Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme
Try to imagine the shitstorm that would hit the fan if the TMO learned that
someone in Hollywood had bought the film rights of Robes of Silk, Feet of
Clay and was about to turn it into a major film.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
A little background, for those who might be tempted to believe that French mag
Charlie Hebdo only made fun of Muslims. Not true...they were (and in all
likelihood will continue to be) equal opportunity blasphemers. Good for them...
It all reminds me of the trouble we had in England with Sikhs when a Sikh girl
- who was abused as a child by an elder at her temple - wrote a play about the
experience. Hordes of angry Sikhs attacked the place and forced the play to be
cancelled.
There were lots of highly disturbing letters - and even a Sikh on the BBC's
flagship discussion show - claiming that they were a peaceful people until
their religion is insulted and then they are not responsible for their actions.
Which is chilling enough on its own because not being responsible for your
actions is how we define insanity in the civilised world, but what was worse is
that no one was arguing against this right to destroy to protect their point
of view. Even the chair of BBC's Question Time let the matter go. You simply
can't have people claiming immunity for their actions based on their beliefs,
where would it end?
I can't believe it was 10 years ago either:
Mohan Singh, from the Guru Nanak Gurdwara in south Birmingham, an organisation
of Sikh temples, said the theatre should have heeded the concerns of Sikh
representatives before the protests turned violent but denied that the
protesters had attempted to stifle free speech.He said: Free speech can go so
far. Maybe 5,000 people would have seen this play over the run. Are you going
to upset 600,000 thousands Sikhs in Britain and maybe 20 million outside the UK
for that?Religion is a very sensitive issue and you should be extremely
careful.This morning the theatre could be seen with its windows boarded up
after protestors smashed the front entrance and backstage equipment on Saturday
night.
Play axed after Sikh protests
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme
Chilling indeed, salyavin, that people would say, and obviously think, that
once their religion has been insulted, they are no longer responsible for their
actions! It's these kinds of thoughts and words and actions that ALMOST make me
subscribe to mandatory drug intervention for certain imbalances.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 4:23 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
A little background, for those who might be tempted to believe that French mag
Charlie Hebdo only made fun of Muslims. Not true...they were (and in all
likelihood will continue to be) equal opportunity blasphemers. Good for them...
It all reminds me of the trouble we had in England with Sikhs when a Sikh girl
- who was abused as a child by an elder at her temple - wrote a play about the
experience. Hordes of angry Sikhs attacked the place and forced the play to be
cancelled.
There were lots of highly disturbing letters - and even a Sikh on the BBC's
flagship discussion show - claiming that they were a peaceful people until
their religion is insulted and then they are not responsible for their actions.
Which is chilling enough on its own because not being responsible for your
actions is how we define insanity in the civilised world, but what was worse is
that no one was arguing against this right to destroy to protect their point
of view. Even the chair of BBC's Question Time let the matter go. You simply
can't have people claiming immunity for their actions based on their beliefs,
where would it end?
I can't believe it was 10 years ago either:
Mohan Singh, from the Guru Nanak Gurdwara in south Birmingham, an organisation
of Sikh temples, said the theatre should have heeded the concerns of Sikh
representatives before the protests turned violent but denied that the
protesters had attempted to stifle free speech.He said: Free speech can go so
far. Maybe 5,000 people would have seen this play over the run. Are you going
to upset 600,000 thousands Sikhs in Britain and maybe 20 million outside the UK
for that?Religion is a very sensitive issue and you should be extremely
careful.This morning the theatre could be seen with its windows boarded up
after protestors smashed the front entrance and backstage equipment on Saturday
night.
