Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati? to ObbajeeBA

2013-02-06 Thread Share Long
Isn't it funny how loneliness has almost nothing to do with other people? smiley face From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 10:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-06 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu: There are some books by real tantrics... The 'Tantras' ARE books - 'Tantrism' originated in the early centuries CE and developed into a fully articulated tradition by the end of the Gupta period. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantra ...vibration/movement of consciousness.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-06 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/06/2013 06:48 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Bhairitu: There are some books by real tantrics... The 'Tantras' ARE books - 'Tantrism' originated in the early centuries CE and developed into a fully articulated tradition by the end of the Gupta period.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
Michael Jackson: I have heard Apparently Tantric teachings were altered a lot after the British invasion! Go figure. You will never know the secrets of tantra until you meet Shakti. LoL! that the sexual aspects of tantra were for those who were not ready for or too impatient to go to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
obbajeeba: As if I am going to pretend talking about tantic activity is not arousing In fact you're already a Sky Dancer from birth. But, until realization we think we are on a path to the other side, and we must pass through a gate. If you do cross over to the other side, you will

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-05 Thread obbajeeba
Been there, done that. Actually, I was pulling yer strings, anyone's. I am not so attached to what is not present, except my imagination, from the Moon's perspective. All talk, no play. A virgin at heart. A single goldfish in a fish bowl. A single caged Chimpanzee, throwing excrement at the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-05 Thread Share Long
Richard, very wonderful info, thanks for posting.  I googled topics and got wandering in a fascinating world.  I love that idea of a gateless gate. Here's a website with some of Lady Yeshe's writings. http://home.infionline.net/~ddisse/tsogyal.html From:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-05 Thread Bhairitu
Yup, there are lots of books out there about tantra. Mostly by spectators and full of bullshit. There are some books by real tantrics available but you really won't understand them unless you've learned tantra yourself. On 02/05/2013 10:31 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, very wonderful info,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
Michael Jackson: Guru Dev was a tantric?? Not just another Tantric! All the Shankaracharyas agree that the Saraswati Dasanamis worship the Sri Vidya, a tantric sect. It is a fact that the Sri Yantra is ensconced on the mandir at Dwarka, Kanchi, and the Sringeri Mathas. It is also a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-04 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I'm quite amused at the post Stupor Bowl news stories this morning including the one that Beyonce flashing the Illuminati sign. Well in the picture of Brahmananda Saraswati used for puja he's flashing the Illuminati sign. Of course

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-04 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: Tantra is about empowering mantras, yantras and rituals called tantras. We're you thinking it was about sex or black magic? Tantra is also about a great deal *more* than the things you mentioned. Were you thinking that was all there was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-04 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/04/2013 11:29 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: Tantra is about empowering mantras, yantras and rituals called tantras. We're you thinking it was about sex or black magic? Tantra is also about a great deal *more* than the things you mentioned.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-04 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: On 02/04/2013 11:29 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: Tantra is about empowering mantras, yantras and rituals called tantras. We're you thinking it was about sex or black magic?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-04 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I'm quite amused at the post Stupor Bowl news stories this morning including the one that Beyonce flashing the Illuminati sign. Well in the picture of Brahmananda Saraswati used for puja he's flashing the Illuminati sign. Of course

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-04 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/04/2013 11:57 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: On 02/04/2013 11:29 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: Tantra is about empowering mantras, yantras and rituals called tantras. We're you thinking it was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-04 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/04/2013 12:15 PM, John wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I'm quite amused at the post Stupor Bowl news stories this morning including the one that Beyonce flashing the Illuminati sign. Well in the picture of Brahmananda Saraswati used for puja he's flashing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-04 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: On 02/04/2013 12:15 PM, John wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I'm quite amused at the post Stupor Bowl news stories this morning including the one that Beyonce flashing the Illuminati sign. Well in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu: ...in the picture of Brahmananda Saraswati used for puja he's flashing the Illuminati sign. Of course it's just the yoni mudra There are several photos of Swami Brahmanand Saraswati posing with Gyan Mudra, a mudra that is common to many yogis in the line of the South Indian

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
I'm just saying that just as they shouldn't necessarily limit tantra to what they know about it, neither should you Bharitu: I have to respectfully disagree because there are classic definitions of tantra... Something tells me you two are not practicing tantrics. A sure

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-04 Thread obbajeeba
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote: I'm just saying that just as they shouldn't necessarily limit tantra to what they know about it, neither should you Bharitu: I have to respectfully disagree because there are classic definitions of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-04 Thread Michael Jackson
I have heard that the sexual aspects of tantra were for those who were not ready for or too impatient to go to the heart of the tantra practices, so the tantra masters would give them the sex stuff to do till the students got serious about their practice and give up the sex and go into the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-04 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.comwrote: ** I have heard that the sexual aspects of tantra were for those who were not ready for or too impatient to go to the heart of the tantra practices, so the tantra masters would give them the sex stuff to do till the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-04 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.comwrote: ** I have heard that the sexual aspects of tantra were for those who were not ready for or too impatient to go to the heart of the tantra practices, so the tantra masters would give them the sex stuff to do till the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Guru Dev a part of the Illuminati?

2013-02-04 Thread Michael Jackson
Well I didn't know so I was asking - I can't remember where I read that - it was years ago and until I started posting on FFL I didn't know anyone in these parts who had ever done any serious tantra work or study so I wanted to ask since there was some chat about tantra.