scanner to replace our ancient Canon personal copier, which had ceased making decent quality copies. I hadn't used the scanner in ages, but the Canon website had both the Win 7 driver and software for it, and the old Dell D610 laptop that runs the Post Count script is now the brains of our color laser copier. It works perfectly: push the copy button on the front of the scanner, and the network printer spits out the copy. I just looked, and Canon has no Linux support at all for my scanner. In the meantime what can we do to coordinate a chat room time? I see people drop by when no one else is around. It would be a hoot to have a full fledge FFL chat! Ugh... I hate real-time chat. You're on your own with that one.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pureview Windoze phoney??
On 06/18/2012 07:26 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: I have a Windows 7 64-bit machine and a Vista laptop. After using Linux (Ubuntu) for several years as my main machine I can't stand how clunky and stupid Windows is. I don't have the patience for the Linux learning curve, and its lack of support for mainstream hardware renders it completely useless crippleware for my needs. E.g., I have a Slingbox, and it is not supported under Linux. Recently, I bought a new printer for the first time since 1998, a LaserJet Pro 400 Color, and it occurred to me that I could use it with my old Canon flatbed scanner to replace our ancient Canon personal copier, which had ceased making decent quality copies. I hadn't used the scanner in ages, but the Canon website had both the Win 7 driver and software for it, and the old Dell D610 laptop that runs the Post Count script is now the brains of our color laser copier. It works perfectly: push the copy button on the front of the scanner, and the network printer spits out the copy. I just looked, and Canon has no Linux support at all for my scanner. In the meantime what can we do to coordinate a chat room time? I see people drop by when no one else is around. It would be a hoot to have a full fledge FFL chat! Ugh... I hate real-time chat. You're on your own with that one. I'm familiar with your patience having helped you install the Post Count. :-D There isn't much of a learning curve anymore for Linux. It's just another GUI. Drivers can be found but then that's why I use HP stuff because they sell Linux servers so they have drivers. But I don't like their ink (ch)eating printers. There a scanner on the printer too which is also a copier and is wifi and works with Android (they made an Android driver and app). AND ... Windows is getting less and less user friendly and sometimes requires some rather tech knowledge dependent solutions. Anyone who wants to check out Linux can put a persistent install on a memory card which will work much faster than running it off a CD or DVD though not as fast as when installed on a computer. Of course setting this up is a bit geeky but not too much so. http://linuxmint.com/ And for putting it on a USB stick: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ Enjoy! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pureview Windoze phoney??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 06/16/2012 03:00 PM, cardemaister wrote: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=384977931549858set=a.109142489133405.4548.100686616645659type=1 http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/17/it-is-succeed-or-die-for-nokia-observers-say/ They fell asleep at the wheel and rested on their laurels. Not good enough in today cut-throat tech world. Dude, haven't you heard? By 2016, Windows Phone will top iOS in market share! http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericsavitz/2012/06/06/windows-phone-to-top-ios-market-share-by-2016-idc-says/ http://tinyurl.com/725wak2 The world will be clamoring to get their hands on a Windows Phone, and they'll also be enthusiastically upgrading to Windows 8 so that their PCs will look just like their phones. Nokia/MSFT über alles, baby!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pureview Windoze phoney??