Play axed after Sikh protests
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theatre attacked this weekend in a violent protest by Sikhs today announced it
was ending the run of a play that depicts murder and rape in ...||
| View on www.theguardian.com |Preview by Yahoo|
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Charlie Hebdo has had more legal run-ins with Christians than with Muslims
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not anti-Islam as much as it is anti-religion and broadly anti-establishment. |
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| View on qz.com | Preview by Yahoo |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme
Brilliant idea. Ben Kingsley could definitely nail it as the lead role! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Try to imagine the shitstorm that would hit the fan if the TMO learned that someone in Hollywood had bought the film rights of Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay and was about to turn it into a major film. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : A little background, for those who might be tempted to believe that French mag Charlie Hebdo only made fun of Muslims. Not true...they were (and in all likelihood will continue to be) equal opportunity blasphemers. Good for them... It all reminds me of the trouble we had in England with Sikhs when a Sikh girl - who was abused as a child by an elder at her temple - wrote a play about the experience. Hordes of angry Sikhs attacked the place and forced the play to be cancelled. There were lots of highly disturbing letters - and even a Sikh on the BBC's flagship discussion show - claiming that they were a peaceful people until their religion is insulted and then they are not responsible for their actions. Which is chilling enough on its own because not being responsible for your actions is how we define insanity in the civilised world, but what was worse is that no one was arguing against this right to destroy to protect their point of view. Even the chair of BBC's Question Time let the matter go. You simply can't have people claiming immunity for their actions based on their beliefs, where would it end? I can't believe it was 10 years ago either: Mohan Singh, from the Guru Nanak Gurdwara in south Birmingham, an organisation of Sikh temples, said the theatre should have heeded the concerns of Sikh representatives before the protests turned violent but denied that the protesters had attempted to stifle free speech. He said: Free speech can go so far. Maybe 5,000 people would have seen this play over the run. Are you going to upset 600,000 thousands Sikhs in Britain and maybe 20 million outside the UK for that? Religion is a very sensitive issue and you should be extremely careful. This morning the theatre could be seen with its windows boarded up after protestors smashed the front entrance and backstage equipment on Saturday night. Play axed after Sikh protests http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/dec/20/arts.religion1 http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/dec/20/arts.religion1 Play axed after Sikh protests http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/dec/20/arts.religion1 The Birmingham theatre attacked this weekend in a violent protest by Sikhs today announced it was ending the run of a play that depicts murder and rape in ... View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/dec/20/arts.religion1 Preview by Yahoo Charlie Hebdo has had more legal run-ins with Christians than with Muslims http://qz.com/322550/charlie-hebdo-has-had-more-legal-run-ins-with-christians-than-with-muslims/ http://qz.com/322550/charlie-hebdo-has-had-more-legal-run-ins-with-christians-than-with-muslims/ Charlie Hebdo has had more legal run-ins with Christians... http://qz.com/322550/charlie-hebdo-has-had-more-legal-run-ins-with-christians-than-with-muslims/ The magazine is not anti-Islam as much as it is anti-religion and broadly anti-establishment. View on qz.com http://qz.com/322550/charlie-hebdo-has-had-more-legal-run-ins-with-christians-than-with-muslims/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : A little background, for those who might be tempted to believe that French mag Charlie Hebdo only made fun of Muslims. Not true...they were (and in all likelihood will continue to be) equal opportunity blasphemers. Good for them... It all reminds me of the trouble we had in England with Sikhs when a Sikh girl - who was abused as a child by an elder at her temple - wrote a play about the experience. Hordes of angry Sikhs attacked the place and forced the play to be cancelled. There were lots of highly disturbing letters - and even a Sikh on the BBC's flagship discussion show - claiming that they were a peaceful people until their religion is insulted and then they are not responsible for their actions. Which is chilling enough on its own because not being responsible for your actions is how we define insanity in the civilised world, but what