[FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Your original statement was something about no obligation coming with privileged status. Sorry about the misunderstanding-- that isn't my feeling at all-- in fact we would be in far better shape if those with more power handled it more responsibly, though I am not blaming anyone per se. I have had a longstanding view, particularly with regard to parenting that if we have children we have an obligation to raise our children vs the other way around as it appears done so often these days. I was addressing this as a questionable principle, and am remiss in allowing it to degenerate into a more personal statement. a >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Then my original question about your obligations as a favored white dude still stands. But, maybe, in America the ancient European tradition of "noblesse oblige" has lost its relevance. Too bad. "I'm in a good incarnation and fuck you" doesn't strike me as a viable means to planetary stewardship, but that does seem to be the way things are with 30% white folks and 70% colored folks on this small rock. It is a fact that it's still a man's world, and, moreover, a white man's world. But it's condition does not speak well for you. a At this point you appear to be ascribing way too much power to the fact that I am an american white male. I do my best to act in a way that is responsible, kind and reasonable, even to other white american males. Even if I was a non white, female non american, I'd do the same. Other than that, if you are suggesting that I have the ability to have a far reaching impact on the entire world's population through some mechanism like charity or government or politics, merely because of my gender, skin color and nationality, that seems out of perspective with regard to what we are discussing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
Not as a general statement of favorable conditions, but as an absolute, yes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, put like that, doesn't the notion of best possible incarnation on this planet lose its meaning? > > jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander > wrote: > > > > Yes, what you say is certainly true. Even our IQ tests are slanted > in your favor. But this doesn't mean that you couldn't use your > privileged status to do something for the rest of us niggers. a > > I don't think the privilege, if you can call it that, of incarnating > with a favorable set of characteristics on this planet means > necessarily that a person is in a better position to do something for > the rest of humanity. The homeless white American male I see over at > Safeway would probably agree with my conclusion. I'd think that power > would convey more automatically to those who are born into great > wealth, regardless of their race, gender and nationality. > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, It's not exactly a vote winner is it? > > This could be the big trouble with democracy, people won't vote for a > major reduction in their comfortable lifestyle which is what we need. > Governments are happy for people to think they are doing something > positive by buying low energy lightbulbs and smaller cars but we all > know it's just window dressing, it won't make a fart of difference in > the long run. > > We'll just have to suffer whatever the consequencies turn out to be, > hardly smart thinking but there you go. > The best studies on this show you don't need a major reduction in lifestyle - this is oil company-republican propaganda, spread also by extreme greens who don't like modern tech based civilization for moral reasons. What is needed is a switch in sources of energy and some conservation but not a major reduction in lifestyle.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
Well, put like that, doesn't the notion of best possible incarnation on this planet lose its meaning? jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, what you say is certainly true. Even our IQ tests are slanted in your favor. But this doesn't mean that you couldn't use your privileged status to do something for the rest of us niggers. a I don't think the privilege, if you can call it that, of incarnating with a favorable set of characteristics on this planet means necessarily that a person is in a better position to do something for the rest of humanity. The homeless white American male I see over at Safeway would probably agree with my conclusion. I'd think that power would convey more automatically to those who are born into great wealth, regardless of their race, gender and nationality. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
In a message dated 11/12/07 5:23:35 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But I haven't seen it advocated as a possible policy by government > people, nor by advocates such as Gore. Have you? > No, It's not exactly a vote winner is it? This could be the big trouble with democracy, people won't vote for a major reduction in their comfortable lifestyle which is what we need. Governments are happy for people to think they are doing something positive by buying low energy lightbulbs and smaller cars but we all know it's just window dressing, it won't make a fart of difference in the long run. We'll just have to suffer whatever the consequencies turn out to be, hardly smart thinking but there you go. Hey, but those screwy light bulbs and little cars sure can make us feel good about ourselves! ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > Nice to know you're giving the problem some thought Shemp, but it > has > > been suggested by many people many times. > > > > http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_kmens/is_200508/ai_n14907125 > > > I'm well aware that groups such as PETA, to their credit, have been > advocating such policies, as is the group from your link above. > > But I haven't seen it advocated as a possible policy by government > people, nor by advocates such as Gore. Have you? > No, It's not exactly a vote winner is it? This could be the big trouble with democracy, people won't vote for a major reduction in their comfortable lifestyle which is what we need. Governments are happy for people to think they are doing something positive by buying low energy lightbulbs and smaller cars but we all know it's just window dressing, it won't make a fart of difference in the long run. We'll just have to suffer whatever the consequencies turn out to be, hardly smart thinking but there you go.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, what you say is certainly true. Even our IQ tests are slanted in your favor. But this doesn't mean that you couldn't use your privileged status to do something for the rest of us niggers. a I don't think the privilege, if you can call it that, of incarnating with a favorable set of characteristics on this planet means necessarily that a person is in a better position to do something for the rest of humanity. The homeless white American male I see over at Safeway would probably agree with my conclusion. I'd think that power would convey more automatically to those who are born into great wealth, regardless of their race, gender and nationality.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
Yes, what you say is certainly true. Even our IQ tests are slanted in your favor. But this doesn't mean that you couldn't use your privileged status to do something for the rest of us niggers. a jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A good friend of mine who's been on Purusha for the past 25 years told me that the best karma on Earth was to be born white, male, and American. > > Hah! Proof!! MMY's a Nazi. > Certainly makes a lot of sense to me-- the white male American thing. I have traveled a lot and lived other places, both here and outside the US. And given each of our burdens we bring to this life, being a male, white American has eliminated significant hurdles in my life. It *doesn't* mean, as some seem to be interpreting this, that male white Americans are more evolved in any way shape or form, *at all*, or that those set of fortunate circumstances make any of the white male Americans better in any way, whatsoever. It just means the freeway has less traffic on it, upon arrival. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/11/07 1:51:09 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I'm well aware that groups such as PETA, to their credit, have been > advocating such policies, as is the group from your link above. > > But I haven't seen it advocated as a possible policy by government > people, nor by advocates such as Gore. Have you? > > > > > Doesn't Gore raise Angus on his Tn. farm? Gore's children are Karenna, Kristen, Sarah, and Albert III. They were all raised in Manhatten and Washington, D.C. > > > ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A good friend of mine who's been on Purusha for the past 25 years told me that the best karma on Earth was to be born white, male, and American. > > Hah! Proof!! MMY's a Nazi. > Certainly makes a lot of sense to me-- the white male American thing. I have traveled a lot and lived other places, both here and outside the US. And given each of our burdens we bring to this life, being a male, white American has eliminated significant hurdles in my life. It *doesn't* mean, as some seem to be interpreting this, that male white Americans are more evolved in any way shape or form, *at all*, or that those set of fortunate circumstances make any of the white male Americans better in any way, whatsoever. It just means the freeway has less traffic on it, upon arrival.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
In a message dated 11/11/07 1:51:09 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm well aware that groups such as PETA, to their credit, have been advocating such policies, as is the group from your link above. But I haven't seen it advocated as a possible policy by government people, nor by advocates such as Gore. Have you? Doesn't Gore raise Angus on his Tn. farm? ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > >> I think it's because of hypocrisy, on the order of Al Gore being a > > glutton in personal energy consumption himself (all those big houses > > he owns) or Leonardo DiCaptrio who flies in private jets): > > And Barbara Streisand farts a lot -- it is said. > Killing Barbra Streisand would therefore solve a LOT of problems...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > As you all know, I believe the whole concept of man-made > catastrophic > > global-warming is all bullshit anyway. > > > > However, assuming it to be real, I would be open to the following > > solution which seems to be one that could not only be implemented > > virtually over-night, but solve the problem over-night as well. > > > > The livestock industry, we are told by that silly U.N. report, > emits > > more global-warming-causing greenhouse gases than the > transportation > > industry (cars, planes, etc.). > > > > We can't stop the transportation industry over-night. And changing > > it to, say, hydrogen-based vehicles or ethanol or any of the other > > solutions is either very hard to do or will take years to implement > > (except, of course, that fantastic technology called plug-in > hybrids > > but no one seems to want to do it too badly...but I digress). > > > > We can, however, over-night, kill all the cows, pigs, chickens, and > > any other fart or belching-producing livestock...without any human > > dying or being deprived of food as a