[FairfieldLife] Re: The Invention of Heaven

2010-04-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodle...@... wrote: snip And yet, and yet ... of course I understand why so many people want to believe in heaven, even now, even in the face of all the evidence, and all reason. It is a way – however futilely – of trying to escape the awful

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Invention of Heaven

2010-04-21 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: snip And yet, and yet ... of course I understand why so many people want to believe in heaven, even now, even in the face of all the evidence, and all

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Invention of Heaven

2010-04-21 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: snip And yet, and yet ... of course I understand why so many people want to believe in heaven, even now, even in the face of all the evidence, and all

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Invention of Heaven

2010-04-21 Thread WillyTex
Hugo: The nothingness is easily understood too. Dying is most probably like going under anaesthetic, nothing you can do except disappear. Along with awareness goes the part of you that thinks there must be something else that survives... You are using metaphysical terms, so to follow

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Invention of Heaven

2010-04-21 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Hugo: The nothingness is easily understood too. Dying is most probably like going under anaesthetic, nothing you can do except disappear. Along with awareness goes the part of you that thinks there must be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Invention of Heaven

2010-04-21 Thread It's just a ride
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Hugo fintlewoodle...@mail.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: I certainly find it hard to believe you exist. I dated a girl years ago who was an honors philosophy graduate from Vassar. Whenever we got into a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Invention of Heaven

2010-04-21 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Hugo fintlewoodle...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: I certainly find it hard to believe you exist. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Invention of Heaven

2010-04-21 Thread WillyTex
You are using metaphysical terms, so to follow this thread, you'd have to assume that we 'exist' in the first place, in order to postulate that we will one day be 'non-existent'. Hugo: I certainly find it hard to believe you exist. Circular logic, Hugo. You failed to define 'exist'.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Invention of Heaven

2010-04-21 Thread WillyTex
I dated a girl years ago who was an honors philosophy graduate from Vassar. Whenever we got into a tiff she used to prove that I didn't exist. Hugo: That must have worn down the ol' ego. So you've read Freud. But, do we really have an 'ego'? What about the 'super-ego'? If we have

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Invention of Heaven

2010-04-21 Thread WillyTex
I certainly find it hard to believe you exist. Tom: I dated a girl years ago who was an honors philosophy graduate from Vassar. Whenever we got into a tiff she used to prove that I didn't exist. So, what does it mean to 'not exist'? Why wouldn't we exist in the future, if we existed