was worse is that no one was arguing against this right to destroy to protect their point of view. Even the chair of BBC's Question Time let the matter go. You simply can't have people claiming immunity for their actions based on their beliefs, where would it end? I can't believe it was 10 years ago either: Mohan Singh, from the Guru Nanak Gurdwara in south Birmingham, an organisation of Sikh temples, said the theatre should have heeded the concerns of Sikh representatives before the protests turned violent but denied that the protesters had attempted to stifle free speech. He said: Free speech can go so far. Maybe 5,000 people would have seen this play over the run. Are you going to upset 600,000 thousands Sikhs in Britain and maybe 20 million outside the UK for that? Religion is a very sensitive issue and you should be extremely careful. This morning the theatre could be seen with its windows boarded up after protestors smashed the front entrance and backstage equipment on Saturday night. Play axed after Sikh protests http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/dec/20/arts.religion1 http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/dec/20/arts.religion1 Play axed after Sikh protests http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/dec/20/arts.religion1 The Birmingham theatre attacked this weekend in a violent protest by Sikhs today announced it was ending the run of a play that depicts murder and rape in ... View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/dec/20/arts.religion1 Preview by Yahoo Charlie Hebdo has had more legal run-ins with Christians than with Muslims http://qz.com/322550/charlie-hebdo-has-had-more-legal-run-ins-with-christians-than-with-muslims/ http://qz.com/322550/charlie-hebdo-has-had-more-legal-run-ins-with-christians-than-with-muslims/ Charlie Hebdo has had more legal run-ins with Christians... http://qz.com/322550/charlie-hebdo-has-had-more-legal-run-ins-with-christians-than-with-muslims/ The magazine is not anti-Islam as much as it is anti-religion and broadly anti-establishment. View on qz.com http://qz.com/322550/charlie-hebdo-has-had-more-legal-run-ins-with-christians-than-with-muslims/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme
Some of the cartoons are really funny, I'd have to say, to bad I don't speak french. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : A little background, for those who might be tempted to believe that French mag Charlie Hebdo only made fun of Muslims. Not true...they were (and in all likelihood will continue to be) equal opportunity blasphemers. Good for them... Charlie Hebdo has had more legal run-ins with Christians than with Muslims http://qz.com/322550/charlie-hebdo-has-had-more-legal-run-ins-with-christians-than-with-muslims/ http://qz.com/322550/charlie-hebdo-has-had-more-legal-run-ins-with-christians-than-with-muslims/ Charlie Hebdo has had more legal run-ins with Christians... http://qz.com/322550/charlie-hebdo-has-had-more-legal-run-ins-with-christians-than-with-muslims/ The magazine is not anti-Islam as much as it is anti-religion and broadly anti-establishment. View on qz.com http://qz.com/322550/charlie-hebdo-has-had-more-legal-run-ins-with-christians-than-with-muslims/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Brilliant idea. Ben Kingsley could definitely nail it as the lead role! eeh, you mean nail as in nailing? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Try to imagine the shitstorm that would hit the fan if the TMO learned that someone in Hollywood had bought the film rights of Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay and was about to turn it into a major film. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : A little background, for those who might be tempted to believe that French mag Charlie Hebdo only made fun of Muslims. Not true...they were (and in all likelihood will continue to be) equal opportunity blasphemers. Good for them... It all reminds me of the trouble we had in England with Sikhs when a Sikh girl - who was abused as a child by an elder at her temple - wrote a play about the experience. Hordes of angry Sikhs attacked the place and forced the play to be cancelled. There were lots of highly disturbing letters - and even a Sikh on the BBC's flagship discussion show - claiming that they were a peaceful people until their religion is insulted and then they are not responsible for their actions. Which is chilling enough on its own because not being responsible for your actions is how we define insanity in the civilised world, but what was worse is that no one was arguing against this right to destroy to protect their point of view. Even the chair of BBC's Question Time let the matter go. You simply can't have people claiming immunity for their actions based on their beliefs, where would it end? I can't believe it was 10 years ago either: Mohan Singh, from the Guru Nanak Gurdwara in south Birmingham, an organisation of Sikh temples, said the theatre should have heeded the