Re: [FairfieldLife] Robin your last post has a double message ((shades of yesteryear)

2012-08-07 Thread Vaj

On Aug 7, 2012, at 4:35 PM, "lordknows888"  wrote:

> Dear Robin,
> 
> 
> 1) I am a single author and not a composite of authors
> 2)I did not state that you were psychotic and that you were going to hell, I 
> stated I thought you were mentally unbalanced.
> 3)I live my life holding myself to a standard of honesty (thanks for the pep 
> talk on the need for honesty anyway)
> 4)I found your post quite different in it's seeming intent which could be 
> summarized as a exhortation  to honesty,  and to state that honesty  is your 
> creed. I detected an unstated subtext. It was a kind of an almost bullying 
> posturing which you was  communicating in effect " you better bring your A 
> game buddy boy because I'm going to hit that frigging honesty ball out of the 
> park".Where do I read this subtext you ask? At least in part right here  "You 
> have staked out a very strong position; should you have any doubts about 
> standing behind that position, then it might be more problematic in "entering 
> into disputations with you". After all, you know all my tricks and ruses and 
> feints that enable me to cover up the fact that I don't have any faith that 
> the truth will get me through my argument."and right here,   " No, I 
> think innocence and sincerity are the way to pursue this matter, LordKnows. 
> And I am hoping you are ready to give it your all". This is like high class 
> trash talking before playing a game. This has me feeling shades of 
> yesteryear, I've seen this move before.
> 5) I have also seen you seem reasonable and temperate initially as you 
> skillfully absorb an initial hit before marshalling your forces for the 
> counter offensive . I'm a little rusty Robin it has been over 25 years since 
> I've seen your moves on the court, but it comes back as things play out here. 
> What am I referencing when I state this you ask,  this  " "Reasonable and 
> temperate"? I would have thought those two qualities somewhat incompatible 
> with your description of my character and my motives and my mental health." 
> Not that you are not allowed to defend yourself,  but do it out front and 
> don't package it inside a message which is supposed to be about honesty. 
> Honesty is transparency not hidden double messages. So you see Robin in your 
> exhortation to honesty you are showing the opposite,subtle manipulation. 
> 5)I have to tell you Robin that this kind of bully boy posturing in the guise 
> of an exhortation to honesty is not an encouraging sign for real honesty, 
> which is at least your stated intention.
> 6)Robin in my last post I stated that I was still weighing the pros and cons 
> of entering into a dialogue with you, this last post has convinced me it is 
> not worth it.What would be the point when right here in the first post about 
> our potential dialogue you are up to your old tricks.

Be careful of the “I’m a wounded animal” type pattern RWC likes to fall back on 
- to suck people in - typically when it’s he who’s on the losing end of a 
particular situation.

I’ve also seen him use if ‘if only you could have felt it as I did' (often 
implying some extraordinary bliss, grace or trophy state) to draw in the 
(largely) TM-related folks here. 



Old tactic, just a “New Fairfield”. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Robin your last post has a double message ((shades of yesteryear)

2012-08-07 Thread lordknows888
Dear Robin,
1) I am a single author and not a composite of authors2)I did not state
that you were psychotic and that you were going to hell, I stated I
thought you were mentally unbalanced.3)I live my life holding myself to
a standard of honesty (thanks for the pep talk on the need for honesty
anyway)4)I found your post quite different in it's seeming intent which
could be summarized as a exhortation  to honesty,  and to state that
honesty  is your creed. I detected an unstated subtext. It was a kind of
an almost bullying posturing which you was  communicating in effect "
you better bring your A game buddy boy because I'm going to hit that
frigging honesty ball out of the park".Where do I read this subtext you
ask? At least in part right here  "You have staked out a very strong
position; should you have any doubts about standing behind that
position, then it might be more problematic in "entering into
disputations with you". After all, you know all my tricks and ruses and
feints that enable me to cover up the fact that I don't have any faith
that the truth will get me through my argument."and right here,   "
No, I think innocence and sincerity are the way to pursue this matter,
LordKnows. And I am hoping you are ready to give it your all". This is
like high class trash talking before playing a game. This has me feeling
shades of yesteryear, I've seen this move before.5) I have also seen you
seem reasonable and temperate initially as you skillfully absorb an
initial hit before marshalling your forces for the counter offensive .
I'm a little rusty Robin it has been over 25 years since I've seen your
moves on the court, but it comes back as things play out here. What am I
referencing when I state this you ask,  this  " "Reasonable and
temperate"? I would have thought those two qualities somewhat
incompatible with your description of my character and my motives and my
mental health." Not that you are not allowed to defend yourself,  but do
it out front and don't package it inside a message which is supposed to
be about honesty. Honesty is transparency not hidden double messages. So
you see Robin in your exhortation to honesty you are showing the
opposite,subtle manipulation. 5)I have to tell you Robin that this kind
of bully boy posturing in the guise of an exhortation to honesty is not
an encouraging sign for real honesty, which is at least your stated
intention.6)Robin in my last post I stated that I was still weighing the
pros and cons of entering into a dialogue with you, this last post has
convinced me it is not worth it.What would be the point when right here
in the first post about our potential dialogue you are up to your old
tricks.