[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-04 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Of course there is monitoring to do in TM as a mental technique unless you are one of those who simply lays down or lounge back and go to sleep as your meditation. I got these old tapes from India TTC where Maharishi very specifically goes through that TM does involve some [small] effort to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
actually, Maharishi enver said there was effot involved. Someone else kept insisting that there HAD to be effot involved, and the topic was thinking the mantra, not monitoring whether or not you WERE thinking the mantra. Sheesh. How many ways can people misunderstand simple instructions?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-04 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/4/2014 10:51 AM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: actually, Maharishi enver said there was effot involved. Someone else kept insisting that there HAD to be effot involved, and the topic was thinking the mantra, not monitoring whether or not you WERE thinking the mantra.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-04 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re There's no monitoring required to do TM. In fact, you can get lost for hours in thought if you have mental health problems as I do, and still be doing TM correctly.: I have wondered if people with OCD or similar obsessive habits can think a mantra effortlessly !

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
As far as I can tell, I think a mantra without effort with the best of 'em and I'm currently being evaluated for disability due to OCD/ADHD. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re There's no monitoring required to do TM. In fact, you can get lost for hours in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-04 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
? From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 8:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana   As far as I can tell, I think a mantra without effort with the best of 'em and I'm

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 8:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana As far as I can tell, I think a mantra without effort with the best of 'em and I'm currently being evaluated for disability due to OCD/ADHD. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-04 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
in the morning. Maybe if Sparaig didn't do TM he would be dead for all you know. From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 8:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana As far as I can tell

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-04 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 8:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana As far as I can tell, I think a mantra without effort with the best of 'em and I'm currently being evaluated for disability due to OCD/ADHD. L

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-03 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Vipassana and TM interwoven, Mindful Notes of a Fairfield meditating satsang: Vipassanaic TM: [Once upon a time at a meeting a few years ago in Fairfield, Iowa ] .. We’re going to talk about transcendence in relation to vaipassana. These two practices are interwoven for me. What has meshed?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
There's no monitoring required to do TM. In fact, you can get lost for hours in thought if you have mental health problems as I do, and still be doing TM correctly. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Vipassana and TM interwoven, Mindful Notes of a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-01 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/31/2014 7:13 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sorry Lawson, but I put in years of study about this with very real teachers plus I also learned to teach TM. You did not and are just making shit up. I understand you want the home team to win but this ain't a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-06-01 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Of course I am familiar with the EEG of TM. In fact I was a subject for a study and the University of Washington. I didn't produce alpha waves but theta. Alpha can be induced by just simple breathing techniques. Theta and delta are more indicative of advanced meditation states. Have you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-05-31 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
The thing is, Vipassana and virtually other practice besides TM, affects the brain in a different way than TM. ALL forms of meditation that have been studied thus far, whether they are from a Vedic tradition or otherwise, reduce the connectivity of the self-centers of the brain from teh rest

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-05-31 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 05/31/2014 10:48 AM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: The thing is, Vipassana and virtually other practice besides TM, affects the brain in a different way than TM. No true at all. There are lots of other meditation programs that use beej mantras (at teach at a fraction of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-05-31 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
You are assuming that it is only the mantra that is different about TM. You are also assuming that, without looking at the EEG, that all practices that use the proper mantra work the same. Neither assumption may be correct. The research I am referring to was done on: 13 Tibetan

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-05-31 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Sorry Lawson, but I put in years of study about this with very real teachers plus I also learned to teach TM. You did not and are just making shit up. I understand you want the home team to win but this ain't a ballgame. On 05/31/2014 02:18 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: You

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-05-31 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Replying again: You're implying that you are more familiar witht he EEG research than I am, but you don't provide any links to research that shows that some specific meditation practice has the same EEG effects as TM, letalone show that it is the mantra that is important, rather than the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana

2014-05-31 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
You're familiar with the EEG of TM and other practices? And I'm not making stuff up, though I understand why you might want to believe so. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Sorry Lawson, but I put in years of study about this with very real teachers plus