concerns of Sikh representatives before the protests turned violent but denied that the protesters had attempted to stifle free speech. He said: Free speech can go so far. Maybe 5,000 people would have seen this play over the run. Are you going to upset 600,000 thousands Sikhs in Britain and maybe 20 million outside the UK for that? Religion is a very sensitive issue and you should be extremely careful. This morning the theatre could be seen with its windows boarded up after protestors smashed the front entrance and backstage equipment on Saturday night. Play axed after Sikh protests http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/dec/20/arts.religion1 http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/dec/20/arts.religion1 Play axed after Sikh protests http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/dec/20/arts.religion1 The Birmingham theatre attacked this weekend in a violent protest by Sikhs today announced it was ending the run of a play that depicts murder and rape in ... View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/dec/20/arts.religion1 Preview by Yahoo Charlie Hebdo has had more legal run-ins with Christians than with Muslims http://qz.com/322550/charlie-hebdo-has-had-more-legal-run-ins-with-christians-than-with-muslims/ http://qz.com/322550/charlie-hebdo-has-had-more-legal-run-ins-with-christians-than-with-muslims/ Charlie Hebdo has had more legal run-ins with Christians... http://qz.com/322550/charlie-hebdo-has-had-more-legal-run-ins-with-christians-than-with-muslims/ The magazine is not anti-Islam as much as it is anti-religion and broadly anti-establishment. View on qz.com http://qz.com/322550/charlie-hebdo-has-had-more-legal-run-ins-with-christians-than-with-muslims/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/01/07/islam-allah-muslims-shariah-anjem-choudary-editorials-debates/21417461/
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 5:23 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
A little background, for those who might be tempted to believe that French mag
Charlie Hebdo only made fun of Muslims. Not true...they were (and in all
likelihood will continue to be) equal opportunity blasphemers. Good for them...
It all reminds me of the trouble we had in England with Sikhs when a Sikh girl
- who was abused as a child by an elder at her temple - wrote a play about the
experience. Hordes of angry Sikhs attacked the place and forced the play to be
cancelled.
There were lots of highly disturbing letters - and even a Sikh on the BBC's
flagship discussion show - claiming that they were a peaceful people until
their religion is insulted and then they are not responsible for their actions.
Which is chilling enough on its own because not being responsible for your
actions is how we define insanity in the civilised world, but what was worse is
that no one was arguing against this right to destroy to protect their point
of view. Even the chair of BBC's Question Time let the matter go. You simply
can't have people claiming immunity for their actions based on their beliefs,
where would it end?
I can't believe it was 10 years ago either:
Mohan Singh, from the Guru Nanak Gurdwara in south Birmingham, an organisation
of Sikh temples, said the theatre should have heeded the concerns of Sikh
representatives before the protests turned violent but denied that the
protesters had attempted to stifle free speech.He said: Free speech can go so
far. Maybe 5,000 people would have seen this play over the run. Are you going
to upset 600,000 thousands Sikhs in Britain and maybe 20 million outside the UK
for that?Religion is a very sensitive issue and you should be extremely
careful.This morning the theatre could be seen with its windows boarded up
after protestors smashed the front entrance and backstage equipment on Saturday
night.
Play axed after Sikh protests
||
|||| Play axed after Sikh protests The Birmingham
theatre attacked this weekend in a violent protest by Sikhs today announced it
was ending the run of a play that depicts murder and rape in ...||
| View on www.theguardian.com |Preview by Yahoo|
||
Charlie Hebdo has had more legal run-ins with Christians than with Muslims
| |
| | | | | | | |
| Charlie Hebdo has had more legal run-ins with Christians...The magazine is
not anti-Islam as much as it is anti-religion and broadly anti-establishment. |
| |
| View on qz.com | Preview by Yahoo |
| |
| |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme
Oh God I can't wait
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme
Try to imagine the shitstorm that would hit the fan if the TMO learned that
someone in Hollywood had bought the film rights of Robes of Silk, Feet of
Clay and was about to turn it into a major film.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
A little background, for those who might be tempted to believe that French mag
Charlie Hebdo only made fun of Muslims. Not true...they were (and in all
likelihood will continue to be) equal opportunity blasphemers. Good for them...
