Re: [FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-24 Thread Peter
My rant towards Edg was based on his extreme victim mentality. I'm not denying, minimizing or dismissing the behavior of the TMO. I certainly know exactly what he is talking about. But to present this badge begging scenario as if he was so wronged and humiliated places all power with the TMO

[FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-24 Thread feste37
Hey Lurk, not sure how relevant your response is. Duveyoung claimed that he was forced to beg in public, which is a ridiculous claim. Who forced him? Did some TMO henchmen come to his door and frogmarch him to the capitol and force him to beg in public? I don't think so. His anger at the TMO is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-24 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 24, 2009, at 4:07 AM, Peter wrote: My rant towards Edg was based on his extreme victim mentality. I'm not denying, minimizing or dismissing the behavior of the TMO. I certainly know exactly what he is talking about. But to present this badge begging scenario as if he was so wronged

Re: [FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-24 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 24, 2009, at 9:30 AM, feste37 wrote: Hey Lurk, not sure how relevant your response is. Duveyoung claimed that he was forced to beg in public, which is a ridiculous claim. Who forced him? Did some TMO henchmen come to his door and frogmarch him to the capitol and force him to beg in

[FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-24 Thread enlightened_dawn11
amen to that-- regarding the displaced anger, an all too frequent theme here on FFL from all the TM critics. if anything new was ever said about the TMO and their well known issues, but all of this is just a rehash by those who cannot seem to get past their psychological issues from their

[FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-24 Thread enlightened_dawn11
...cue the violins... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Feb 24, 2009, at 9:30 AM, feste37 wrote: Hey Lurk, not sure how relevant your response is. Duveyoung claimed that he was forced to beg in public, which is a ridiculous claim. Who forced

[FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-24 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: amen to that-- regarding the displaced anger, an all too frequent theme here on FFL from all the TM critics. if anything new was ever said about the TMO and their well known issues, but all of this is just a

[FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-24 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: [snip] You've got Peter, Feste, and Richard coming after you. How many kids do they have between them. Could it be.0. How many kids do WE have between us.

[FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 fest...@... wrote: His anger at the TMO is simply displaced anger at himself for being such a loser that he couldn't afford even the modest amount charged for a dome fee. Oh, that's *way, way* out of line. There are innumerable reasons why

Re: [FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-24 Thread I am the eternal
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:00 AM, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ...cue the violins... Or join the club. I hung out with the well heeled citizens who donated money, facilities and time and we were treated like shit. Flew all the way from Alaska to FF for a Christmas WPA.

[FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-24 Thread enlightened_dawn11
no argument or problem withy what you have written. i am well aware that many in the TMO acted pompous and superior. as you said: OK. done. next. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:00 AM, enlightened_dawn11

[FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-24 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Feste, I'm just visualizing the situation, and the funny way Edg is telling the story. People like Edg and me figure that the goodwill we try to spread is somehow or sometimes going to be reciprocated. And when it's not, sometimes it just gives us a reality check. I mean the guy had four

[FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-23 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: When I was poor and wanting to still be able to do program in the domes, I had to ask them to let me in for free or at least give me a discount on the dome fee. You'd think that the TMO was scoring a point for having a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-23 Thread Peter
Edg...and you still haven't gotten over it. Those terrible people in administration! Hey, I get your point, but they wanted money and why the fuck shouldn't you pay money just like everybody else? Man up and get your shit together and cough-up the bucks. Stop seeing yourself as weak and

[FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-23 Thread Duveyoung
Peter, Hey, where am I on record here thinking I was perfect and the TMO was solely imperfect? I should have never moved to FF -- period, so yeah, it's all my bad that I subjected myself to the whole shebang. I don't think the TMO owes me anything -- I gave all I gave freely as an adult. That

[FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-23 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Peter, Hey, where am I on record here thinking I was perfect and the TMO was solely imperfect? I should have never moved to FF -- period, so yeah, it's all my bad that I subjected myself to the whole shebang. I don't

[FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-23 Thread Duveyoung
When I was poor and wanting to still be able to do program in the domes, I had to ask them to let me in for free or at least give me a discount on the dome fee. You'd think that the TMO was scoring a point for having a process for folks like me that involved getting some personal information and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-23 Thread Peter
--- On Mon, 2/23/09, boo_lives boo_li...@yahoo.com wrote: Right on Edg. Don't let anyone who has had nothing to do with ffld or the tmo in decades or maybe never and who don't see what's still going on with real lives there everyday shut you up. If you don't see what's going on

[FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-23 Thread feste37
Poor little whiner, determined to be a victim. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: When I was poor and wanting to still be able to do program in the domes, I had to ask them to let me in for free or at least give me a discount on the dome fee. You'd think

[FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
All he wanted to do was sit on Daddy's lap and get his hair smoothed. feste37 wrote: Poor little whiner, determined to be a victim. Duveyoung wrote: When I was poor and wanting to still be able to do program in the domes, I had to ask them to let me in for free or at least give me a

[FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-23 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: --- On Mon, 2/23/09, boo_lives boo_li...@... wrote: Right on Edg. Don't let anyone who has had nothing to do with ffld or the tmo in decades or maybe never and who don't see what's still going on with real

Re: [FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-23 Thread Kirk
Yeah, for my whole first year class only me and two others weren't allowed the sidhis course and I knew it was gonna kill my relationship with my girlfriend right then and it did. - Original Message - From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:

[FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-23 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_li...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- On Mon, 2/23/09, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote: Right on Edg. Don't let anyone who has had nothing to do with ffld or the tmo in

[FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-23 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... Hey, I still do my program. I don't live in Ffld anymore, but the point still applies. You're waiting for the slave master to set you free. Guess what, it ain't going to happen. The slave stops being a slave the day he decides

Re: [FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-23 Thread Peter
I agree. Krishna would bitch slap him! --- On Mon, 2/23/09, feste37 fest...@yahoo.com wrote: From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February

[FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-23 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Edg, for the life of me, I can't figure out why everyone is busting your chops on this. I can relate to this story at face value. Makes sense to me. Who wants to be humiliated, or shamed, even in a small way. But no, there's got to be slave issues, or whiner issues. Let me throw this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: Vaj the honest and forthright)

2009-02-23 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 23, 2009, at 10:54 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Edg, for the life of me, I can't figure out why everyone is busting your chops on this. I can relate to this story at face value. Makes sense to me. Who wants to be humiliated, or shamed, even in a small way. But no, there's got