Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?

2015-06-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
And they liked the winters? I spent two there and it was not pleasant, tho not 
as bad as the winter I spent in North Dakota.

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

That seems shocking! Wouldn't you be ditching the good folk at Rendlesham or 
whatevetr the heck its called, that there vastu village?
The bigger the group the bigger the influence on world peace, you know the 
score. I always wanted to try the domes in FF but I left the org before I could 
get over there. Shame, I might have liked it, loads of my friends have lived 
over there. 
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:51 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Who was it that used to post the idea that the world is getting better?
A lot of people have made a statistical case for the world being more peaceful 
because we don't have the same type of wars as we used to. The stand up and run 
at each other type of Napoleonic warfare was superceded by the supreme insanity 
of the 2 world wars. Since then we've had nuclear weapons that have prevented 
direct superpower confrontation, so it all got pushed into proxy wars like Nam 
and Indonesia and Afghanistan.
Nowadays things seem to be getting worse to me. The Islamic State are some of 
the worst humans ever, and the disease of righteous religious crusading has 
taken root wherever there are Muslims who fought in the Afghan war against 
Russia in the 80's. That's where the seeds of today's conflicts were born.
What the solution is I have no idea, you can't reason people out of something 
they weren't reasoned into and the contagion is spreading. How many UK Muslims 
have sympathy for IS? Enough to seriously worry absolutely everybody who has 
bothered to ask the question.
When I was younger I was naive enough to think that human governmental systems 
would be improved by people as they worked out the best ways of doing things, 
but that signally hasn't happened. It all seems to be getting worse as far as I 
can see, inequality, environmental destruction, over-population, laissez faire 
capitalism etc And the winners are taking all and not sharing it out. I'd like 
to be optimistic but it seems like a crisis point is coming. 

What happened to the Towers of Invincibility and all the yogi flying and yagya 
groups?
Ah, the seductively simple solution, wouldn't that be great if that worked? 
Close your eyes and when you wake up the world is a better place. Magical.
If I had even the remotest belief in it I'd be living in Fairfield right now.

60 Million People Fleeing Chaotic Lands, U.N. Says
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How Did You Find FFL? (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?)

2015-06-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

From: salyavin808 



What happened to the Towers of Invincibility and all the yogi flying and yagya 
groups?
Ah, the seductively simple solution, wouldn't that be great if that worked? 
Close your eyes and when you wake up the world is a better place. Magical.
If I had even the remotest belief in it I'd be living in Fairfield right now.
This is an interesting point. How many people who actually read or post to 
Fairfield Life actually DO live in Fairfield? By my count, it's only 6 people. 
Out of 1570 registered users. 

So why does this tiny, tiny, tiny segment of the FFL population require 
"special protection" so that their "finest feeling level" sensibilities aren't 
disturbed by the other 1564 people talking about the real world?
Let's not look a gift horse in the mouth and be thankful we don't have to live 
there to post here. Not that that would be intrinsically a bad thing... oh you 
know what I mean.
But it makes me wonder how we all found this place?

I was looking for the Kaplan letter that I'd heard rumours of and a Google 
search led me to the files section, I had to join to have a look. I wasn't ever 
going to post anything, honest, but I got sucked into a conversation about God. 
And now 10 years later

Great thread topic. 

I had been amicably divorced from the TMO for many years when I stumbled upon 
alt.meditation.transcendental on the Usenet. That was a real wake-up call for 
me because I had last even *thought about* the TM movement back in 1979. 
Participating on that forum I discovered that not only were there still people 
who believed in the stuff TM sold, they believed in it with such an intense, 
aberrant fervor that they were willing to stalk you into the next incarnation 
to "protect" their beliefs.  :-)
At some point during my a.m.t. experience, someone mentioned FFL. I knew 
nothing about it, and *assumed* that it was a TM TB forum, and that it wouldn't 
be of any interest to me. For a lark, I applied to FFL with that assumption 
firmly in mind, and thus was pleasingly surprised when Rick not only accepted 
me, but asked in his first post whether I was Uncle Tantra, the author of a 
book I had previously considered beyond the reach of TM practitioners. I 
admitted it, and he accepted me anyway. 

Kismet. I realized my folly immediately, and began to participate on this forum 
as the free speech forum it was intended to be. I enjoyed that until a small 
number of people realized that they couldn't actually make any rational 
arguments to dispute the "heretics" who posted on FFL, so they decided to drive 
them away instead. 

Consider me extremely pleased to see recent events, and "the shoe on the other 
foot." 

  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?

2015-06-18 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 That seems shocking! Wouldn't you be ditching the good folk at Rendlesham or 
whatevetr the heck its called, that there vastu village?
 

 The bigger the group the bigger the influence on world peace, you know the 
score. I always wanted to try the domes in FF but I left the org before I could 
get over there. Shame, I might have liked it, loads of my friends have lived 
over there. 
 
 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:51 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Who was it that used to post the idea that the world is getting better?
 