On 06/17/2012 03:13 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 06/16/2012 03:00 PM, cardemaister wrote: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=384977931549858set=a.109142489133405.4548.100686616645659type=1 http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/17/it-is-succeed-or-die-for-nokia-observers-say/ They fell asleep at the wheel and rested on their laurels. Not good enough in today cut-throat tech world. Dude, haven't you heard? By 2016, Windows Phone will top iOS in market share! http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericsavitz/2012/06/06/windows-phone-to-top-ios-market-share-by-2016-idc-says/ http://tinyurl.com/725wak2 The world will be clamoring to get their hands on a Windows Phone, and they'll also be enthusiastically upgrading to Windows 8 so that their PCs will look just like their phones. Nokia/MSFT über alles, baby! And of course with 10 or more daily patches to plug security holes. I think that Microsoft is on the way down. BTW, shouldn't the guvmint be looking into payola in the tech journalism industry?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pureview Windoze phoney??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 06/17/2012 03:13 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: On 06/16/2012 03:00 PM, cardemaister wrote: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=384977931549858set=a.109142489133405.4548.100686616645659type=1 http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/17/it-is-succeed-or-die-for-nokia-observers-say/ They fell asleep at the wheel and rested on their laurels. Not good enough in today cut-throat tech world. Dude, haven't you heard? By 2016, Windows Phone will top iOS in market share! http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericsavitz/2012/06/06/windows-phone-to-top-ios-market-share-by-2016-idc-says/ http://tinyurl.com/725wak2 The world will be clamoring to get their hands on a Windows Phone, and they'll also be enthusiastically upgrading to Windows 8 so that their PCs will look just like their phones. Nokia/MSFT über alles, baby! And of course with 10 or more daily patches to plug security holes. I think that Microsoft is on the way down. To be honest, I've been very happy with Windows 7. But, from what I've read, people who have tried the Windows 8 preview generally dislike the new desktop environment. It sounds like Win 8 will be Vista 2.0. I skipped Vista and stuck with XP until just a couple years ago, when my hard drive failed, and I upgraded to a solid state drive and Win 7. I will probably stick with Win 7 for a similarly long time.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pureview Windoze phoney??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: snip To be honest, I've been very happy with Windows 7. Me too (although my needs are a lot less demanding than yours). Some minor annoyances (the idiot Libraries) but some great advantages. And my legacy programs run just fine on it. But, from what I've read, people who have tried the Windows 8 preview generally dislike the new desktop environment. It sounds like Win 8 will be Vista 2.0. I skipped Vista and stuck with XP until just a couple years ago, when my hard drive failed, and I upgraded to a solid state drive and Win 7. Me too, except my XP machine's motherboard failed (I think) in October of last year, and the hard drive on my new Win7 machine isn't solid-state. I will probably stick with Win 7 for a similarly long time. How long will Microsoft support it?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pureview Windoze phoney??
On 06/17/2012 05:28 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 06/17/2012 03:13 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: On 06/16/2012 03:00 PM, cardemaister wrote: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=384977931549858set=a.109142489133405.4548.100686616645659type=1 http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/17/it-is-succeed-or-die-for-nokia-observers-say/ They fell asleep at the wheel and rested on their laurels. Not good enough in today cut-throat tech world. Dude, haven't you heard? By 2016, Windows Phone will top iOS in market share! http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericsavitz/2012/06/06/windows-phone-to-top-ios-market-share-by-2016-idc-says/ http://tinyurl.com/725wak2 The world will be clamoring to get their hands on a Windows Phone, and they'll also be enthusiastically upgrading to Windows 8 so that their PCs will look just like their phones. Nokia/MSFT über alles, baby! And of course with 10 or more daily patches to plug security holes. I think that Microsoft is on the way down. To be honest, I've been very happy with Windows 7. But, from what I've read, people who have tried the Windows 8 preview generally dislike the new desktop environment. It sounds like Win 8 will be Vista 2.0. I skipped Vista and stuck with XP until just a couple years ago, when my hard drive failed, and I upgraded to a solid state drive and Win 7. I will probably stick with Win 7 for a similarly long time. I have a Windows 7 64-bit machine and a Vista laptop. After using Linux (Ubuntu) for several years as my main machine I can't stand how clunky and stupid Windows is. See they feel they need to do things differently or be accused of copying Linux (or UNIX). When I first got the Windows 7 machine it booted in under a minute and now it takes around 3 and not really ready except at the 5 minute. Now if you want to go in and hassle with startups which are sometimes VERY tricky to remove one can reduce that startup time. But why should we need to? This Linux machine is still booting at around 15 seconds a good year after I built it (actually assemble would be the proper word). And it is a 64-bit machine too and cost me $350 to assemble (1 TB drive and 4 GB memory, 3 cores). Microsoft has been getting a lot of heat for not doing something about these slow bootups. They seem to be stuck in some kind of mainframe mentality. And friends who used to work there said it is an ego war between major architects. So the public loses. If they wanted a secure system then just put the Windows GUI on top of Linux and be done with it. Oh but egos would be hurt big time! Apple put the the Mac OS on top of BSD and I never heard much complaining about users needing learn root privileges. If Apple got the wild hair to start making their OS available for other machines (again) then Microsoft would really feel doomed. I think people would jump in a heartbeat but right now you pay a Calvin Kline premium just to have that logo on your computer. And then what if Google Desktop took off (unlikely because it is cloud)? And I'm thinking of dropping Ubuntu and going with Mint since the guy in charge at Ubuntu seems to be a problem. I actually got a 16 GB USB stick to try a persistent install of Linux Mint 13 64-bit to see if my criticals will work okay. In the meantime what can we do to coordinate a chat room time? I see people drop by when no one else is around. It would be a hoot to have a full fledge FFL chat!
