[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@... wrote: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension (Published online April 22, 2013) Interesting, but when you read the article: http://newsroom.heart.org/news/alternative-therapies-may-help-lower-blood-pressure

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread sparaig
I sent notice about this to David Orme-Johnson, Fred Travis, Dr Rosenthal, etc, earlier this week. David summarized the study and sent it to all his friends the next day. Dr. Schneider is only now making remarks on the paper. So, 2-3 days from hearing unexpectedly about an announcement to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread sparaig
Well, this only evaluated the effects of TM on blood pressure. A German think tank released a study the same day that found that workplace stress can double your chances of heart attack and stroke. BP is only one factor of many that TM apparently effects, and the recent finding that shows a 48%

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread Michael Jackson
Its just a matter of time before all or most of the TM research is de-bunked. From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread doctordumbass
Good stuff. Though it *did* take 30+ years for TM to fix my high blood pressure, since I was genetically predisposed to it. My BP was around 145/90 for most of my life. My doctor wanted to prescribe this stuff, and I said I didn't want to take it, because I had heard it caused dizziness. He

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Good stuff. Though it *did* take 30+ years for TM to fix my high blood pressure, since I was genetically predisposed to it. You should have spent your time squeezing things, much more effective according to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Well, this only evaluated the effects of TM on blood pressure. A German think tank released a study the same day that found that workplace stress can double your chances of heart attack and stroke. BP is only one factor of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread doctordumbass
Good one! I heard you've been accepted into the third grade next year. Congrats! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Good stuff. Though it *did* take 30+ years for TM to fix my

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: But if they really cared about peoples health - as opposed to just banging their respective drums - they'd be singing the praises of hand squeezing and slow breathing. According to the evidence anyway

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: But if they really cared about peoples health - as opposed to just banging their respective drums - they'd be singing the praises of hand

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread sparaig
from the press release: �TM may be considered in clinical practice to lower BP. Because of many negative studies or mixed results and a paucity of available trials, all other meditation techniques (including MBSR [Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction]) received a Class III, no benefit, Level

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: In fact the only head to head study on BP between TM and mindfulness that I am aware of DOES show that TM has a larger effect on BP than mindfulness. The TM researchers will be very happy to cooperate with mindfulness

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: What it adds to a discussion on HBP is that the TM press release was misleading. TM press releases are often misleading (I know, I used to help write them) Interesting claim. I guess the british lurkers here

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: In fact the only head to head study on BP between TM and mindfulness that I am aware of DOES show that TM has a larger effect on BP than mindfulness. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread doctordumbass
wasn't it Tibetan Lama Risotto No Tuba who proclaimed, Knowledge Is Structured In Funny Hats.? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: In fact the only head to head study on BP between TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread sparaig
Actually, both biofeedback and TM received the same rating for evidence and effectiveness. The wording in the summary of the biofeedback section is the same as for TM: may be considered. Looking more carefully at the two modalities, it looks like TM may actually be more effective than

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: wasn't it Tibetan Lama Risotto No Tuba who proclaimed, Knowledge Is Structured In Funny Hats.? That's right, it's the guy on the left :-) 480 × 360 - blogs.transparent.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: What it adds to a discussion on HBP is that the TM press release was misleading. TM press releases are often misleading (I know, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Heart Association Recommends TM for Hypertension

2013-04-26 Thread doctordumbass
Yes, I could tell... Something about the subtle, yet forceful way he holds his flute. I have had some very deep experiences meditating with such a hat on. Unfortunately, here in the ignorant, materialistic West, I must settle for wearing an overturned plastic wastebasket, from IKEA, with a