 A lot of people have made a statistical case for the world being more peaceful 
because we don't have the same type of wars as we used to. The stand up and run 
at each other type of Napoleonic warfare was superceded by the supreme insanity 
of the 2 world wars. Since then we've had nuclear weapons that have prevented 
direct superpower confrontation, so it all got pushed into proxy wars like Nam 
and Indonesia and Afghanistan.
 

 Nowadays things seem to be getting worse to me. The Islamic State are some of 
the worst humans ever, and the disease of righteous religious crusading has 
taken root wherever there are Muslims who fought in the Afghan war against 
Russia in the 80's. That's where the seeds of today's conflicts were born.
 

 What the solution is I have no idea, you can't reason people out of something 
they weren't reasoned into and the contagion is spreading. How many UK Muslims 
have sympathy for IS? Enough to seriously worry absolutely everybody who has 
bothered to ask the question.
 

 When I was younger I was naive enough to think that human governmental systems 
would be improved by people as they worked out the best ways of doing things, 
but that signally hasn't happened. It all seems to be getting worse as far as I 
can see, inequality, environmental destruction, over-population, laissez faire 
capitalism etc And the winners are taking all and not sharing it out. I'd like 
to be optimistic but it seems like a crisis point is coming. 
 

 

 What happened to the Towers of Invincibility and all the yogi flying and yagya 
groups?
 

 Ah, the seductively simple solution, wouldn't that be great if that worked? 
Close your eyes and when you wake up the world is a better place. Magical.
 

 If I had even the remotest belief in it I'd be living in Fairfield right now.
 

 

60 Million People Fleeing Chaotic Lands, U.N. Says 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/18/world/60-million-people-fleeing-chaotic-lands-un-says.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
  
  
 
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 The United Nations refugee agency finds that war and persecution have 
displaced a record number of people.


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?

2015-06-18 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From: salyavin808 
 

 

 

 What happened to the Towers of Invincibility and all the yogi flying and yagya 
groups? 

 Ah, the seductively simple solution, wouldn't that be great if that worked? 
Close your eyes and when you wake up the world is a better place. Magical.
 

 If I had even the remotest belief in it I'd be living in Fairfield right now.
 

 This is an interesting point. How many people who actually read or post to 
Fairfield Life actually DO live in Fairfield? By my count, it's only 6 people. 
Out of 1570 registered users. 

 

 So why does this tiny, tiny, tiny segment of the FFL population require 
"special protection" so that their "finest feeling level" sensibilities aren't 
disturbed by the other 1564 people talking about the real world?
 










Let's not look a gift horse in the mouth and be thankful we don't have to live 
there to post here. Not that that would be intrinsically a bad thing... oh you 
know what I mean.
 

 But it makes me wonder how we all found this place?

I was looking for the Kaplan letter that I'd heard rumours of and a Google 
search led me to the files section, I had to join to have a look. I wasn't ever 
going to post anything, honest, but I got sucked into a conversation about God. 
And now 10 years later
 

 








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?

2015-06-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 



What happened to the Towers of Invincibility and all the yogi flying and yagya 
groups?
Ah, the seductively simple solution, wouldn't that be great if that worked? 
Close your eyes and when you wake up the world is a better place. Magical.
If I had even the remotest belief in it I'd be living in Fairfield right now.
This is an interesting point. How many people who actually read or post to 
Fairfield Life actually DO live in Fairfield? By my count, it's only 6 people. 
Out of 1570 registered users. 

So why does this tiny, tiny, tiny segment of the FFL population require 
"special protection" so that their "finest feeling level" sensibilities aren't 
disturbed by the other 1564 people talking about the real world?

   

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?

2015-06-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That seems shocking! Wouldn't you be ditching the good folk at Rendlesham or 
whatevetr the heck its called, that there vastu village?

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:51 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Who was it that used to post the idea that the world is getting better?
A lot of people have made a statistical case for the world being more peaceful 
because we don't have the same type of wars as we used to. The stand up and run 
at each other type of Napoleonic warfare was superceded by the supreme insanity 
of the 2 world wars. Since then we've had nuclear weapons that have prevented 
direct superpower confrontation, so it all got pushed into proxy wars like Nam 
and Indonesia and Afghanistan.
Nowadays things seem to be getting worse to me. The Islamic State are some of 
the worst humans ever, and the disease of righteous religious crusading has 
taken root wherever there are Muslims who fought in the Afghan war against 
Russia in the 80's. That's where the seeds of today's conflicts were born.
What the solution is I have no idea, you can't reason people out of something 
they weren't reasoned into and the contagion is spreading. How many UK Muslims 
have sympathy for IS? Enough to seriously worry absolutely everybody who has 
bothered to ask the question.
When I was younger I was naive enough to think that human governmental systems 
would be improved by people as they worked out the best ways of doing things, 
but that signally hasn't happened. It all seems to be getting worse as far as I 
can see, inequality, environmental destruction, over-population, laissez faire 
capitalism etc And the winners are taking all and not sharing it out. I'd like 
to be optimistic but it seems like a crisis point is coming. 

What happened to the Towers of Invincibility and all the yogi flying and yagya 
groups?
Ah, the seductively simple solution, wouldn't that be great if that worked? 
Close your eyes and when you wake up the world is a better place. Magical.
If I had even the remotest belief in it I'd be living in Fairfield right now.