It all reminds me of the trouble we had in England with Sikhs when a Sikh girl
- who was abused as a child by an elder at her temple - wrote a play about the
experience. Hordes of angry Sikhs attacked the place and forced the play to be
cancelled.
There were lots of highly disturbing letters - and even a Sikh on the BBC's
flagship discussion show - claiming that they were a peaceful people until
their religion is insulted and then they are not responsible for their actions.
Which is chilling enough on its own because not being responsible for your
actions is how we define insanity in the civilised world, but what was worse is
that no one was arguing against this right to destroy to protect their point
of view. Even the chair of BBC's Question Time let the matter go. You simply
can't have people claiming immunity for their actions based on their beliefs,
where would it end?
I can't believe it was 10 years ago either:
Mohan Singh, from the Guru Nanak Gurdwara in south Birmingham, an organisation
of Sikh temples, said the theatre should have heeded the concerns of Sikh
representatives before the protests turned violent but denied that the
protesters had attempted to stifle free speech.He said: Free speech can go so
far. Maybe 5,000 people would have seen this play over the run. Are you going
to upset 600,000 thousands Sikhs in Britain and maybe 20 million outside the UK
for that?Religion is a very sensitive issue and you should be extremely
careful.This morning the theatre could be seen with its windows boarded up
after protestors smashed the front entrance and backstage equipment on Saturday
night.
Play axed after Sikh protests
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/01/07/islam-allah-muslims-shariah-anjem-choudary-editorials-debates/21417461/ Help me out here, Michael. I haven't looked at an issue of USA Today in years. I remember from my time in America that it used to be illegal to buy the newspaper unless you could prove that your IQ was less than 90, but I was unaware that it had turned into a satire magazine. So WTF, dude? Did USA Today just give a complete madman a platform on which to write 284 words that PROVE he's insane, and representing an insane religion, or is this really an article from The Onion? Contrary to popular misconception, Islam does not mean peace but rather means submission to the commands of Allah alone. Therefore, Muslims do not believe in the concept of freedom of expression, as their speech and actions are determined by divine revelation and not based on people's desires. Although Muslims may not agree about the idea of freedom of expression, even non-Muslims who espouse it say it comes with responsibilities. In an increasingly unstable and insecure world, the potential consequences of insulting the Messenger Muhammad are known to Muslims and non-Muslims alike. Muslims consider the honor of the Prophet Muhammad to be dearer to them than that of their parents or even themselves. To defend it is considered to be an obligation upon them. The strict punishment if found guilty of this crime under sharia (Islamic law) is capital punishment implementable by an Islamic State. This is because the Messenger Muhammad said, Whoever insults a Prophet kill him. However, because the honor of the Prophet is something which all Muslims want to defend, many will take the law into their own hands, as we often see. Within liberal democracies, freedom of expression has curtailments, such as laws against incitement and hatred. The truth is that Western governments are content to sacrifice liberties and freedoms when being complicit to torture and rendition — or when restricting the freedom of movement of Muslims, under the guise of protecting national security. So why in this case did the French government allow the magazine Charlie Hebdo to continue to provoke Muslims, thereby placing the sanctity of its citizens at risk? It is time that the sanctity of a Prophet revered by up to one-quarter of the world's population was protected.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme
For my part, I just don't think 3/4 of the world's population should be held
hostage by the beliefs of others. If someone was stupid enough to insult the
Prophet in Saudi Arabia, or another majority Muslim country, they would surely
pay for it. On the other hand, if one insults the Prophet in a non-Muslim
country the faithful just need to learn to deal with it quietly and in the
mosque.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/01/07/islam-allah-muslims-shariah-anjem-choudary-editorials-debates/21417461/
Help me out here, Michael. I haven't looked at an issue of USA Today in years.