result. > > > > Yes, it will have a devastating effect on many livelihoods and > > businesses. But unlike doing something similar to the > transportation > > industry, life will go on (and be healthier for it). > > > > So why isn't this or something similar to it ever suggested? If > > people are truly serious about global-warming, why isn't it even > > discussed? > > > > I think it's because of hypocrisy, on the order of Al Gore being a > > glutton in personal energy consumption himself (all those big > houses > > he owns) or Leonardo DiCaptrio who flies in private jets): people > > won't want to give up their comfort foods. > > > > Nice to know you're giving the problem some thought Shemp, but it has > been suggested by many people many times. > > http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_kmens/is_200508/ai_n14907125 I'm well aware that groups such as PETA, to their credit, have been advocating such policies, as is the group from your link above. But I haven't seen it advocated as a possible policy by government people, nor by advocates such as Gore. Have you?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
A good friend of mine who's been on Purusha for the past 25 years told me that the best karma on Earth was to be born white, male, and American. Hah! Proof!! MMY's a Nazi. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I think it's because of hypocrisy, on the order of Al Gore being a > glutton in personal energy consumption himself (all those big houses > he owns) or Leonardo DiCaptrio who flies in private jets): And Barbara Streisand farts a lot -- it is said.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As you all know, I believe the whole concept of man-made catastrophic > global-warming is all bullshit anyway. > > However, assuming it to be real, I would be open to the following > solution which seems to be one that could not only be implemented > virtually over-night, but solve the problem over-night as well. > > The livestock industry, we are told by that silly U.N. report, emits > more global-warming-causing greenhouse gases than the transportation > industry (cars, planes, etc.). > > We can't stop the transportation industry over-night. And changing > it to, say, hydrogen-based vehicles or ethanol or any of the other > solutions is either very hard to do or will take years to implement > (except, of course, that fantastic technology called plug-in hybrids > but no one seems to want to do it too badly...but I digress). > > We can, however, over-night, kill all the cows, pigs, chickens, and > any other fart or belching-producing livestock...without any human > dying or being deprived of food as a result. > > Yes, it will have a devastating effect on many livelihoods and > businesses. But unlike doing something similar to the transportation > industry, life will go on (and be healthier for it). > > So why isn't this or something similar to it ever suggested? If > people are truly serious about global-warming, why isn't it even > discussed? > > I think it's because of hypocrisy, on the order of Al Gore being a > glutton in personal energy consumption himself (all those big houses > he owns) or Leonardo DiCaptrio who flies in private jets): people > won't want to give up their comfort foods. > Nice to know you're giving the problem some thought Shemp, but it has been suggested by many people many times. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_kmens/is_200508/ai_n14907125
[FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of shempmcgurk > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 10:53 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight > > > > A good friend of mine who's been on Purusha for the past 25 years > told me that the best karma on Earth was to be born white, male, and > American. > > Tell that to Oprah Winfrey, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Richard Branson, > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, etc., etc. Just because you've been on Purusha for 25 > years doesn't mean you're not an idiot. Or been on the Programme for a fraction of that time...
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 10:53 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight A good friend of mine who's been on Purusha for the past 25 years told me that the best karma on Earth was to be born white, male, and American. Tell that to Oprah Winfrey, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Richard Branson, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, etc., etc. Just because you’ve been on Purusha for 25 years doesn’t mean you’re not an idiot. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.28/1123 - Release Date: 11/10/2007 3:47 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
In a message dated 11/11/07 10:53:33 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A good friend of mine who's been on Purusha for the past 25 years told me that the best karma on Earth was to be born white, male, and American. Let's not leave out *rich*. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Solving the global warming "problem" overnight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/11/07 10:12:48 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > We can, however, over-night, kill all the cows, pigs, chickens, and > any other fart or belching-producing livestock...any other fart > dying or being deprived of food as a result. > > > > This solution is politically incorrect! The PC thing to do is, abort all > human pregnancies and kill all white men until Global cooling arrives. A good friend of mine who's been on Purusha for the past 25 years told me that the best karma on Earth was to be born white, male, and American. > > > > ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com >