60 Million People Fleeing Chaotic Lands, U.N. Says
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|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| 60 Million People Fleeing Chaotic Lands, U.N. SaysThe United Nations refugee 
agency finds that war and persecution have displaced a record number of people. 
|
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?

2015-06-18 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Who was it that used to post the idea that the world is getting better?
 

 A lot of people have made a statistical case for the world being more peaceful 
because we don't have the same type of wars as we used to. The stand up and run 
at each other type of Napoleonic warfare was superceded by the supreme insanity 
of the 2 world wars. Since then we've had nuclear weapons that have prevented 
direct superpower confrontation, so it all got pushed into proxy wars like Nam 
and Indonesia and Afghanistan.
 

 Nowadays things seem to be getting worse to me. The Islamic State are some of 
the worst humans ever, and the disease of righteous religious crusading has 
taken root wherever there are Muslims who fought in the Afghan war against 
Russia in the 80's. That's where the seeds of today's conflicts were born.
 

 What the solution is I have no idea, you can't reason people out of something 
they weren't reasoned into and the contagion is spreading. How many UK Muslims 
have sympathy for IS? Enough to seriously worry absolutely everybody who has 
bothered to ask the question.
 

 When I was younger I was naive enough to think that human governmental systems 
would be improved by people as they worked out the best ways of doing things, 
but that signally hasn't happened. It all seems to be getting worse as far as I 
can see, inequality, environmental destruction, over-population, laissez faire 
capitalism etc And the winners are taking all and not sharing it out. I'd like 
to be optimistic but it seems like a crisis point is coming. 
 

 

 What happened to the Towers of Invincibility and all the yogi flying and yagya 
groups?
 

 Ah, the seductively simple solution, wouldn't that be great if that worked? 
Close your eyes and when you wake up the world is a better place. Magical.
 

 If I had even the remotest belief in it I'd be living in Fairfield right now.
 

 

60 Million People Fleeing Chaotic Lands, U.N. Says 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/18/world/60-million-people-fleeing-chaotic-lands-un-says.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
  
  
 
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 The United Nations refugee agency finds that war and persecution have 
displaced a record number of people.


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?

2015-06-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This is even better, tho it is a year old, almost.
World peace? These are the only 11 countries in the world that are actually 
free from conflict
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  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:47 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?
   
    Yea that is a jaw-dropping number to contemplate.  Well, at least the 
super-powers are not actively shooting at each other as war. Did you see that 
presentation about how by scale we have been in a relative period of peace, 50 
years now ?   
Sit through this to the part where it discovers "The Long Peace" that we are 
in.  That part starts about 14 and a half minutes.  
Makes one hope to do what can be done to prolong this relative period, in 
process as like the science now seems to indicate having more people meditate 
in effective quiet time.  -JaiGuruYou! 
 
Jaw-Dropping Visualization Shows The Sheer Number Who Died In WWII 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?

2015-06-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well maybe if you live in Canada or Iceland - take a look at this and its easy 
to see that the idea of the world being in a 50 year peace is nonsense.
http://www.cfr.org/global/global-conflict-tracker/p32137#!/
  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:47 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?
   
    Yea that is a jaw-dropping number to contemplate.  Well, at least the 
super-powers are not actively shooting at each other as war. Did you see that 
presentation about how by scale we have been in a relative period of peace, 50 
years now ?   
Sit through this to the part where it discovers "The Long Peace" that we are 
in.  That part starts about 14 and a half minutes.  
Makes one hope to do what can be done to prolong this relative period, in 
process as like the science now seems to indicate having more people meditate 
in effective quiet time.  -JaiGuruYou! 
 
Jaw-Dropping Visualization Shows The Sheer Number Who Died In WWII 
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 It's all too easy to think of anything counted in the millions as an 
abstraction -- even if it's World War II, and the topic at hand is the millions 
of live...||
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?

2015-06-18 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yea that is a jaw-dropping number to contemplate.  Well, at least the 
super-powers are not actively shooting at each other as war. Did you see that 
presentation about how by scale we have been in a relative period of peace, 50 
years now ?

 Sit through this to the part where it discovers "The Long Peace" that we are 
in.  That part starts about 14 and a half minutes.   

 Makes one hope to do what can be done to prolong this relative period, in 
process as like the science now seems to indicate having more people meditate 
in effective quiet time.  -JaiGuruYou! 
 

   

 Jaw-Dropping Visualization Shows The Sheer Number Who Died In WWII 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/06/world-war-two-fatalities-visualized_n_7526390.html
 
 
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/06/world-war-two-fatalities-visualized_n_7526390.html
 
 
 Jaw-Dropping Visualization Shows The Sheer Number... 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/06/world-war-two-fatalities-visualized_n_7526390.html
 It's all too easy to think of anything counted in the millions as an 
abstraction -- even if it's World War II, and the topic at hand is the millions 
of live...
 
 
 
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/06/world-war-two-fatalities-visualized_n_7526390.html
 
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