I remember from my time in America that it used to be illegal to buy the
newspaper unless you could prove that your IQ was less than 90, but I was
unaware that it had turned into a satire magazine. So WTF, dude? Did USA Today
just give a complete madman a platform on which to write 284 words that PROVE
he's insane, and representing an insane religion, or is this really an article
from The Onion?
Contrary to popular misconception, Islam does not mean peace but rather means
submission to the commands of Allah alone. Therefore, Muslims do not believe in
the concept of freedom of expression, as their speech and actions are
determined by divine revelation and not based on people's desires.
Although Muslims may not agree about the idea of freedom of expression, even
non-Muslims who espouse it say it comes with responsibilities. In an
increasingly unstable and insecure world, the potential consequences of
insulting the Messenger Muhammad are known to Muslims and non-Muslims alike.
Muslims consider the honor of the Prophet Muhammad to be dearer to them than
that of their parents or even themselves. To defend it is considered to be an
obligation upon them. The strict punishment if found guilty of this crime under
sharia (Islamic law) is capital punishment implementable by an Islamic State.
This is because the Messenger Muhammad said, Whoever insults a Prophet kill
him.
However, because the honor of the Prophet is something which all Muslims want
to defend, many will take the law into their own hands, as we often see.
Within liberal democracies, freedom of expression has curtailments, such as
laws against incitement and hatred.
The truth is that Western governments are content to sacrifice liberties and
freedoms when being complicit to torture and rendition — or when restricting
the freedom of movement of Muslims, under the guise of protecting national
security.
So why in this case did the French government allow the magazine Charlie Hebdo
to continue to provoke Muslims, thereby placing the sanctity of its citizens at
risk?
It is time that the sanctity of a Prophet revered by up to one-quarter of the
world's population was protected.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme
Nope, no Onion deal - its USA Today all the way. That very first sentence
caught my eye. Says a lot on a few words - dunno how widespread that belief is,
but it does not bode well for harmony in the world, unless of course the TMO is
willing to send a bunch of purusha governors into all the Muslim states where
sharia law reigns supreme. I await their humanitarian relief effort.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/01/07/islam-allah-muslims-shariah-anjem-choudary-editorials-debates/21417461/
Help me out here, Michael. I haven't looked at an issue of USA Today in years.
I remember from my time in America that it used to be illegal to buy the
newspaper unless you could prove that your IQ was less than 90, but I was
unaware that it had turned into a satire magazine. So WTF, dude? Did USA Today
just give a complete madman a platform on which to write 284 words that PROVE
he's insane, and representing an insane religion, or is this really an article
from The Onion?
Contrary to popular misconception, Islam does not mean peace but rather means
submission to the commands of Allah alone. Therefore, Muslims do not believe in
the concept of freedom of expression, as their speech and actions are
determined by divine revelation and not based on people's desires.
Although Muslims may not agree about the idea of freedom of expression, even
non-Muslims who espouse it say it comes with responsibilities. In an
increasingly unstable and insecure world, the potential consequences of
insulting the Messenger Muhammad are known to Muslims and non-Muslims alike.
Muslims consider the honor of the Prophet Muhammad to be dearer to them than
that of their parents or even themselves. To defend it is considered to be an
obligation upon them. The strict punishment if found guilty of this crime under
sharia (Islamic law) is capital punishment implementable by an Islamic State.
This is because the Messenger Muhammad said, Whoever insults a Prophet kill
him.
However, because the honor of the Prophet is something which all Muslims want
to defend, many will take the law into their own hands, as we often see.
Within liberal democracies, freedom of expression has curtailments, such as
laws against incitement and hatred.
The truth is that Western governments are content to sacrifice liberties and
freedoms when being complicit to torture and rendition — or when restricting
the freedom of movement of Muslims, under the guise of protecting national
security.
So why in this case did the French government allow the magazine Charlie Hebdo
to continue to provoke Muslims, thereby placing the sanctity of its citizens at
risk?
It is time that the sanctity of a Prophet revered by up to one-quarter of the
world's population was protected.
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