Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-12 Thread salyavin808
? On Fri, 4/11/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, April 11, 2014, 8:52 PM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-12 Thread authfriend
OK. Did you think I had been disagreeing with you that the TMO will use anything to promote its woo woo claims and that another example of same would convince me or prove me wrong? Because, see, I've been talking about only this particular case (the morning sunshine study). You had asked,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread salyavin808
These science paywall's are so unfair, you either have to take their word for it or fork out what could amount to a fortune to get one or two papers from a journal that wouldn't cost as much for the whole thing by subscription. But lets take them at their word and assume that morning

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread LEnglish5
Morning sunlight is the basis behind Bright Light Therapy for Seasonal Affective Disorder, I believe. The mechanisms by which they work may be similar. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : These science paywall's are so unfair, you either have to take

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread authfriend
OK, I took another look at the MUMOSA post, and your paean is ridiculous. This study wasn't TM-related at all; and your guy found NOTHING WHATSOEVER to indicate it was baloney. The instructor simply copied the published study abstract for the handout (go look for yourself, as both Salyavin and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread Michael Jackson
will use my reply to blabber and blather on about how wrong I am - again, I see why Barry dislikes you so very much. On Fri, 4/11/14, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated To: FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread authfriend
Salyavin, we don't know what kind of hay the TMO was trying to make with this study (the MUMOSA guy doesn't bother to tell us). For all we know, it was simply that Vastu principles are in accord with current scientific thinking, nothing woo-woo about it. Just thinking out loud because

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread authfriend
Salyavin, we don't know what kind of hay the TMO was trying to make with this study (the MUMOSA guy doesn't bother to tell us). For all we know, it was simply that Vastu principles are in accord with current scientific thinking, nothing woo-woo about it. Just thinking out loud because

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread salyavin808
Rubbish, it wouldn't be the first time they'd picked something irrelevant or vaguely samey sounding and held it up as vindication. And it was in a classroom studying vastu, so it's pretty obvious what sort of hay they are trying to make. Remember all the BS the TMO co-opted about the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread authfriend
Rubbish yourself. It's not at all obvious they were trying to make woo-woo of it. Vindication, quite possibly, but that's not at all the same thing. And it might well be relevant to whatever Vastu says about sunlight in the home. From what I've read, many Vastu principles have nothing to do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread salyavin808
Vastu is just common sense from an iron age farmers perspective. Kitchen in the coolest place, ability to tell the solstices from looking out the front door etc. Maybe there's a bit of folk wisdom in waking up facing the sun being better for you. Where it all goes wrong is when the TMO

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread authfriend
wrong I am - again, I see why Barry dislikes you so very much. On Fri, 4/11/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated To: FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread salyavin808
And do you remember that forest fire a few years back that didn't affect any vastu homes? What did the TMO claim about that? Invincibility that's what, nature won't allow you to be harmed if you live in vastu etc. I put it to the test and wrote to the journalist who covered the fire story

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread authfriend
I never said they wouldn't grasp at any straws etc. We just don't have any evidence they were grasping at woo-woo straws in this case (or that this particular straw wasn't perfectly sound). It irritates the hell out of me when people make mountains out of molehills while ignoring the damn

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread authfriend
I do remember that, yes. And so...what? Were you thinking I'd have endorsed that claim? Did you think it had anything to do with what I was saying about the morning sun study? And do you remember that forest fire a few years back that didn't affect any vastu homes? What did the TMO

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread Michael Jackson
those same fearful people to give the TMO their money. As Edg would say, BAH! On Fri, 4/11/14, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, April

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread Michael Jackson
...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, April 11, 2014, 8:48 PM   No, you misread me. Of course he was right to ask

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread Michael Jackson
course, those pundits praying to Agni for you, that perfect vastu home then you are falling apart - which means, if you need this stuff, TM is ineffective after all. On Fri, 4/11/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread Michael Jackson
Another excellent TM Movement story I have not heard. Did this happen in the UK? On Fri, 4/11/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, April

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread authfriend
! On Fri, 4/11/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, April 11, 2014, 8:33 PM Rubbish yourself. It's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-11 Thread salyavin808
If you cast your mind back, this conversation is about how the TMO will use anything to promote its woo woo claims. The forest fire was another example. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I do remember that, yes. And so...what? Were you thinking I'd have endorsed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-10 Thread authfriend
Did he ever check the actual study as the instructor suggested? Or is he just assuming it didn't include the average hospital stay rather than that it was left out of the handout he read? Seems like he didn't really finish the job before drawing his conclusions about TM-style Vastu in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
write him and ask him On Fri, 4/11/14, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, April 11, 2014, 1:17 AM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/10/2014 9:34 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: write him and ask him OK.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientifically Validated

2014-04-10 Thread authfriend
No, you write him and ask him if you want us to give his story any credence. You don't seem to understand the principle. It's not up to the people you're trying to convince to vet and validate the story. That's your job. You didn't even notice the omission, did you? You just swallowed it