Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientific proof we survive death!
Agreed. This is sloppy pseudo-science, promoted by people who are desperately *hoping* that life doesn't end at death. As Curtis says, not one of these subject actually died. We won't have any evidence of someone who *has* died still displaying consciousness until November 30. :-) From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 12:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientific proof we survive death! Wow, people who are NOT dead, have memories! Who knew. This is full of medical misunderstandings about brain functions and what physical death entails. These Doctors should be ashamed of themselves for such an absurd extrapolation from the facts. At the simplest level we have two things: The state of death and it's corresponding physiology which a person does not get resuscitated from... and every other state where they are. They are different. Why is this so hard for people to understand this unsubtle distinction?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientific proof we survive death!
Wow, people who are NOT dead, have memories! Who knew. This is full of medical misunderstandings about brain functions and what physical death entails. These Doctors should be ashamed of themselves for such an absurd extrapolation from the facts. At the simplest level we have two things: The state of death and it's corresponding physiology which a person does not get resuscitated from... and every other state where they are. They are different. Why is this so hard for people to understand this unsubtle distinction?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientific proof we survive death!
Did you read the article? The medical profession has always claimed that once the heart stops beating then brain shutdown follows almost immediately. This new evidence shows that consciousness continues for longer than previously thought. Our knowledge of this grey area has therefore been increased and our new understanding is, at the very least, suggestive. I recollect that readings from The Tibetan Book of the Dead are continued for *49* days after someone dies to offer encouragement during the transition. Do those inscrutable Tibetans know something we don't? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Wow, people who are NOT dead, have memories! Who knew. This is full of medical misunderstandings about brain functions and what physical death entails. These Doctors should be ashamed of themselves for such an absurd extrapolation from the facts. At the simplest level we have two things: The state of death and it's corresponding physiology which a person does not get resuscitated from... and every other state where they are. They are different. Why is this so hard for people to understand this unsubtle distinction?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientific proof we survive death!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Did you read the article? M:yes I did. The medical profession has always claimed that once the heart stops beating then brain shutdown follows almost immediately. M: This is a medical fallacy. Real death takes a while and people get revived from not dead states every day. They have no way of reliably knowing exactly when their experiences occurred, so they don't have a good reason to claim it was at any precise moment of the medical crises that was not death. This new evidence shows that consciousness continues for longer than previously thought. Our knowledge of this grey area has therefore been increased and our new understanding is, at the very least, suggestive. M: The article is suggesting things that are not medically accurate. Don't you care that it is bad science and suggests nothing? Why invoke science at all if we ignore its method? I recollect that readings from The Tibetan Book of the Dead are continued for *49* days after someone dies to offer encouragement during the transition. Do those inscrutable Tibetans know something we don't? M: Here you will get no argument from me. The T B of the D doesn't pretend to be something it is not. If you accept it as authoritative you are off and running in that direction. I won't follow you but I can wish you we'll. It all sounds made up to me but I may not have read the right translation. Tim Leary was a fan, so there is that going for it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Wow, people who are NOT dead, have memories! Who knew. This is full of medical misunderstandings about brain functions and what physical death entails. These Doctors should be ashamed of themselves for such an absurd extrapolation from the facts. At the simplest level we have two things: The state of death and it's corresponding physiology which a person does not get resuscitated from... and every other state where they are. They are different. Why is this so hard for people to understand this unsubtle distinction?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientific proof we survive death!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Wow, people who are NOT dead, have memories! Who knew. This is full of medical misunderstandings about brain functions and what physical death entails. These Doctors should be ashamed of themselves for such an absurd extrapolation from the facts. At the simplest level we have two things: The state of death and it's corresponding physiology which a person does not get resuscitated from... and every other state where they are. They are different. Why is this so hard for people to understand this unsubtle distinction? Baby steps.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientific proof we survive death!
Results of medical study of the human mind and consciousness at the time of death http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-10-results-medical-human-mind-consciousness.html http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-10-results-medical-human-mind-consciousness.html Results of medical study of the human mind and conscious... http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-10-results-medical-human-mind-consciousness.html The results of a four-year international study of 2060 cardiac arrest cases across 15 hospitals published and available now. View on medicalxpress.com http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-10-results-medical-human-mind-consciousness.html Preview by Yahoo http://www.resuscitationjournal.com/article/S0300-9572(14)00739-4/abstract http://www.resuscitationjournal.com/article/S0300-9572(14)00739-4/abstract
