[FairfieldLife] Re: What kind of meditation did the Buddha teach?

2011-07-05 Thread emptybill
You seem to be conflating the oral recitation tradition of Vedic, which was extremely early in time, with the appearance of traditional Sanskrit, particularly of Panini. You should know enough to recall that Rig Veda recitation goes back a very long time and that the phonemes of Vedic go back eve

[FairfieldLife] Re: What kind of meditation did the Buddha teach?

2011-07-05 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
emptybill: > Bija mantra-s are the phonemes of oral, > chanted Sanskrit. > So, we are agreed. > Each of these phonemes has the appropriate > anusvara added to it (which if chanted like > Brahmana-s do in the appropriate manner) > turns it into a bija-mantra. If you had the > time/place in

[FairfieldLife] Re: What kind of meditation did the Buddha teach?

2011-07-05 Thread emptybill
Bija mantra-s are the phonemes of oral, chanted Sanskrit. Each of these phonemes has the appropriate anusvara added to it (which if chanted like Brahmana-s do in the appropriate manner) turns it into a bija-mantra. If you had the time/place in the past to learn and chant the bija akshara-s of Sans

[FairfieldLife] Re: What kind of meditation did the Buddha teach?

2011-07-05 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
emptybill: > It's a mental midget's attempt to define > the "real" nature of mantra, Mahayana, > meditation, transcending, and "reality > itself"... > So, where does the tradition of meditation on 'bija' mantras come from? We know that 'mantras' are used in the Vedas, but there are no bija man

[FairfieldLife] Re: What kind of meditation did the Buddha teach?

2011-07-04 Thread emptybill
These posts are a hoot. It's a mental midget's attempt to define the "real" nature of mantra, Mahayana, meditation, transcending, and "reality itself". Gotta laugh at the hubris. Keep 'em going, Willy. We gotta be entertained by somepin'. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardjwilliams

[FairfieldLife] Re: What kind of meditation did the Buddha teach?

2011-07-04 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
> > Scholarly article on Buddhist meditation, contemporary > > mindfulness practices, and the Transcendental Meditation > > technique by Dr. Evan Finkelstein. > > turquoiseb: > Just another attempt to impose TM ideas on a system > he neither understands nor respects, and clearly has > never tri

[FairfieldLife] Re: What kind of meditation did the Buddha teach?

2011-07-03 Thread emptybill
"While they may in fact require no more strenuous practice than TM'ers re-introducing their mantra to their mind." Yep, we're getting so old that it's no longer good enough that we were "introduced" to our meditation mantra way back when. Yep, we can't be practicing correctly if we simply remem

[FairfieldLife] Re: What kind of meditation did the Buddha teach?

2011-07-03 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > Scholarly article on Buddhist meditation, contemporary mindfulness > > practices, and the Transcendental Meditation technique by Dr. Evan > > Finkelstein. > > > > http

[FairfieldLife] Re: What kind of meditation did the Buddha teach?

2011-07-03 Thread Buck
Here is the large TM assertion recycled, that buddhistic practices necesarily require 'strenuous practice' and therefore are no good. While they may in fact require no more strenuous practice than TM'ers re-introducing their mantra to their mind. This TM paper has a large assumption that is qu

[FairfieldLife] Re: What kind of meditation did the Buddha teach?

2011-07-03 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > Scholarly article on Buddhist meditation, contemporary mindfulness > practices, and the Transcendental Meditation technique by Dr. Evan > Finkelstein. > > http://www.elephantjournal.com/2011/07/the-buddhas-meditation--dr-evan-finkelst

[FairfieldLife] Re: What kind of meditation did the Buddha teach?

2011-07-03 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > Scholarly article on Buddhist meditation, contemporary mindfulness > practices, and the Transcendental Meditation technique by Dr. Evan > Finkelstein. > > http://www.elephantjournal.com/2011/07/the-buddhas-meditation--dr-evan-fin

[FairfieldLife] Re: What kind of meditation did the Buddha teach?

2011-07-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > Scholarly article on Buddhist meditation, contemporary mindfulness > practices, and the Transcendental Meditation technique by Dr. Evan > Finkelstein. > > http://www.elephantjournal.com/2011/07/the-buddhas-meditation--dr-evan-finke